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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2009 10:43 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 16 2009 07:11 AM

I haven't been able to help but absorb a flood of buzz around the Avett Brothers who got Rick Rubin to produce their latest album as part of a transparent strategy to emerge from underground folk heroes to crossover megastars of earnest folk-rock for the new decade. I'm completely out of the loop and never heard of 'em till a few months back where I saw 'em do a pretty intense performance on NPR. Now the new record is out, here's the lead video. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8HDe5M-Jo Btw, anyone else on Lala.com? What do you think? You can hear the whole album there for free.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 13 2009 10:51 AM Re: Buzzed

"Emotionalism" is wonderful. I listened that that album for a couple month straight when I got it. I also really like "Migonette", which is too long (like 20 songs), but all mostly guitar and banjo arrangements, if that's your thing. I got "I and Love and You" the day it came out and it's slower and quieter than "Emotionalism" or "Four Thieves" (which is good, too). It's also less hillbilly than then those others, too, which kinda sucks. I've come around on it, though. Live show is supposed to be second to none. Spring tour dates went on pre-sale this morning including Ithica?! Not on LaLa, though all the dudes at work are on it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2009 11:12 AM Re: Buzzed

Hey, will see them on Saturday.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2009 07:15 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

So the kool thing about lala.com, is that it'll allow you to listen to any song, or album, all the way thru once for free. After that, you can either get 30-seconds free, OR, buy the mp3 (89 or 99 cents, most look like) OR buy a "web" version (for like, 10 cents) that allows you unlimited plays at the website only. But wait -- you get 25 "free" web songs when you sign up. So, now you can spend as long as you can stand listening to FMan's "Album of the Day" in the morning. If you want.

metirish Oct 16 2009 02:14 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Btw, anyone else on Lala.com? What do you think? You can hear the whole album there for free. In a similar vein here are 25 great music sites.....there are some that work like Lala....there really are some great sites in here.... http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... tion=Popup

cooby Oct 18 2009 06:01 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

This is great information! Thank you both

A Boy Named Seo Oct 20 2009 01:35 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

That Black Cab Sessions is great.

metirish Oct 20 2009 01:39 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Better Tha The Van looks like a great concept http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... opup&ino=3

metirish Oct 23 2009 02:07 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Can this be an All Purpose Music Thread? Nostalgia right here http://todayspictures.slate.com/20091023/ 25 pix in all

Edgy DC Oct 25 2009 07:36 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Well, we have this, What Are You Listening to in 2009?, Track of the Day, Album of the Day, and Live and in Person, so I don't think we need an all-porpoise.

metirish Oct 25 2009 07:38 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yeas I know that Mr. cranky :) , I would have felt that the last few posts from me in this thread would not have been appropriate in those thread.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2009 07:43 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I certainly didn't mean to project cranky. Only meaning to graciously answer your question.

metirish Oct 25 2009 07:46 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I knew that. I was taking the piss

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2009 08:43 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

metirish wrote: Yeas I know that Mr. cranky :) , I would have felt that the last few posts from me in this thread would not have been appropriate in those thread. Best just to leave Track of the Day alone. We wouldn't want to risk any conversation there. Hey, some guitar-strummin chica is "following" me on Lala. Gonna shove a lotta Devo down her throat.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 26 2009 01:40 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Following? Maybe you guys already know this, but when you have a LaLa account, buying mp3 albums seems to be a buck or more cheaper through LaLa then going over to Amazon and buying em.

metirish Nov 02 2009 11:39 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Google is taking over http://www.google.com/landing/music/

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 11 2009 12:22 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Following? Maybe you guys already know this, but when you have a LaLa account, buying mp3 albums seems to be a buck or more cheaper through LaLa then going over to Amazon and buying em. Ya. $6.49 for Fables of the Reconstruction, or 99 cents for the web version. Boing. If someone "follows" you, they see what you're listening to on their feed. Neat feature. Generally I like the idea of finding the songs you like, seeing who else likes them, then finding out what they like. I could surf like that all day.

metirish Nov 12 2009 09:50 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I finally signed up for this last night......what the hell took me so long? , in the past I tried LasFM and Pandora and didn't like either of them...this I like though....I was playing around and I downloaded it's "music mover" feature not really knowing what it was about...anyway when I clicked start it said it was finding songs in my library that correspond with it's library and wanted to pull my songs into the area on the interface that is my song collection from Lala....I stopped it in progress as I was not sure what the implications would be. Not sure if I will buy any songs here but it is cool to be able to listen to them first.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 12 2009 10:35 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I bought an Emmylou Harris album and got that music mover which was required for the DL, I think, but it didn't try to move any of my stuff around. I think their web purchase thing is a good idea, though, if I'm gonna buy, I'll buy the full-on mp3 version. I'm down with the LaLa.

metirish Nov 12 2009 10:37 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

That makes sense...if I make a purchase I htink the mover thing makes it easy to get the purchase over to itunes too....

A Boy Named Seo Nov 12 2009 10:42 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It did create a new "LaLa" directory, but that directory was still under "Music" in the heirarchy on my laptop, so it made it to my iTunes just fine.

Fman99 Nov 12 2009 10:59 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: So the kool thing about lala.com, is that it'll allow you to listen to any song, or album, all the way thru once for free. After that, you can either get 30-seconds free, OR, buy the mp3 (89 or 99 cents, most look like) OR buy a "web" version (for like, 10 cents) that allows you unlimited plays at the website only. But wait -- you get 25 "free" web songs when you sign up. So, now you can spend as long as you can stand listening to FMan's "Album of the Day" in the morning. If you want. Oh, snap! Just saw this dig on me. Nicely done.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2009 11:35 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I listened to that whole Doobies album and dug it, man. Oh, and I'm now stalking Seo.

metirish Nov 12 2009 11:38 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

How would one find Seo if one so desired?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2009 11:58 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

My Lala > People, then there's a box on the right side to enter first and last name. Or, since I'm stalking you, you can click to me, then stalk him from my list of stalkees.

metirish Nov 12 2009 12:15 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Seems like he found me first....looking forward to some cool hillbilly music from Seo :)

A Boy Named Seo Nov 12 2009 01:17 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Stalkers. I've still got the training wheels on. Do you see what music I "have" or "like" or whatever? I haven't used it all that much yet.

metirish Nov 12 2009 01:21 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

If you click on my name it will show you what songs and albums I played.....Dickshot for instance is playing Chris Brown to death....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2009 01:31 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

metirish wrote: If you click on my name it will show you what songs and albums I played.....Dickshot for instance is playing Chris Brown to death.... Never even heard of that guy till a week ago. Unfortunate for a white pop singer to share a name with a girlfriend-beating hip-hop artist.

metirish Nov 14 2009 07:05 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Several bands I have entered into search have turned up nothing or songs that can't be played........

metirish Nov 19 2009 08:46 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Anyway else get a lot of stopping and starting with songs? , some songs play very choppy like.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 19 2009 09:34 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Nah, haven't had that once. Lala's perfect in every way to me.

metirish Nov 19 2009 09:37 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Nah, haven't had that once. Lala's perfect in every way to me. Interesting , freaking optimum That Louis Armstrong song is cool right?

