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Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 02 2009 05:58 AM

[quote="Associated Press"]
Book claims Ted Williams’ head mistreated
Cryonics facility employee allegedly abused frozen head of Hall of Famer

NEW YORK - The New York Daily News is reporting that Red Sox Hall of Famer Ted Williams’ severed head was mistreated at an Arizona cryonics facility, according to details from a new book.

In “Frozen,” Larry Johnson, a former executive at the Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Scottsdale, Ariz., writes that Williams’ head, which had been severed and frozen for storage, was abused at the facility. Johnson claims a technician took baseball-like swings at Williams’ frozen head with a monkey wrench.

Williams, the last player to hit over .400 in a season, died in 2002 at age 83 and had his remains sent to Alcor for cryogenic storage in the hope that future generations would develop the technology to revive him.

Nymr83
Oct 02 2009 06:32 AM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Williams, the last player to hit over .400 in a season, died in 2002 at age 83 and had his remains sent to Alcor for cryogenic storage in the hope that future generations would develop the technology to revive him.


wouldn't these future generations presumably need the whole body?

Williams must have watched Futurama a few too many times, all hail Nixon's head!

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 02 2009 06:37 AM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Alcor also does "whole body storage" for a higher fee.

I think the thinking is that the future generations would be able to clone a younger body for Ted, and put his brain into it.

Of course, the clone would have a brain (and a mind) of his own, and perhaps would not be too thrilled about having his brain removed and discarded to make way for the brain of an 83-year-old dead guy.

Fman99
Oct 02 2009 07:01 AM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Worms, monkey wrenches, something's gonna get yer head eventually. Just accept it.

metirish
Oct 02 2009 07:07 AM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...

Ashie62
Oct 02 2009 03:34 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Brings new meaning to the word "Pinata"

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 02 2009 03:43 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Don't tell me they also filled Ted's head with candy!

metirish
Oct 07 2009 12:29 PM
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Ex-Mets catcher Mike Piazza says Alcor mistreatment of Ted Williams is 'crazy'


Five years after Mike Piazza reached out to Ted Williams' oldest daughter, Bobby-Jo Ferrell, offering to help Ferrell and her husband Mark with their legal fight over the remains of the Hall of Fame Red Sox, the former Mets catcher is still stunned by how Williams' remains are being treated.

"It's crazy. Just bizarre," Piazza said Tuesday night, referring to the newly released book, "Frozen," written by former Alcor COO Larry Johnson. The Daily News first reported on the book's revelations, including the decapitation and abuse of Williams' head. "I just cannot believe the greatest hitter of all time, that his head is in a frozen cryogenic state."

Ferrell was in a contentious battle with Arizona-based Alcor Life Extension Foundation in 2004. The Splendid Splinter's remains were sent to Alcor following his death in 2002. Ferrell's half-sister Claudia and now deceased half-brother John Henry Williams claimed that baseball's last .400 hitter wanted his remains suspended in liquid nitrogen for future scientific study. Piazza had to quietly back out of the matter when an attorney for Williams' estate outlined the legal obstacles involved.

Piazza said Tuesday night that he had not been in touch with Ferrell recently, but would be interested in lending his support if she and her husband resurrected their legal fight. Ferrell's attorney John Heer told The News that Ferrell had given up due to a lack of funding.

"Since there was all this legalese involved, I backed out," said Piazza, who was at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel for the annual "Great Sports Legends Dinner" which benefits the Buoniconti Fund to Cure Paralysis. "If she's going to resurrect (the fight), I definitely would like to talk to her about that. I just don't know why this guy hasn't been given a proper burial."

Piazza said he had been following the recent reports about "Frozen." On Monday, a Manhattan State Supreme Court judge rejected a bid by Alcor to halt the release of the book. Piazza was one of many All-Stars who gathered around Williams, then 80, while the Red Sox legend sat in a golf cart at Fenway Park during the 1999 All-Star Game festivities.




there's a great picture of Piazza, Seaver , Staub with Williams on "Ted Willims Night" June 11 1999 in the online edition of the Snooze..that's the All-Star Game I assume?


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... andal.html

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 07 2009 12:33 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

You know what else strikes me as crazy? That somebody wrote a book about the fate of Ted Williams' frozen head.

Yeah, I mean, I understand that it's more than that, it's an expose of the frozen head industry. But it still seems strange. Who's going to read that book?

Edgy DC
Oct 07 2009 12:40 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

Maybe undertakers, who presumably have to talk the occasional widow out of such a process.

Plus there's probably more than a few Red Sox completionists. If that was Tom Seaver's head (God forbid) rolling around the floor of Alcor, I'd probably pull the trigger.

metirish
Oct 07 2009 12:42 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

This thread is turing into gold.....the help Piazza is talking about is him fronting the money for a legal fight , among other things?

Fman99
Oct 07 2009 12:45 PM
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I'd like to do awful things to his frozen head, just to say I did. Is that wrong of me?

"A man has to have goals - for a day, for a lifetime - and that was mine, to have people say, 'There goes Ted Williams' frozen head, the greatest hitter's frozen head who ever lived prior to being frozen and then abused with monkey wrenches and shit.' "

Edgy DC
Oct 07 2009 12:47 PM
Re: Catching up with Ted Williams' head

[quote="metirish"]This thread is turing into gold.....the help Piazza is talking about is him fronting the money for a legal fight , among other things?


Well, he may be proposing underwriting a crack commando squad's mission to rescue the head in a daring midnight raid, but I doubt he'd speak openly about it.

MFS62
Oct 07 2009 12:48 PM
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[quote="Benjamin Grimm":4cgpyahd]You know what else strikes me as crazy? That somebody wrote a book about the fate of Ted Williams' frozen head.

Yeah, I mean, I understand that it's more than that, it's an expose of the frozen head industry. But it still seems strange. Who's going to read that book?[/quote:4cgpyahd]
A cannibal with a microwave?

Later

metsguyinmichigan
Oct 07 2009 01:52 PM
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[quote="Edgy DC"][quote="metirish"]This thread is turing into gold.....the help Piazza is talking about is him fronting the money for a legal fight , among other things?


Well, he may be proposing underwriting a crack commando squad's mission to rescue the head in a daring midnight raid, but I doubt he'd speak openly about it.


Bad ass!

Ashie62
Oct 07 2009 03:12 PM
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[quote="MFS62":pvr4egox][quote="Benjamin Grimm":pvr4egox]You know what else strikes me as crazy? That somebody wrote a book about the fate of Ted Williams' frozen head.

Yeah, I mean, I understand that it's more than that, it's an expose of the frozen head industry. But it still seems strange. Who's going to read that book?[/quote:pvr4egox]
A cannibal with a microwave?

Later[/quote:pvr4egox]

I think I just pissed my pants