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WS Trivia

Fman99 Oct 29 2009 07:26 PM

Fox Sports just put up a graphic indicating that Joe Girardi is the 7th MLB player to play for a team and then manage that same team in the World Series. Naturally, they did not identify the other six. It occurs to me though, that this question has a very Metly connection. So, can you name all six?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2009 07:33 PM Re: WS Trivia

Valentine. Baker. Guillen. Hornsby. Others?

Kong76 Oct 29 2009 07:35 PM Re: WS Trivia Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2009 07:37 PM

Berra even though he only played a couple with the Mets?

metirish Oct 29 2009 07:36 PM Re: WS Trivia

Willie Randolph....oh wait....

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 07:39 PM Re: WS Trivia

Phil Garner - Houston & Ozzie Guillen - ChiSox ... in the same series no less

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2009 07:41 PM Re: WS Trivia

Got it-- Hargrove! Hargrove, right?

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 07:43 PM Re: WS Trivia

Billy Martin

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 07:44 PM Re: WS Trivia

Hargrove never played in a WS

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2009 07:46 PM Re: WS Trivia

I think I misunderstood the question. He meant, play for the team in a WS AND manage them in a WS, I was thinking play for the team, and then manage them in a WS. By the stricter standards, Hornsby and Martin are correct. The others are swing-and-misses.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 07:48 PM Re: WS Trivia

I didn't see the graphic but I'm assuming it's played for a team in the WS and then later managed that same team in a WS. Otherwise I suspect there'd be a lot more than just 7.

Kong76 Oct 29 2009 07:49 PM Re: WS Trivia

Yeah, I jumped the gun too.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 07:53 PM Re: WS Trivia Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2009 07:57 PM

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Fman99 Oct 29 2009 07:55 PM Re: WS Trivia

There's way more than six. Maybe I got the parameters wrong - it was only on the screen for a few seconds. But there's others that are coming up here and in my mind. 1. Ozzie Guillen 2. Phil Garner 3. Bobby Valentine 4. Yogi Berra 5. Billy Martin 6. Gil Hodges 7. Tommy Lasorda (though his cup o coffee was as a Brooklyn Dodger and not an LA Dodger) 8. Dusty Baker 9. Joe Girardi So that's more than 7 right there. Maybe the question was "Played IN THE WORLD SERIES for a team and then later managed it to the WS," which would rule out Guillen, Garner, Berra and Hodges, most of these guys in fact.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2009 07:58 PM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="Fman99":1d2sa14o] Maybe the question was "Played IN THE WORLD SERIES for a team and then later managed it to the WS," which would rule out Guillen, Garner, Berra and Hodges, most of these guys in fact.[/quote:1d2sa14o] Yogi's in. He managed the Yanks in the '64 Series they lost. (Cards?) So... Berra, Hornsby (Cards AND Cubs, apparently), Martin. We need 4 more.

Fman99 Oct 29 2009 08:01 PM Re: WS Trivia

So, if you're not counting guys who didn't play in a WS for the same team (like Berra and Hodges for the Mets, for example) and also rule out the player/managers, like Hornsby, then who's left? 1. Joe Girardi 2. Billy Martin 3. Yogi Berra (managed the '64 Yankees) 4. 5. 6. 7. Who else?

Fman99 Oct 29 2009 08:04 PM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1qurnegl][quote="Fman99":1qurnegl] Maybe the question was "Played IN THE WORLD SERIES for a team and then later managed it to the WS," which would rule out Guillen, Garner, Berra and Hodges, most of these guys in fact.[/quote:1qurnegl] Yogi's in. He managed the Yanks in the '64 Series they lost. (Cards?) So... Berra, Hornsby (Cards AND Cubs, apparently), Martin. We need 4 more.[/quote:1qurnegl] Hornsby was player/manager on both those squads. I don't know that he counts.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 08:08 PM Re: WS Trivia

Bruce Bochy - SDP '84 & '98

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2009 08:12 PM Re: WS Trivia

Red Schoendinst - StL Cards - '46 + '67 & '68

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2009 08:17 PM Re: WS Trivia

Charlie Grimm (Cubs player '29; player/manager '32, '35; manager '38, '45)

Edgy DC Oct 29 2009 08:18 PM Re: WS Trivia

Frank Chance did 'em both at the same time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2009 10:09 AM Re: WS Trivia

Still in search of two more, yes? 1. Joe Girardi 2. Billy Martin 3. Yogi Berra (managed the '64 Yankees) 4. Red Schoendienst 5. Charlie Grimm 6. 7.

Edgy DC Oct 30 2009 10:15 AM Re: WS Trivia

Frank Chance and Roger Hornsby don't count?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2009 10:23 AM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="Edgy DC":1ns64892]Frank Chance and Roger Hornsby don't count?[/quote:1ns64892] There's a bunch of player-managers who pulled the trick, apparently (par example: not sure if he got in a WS at-bat, but even McGraw played-managed for the 1905 Giants).

Frayed Knot Oct 30 2009 11:00 AM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1p843p6y]Still in search of two more, yes? 1. Joe Girardi 2. Billy Martin 3. Yogi Berra (managed the '64 Yankees) 4. Red Schoendienst 5. Charlie Grimm 6. 7.[/quote:1p843p6y] As seen on page one: Bruce Bochy - SDP '84 & '98

Edgy DC Oct 30 2009 11:14 AM Re: WS Trivia

Was Tommy LaSorda on the the post-season roster for the 1955 Dodgers?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2009 11:44 AM Re: WS Trivia

1. Joe Girardi 2. Billy Martin 3. Yogi Berra (managed the '64 Yankees) 4. Red Schoendienst 5. Charlie Grimm 6. Bruce Bochy 7. No Lasorda in the '55 postseason.

MFS62 Oct 30 2009 12:33 PM Re: WS Trivia

Lou Budreau? Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2009 12:46 PM Re: WS Trivia Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 30 2009 12:50 PM

[quote="MFS62":2gwgatxa]Lou Budreau? Later[/quote:2gwgatxa] Player/manager during his one postseason appearance ('48).

MFS62 Oct 30 2009 12:48 PM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":12kyf6nq][quote="MFS62":12kyf6nq]Lou Budreau? Later[/quote:12kyf6nq] Player/manager during his one postseason appearance ('48).[/quote:12kyf6nq] Coises. Foiled again. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2009 12:53 PM Re: WS Trivia

[quote="MFS62"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="MFS62"]Lou Budreau? Later

Player/manager during his one postseason appearance ('48).
Coises. Foiled again.


Later

Hell, I don't think the Blue Jays existed during his playing career.

OE: They had been extant for two years at the time of his retirement. He never played for 'em (nor did they make the WS in that time, natch).

And I JUST got it (and confirmed with B-R). Shall I reveal, or d'you guys want to keep poking?

MFS62 Oct 30 2009 08:28 PM Re: WS Trivia

For those of you confused by the Blue Jays comment, I originally had Cito Gaston in my post. Then I realized he had never played for the Jays and removed it from my post. But LWFS replied in the interim. Later

G-Fafif Oct 31 2009 05:40 AM Re: WS Trivia

Ralph Houk played in two WS as an MFY and managed them in three more.

Frayed Knot Oct 31 2009 09:20 AM Re: WS Trivia

Ralph Houk -- still living, just turned 90. Haven't seen or heard from him in years; I suspect that means either that he's been ill or maybe it's because he represents those Yanqui years that they don't like to talk about so the club never invites him anywhere.