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Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

MFS62 Nov 16 2009 07:29 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/alf ... w1F6rcjOwN He wants to do it as a player. I wouldn't mind him doing it as a coach. He always seemed to be able to to the right thing, at the right time, in the right way. Maybe he could make some of that rub off on some of the fundamentals-challenged members of the current team. Later

metirish Nov 16 2009 07:37 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

And I want to retire as a Met too.....no time for sentimentality here with this team , far more important stuff to get done.

HahnSolo Nov 16 2009 07:48 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

I loved Fonzie as a Met. But in general, I don't like these "come back for one day and retire" things. And that is what this would be, since he was shot as a player five years ago.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2009 07:51 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

This is about the third thread on this. I don't think it's about a one-day contract, nor do I think it's about a question of time. It's about guys on the fringes of baseball looking for a big-league spring training invite to get another crack. Baseball is full of them and there are certainly a share of them in the Mets camp every year. Yeah, he's probably finished, but spring invites are cheap so we'll see.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 16 2009 08:26 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Yeah, he clearly wants to play. He's not looking for a ceremonial retirement. Sure, invite him. Why not? Sometimes players to parlay these things into a return to productivity. (Didn't Fernando Tatis do the same?) If he plays his way onto the team, great, and if not, then the Mets did a favor for a good guy, a loyal alumnus, and a fan favorite. Who knows? Fonzie may turn out to be that three-decade Met that we've all been craving.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 16 2009 09:19 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

I went to a couple games the spring HoJo made the farewell lap. It was really nice because he got a standing ovation every time he came to bat. My hunch is that these guys want the chance to prove to themselves, but after a couple weeks they can see that it's not there any more and two weeks of love from spring crowds -- and there are crowds at S. Lucie -- is a nice thing, especially if they follow with some roving minor league hitting coach kind of thing for him.

Met Hunter Nov 16 2009 10:04 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Give him a shot. What's the big deal? And I disagree with the sentimentality. This team and it's fans need alot of that.

Rockin' Doc Nov 16 2009 10:59 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

I have no problem with giving him a spring training invitation. There's not much to lose by giving him an opportunity this spring,the Mets might get lucky and find a bat for the bench. If not, then they gave a former star a shot to show what he could do and they bid him farewell once more.

metirish Nov 16 2009 11:18 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

[quote="Met Hunter":2vjwleqj]Give him a shot. What's the big deal? And I disagree with the sentimentality. This team and it's fans need alot of that.[/quote:2vjwleqj] I'm a fan and I have no need for sentiment. Bring Fonzie to Spring Training but not because he was and is a great guy or because it would be great for fans down there to cheer him one last time. If you think he can bring something to the table then fine......

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 16 2009 11:37 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

[quote="metirish":1vnsya74][quote="Met Hunter":1vnsya74]Give him a shot. What's the big deal? And I disagree with the sentimentality. This team and it's fans need alot of that.[/quote:1vnsya74] I'm a fan and I have no need for sentiment. Bring Fonzie to Spring Training but not because he was and is a great guy or because it would be great for fans down there to cheer him one last time. If you think he can bring something to the table then fine......[/quote:1vnsya74] This'll sound terribly cynical, but I don't exactly trust this front office to do the right thing player-evaluation-wise. The least they could do, then-- since, as Edgy and others point out, spring invites are cheap-- is to "do the right thing" in this case.

seawolf17 Nov 16 2009 11:52 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

I would love for this to happen. Never will, though.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2009 11:54 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Mike Silva, meanwhile, is upset that the Mets aren't sentimental enough with Dwight Gooden. http://nybaseballdigest.com/

Benjamin Grimm Nov 16 2009 11:56 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Well, he doesn't have to be the Edgardo Alfonzo of 1999. He just has to be better than Alex Cora, or, more accurately, the best guy the Mets could get to replace Alex Cora. A much simpler task, but it may very well be beyond him. I do hope he gets the chance to find out.

G-Fafif Nov 16 2009 01:37 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

After 70-92, it's not like there's no room at the inn. I wouldn't pencil Fonzie in for the Opening Day roster (as much as I adore him) but I'd love to see him get a shot, as much for the ol' You Never Know as for sentiment's sake.

metirish Nov 16 2009 01:42 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

I wonder what Carolyn Kepcher would say on this.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2009 01:47 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

The key to writing successful management guides --- hold up a highly publicized success story and pretend that it was done according to some formula that can be used as a replicable model. Cash checks before reality kicks in.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 16 2009 01:54 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 16 2009 03:14 PM

[quote="Edgy DC"]Mike Silva, meanwhile, is upset that the Mets aren't sentimental enough with Dwight Gooden. http://nybaseballdigest.com/

Mike Silva writes a lot of things. Often-- but definitely not exclusively-- in complete, factually-correct sentences. More rarely is it that they comprise arguments which hold water.

