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Mets Media Guide assistance

Benjamin Grimm Oct 09 2009 02:30 PM

Hey Mets fans! I can use some help for something I'm doing with the UMDB. I have a bunch of Mets Media Guides from over the years, but there are many that I'm missing. If anyone has any of the following guides, and would be willing to scan and e-mail me 1 to 3 pages from whatever guides they have, I'd appreciate it. I'm slowly building up a list of all disabled list transactions in Mets history. (I wonder what inspired that?) Visit Jose Reyes' page, or Cliff Floyd's, or Craig Swan's, if you want to see some of the data that's already been gathered.) Anyway, here are the Guides that I'm missing: 1963 through 1978. 1980 1982 1984 1985 1986 1988 1989 1990 1991 1997 2001 2002 2006 2007 What I need are the "Chronology" or "Transactions" sections. (I know that they've appeared in the Guides back to as early as 1979; I'm not sure if they were in the earlier Guides, but I imagine they were.) If you have access to a Guide and a scanner, and you're willing to help, I'd appreciate it, and so would legions of Mets fans from around the universe. Just send the scans to the address that's on this page: www.ultimatemets.com/contact.html My mother thanks you. My father thanks you. My sister thanks you. And I thank you.

metirish Oct 09 2009 02:34 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Good luck in this , pretty amazin that you can go to Floyd's page and get this information On disabled list from August 19, 2003 to September 29, 2003 (sore right Achilles tendon); from April 12, 2004 to May 13, 2004 (strained right quadriceps); from June 7, 2006 to June 30, 2006 (spained left ankle); from August 9, 2006 to September 2, 2006 (left Achilles tendinitis).

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 09 2009 02:43 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Will be in touch!

Edgy DC Oct 09 2009 02:55 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I love my media guides. I'll help too.

Kong76 Oct 09 2009 03:10 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I can do a bunch too, can we use the thread to show what's knocked off the list so we don't duplicate efforts? http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans82.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans84.pdf Sorry, the month is cut off on the 84 ... I didn't look at the scan before I sent it to server but you can make out the ept, ov, etc.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 09 2009 03:32 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Cool, thanks! And posting in this thread what's already been shared is a good idea. And if I have any legibility problems with any of the scans, I can post them here as well.

Kong76 Oct 09 2009 03:42 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans70.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans73.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans75.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans76a.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans76b.pdf

A Boy Named Seo Oct 09 2009 03:59 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Why were Ryan, Jorgensen, and Boswell each placed on the miliary list for 2 weeks in '70?

Chad Ochoseis Oct 09 2009 04:09 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Why were Ryan, Jorgensen, and Boswell each placed on the miliary list for 2 weeks in '70? National Guard duty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_unit

Kong76 Oct 09 2009 04:43 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans77.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans78.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans79.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans80.pdf What the hell is that thing on the bottom of the scans. I need to clean the glass but it looks like a crane's head lol.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 09 2009 05:24 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Mendoza Line wrote: Why were Ryan, Jorgensen, and Boswell each placed on the miliary list for 2 weeks in '70? National Guard duty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_unit Thanks. So those guys joined the National Guard (reserves?) to maybe avoid being drafted, and Nolan Ryan (and maybe all 3?) were put in this champagne unit which would all but assure them of not seeing actual combat? Wonder if the Mets had to pull strings, or the fact that they were Mets the year after winning the WS was all the strings they needed? I never knew that stuff. Sorry if it's been covered before.

Kong76 Oct 09 2009 06:14 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

There was all kinds of monkey business going on to keep from going to Vietnam. I know someone who went into the army and played on a traveling baseball team his whole time in. Yes, baseball. Of course, stuff like that wasn't as 'newsworthy' as draft dodging, war protests, etc. The very father of that guy was as much an Archie Bunker love it or leave it gentleman as you'll ever meet ... but his son played baseball because of connections instead of going to the jungle.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 09 2009 06:55 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Looks like Ellis Valentine was traded from the Expos to the Mets in 1981 while he was on the disabled list. I guess the rule that's currently in place wasn't in effect back then. Or there was some kind of a loophole.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2009 07:15 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Baseball teams (and other sports) were long a staple of the armed services before Vietnam. Dimaggio and others did baseball-playing tours during WWII as part of 'morale boosting' efforts. Not everyone got off so easy as you usually had to be pretty darn good to get onto one of those teams (high minors of better) - although I believe 'only' two active MLers were killed in combat during that war. As far as those Met teams, since the draft was in effect during the Vietnam era joining the reserves was a way to get in your service time another way. There were definitely cases of strings pulled now and then - there was a story about how Charlie Finley got one of his stars pulled back state-side after being shipped to SE Asia - but losing guys for a few weeks here and a few there on account of military obligations was somewhat common place at that time. The only Met I remember who actually saw time in Vietnam was Dave Schneck but that was before he was a major leaguer.