A Boy Named Seo Nov 19 2009 09:39 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yah, I liked it. Heard Edith Piaf do it before, I think. She's something else, that one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 05 2009 03:49 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Apple is in talks to buy Lala. I was hoping Lala would defeat iTunes, now it looks like it may become iTunes. Bleh.

metirish Dec 05 2009 04:09 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Well there goes some of the competition and that blows. Now That You're Fed(Chris Brown) sells on Lala for $7:49 and $9:99 on iTunes...Jobs wouldn't like that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 12 2009 07:58 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I read where Apple is planning to turn iTunes into lala, but still call it iTunes. They've put all of the new guys in charge. The first time I used Lala was the last time I used iTunes, and I guess they realized that. I started uploading all my iTunage to lala at 9 am today, its about about 10 pm and there's about 300 songs to go.

metirish Feb 15 2010 07:33 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Hey JCL...... "100 % Fun" by Matthew Sweet is pretty good.......

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 15 2010 07:40 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

metirish wrote: Hey JCL...... "100 % Fun" by Matthew Sweet is pretty good....... Damn straight! I prolly like it better than "Girlfriend" -- it might not reach the peak of the latter (that is to say the intro of the title cut), but start to finish it's hard to beat.

metirish Feb 15 2010 07:43 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Shows you what I know. I just checked and it's from 1995....I feel like I just discovered a new artist.I'd heard of the guy but never payed attention. Cheers man

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 30 2010 12:50 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Anyone else as devastated as me to see Apple is going to officially kill Lala May 31. I can't tell ya how many songs new and old I heard that I never would have even known without that site; for the last six months I'd been more actively into music than I'd been since college, probably (I know, it shows). I sorta knew iTunes was in trouble as soon as I found this site, it's just a better mousetrap. And all the "web songs" I bought on lala for 10 cents each (about 150 of 'em) are gonna disappear overnight and convert to less than $20 in iTunes credits, or about what I'd pay for a 1 or 2 hard-drive cramming albums. Fuck you, Apple.

metirish Apr 30 2010 01:12 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yeah it sucks, I liked Lala , a recommendation form you JCL. While I didn't use it as much as you I didn't discover some cool new music . So , the songs that you bought for 10c will not be converted into 99c songs.....you could get 8 or 9 songs on Lala for the price of one in iTunes....the rumor is that an Itunes subscription is on the way.....FU is right.

A Boy Named Seo May 03 2010 12:05 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Completely sucks. Lala totally changed the way I've bought music the last year, and it's not like we're talking less $$ here or anything. I used to go to the record store and buy stuff all the time that I'd read about, though I hadn't heard but one or two song samples somewhere on the web. And all too often the whole thing would suck and I'd be out $13 bucks or whatever. With Lala, I loved listening to the whole thing, sometimes buying it, sometimes not, but every time finding 10 other things to listen to I never would've otherwise, and probably buying 2 or 3 of those. Agreed, FU Apple.

sharpie May 03 2010 12:24 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

yeah, between that and encouraging the local police to break down the door and take away the computers of the gizmodo guy, coupled with their ridiculous secrecy, they seem like the most paranoid company on the planet.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2010 09:10 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Apple douchbaggery could be its own thread. What gets me are the disciples. It's OK with me if you buy all the Apple products the day they come out, you don't have to go around rooting for competing products to fail and openly pitying anyone with the misfortune to have a mouse with a right-click button.

themetfairy May 04 2010 09:14 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Ever since my iTunes debacle a few years ago, I have hated Apple. And I can't stand Macs - they are not nearly as intuitive for me as PCs.

RealityChuck May 04 2010 10:39 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Interesting. I tried Lala, but preferred other sites (iTunes and Amazon). iTunes is one of the few things by Apple that I don't detest (working on their computers is like working underwater -- they're so damn slow. A friend pointed out that everything about an Apple computer is an ergonomic disaster -- designed to slow you down. More time to admire how cool they look, I guess.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2010 01:58 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

metirish May 04 2010 02:01 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

OMFG.....classic

themetfairy May 04 2010 02:18 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

The iTunes "Upgrade" Debacle Thread

seawolf17 May 04 2010 02:49 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I e-mailed Apple a question about adding an iTunes link to our site and they randomly gave me four free "song credits." Kinda cool.

Frayed Knot May 04 2010 02:51 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I have a bro-in-law who not only works in computers but is also one of those 'all praise to Apple' types. Only problem is that when he went to my mother's house a few weeks back to fix some minor problems with her Mac email it was about an hour and a half project. I'm one who finds their rep for user-friendliness vastly overblown but he doesn't want to hear it.

themetfairy May 04 2010 03:24 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Frayed Knot wrote: I'm one who finds their rep for user-friendliness vastly overblown but he doesn't want to hear it. I don't consider the fact that they told me to ask hp to solve a problem that Apple created to be particularly user-friendly.

Ashie62 May 04 2010 10:24 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Frayed Knot wrote: I have a bro-in-law who not only works in computers but is also one of those 'all praise to Apple' types. Only problem is that when he went to my mother's house a few weeks back to fix some minor problems with her Mac email it was about an hour and a half project. I'm one who finds their rep for user-friendliness vastly overblown but he doesn't want to hear it. Good, bad or indifferent all magazine graphic design is done on MAC OS10

Frayed Knot May 05 2010 07:35 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Which would be fine were I looking to design magazine covers. My point being not that they're lousy machines without redeeming qualities but rather that I find the rep - loudly spread by their disciples - about how everyday functions are so much easier and more logical to be not at all universally true and I'm starting to wonder if even somewhat accurate.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2010 07:59 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I work on a Mac here at the office everyday and other than the occasional lock-up with the safari browser, which doesn't get along with flash, it's fine. There is a lot to be desired with my home PC too. I've also never had any issues with iTunes or other Mac products as described in that other thread; I think Apple is to be admired for coming up with as many creative and elegant products as they have and I'm glad they exist. I in fact loved iTunes until lala made me realize for the first time that it could be done so much better. My complaint on Apple is more about general corporate douchebaggery and overzealous fans.