About rumors his site promulgated regarding Crawford's possibly-tenuous contract situation with the Rays:

My point is that you, the reader, is accountable for actually comprehending this information. Don’t pull a Brooke Hundley on me here. I am not changing the way I run my site because individuals don’t properly decimate(sic?) the information I provide. You need to step it up – plain and simple.

NOTE: in the previous sentence, the "pussy" is understood.

Also, just because you don’t like hearing information doesn’t mean it’s untrue.

Like, say, that Billy Beane didn't write "Moneyball," and that modern stat analysis and traditional scouting are used to inform each other by every major league front office that is good at player evaluation?

Heck, maybe Crawford’s people read the report, call Andrew Friedman, and they strike a long term deal. Does that mean the rumor is false? Of course not.

Actually, yes. That's precisely what it means. Reporting that the team is not interested in signing him just before they sign him strongly implies that any information you got about their leanings was inaccurate.
Or... maybe I'm wrong here. Maybe they just don't realize how right you are. Maybe you're TRUER THAN FACT ITSELF. SHIT, MAN! WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, MAN!

I could be mad at my wife tonight and make up with her tomorrow, but not tell my buddy who I was drinking with that it happened. He passes it along to others who see me a week later when everything is ok. Get the drift?

No. Also, here, the "pally" is understood.

That’s why it’s called a rumor mill and not a news mill.

What about a pepper mill? Can I get some fresh pepper with my argumentative misinformation? Fresh pepper really makes the flavor in your self-righteous gibberish come alive!

metirish Nov 16 2009 02:01 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

LWFS drops the hammer on Silva.... Regarding his readers I think Mike wants his readers to "learn how to read like a yankee".

Met Hunter Nov 16 2009 04:49 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

[quote="metirish":3m60nx3z][quote="Met Hunter":3m60nx3z]Give him a shot. What's the big deal? And I disagree with the sentimentality. This team and it's fans need alot of that.[/quote:3m60nx3z] I'm a fan and I have no need for sentiment. Bring Fonzie to Spring Training but not because he was and is a great guy or because it would be great for fans down there to cheer him one last time. If you think he can bring something to the table then fine......[/quote:3m60nx3z] This was my intended point. Maybe he does have something to prove. Maybe not. Geez, they brought Marlon Anderson back last Spring. As far as the sentiment, all we do is bash the Mets for ignoring their past. Here's a guy, with obviously some gas left in the tank, that is pledging his allegiance to his former team, for maybe only to have a chance to retire during ST in a Met uni, and we wouldn't want that as even a minor story to follow next year? Let's see what's left. Sign him up and leave the Wily Mo Penas at home.

Frayed Knot Nov 16 2009 05:06 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Here's a guy, with obviously some gas left in the tank, Actually, I don't think there is any gas left in the tank. His last several 'comebacks' have shown a whole lotta nuthin'. But as long as it's only an invite and no job is handed out purely for sentimental reasons there's no harm done.

Frayed Knot Nov 16 2009 05:09 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

LWFS drops the hammer on Silva.... Which, I guess, makes it his Silva-hammer.

Ashie62 Nov 16 2009 05:11 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

[quote="metirish":1v9zbjgn]I wonder what Carolyn Kepcher would say on this.[/quote:1v9zbjgn] I'm wondering if Fonzie would bring Richie Cunningham & Potsie with him..

Valadius Nov 16 2009 09:34 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Potsie can play short.

Nymr83 Nov 16 2009 10:37 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

i want to see Alfonzo back in a Met uniform at the plate in a spring training game, i don't care if he hangs them up after 1 game, its not like spring ABs, particularly early on, don't get spent on a myriad of guys who will never make the team anyway. legitimate comeback attempt or last hurrah i don't care, i want fonzie!

seawolf17 Nov 17 2009 08:10 AM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

The guy did hit .329/.395/.489 with the Ducks in 2008 with 8 homers over 231 AB. Not awful at all. I know it's Atlantic League pitching, but he might be able to contribute something. Maybe even as a mentor/coach for guys like Reyes who need their heads screwed on a little tighter.

Ashie62 Nov 18 2009 04:44 PM Re: Fonzie Wants To Retire a Met

Could Alfonzo be our "super-utility" guy..I smell Major league minimum Fred!