Valadius Oct 10 2009 06:23 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I have 2001 at my parents' house. Let me know what you're looking for.

Kong76 Oct 11 2009 08:02 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Here's a few more ... http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans85.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans86.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans88.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans89.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans90.pdf I can't find a 1991, which surprises me because I was pretty compulsive about this stuff when I was in building and buying mode. Anyways, I have several '89s and '93s if someone want to trade.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2009 08:31 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Valadius wrote: I have 2001 at my parents' house. Let me know what you're looking for. I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate the offer of help, but I did say in my opening post exactly what I was looking for.

Nymr83 Oct 11 2009 08:31 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

What I need are the "Chronology" or "Transactions" sections. (I know that they've appeared in the Guides back to as early as 1979; I'm not sure if they were in the earlier Guides, but I imagine they were.) the transactions page on mets.com includes when guys went on and off the DL and goes back to 2001

Kong76 Oct 11 2009 09:27 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Can't put my hands on the '97 either ... http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans01a.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans01b.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans02a.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans02b.pdf http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MetsTrans02c.pdf

Swan Swan H Oct 11 2009 09:41 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I have the '97 guide. It's on the way to the e-mail address in the first post.

Rockin' Doc Oct 11 2009 10:16 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Valadius wrote: I have 2001 at my parents' house. Let me know what you're looking for. I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate the offer of help, but I did say in my opening post exactly what I was looking for. I often get the impression that many posters don't read much more than the last one or two posts in any given thread, no matter how long the thread may be. I may be wrong in my assumption, but I often get that distinct impression from the way posts are often made that seem oblivious to discussions that have already occurred earlier in the same thread.

Valadius Oct 11 2009 11:15 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Valadius wrote: I have 2001 at my parents' house. Let me know what you're looking for. I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate the offer of help, but I did say in my opening post exactly what I was looking for. Didn't see that part at first.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2009 12:55 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Swan Swan H wrote: I have the '97 guide. It's on the way to the e-mail address in the first post. Got it, thanks! And I've entered the 1996 info. (I've also done the 1982 stuff that Kong has posted. And I'll continue to work my way through the rest of it.)

Kong76 Oct 11 2009 01:23 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

It occurred to me before that Lunchgrabber might have all the transaction data in some Excel file or some database. I recall from a couple of years ago that he was working on something (I think).

MFS62 Oct 12 2009 08:33 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Kong76 wrote: There was all kinds of monkey business going on to keep from going to Vietnam. I know someone who went into the army and played on a traveling baseball team his whole time in. Yes, baseball. Of course, stuff like that wasn't as 'newsworthy' as draft dodging, war protests, etc. The very father of that guy was as much an Archie Bunker love it or leave it gentleman as you'll ever meet ... but his son played baseball because of connections instead of going to the jungle. I always wondered, if that if you were going into the Reserves or National Guard to avoid getting drafted and seeing combat, why would someone sign up for the Marine Reserves (IIRC like some of the Mets did)? To prove to everyone that you were a tough wuss? Later

Edgy DC Oct 12 2009 06:58 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Here we go from the 1966 media guide --- seemingly a relatively healthy year once the official Mets shoulder surgeon cut the infield open.