A Boy Named Seo May 05 2010 09:08 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm a longtime windows & unix/guy on intel-based hardware, but I'm a full-on mac convert for lots of reasons. That said, I don't like itunes and agree 1000% w/ JCL on their corporate douchebaggery and the fans. The issue at hand, though, what's a decent alternative to Lala? I'm reading about grooveshark(?) and rhapsody, but as I understand, w/ rhapsody you never "own" anything. I'm going to do some research today. Anyone have any others? EDIT: Here's a nice little breakdown. I'm giving MOG a test-drive NOW!!!! http://changingway.org/2010/05/01/alternatives-to-lala/

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2010 09:28 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yes, was going to check out MOG when I had a few minuites. My question with that service is, what happens when you stop paying $5 a month? Are you just sol?

A Boy Named Seo May 05 2010 09:45 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yes, was going to check out MOG when I had a few minuites. My question with that service is, what happens when you stop paying $5 a month? Are you just sol? It sounds like the $5 bucks gives you everything Lala did, except you get to listen to songs in their entirety as many times as you like (where as Lala was only once, unless you bought it). You can save your favorites to their "cloud library" and create playlists and stuff. I imagine if you stopped paying the $5, you couldn't really use any of it. It looks like to buy a song, they link you to Amazon [crossout]or iTunes[/crossout] (looks like just Amazon afterall), so what you buy is yours to keep. They also do a Pandora-style artist-based commercial-free radio station, but you can tweak the settings on the radio to introduce more or less similar artists (or just leave it strictly one artist only). Kinda cool. Rhapsody starts at $10 bucks for sorta the same shit and goes up to $15/mnth. Eff that. Mog seems OK so far.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2010 09:51 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I imagine if you stopped paying the $5, you couldn't really use any of it. That's kinda scary! But, I will see you there soon I think.

TransMonk May 05 2010 09:51 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I pay $13 a month for unlimited Rhapsody downloads. It's fairly easy to use. The dealio is that you are only supposed to be able to play the files you download on their player (meaning no iTunes/iPod)*. Really large selection, but no Beatles, Led Zep, Bruce, AC/DC, Eagles...yada, yada. *One could, if one were so inclined, spend approximately $30.00 to download a decoder from a third party that will convert the Rhapsody files to generic mp3s or iTunes ACC files. I'm sure iTunes and/or Rhapsody will figure out a way to stop this eventually, but in the meantime, if you don't mind standard audio quality (you're not going to get lossless this way), it works great.

A Boy Named Seo May 05 2010 10:52 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Signed up for the free trial. After just a few searches, I'm noticing that their catalog isn't as complete as Lala's is, and I'm not completely sure why. My emoticon face for MOG so far would be :/ And farting around with this stuff, I forgot the Met game was on. Damn me.

Rockin' Doc May 05 2010 07:43 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: And farting around with this stuff, I forgot the Met game was on. Damn me. Consider yourself lucky. You saved yourself a great deal of angst and ultimate heartbreak.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 06 2010 07:44 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Signed up for the free trial. After just a few searches, I'm noticing that their catalog isn't as complete as Lala's is, and I'm not completely sure why. My emoticon face for MOG so far would be :/ And farting around with this stuff, I forgot the Met game was on. Damn me. Be my Moggy buddy! [url]http://mog.com/Jonspringer

seawolf17 May 06 2010 08:28 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2010 09:25 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Signed up for the free trial. After just a few searches, I'm noticing that their catalog isn't as complete as Lala's is, and I'm not completely sure why. My emoticon face for MOG so far would be :/ And farting around with this stuff, I forgot the Met game was on. Damn me. Be my Moggy buddy! [url]http://mog.com/Jonspringer I think I just got all up in your mog. You on the free trial or did you just ante up?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 06 2010 09:26 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Free trial. Can I get my collection up there?

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2010 09:54 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Free trial. Can I get my collection up there? Dunno. Still have the training wheels on.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 06 2010 10:06 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yeah, it's kinda weird. Like, I don't know what to do.

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2010 07:41 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm not sure I'm gonna pay for this crap. I miss Lala already.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 06 2010 07:59 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Same. I have no idea what is going on with this site... and they are batting only about .500 on shit I looked for. I'd give a Lala clone $5 a month, but this isn;t that. Maybe we have to see what those iTunes fucktards will do.

A Boy Named Seo May 07 2010 08:47 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm in the wait and see boat, too. Mog seems to me like a way-less-impressive Lala combined with an at-least-as-good-as-the-original Pandora. Disappointed at how much I've searched for and come up empty on, too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2010 02:23 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Okay, now batting: Grooveshark [url]http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/user/jonspringer/3381125

A Boy Named Seo May 10 2010 10:28 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Any opinion so far on grooveshark? I didn't sign up yet, but did a quick click-around on that site and found they had way more stuff than Mog did. Irish is on Last.FM & Pandora. I've never tried Last, and haven't been on Pandora in a good while. I'm going to give those all a whirl tonight, I think.

metirish May 10 2010 11:38 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Seo, I thought I had your email......I see now on Pandora that you can find friends and see what they are at.......what's your email?(PM me)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2010 11:50 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I do have a pandora acct, but haven't used it much. Asaik, last.fm is the same. Or better? grooveshark is ok. All flash, so weird for a mac, seems like, but i've done better finding stuff than mog. The thing is, I think the whole thing is shared playlists and murky waters legally? Hit & miss on the songs. Not overtly social but maybe a redesign would help. Grooveshark like pandora has an accompanying app that works with my phone.

metirish May 10 2010 12:18 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I like both Pandora and Last.FM....both have good phone apps too....I've just started on both.....I guess the big difference with these two and Lala is that they build your station using your input. So far I have liked how both are doing it. When I created my Nick Cave station they then played William Elliott Whitmore who I had never heard of but am liking quite a bit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Elliott_Whitmore You could find me using conor.coen@gmail.com I like Last.FM too...maybe even more......just playing around with it I think you can do a bit more than on Pandora. You can also bring your library in to both Pandora and Last.FM.

metirish May 10 2010 12:26 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Looking at the FAQ for Pandora...... It's FREE......but if you surpass 40 hours in a calender month the music stops.....you can then do two things....pay 99c for the remainder of the month or just wait the month out until the next month rolls around.

Rockin' Doc May 10 2010 07:19 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I've been using Pandora on and off since last fall. I often just let it play in the background while I'm on the computer. I apparently don't use it too much as I have never had the music cut out on me for surpassing 40 hours in a month. Haven't actually used it in the past few weeks.

metirish May 12 2010 01:55 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I think I am starting to settle on Last.fm, most of my music listening is mobile and there mobile app is far superior to Pandora's , plus they have a library much bigger by the millions than that of Pandora , they have all the major labels on board, plus they are indie heavy , plus this In October 2006, Last.fm brought back its free download service which allowed users to download select tracks as specified by the artist or the label. The service only includes tracks on "indie" labels or by bands who upload their own material, although some artists who have since moved onto a major label (such as Coheed and Cambria and My Chemical Romance) have kept their free songs available for download. More than 100,000 songs are currently downloadable,[23] and there is a separate free download chart, updated weekly, showing the 200 most popular tracks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last.fm

Edgy DC Jun 08 2010 02:13 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Grooveshark's error page: http://down.grooveshark.com/

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2010 08:02 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Hey I complained to so many people about Lala going down one of them alerted me to this beta site by the Scype/Joost guys, called Rdio. It looks like Lala in many ways. You can sync up and store your itunes collection, it has a built-in social network, you can buy mp3s, share to fb, etc etc etc. Pricing is like Mog/Rhapsody ($5 a month for web, and $10 a month for a membership that also includes mobile phone access). I am still goofing off with Mog but find it too complicated and my trial ends soon. Looks like if I'm gonna do the $5/month thing this site could be better. I have 10 invites for 3 day trials, let me know if you wanna be my new streaming butt buddy (I think I'd need an email addy so if you prefer to pm me that's fine!) [url]http://www.rdio.com/ Testing a url song share: [url]http://rd.io/x/QGJDK2KO3w Here's a review of the site... [url]http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/17/rdio-rocks-review/

A Boy Named Seo Jun 20 2010 08:09 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Yes, yes, yes! Thx, man. Lemme know if you need my email & I'll get it to you. Not fond of Last or Mog either. Miss Lala all kinds still.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2010 08:23 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Sent you one

Edgy DC Jun 20 2010 08:33 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm in, for three days at least. Don't know if I'll get the time to experiment in that period.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 20 2010 08:34 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Cool, already on. Hadn't heard of this one. Looks most lala-ish yet. $10/month for "full-on access" (lappy plus smartphone) or $5 for web-only access. Looks like you can't buy stuff on the trial. I'm liking it, but pausing a bit at the $10 price tag. I'd probably wanna use the iphone app + iTrip for full-on hardcore access if I was gonna do it.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 20 2010 08:56 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

FYI - grabbed the iphone app (I might be the only one now, I forget) and the app works pretty well. Has your online collection (I was playing Eels on my trial and it showed up on the app), has any playlists you've made, a search function, and a sync, which I'm not sure what that does (probably w/ my itunes on my phone, I bet). No friends/social stuff is on the app, but it seems basic and good & works OK for me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2010 08:59 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Edgy DC wrote: I'm in, for three days at least. Don't know if I'll get the time to experiment in that period. Same here, very busy for a few days. But I'd imagaine they'd still let in if you don't buy in immediately. I have a free pandora app for my phone which I guess is ok, I suppose I could add the mobile part later.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 20 2010 09:38 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Seems the cool part about the $10/month is that unlike with the free Lala, you can listen to full songs/albums over and over and it seems to stay in your collection. Is there a need to buy at that point really? And everybody still gets some $$??

metirish Jun 21 2010 07:04 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Thanks for the invite , I'l check it out at home , no app for Android yet though...it's coming....$10 a month is a turnoff.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 21 2010 07:10 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It is a bit of a turnoff, but I'm thinking w/ $10 per month, you'd have the songs in your collection on the lappy plus your cell (when they get the droid app) so most peeps would largely be covered there w/ home, work, car (itrip, whatever), on the run (smartphone + headphones). Might be purchasing way less of individual albums/songs. Only thing you couldn't do is burn albums or make epic mix CD's for dangerous chixxx unless you start buying up mp3's.

metirish Jun 21 2010 07:14 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

So , wqhat yo9u are saying is this.....for $10 a month I can download unlimited songs/albums to Rdio but you can't burn them for keeps(I'm ok with that actually). I mean it sounds good in theory right? Basically you are paying them $10 a month to stream songs for you?

A Boy Named Seo Jun 21 2010 07:30 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It sounds like it, yes. And since you're paying, you can replay songs over and over in their entirety, unlike free Lala. I think that's pretty how Rhapsody works, yah? And w/ no droid app, you could do that for $5/month. I don't see any "limits" to how many songs you can play or not. I was looking in the FAQ and it says your "Collection" is just similar to the bookmarks feature on Lala. Just highlighting your favs. So I'm listening to "Beautiful Freak" by Eels right now for the second time, just to play with shit. If I ponied up the $10, I could listen to the album anytime I had my computer or phone and wouldn't really need to buy it, unless I wanted to burn it, or listen to it offline somewhere, like an airplane or bomb shelter. Prtty cool, I'm thinking. I'm finding the selection to be OK, too. You guys?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2010 09:50 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

They had almost nothing by the Kinks for whatever reason, and only have 2 hoodoo Gurus albums, even though the new one is already out in the US on one of their partner labels (Sony). They say they are still adding in beta mode. So, OK so far. About the same as Mog.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 21 2010 12:27 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

They don't have the new Pernice Bros that came out last week and I struck out looking for stuff I found on Lala (Mumford & Sons, Frightened Rabbit). 5 million songs, but missing 1 or 2 just the same.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 21 2010 07:22 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Been cruising around town on my bike like <--- this dude and the Rdio app was my new BFF. Worked like a champ.

TheOldMole Jun 23 2010 07:51 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Lala gave me exactly what I wanted -- nothing else comes close.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 23 2010 08:54 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Sent you an Rdio invite Tad. Never knew you were on Lala!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 04:34 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

So I heard about this service, wrote them for an invite, and while waiting to hear back, received an invite from a friend. When my invite from Rdio came in, I told them, thanks but I already signed up and love the service (which I do). They sent me 20 invites! LMK if you want one! Rdio 4 eva. Gonna get a tattoo.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 07:20 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Funny, man. I'm still striking out a lot looking for different stuff, but think that'll change over time. Dig it quite a bit and today for the first time starting thinking about how bummed I'd be already if I canceled and lost all the stuff in my "collection" or if I was out of internet range and couldn't access the cloud. Rdio's like crack rock.

Edgy DC Jul 08 2010 08:38 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

So, I still haven't had time to test-drive this baby. If I buy in, which mobile listening device should I get and why?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2010 08:43 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It'd be an add-on to your phone if you had a IPhone or a blackberry or a Droid. I use it just on the web at the moment, currently listening to the Who's studio albums in order!