Edgy DC Oct 12 2009 07:20 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

MFS62 wrote: Kong76 wrote: There was all kinds of monkey business going on to keep from going to Vietnam. I know someone who went into the army and played on a traveling baseball team his whole time in. Yes, baseball. Of course, stuff like that wasn't as 'newsworthy' as draft dodging, war protests, etc. The very father of that guy was as much an Archie Bunker love it or leave it gentleman as you'll ever meet ... but his son played baseball because of connections instead of going to the jungle. I always wondered, if that if you were going into the Reserves or National Guard to avoid getting drafted and seeing combat, why would someone sign up for the Marine Reserves (IIRC like some of the Mets did)? To prove to everyone that you were a tough wuss? Later That's a good question. It may have something to do with which reserve units you sensed were most likely to get called up and shipped out. I'm sure a lot of that was based on rumors and other misinformation. ="Tug McGraw in Ya Gotta Believe"]As that sumer was coming to a close, I would finish out the season with another first for my career in the bigs---the first time I was thrown out of a game. It was September, and the last game before I was leaving for boot camp with the marines. I had received my notice for selective service in my fan mail---go figure---and decided that I would get into the reserves before they had a chance to draft me. I first looked into the navy reserves, but they didn't have the program I wanted, so I narrowed my choices down to the army, the National Guard, and the Marines. I'd love to claim I put a great deal of thought into picking a branch of the service, but the truth is that the marines had the shortest line at the recruiting center, so I picked them. Most of the young guys didn't want to go into the marines because of horror stories that were circulating, like the one about he drill instructor leading a group of guys into a swamp at low tide and then getting them stuck and drowned when the tide came in. But that didn't faze me---I just didn't want to stand in line and figured this baseball thing would end sooner rather than later, so I'd better be prepared for what was next.

So there you have it. Short line.

Kong76 Oct 12 2009 07:39 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I've never seen inside any of the 60's, that's cool. How 'bout that Yogi?

Edgy DC Oct 12 2009 07:54 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Yeah, my sweet little '66 is as old as I've got. My next best one is the 1970, I think. I'll post that tomorry, along with a purple essay about Johnny Murphy.

Edgy DC Oct 14 2009 07:48 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Here's the 1969-1970 transactions --- most notably Johnny Murphy being claimed by the Angels --- as listed in the 1970 media guide. As with championship teams, the injury bug didn't hit them hard, and mostly led to good turns. An early back injury for Shamsky allowed Rod Gaspar to show his quality, and Shasmky came back better than new. Mid-season military duty for some guys may have slowed the chase to catch the Cubs, but if the other guys got the same sort of clerical duty that Tug McGraw got, then they probably appreciated the rest and came back fresher. Certainly their arms probably did, if not their legs. Anyhow, I hope this helps and is readable.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 14 2009 12:56 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Edgy DC wrote: Anyhow, I hope this helps and is readable. Yes, and yes. I've worked my way through about half of the pages posted here, and I appreciate the help you guys have been providing. It's interesting that, in some years, it looks like there would only be two or three players on the disabled list all season long. (That's hard to imagine in the wake of the 2009 season.) I wonder if that's accurate, or if the media guides aren't as thorough as they should be. I seem to remember that in the past there were limits to how many players could be on the DL at a time. There were a certain number of slots on the 15-day, and another number on the 21-day, and then there was the 60-day. And there also seems to have been an "emergency disabled list." (I don't know what the story is on that.) But maybe these limits caused teams to hesitate to disable a player. For example, it looks like Jerry Grote wasn't on the DL at all in 1972, although he seems to have missed a lot of playing time.

Edgy DC Oct 14 2009 01:33 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

How about that Uncle Maxie? http://stores.shop.ebay.com/unclemaxie__W0QQ_armrsZ1 Trying to move a 1965 for $149 and a 1964 for $239. And he's holding a 1963 hostage for $729. Hey, Maxie, give me a break. The price is supposed to drop when the team stinks.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2009 10:04 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Still haven't gone through all of the posted scans, but here's what I have so far: http://www.ultimatemets.com/disabledlist.php

Edgy DC Oct 20 2009 11:20 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

This seems to be basically what 1965 adds up to: Kevin Collins, Shoulder Surgery, 4/22/1965-9/1/1965 Ron Hunt, Shoulder Surgery, 5/12/1965-8/5/1965 Dennis Musgraves, Sore Elbow, 8/9/1965-9/21/1965

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2009 11:23 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Collins told me the shoulder injury occurred while he was making warm-up throws in the infield before what would have been his first major-league start.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2009 11:30 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

It's amazing how some years have so few DL stints, and other seasons have so many. There seem to be a lot fewer in the earlier years. I wonder, is it because of fewer injuries? Or because the rules of the time somehow made teams be more conservative about using the DL? Or is it because of incomplete data in the media guides? I suspect it's the second reason I listed, that it's some reflection of the rules that were in effect regarding the disabled list. But it's just a guess. I don't know for sure what changes have been made, although it seems that the 21-day list was eliminated at some point along the way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2009 11:31 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Roids

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2009 11:34 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

On that link I posted above, take a look at Ron Gardenhire in 1984 and 1985. Made me think, in an uncomfortable way, about Jose Reyes.