Edgy DC Jul 08 2010 08:46 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Well, I don't got no smartphone, baby. I'm not yet in the market for one of those, but I need something to keep me from going bats while I'm exercising.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2010 09:06 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Well, I'd be hesitant to buying an iPod now that it's obvious to me that owning music will very soon be a thing of the past.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 08 2010 09:34 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Lunchbucket's right. I subscribed to the $10 package so I have web access which I use at work & home, and the smartphone access which I use at the beach or running or whatever, plus in the car w/ the iTrip. And your massive online "collection" goes with you wherever. I like having my 32GB iphone crammed with my own songs just in case I'm camping or whatever & out of cell range. If you're out of cell range, you can't get the cloud, and you get no music. Hasn't happened to me yet, though.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 09 2010 08:24 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

My queue is always empty now. Anyone else seeing this? Edit: Think this might be me right now. Queue Amnesia ORIGINAL POST Surrey July 07, 2010 @ 07:46 AM via web Every so often my queue and now-playing queue just randomly gets wiped. I can't seem to reliably re-create the problem, but I think it's related to having the Desktop app open. Some combination of opening the desktop app and closing/opening the browser just makes rdio forget everything in the queue. Anyone else have this problem, or at least know how to reliably make it happen? SUPPORT STAFF2 Posted by April Bee on July 07, 2010 @ 11:06 AM Hi Surrey, This is a semi-known issue unfortunately. Your queue might be erased if you attempt to use your Rdio account from more than one computer or browser at the same time. It may also be erased if you have Rdio open on more than one of your browser tabs. We're looking into this bug, because it's quite annoying. If you're able to reproduce it reliably, please do let us know. Cheers, April

A Boy Named Seo Jul 09 2010 10:10 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Don't think that was my prob in the end either. But I was getting an empty queue in any browser. I ended up tossing my cookies and the second time I restarted Chrome, it worked. Dunno.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 11:10 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I don't tend to maintain much of a queue, I want what I want when I want it. But in mid-album or whatever, it's always come up for me. One thing that's cool in this site is the collaborative playlist. Not that I know of any practical reasons to make one yet. I am also going to start the CPF Desert Island Mix-Tape Winners as a playlist soon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2010 01:36 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm not telling you you're a complete idiot not to subscribe, but where else can you hear the all-new, revised Tempted by the Fruit of 1981 list including Tenpole Tudor? [url]http://rd.io/x/QGJDLwKh

Edgy DC Sep 30 2010 01:57 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Wunderbar! What order is that list in? I seem to remember you had "Message of Love" first.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2010 02:05 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I built it like a countdown, so Message of Love is still No. 1. The top 20 or so are the same as when I did the list initially, although a few songs were unavailable for streaming (King Crimson, Greg Kihn, Joan Jett) and I went back on my initial policy not to include multiple entries from the same record.

metirish Nov 08 2010 08:20 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'm not telling you you're a complete idiot not to subscribe, but where else can you hear the all-new, revised Tempted by the Fruit of 1981 list including Tenpole Tudor? [url]http://rd.io/x/QGJDLwKh As you know I am now doing the trial of this......not totally getting it though and didn't read the fine print but give us a quick rundown on the pros and cons here $9:99 a month for what exactly?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 08 2010 08:57 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Saw where you hopped aboard. $5 gets you unlimited streaming of the entire collection on your desktop & the next $5 allows you to stream on your mobile device wherever you get internet. Adding songs/albums to "your collection" helps define your profile for other users and (I think) might make it easier to retrieve stuff mobile-y. The selection is pretty good and getting better every week. Invite your friends to also join. Seek out and network with people who like the same songs you do. Make playlists to accompany all your gay musical moods. Participate in "collaborative" playlists. Review any song, album or playlist. Rubuke my raking of 1981 songs or the recently completed 1979 list ( [url]http://rd.io/x/QGJDLx8z ). Fun!

A Boy Named Seo Nov 08 2010 09:21 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I find the extra $5 to be completely worthwhile. I use the mobile version while running, or in the car with an iTrip. As long as my cell gets a signal and I can hit 'the cloud' (not a given w/ AT&T), my entire RDIO collection is w/ me. Play songs/albums as many times as you like. Queue up stuff to hear later. Can't burn anything unless you pay for an mp3 separately. Love going through on new release day & adding stuff. Also great getting recommendations from peeps + making cute new lady friends w/ good musical taste ("oh, u love them, too? I love them!"). The playlist thing JCL mentioned. He's got a 'mystery' one I haven't figured out yet. I think you'll dig it, man. Any Q's, just ask.

metirish Nov 08 2010 09:25 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Jesus , who knew Bucket and Seo were the company execs? sell that bitch baby.....I do like how you can sync between your PC and mobile device....like last night I synced a Lucero album that was there on the mobile this morning when I wnated to listen to it(obviously it wasn't syncing all night smart ass)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 08 2010 09:31 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: IAlso great getting recommendations from peeps + making cute new lady friends w/ good musical taste ("oh, u love them, too? I love them!"). I'm all up the guts of this one chick there. I'm banging the shit our of her collection and she's sucking mine dry. The playlist thing JCL mentioned. He's got a 'mystery' one I haven't figured out yet. If you do get it, just be cool and show you get it by adding more correct answers. I want to punish all the snobs who've made it a friggin ghost town while congratulating themselves on creating a playlist containing only Danish songs.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 12 2010 09:34 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Subscribed to it. Will have to look again & see if I can figure it out. When peeps add a song that doesn't jibe, do u whack it? the song? Does RDIO have a 'shuffle' feature I can't locate? Sometimes would like to just shuffle my collection all day.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2010 09:55 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I saw where a playlist or queue feature was added, but I can't find it now. I think they are still futzing with it. I also read where they are working to improve social features so that you don;t need to pretend to review an album to get a message to someone. You'd be surprised how few additions (even listens) the Mystery List has gotten. There's been one bad addition but I left it on there as a kind of red herring clue: What do all the songs on the list except #215 have in common? It's not really a great mystery or anything: It's just one of those things. Going out and finding examples on purpose is sort of stupid so it's more fun to make it a quiz

A Boy Named Seo Nov 13 2010 05:22 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Shuffle an artist, it looks like. Shuffle your whole collection is 'in the works'. http://help.rdio.com/faqs/web/top-secre ... n-features

TheOldMole Nov 14 2010 11:33 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I'd lost track of this thread, just looked at it again -- ran some searches against obscure old weird stuff that I like, and came up aces nearly every time. So I'll be subscribing as soon as I get my internet stuff straightened out again.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2010 11:46 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It's great. And like JCL said, they're always adding more stuff. I've checked back on artists or albums I've struck out on before, and found they were added later. The social-aspect needs lots of work, but that's pretty secondary anyway.