Edgy DC Oct 20 2009 11:43 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

1969: two injuries and three shifts with Uncle Sam. Art Shamsky, back injury, 4/8/1969-4/29/1969 Nolan Ryan, groin injury, 5/12/1969-6/8/1969 Ken Boswell, military duty, 5/30/1969-6/15/1969 Bud Harrelson, military duty, 6/25/1969-7/11/1965 Tug McGraw, military duty, 7/6/1969-7/20/1969

metirish Oct 20 2009 11:52 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I wonder if with todays high priced players the DL is used more than "back in the day" , with more money invested in players and all that. I guess that's what grim is wondering above too.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2009 11:54 AM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

I also think there may have been a maximum number of players who were allowed on the DL at any one time, which may have discouraged using the DL for nagging injuries so that you'd have open spots on the DL for the more serious stuff. Jerry Grote, for example, was injured throughout the 1972 season, yet (as far as I can tell) never went on the DL. He just had severely reduced playing time.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2010 02:17 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Now that the season is over, I've once again been motivated to take a fresh look at this. Here are the media guide seasons that I'm still missing. (Meaning that there may be disabled list transactions from the previous year that have not yet been logged.) 1963 1964 1965 1967 1968 1969 1971 1972 1974 1991 2006 2007 The full list of transactions that I've entered can be found at this page. And, below, are transactions that I know about but have not yet entered. (I still have to figure out how, or if, I'm going to log the military time.) And as for the injuries from 1972, 1977, and 1989, I'm going to see if I can find out what the injuries actually were. (I'm pretty sure that Felix Millan's was a separated shoulder from when he was slammed by Ed Ott of the Pirates, but I want to get that confirmed by some contemporary source if I can.) Thanks once again to everyone who helped with this way back last fall. If anyone can help fill in some of the remaining gaps, I'd very much appreciate it. 1969 MILITARY LIST Ken Boswell 5/30 to 6/15 Bud Harrelson 6/25 to 7/11 Tug McGraw 7/6 to 7/20 Ken Boswell 8/9 to 8/11 Nolan Ryan 8/11 to 9/1 1970 MILITARY LIST Nolan Ryan 6/26 to 7/16 Ken Boswell 7/14 to 8/3 Mike Jorgensen 8/14 to 9/1 Bill Sudakis 4/14/72 to 7/10 Jim Beauchamp 7/10/72 to 8/1 Bud Harrelson 8/3/72 to 8/25 Bob Myrick 7/5/77 to 7/29/77 Felix Millan 8/13/77 to end of season Mark Carreon 4/2/89 to 4/25 Tim Teufel 6/5/89 to 6/23 89 Barry Lyons 6/27/89 to 7/25/89 Dwight Gooden 7/2/89 to 9/2

Edgy DC Oct 11 2010 06:03 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Here are 2006 transactions as reported in the 2007 Media Guide.

G-Fafif Oct 12 2010 10:43 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 12 2010 11:44 PM

Doc in '89 was a small tear back of the shoulder. Teufel in '89 was sprained right ankle. Lyons in '89 was broken right toe. Carreon in '89 was I Don't Know but it happened before the season began; when he was reinstated, he was optioned to Tidewater. Myrick in '77 was a strained muscle in right rib cage. Millan in '77 was broken collarbone and separated shoulder. Harrelson in '72 was a strained back. Sudakis in '72 was right knee still in need of strengthening after it had "ironically" damaged cartilage in a 1971 collision with Duffy Dyer (according to '73 yearbook) Beauchamp in '72 was I Don't Know, but '73 yearbook says series of shoulder strains earlier in career robbed him of "sure-shot stardom".