TheOldMole Nov 18 2010 10:43 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

OK, I registered for a 3-day trial. I want to play "Touch the Hem of His Garment" by the Soul Stirrers to my class, and it just suddenly vanished from YouTube between this morning and now. So OK, good a time as any to start on Rdio. So I go to "The Soul Stirrers" and discover that every one of their songs is listed as "unavailable." So I search again on "Touch the Hem of His Garment" and find that I can actually get it there, in a Sam Cooke collection. But...it won't play. I click the "Play" button and nothing happens. So OK, maybe if I add it to a collection? So I do that, and am taken to a page of other collections that also feature the song, high among them being a certain Jon Springer. So I sign up to follow his page, and I try again to see if I can play something off his collection. No go. Nothing will play. What am I doing wrong (besides associating with Jon Springer)? Is it because I'm still on the trial, and haven't actually signed up? If so, that's not much of a trial? Is it because I'm on a school computer? But I can play YouTube, and I used to be able to play LaLa. What's the story?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 18 2010 11:11 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Hmmm... First, be sure that you are signed in. I think when you arrived at the album you wanted, you hit the "Collections" tab and got a list of users who have that song/album in their collection. If you want to add the album to YOUR collection, you need to go to the "add to my collection" thingy on the drop-down menu to the right of the album title. I'm pretty sure that drop-down will not appear if you are not signed in. To play, hit the little play button next to the album or song. Their search is a little whacky since there are multiple versions of many recordings and the search results are returned in five different categories: Artists, Songs, Albums, Playlists, People. You kinda have to work with it a little. Here is a link to the alum you want: [url]http://www.rdio.com/#/artist/Sam_Cooke/album/Portrait_of_a_Legend_(Remastered)/ or [url]http://rd.io/x/QGJDPka96Q I will go search for you and be your streaming buddy

TheOldMole Nov 18 2010 11:23 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

The thing is, I did all of that. But when I hit the play button, it wouldn't play.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 18 2010 11:25 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

It's kind of annoying when you do find an album and/or a song and it's listed, but is "unavailable". Sometimes that's temporary and it's added later. When I searched by the song title, I saw the Sam Cooke one JCL posted and some others, too, and 2 versions by the Soul Stirrers, one "unavailable" and one from a live album that they do have. http://rd.io/x/QGJRK1CZRw

metirish Nov 18 2010 11:25 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

TheOldMole wrote: The thing is, I did all of that. But when I hit the play button, it wouldn't play. You're not using this are you?

A Boy Named Seo Nov 18 2010 11:27 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

PS - both the links JCL posted work fine 4 me. Mole, if it says "unavailable", keep looking for another version.

TheOldMole Nov 18 2010 11:35 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Well, I'm on my way to class now. I can play 1:30 of the song through iLike, which will be enough for my purposes. I'll see if there's just something weird about accessing it through this computer. Meanwhile, I have to write a descort by this weekend.

TheOldMole Nov 18 2010 03:51 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

OK, it was my office computer. Works fine at home.

TheOldMole Nov 18 2010 04:07 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Interesting what they don't have -- like almost nothing by Peter, Paul and Mary.

TheOldMole Nov 21 2010 08:10 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

OK, one more question, since I'm iPhone challenged, but want to put Rdio on my stepdaughter's iPhone -- how do I that?

A Boy Named Seo Nov 21 2010 10:50 AM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

She'll need the app + an Rdio subscription. Download the free app in the iTunes store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rdio/id335060889?mt=8 (or she can get it directly from her phone via the 'App Store' button). Then the first time she runs the app on her phone, she will need to login w/ a user name + password (that's where her subscription comes in). Bingo bango, that's it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 29 2010 07:41 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Any of yous who want to check out Rdio and its streaming yellow magic, they are giving away annual subscriptions every day till 12/25 on their facebook site. [url]http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Rdio/143872364361?v=app_121121694568521

Rockin' Doc Nov 29 2010 07:49 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

Now all I have to do is get a Facebook page and I'm all set. I guess creating a page would give me something to do with the kids when they are back home from college.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 29 2010 08:09 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

rdio got a little bit of a make-over, huh? the new 'play rdio station' button that appears all over is great. it lets you play a random number of songs from your network's recent adds, your own recent adds, or if you pop over to your collection, you can hit play from there, and it will random from all of your collection. that place is getting better & better.

TransMonk Jun 22 2011 02:43 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

I just went through my first month of using Slacker radio. I disliked both the Pandora and Rhapsody radio features, so I ponied up the $3.99 to test out Slacker ad-free. I highly recommend it. It is similar to Pandora in the way that you can like, ban and skip songs, but the setup of artists that you enjoy is WAY more comprehensive. Where Pandora would play the same artists over and over...Slacker is much more varied. I listen to it while I run on the Android app, and I haven't heard a repeat yet.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2011 03:24 PM Re: LaLa (formerly Buzzed)

The guy from the Times explores the music cloud, agrees with me that all-you-can-eat on-demand is the future: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/arts/music/new-online-services-offer-hope-to-music-fans.html For me, though, the great hope of the cloud is the subscription services, like MOG and Rdio. Their catalogs are deep, their interfaces sensible, their sound quality decent though not spectacular. For every fan who imagines herself a D.J., there’s a new social curatorial model arising in these services, somewhere between the old homemade cassette mixtape handed to a friend and full-scale broadcasting, with a giant potential library. You can flaunt or hide what you’re listening to; you can get ideas from others’ playlists or copy them wholesale.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 23 2011 09:13 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

The LA Times recently ran a similar piece centered around Spotify. The old model's on its last legs, for sure. I'm currently on a free trial of Carbonite, an online cloud personal storage service ($54.99/year, unlimited storage, so far so good) and am looking forward to ripping the last of my CDs, uploading them, and being rid of them forever. With Sirius/Rdio with me everywhere, the CD player in my car seems all quaint, like an old tape deck or something. Less is way effing more.

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 09:20 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

We have a 2000 Dodge Neon with no CD player, just a tape deck. We run our iPod into it through one of those tape converter thingies. I haven't gotten into the cloud craze yet. I have all my music (and pics) stored on an external hard drive.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 23 2011 09:39 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I signed up for Mozy thinking it was cloud storage but it's actually cloud "backup" -- that is, it backs up what's on your hard drive but doesn't necessarily keep it if you move it off your hard drive. So my mp3s are still jamming up my home computer. Let me knpow if carbonite is any good and I'll consider a move when my Mozy expires. Read where Spotify was readying a US launch as early as next month, having gotten most of the licensing deals it needed. Its strange that that service has a better buzz than Rdio despite (or maybe because) it doesn't exist here yet. Apparently the songplaying technology is superior (non-flash) and quicker to respond. Free? But apparently heavily ad-supported. Anyway, Rdio could use a higher profile. I realized one of the things I like about Rdio is the social aspect. Not the interaction so much, but the feeling you're a part of something larger, similar to the way I like hearing my favorite songs on the radio, the idea that its not a totally solitary pursuit. Social + music works.

metirish Jun 23 2011 09:49 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Bucket , sign up for Google music , it's beta so no guarantee you'll get an invite , you choose what music goes to the cloud, up to 20,000 songs...the phone app of course only works on Android and I hate to admit it sucks , of course they are working on it yyybbb....my one big gripe with cloud apps is the connectivity, the Amazon mp3 cloud is great but on my phone it doesn't always connect or at least struggles to connect. I will say that one big difference in the Amazon and Google versions is the sound quality, any of the various other ones I tried don't match up that well in sound quality(Audo Galaxy , Mog ,Mspot)