G-Fafif Oct 12 2010 11:19 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

1990 transactions from the '91 Media Guide (scanner busted)... [TDW = Tidewater; JAX = Jackson; All DL assignments 15-day unless otherwise noted] 3/29 Minor League Camp for reassignment: Bross, Brown, Mike Miller, Schourek, Dave Trautwein, Valera, Hundley, Donnels, McDaniel, Jaime Roseboro 4/5 Brent Knackert claimed on waivers by SEA; Lombardi claimed on waivers by ATL 4/6 Beatty placed on 60-Day DL left elbow surgery 4/7 Mercado purch from TDW 4/8 Hughes outrighted to TDW 4/25 Innis optioned to TDW; Carr purchased from JAX 4/30 Miller on DL: right hamstring; Reed purchased from TDW; Boston claimed from CHW; Mercado outrighted to TDW; Thonrton optioned to TDW; Carr optioned to JAX [NOTE: Rosters were 27 men through April 30, 1990 because of short spring training after lockout] 5/16 Reed optioned TDW 5/17 Miller back from DL 5/18 Lyons to DL: lower back; Hundley recalled from TDW 5/30 Thornton recalled and outrighted to TDW; Hundley optioned to JAX 6/1 Mercado purch from TDW 6/2 Whitehurst optioned to TDW 6/3 Liddell purch from TDW 6/12 Liddell opt to TDW 6/13 Whitehurst recalled from TDW 6/17 Innis recalled from TDW 6/18 Machado optioned to TDW; Lyons recalled and optioned to TDW 6/19 Lyons assigned to TDW for rehab 7/9 Lyons optioned to TDW 7/11 Musselman opt to TDW 7/12 Hundley recalled from JAX 7/16 Marshall to DL: duodenitis; Diaz recalled from TDW 7/30 Jaime Rosebro recalled (NOT TO REPORT) and outrighted to JAX 7/22 Innis opt to TDW 7/23 Machado recalled from TDW 7/25 Hundley opt to TDW 7/26 Brown recalled from TDW 7/28 Marshall back from DL, traded to BOS for Greg Hansell, Endero Perozo and PTBNL 8/2 Brown optioned to TDW 8/3 Trevino signed as free agent 8/4 Elster to DL: tendinitis right shoulder 8/7 Torve purch from TDW 8/15 Miller to DL: lower-back spasms 8/16 Reed recalled from TDW 8/21 Carreon to DL: torn ligament right knee; Carr recalled from TDW 8/24 Carreon to 60-Day DL; Machado opt to TDW 8/25 Hundley recalled from JAX 8/28 Diaz opt to TDW 8/29 Baez purch from TDW 8/30 Tabler acq from KCR for Archie Corbin; Mercado claimed by MON; Valera recalled from TDW; Carr opt to JAX 8/31 Herr acq from PHI for Rocky Elli, Nikco Riego; O'brien acq from MIL with PTBNL for two PTBNL; Trevino waived for uncon rel; Elster to 60-Day DL 9/1 Miller back from DL 9/2 Brown recalled from TDW 9/4 Machado, Mussleman, Innis, Torve recalled from TDW; Jelic purch from TDW; Lyons waived for uncon rel 9/7 Trevino cliamed by CIN; Brown sent to MIL as O'Brien PTBNL; Hughes purch from TDW; Bross, Mike Miller, Donnels, Carr, McDaniel recalled from JAX not to report 9/10 Schatzeder acq from HOU for Steve LaRose and Nicky Davis 9/12 Diaz, David Trautwin recalled from TDW, not to report 10/4 Diaz, Torve outrighted to TDW 10/22 O'Malley uncon rel; Strawberry elects FA 10/24 Tabler elects FA 10/26 Schatzeder elects FA 10/29 Elster, Carreon, Beatty reinstated from emergency DL (60 Day) 11/8 Strawberry signs with LAD 11/13 Young purch from JAX; John Johnstone purch from TDW; Hughes, Jelic uncon rel 11/20 Trautwein outright to TDW; Hillman purch from TDW; Michael Miller outright to Boston on waiver claim 12/5 Simons selected from Portland (Rule 5) 12/5 Coleman signed as FA 12/13 Terry Puhl signed as FA 12/14 Mercado signed as FA (sez 12/24 but chronology implies otherwise) 12/15 Brooks acq from LAD for Ojeda and Hansell 12/21 Musselman not tendered, released 1/10/91 Torve signed as FA 1/21/91 Cerone signed as FA 1990 Opening Day Roster Cone, Darling, Fernandez, Franco, Gooden, Innis, Machado, Musselman, Ojeda, Pena, Viola, Whitehurst Lyons, Mercado, Sasser Elster, Jefferies, Johnson, Magadan, Marshall, O'Malley, Teufel Carreon, McReynolds, Miller, Strawberry, Thornton

G-Fafif Oct 12 2010 11:25 PM Re: Mets Media Guide assistance

Two UMDB notes I came across while pursuing my rich, full life during the 2010 season: • Andy Green played 1 game at 2B and 1 game at 3B in 2009 -- his defensive info is not listed on his player page and he's not listed among all-time second basemen and third basemen (leaving those totals one player short) • Dave Roberts signed as a free agent on January 5, 1981 and was released May 27, 1981; his transaction info is not listed on his player page and he's not listed on the Transactions page