Edgy DC Jun 23 2011 09:51 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Agreed. A large part of the joy of music is connecting with people.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 23 2011 11:36 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

metirish wrote: Bucket , sign up for Google music , it's beta so no guarantee you'll get an invite , you choose what music goes to the cloud, up to 20,000 songs...the phone app of course only works on Android and I hate to admit it sucks , of course they are working on it yyybbb....my one big gripe with cloud apps is the connectivity, the Amazon mp3 cloud is great but on my phone it doesn't always connect or at least struggles to connect. I will say that one big difference in the Amazon and Google versions is the sound quality, any of the various other ones I tried don't match up that well in sound quality(Audo Galaxy , Mog ,Mspot) Sounds pretty alright, the free part is good, too. Still have to buy the mp3's and push them up to the cloud, and not buying craploads of mp3s or albums is where Rdio crushes everyone for me. I've saved so much money not actually purchasing albums, but purchasing one subscription instead. I'm iPhone anyway, so they probably don't want me now. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I signed up for Mozy thinking it was cloud storage but it's actually cloud "backup" -- that is, it backs up what's on your hard drive but doesn't necessarily keep it if you move it off your hard drive. So my mp3s are still jamming up my home computer. Let me knpow if carbonite is any good and I'll consider a move when my Mozy expires. Read where Spotify was readying a US launch as early as next month, having gotten most of the licensing deals it needed. Its strange that that service has a better buzz than Rdio despite (or maybe because) it doesn't exist here yet. Apparently the songplaying technology is superior (non-flash) and quicker to respond. Free? But apparently heavily ad-supported. Anyway, Rdio could use a higher profile. I realized one of the things I like about Rdio is the social aspect. Not the interaction so much, but the feeling you're a part of something larger, similar to the way I like hearing my favorite songs on the radio, the idea that its not a totally solitary pursuit. Social + music works. Sounds like Spotify Premium (mobile access, pay subscription) becomes pretty similar to Rdio. Not sure on the quality/social aspects, but I'll trial it when it gets here. I do think Rdio could improve the social aspect of their service (a direct message to a user w/out the guise of suggesting an album would be nice) but like that the social aspect is not the focal point. The music still is. I'd be lost if Rdio closed up shop tomorrow. Let you know on Carbonite.

seawolf17 Jun 23 2011 12:24 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I just got my Google Music invite; uploading 10,000 tracks right now.

metirish Jun 23 2011 12:29 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

seawolf17 wrote: I just got my Google Music invite; uploading 10,000 tracks right now. be prepared for several days of uploading, weeks even.

metirish Jun 23 2011 12:38 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

The desktop works like a gem but the android app needs a lot of work, the shuffle doesn't work , I gave them feedback on that and they responded that it is a known issue.

seawolf17 Jun 23 2011 01:57 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: I just got my Google Music invite; uploading 10,000 tracks right now. be prepared for several days of uploading, weeks even. Started this morning after the fam left, and it's 1300 tracks in. If it keeps that up, it should be done by the weekend. I hope they clear up the Android issues, because I would LOVE to do it all on one device and punt my iPod.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 26 2011 09:10 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Turntable.fm addicting.

metirish Jun 27 2011 07:36 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Turntable.fm addicting. I goggled it and it one option was to go to my FB page and "Allow" it to access whatever and I was in, as a general rule I hate doing that without even knowing what I am giving permission to. I applied for an invite. What's the scoop JCL?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 07:57 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Yeah, harmless as far as I can tell. You get in using FB, and go to a room, get a seat at the DJ table, then search for songs to play. If people like them you get points, if they don't, your song can end early. Also, in order to play songs, it has to have an audience, so there's some pressure not to suck. Fun and stupid. Some rooms are jammed full of people and DJs play for hours. Last night I somehow got a seat at this 80s room full of people but my computer futzed out on me or I'd have been there all night. Let me know if you're in, we can go DJ together.

TheOldMole Jun 27 2011 10:42 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I'll check it out, although I shouldn't. I was about ready to drop Rdio, but now with iPad, I'm using it a lot more.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 06:22 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

OK, I set up a room for the cpf. Anyone who's my friend on FB -- or has any friend on FB also on turntable -- can join. Grab a seat at the DJ table and spin a platter. Let me know if you wanna check it out, I'm known as Roadblock66! http://turntable.fm/cranepool

metirish Jun 27 2011 06:58 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

looking for you

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 07:02 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I'm in that room now

metirish Jun 27 2011 07:05 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

is my song playing cos I can't hear it...the site may not be chromebook friendly...but this shit has the potential to be awesome.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 07:06 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

MetIrish on the wheels of steel, rockin Nick Cave. Try to click on the speakers, that's the volume.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 07:07 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Yes, your song is playing. Site is beta, might not support your device (?) I have no idea

metirish Jun 28 2011 07:30 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Actually the problem with me not hearing my songs was the laptop updated and a known issue to google is the speakers now only work with headphones. We need a thread for this awesome site.....I envision a bunch of us here in the cranepool sharing great tunes.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 28 2011 09:54 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Read yesterday there are licensing issues w/ turntable and they've cut off any non-American users. USA! USA! Got my Google Music invite today. Wondering if I should even bother, being an iPhoner.

metirish Jun 28 2011 10:07 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Read yesterday there are licensing issues w/ turntable and they've cut off any non-American users. USA! USA! Got my Google Music invite today. Wondering if I should even bother, being an iPhoner. The android app is so bad that I have started going to google.com/music on my phones browser, no reason why that can't work on the iPhone, it's all web based baby...I would still upload your music as you can access it anywhere you have a connection ...on the road with your laptop?, in Guatemala with some sheila?

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2011 11:41 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Big article in this past Sunday NYTimes (Jon Parales - Arts & Leisure section) on the plusses & minuses of "cloud" music services and the like. Just skimmed it myself but some of you eager participants might get some info out of it.

TheOldMole Jun 29 2011 10:08 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Joined the Cranepool Turntable bunch, but there's no one else in the room right now.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 29 2011 10:43 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I signed up for Mozy thinking it was cloud storage but it's actually cloud "backup" -- that is, it backs up what's on your hard drive but doesn't necessarily keep it if you move it off your hard drive. So my mp3s are still jamming up my home computer. Let me knpow if carbonite is any good and I'll consider a move when my Mozy expires. Gonna go ahead & buy Carbonite. Uploaded 8GB of crap so far and it's easier than anything. If anything it's too simple, and not all that configurable. Click stuff you want to back up and it's backs it up. That's it. Again, it's unlimited storage, and this is the coolest part, using their mobile app (iphone/droid/bberry) you can access and read any documents stored w/ them from your mobile device & if it's music, you can play it, too. I kinda dig that.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 14 2011 09:04 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Spotify's here. Waiting for an invite to get into this swanky club.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2011 01:26 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Spotify's here. Waiting for an invite to get into this swanky club. Me too I guess.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 06:14 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Got it late last night, still trying to figure it out though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 08:30 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I dunno. Crashed my crappy old PC while launching the first time, though that's probably me not them. Got it to work this morning for a bit, but FB connection didn't succeed, looks like that's only way to be "social" with the service. Otherwise, requires you to download the player, which is a nonstarter at work. Also, free for now (how?) with ads on the screen. Thanks anyway.

TransMonk Jul 15 2011 01:49 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

What's this Spotify thing all about?

metirish Jul 16 2011 06:15 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

What's this Spotify thing all about? Similar article , compares different services http://www.businessinsider.com/welcome- ... the-game-4

metirish Jul 20 2011 07:07 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I dunno. Crashed my crappy old PC while launching the first time, though that's probably me not them. Got it to work this morning for a bit, but FB connection didn't succeed, looks like that's only way to be "social" with the service. Otherwise, requires you to download the player, which is a nonstarter at work. Also, free for now (how?) with ads on the screen. Thanks anyway. got the invite , can't download player to chromebook....that sucks right of the bat....on the android app it has somehow pulled 72 songs , what they call "local songs" from what looks like previously played songs on my Google music app.....the phone app looks cool though....still , I need to pay $9:99 a month for full service , O was loath to pay this before but am in fact leaning towards doing that....JCL, you've been using Rdio for the longest time, is it worth the monthly fee....you use the phone app a lot?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:11 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Seo would be the guy to ask about mobile -- I don't use it yet on Rdio. But is it wirth 5 bucks a month to listen to whatever you want whenever? Yes it really is.

metirish Jul 20 2011 07:38 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

For me it's the mobile part I like , and I really like the social aspect of Rdio, can I get all that on the phone....can I see your mystery list there?

TheOldMole Jul 21 2011 08:20 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I went for the extra 5 when I got my ipad. And I do use it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2011 08:14 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Rdio is all hooked up with the facebook now, let me know if my listening habits are f-ing up your feeds. Meantime, Rdio is finally offering a free version for you cheapstakes out there. They are limiting spins I think, not sure what else they are denying.

TransMonk Oct 06 2011 08:23 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Does Rdio have you on the marketing payroll yet, JCL? :) I'm going to have to give this a try, I think. I love Slacker, but my station is getting a little tired.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 06 2011 09:22 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I wholeheartedly back Rdio, too. Spotify's got the buzz, but I liked Rdio way better head-to-head. A guy like you would dig the crap out of it, TM.

metirish Oct 21 2011 08:28 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

The web version of Rdio is now FREE......just log on through your FB and your set......you still need an unlimited plan for mobile but honestly when I listen it's at home.......to celebrate I played The Smiths over and over....

Edgy DC Oct 21 2011 08:42 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

And nothing says celebrate like "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now."

A Boy Named Seo Oct 21 2011 09:27 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

metirish wrote: The web version of Rdio is now FREE......just log on through your FB and your set......you still need an unlimited plan for mobile but honestly when I listen it's at home.......to celebrate I played The Smiths over and over.... Pretty sure that's how Spotify goes, free online, pay for the rest. Probably good for the life of Rdio that they linked up w/ FB, otherwise I could see Spotify swallowing em up. Their name's got all the buzz.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2011 10:11 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed)) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 21 2011 10:23 AM

My understanding of "free" Rdio is that they have you on a monthly listening limit. They won't say what that limit is, but obviously the idea is just enough to get you to start paying them. Said it before, but there's no way if you're doing it right that $5 a month is too [crossout:lz9mbt9j]cheap[/crossout:lz9mbt9j] expensive for what you can potentially get out of it. I'm mulling getting one of those Sonos systems at home to get a drive a better audio experience out of it. It's basically a wireless loudspeaker for streaming audio, anyone tried it? My issue with Rdio at home now is that it plays through the crappy computer speakers that don;t sound good especially across the room from them.

metirish Oct 21 2011 10:18 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I see a little green bar up top on the left that's an indicator, looks like I might have shot my load already just about.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 21 2011 10:43 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

metirish wrote: I see a little green bar up top on the left that's an indicator, looks like I might have shot my load already just about. About how many songs you think you played before you maxed out? John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My issue with Rdio at home now is that it plays through the crappy computer speakers that don;t sound good especially across the room from them. My speakers at home are like ~$75 pair of 3-ch Creative speakers. They're just OK, a 'higher-end computer speaker', but 1000x better than the shitty work speakers I'm listening to Graham Parker on NOW!!!! Haven't tried the Sonos, though, or know anyone who has.

metirish Oct 21 2011 10:46 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I started playing The Smiths last Friday night after Rdio emailed me to say I was a cheap bastard but now I could play tunes for free....the album was a 45 song collection that I played a few time in the last week....also played a bunch of other stuff......I'm going to max her out tonight just for the craic......

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2011 10:51 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Dude, I crushed your whole "Best of Irish" playlist and left a comment.

metirish Oct 21 2011 10:52 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Dude, I crushed your whole "Best of Irish" playlist and left a comment. sweet, I'll see it later...just checked, can't access it from work.....asshole work people...

metirish Oct 22 2011 10:13 AM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I subscribed for the $5 a month, can't beat that for value, especially when I see Seo and JCL have nearly twenty thousand songs each in their collections.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 22 2011 12:51 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

Glad you signed up again, dude. 20,000 songs sounds like a lot of bullshit, but I do love the sheer volume of music I get for my nowadays very, very thinly-stretched entertainment dollar. I listen to way more and spend way le$$. I'm also super geigh for year-end top 10 lists, and me & my friends like to do em every year. In the post-CD, post-iTunes, cloud generation, my top 10's are no longer just the 10 albums out of the 19 I bought that year that I liked the most. I love that I'm having to whittle down from a way larger pool of great stuff. I <3 you, Rdio.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 04 2012 09:47 PM Re: Rdio (formerly LaLa (formerly Buzzed))

I earned enough points on my credit card this year to cash them in at Best Buy for a Sonos system. It's a thing that attaches to your router and sends music wirelessly to a pretty good sounding loudspeaker that will work wherever you plug it in, syncs up all your Rdio, Pandora, Spotify, computer music files, dozens of streaming radio stations, etc., and can play them via software on your computer or by an app on your phone. Just set it up tonite, easy peasy and sounds pretty good. You folks with big homes can get a speaker or two for every room in the house (and have them play different shit in each location) or just move around the speaker you have as needed, but just having a means to hear streams at a better quality than that produced by my tiny computer speakers is super swell. Downside, required I sign up for the $10/month program vs the $5/month plan at Rdio but that will have some side benefits too. It's the future!