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Names you didn't see

Ed Charles

1 votes

Donn Clendenon

7 votes

Dennis Cook

0 votes

Jay Horowitz

0 votes

Jane Jarvis

12 votes

Ray Knight

1 votes

Chris Majkowski

0 votes

Tom McKenna

0 votes

Lou Niss

0 votes

Al Weis

0 votes

Pat Zachry

0 votes

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 10:04 AM

Ten guys and one chick on the outside of the HoF voting, looking in, who it broke my heart leave out:

seawolf17 Nov 23 2009 10:07 AM Re: Names you didn't see

I'll take the Glider, but you need to get Jarvis and Clendenon into the argument, I think.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 10:09 AM Re: Names you didn't see

I have to thinnk that there's next year.

MFS62 Nov 23 2009 10:31 AM Re: Names you didn't see Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 23 2009 10:55 AM

Donn. If I were going to vote for a guy with repeated letters, he was a better choice than Ronn Reynolds. And its too early to tell about Jenrry Familia. Later

metsguyinmichigan Nov 23 2009 10:38 AM Re: Names you didn't see

I like more people on that list than I did on some of the others!

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 10:45 AM Re: Names you didn't see

So did I, to be honest.

soupcan Nov 23 2009 10:50 AM Re: Names you didn't see

I took DC over RK in the battle of WS MVPs

themetfairy Nov 23 2009 10:51 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Jane Jarvis

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2009 11:21 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Jane Jarvis for me, too. Her part in the creation of Meet the Mets, plus her many years of service as Shea's Queen of Melody clinches the deal. And of all the names in all these polls, there's only been one name that I didn't recognize: Chris Majkowski. I have no idea who that is.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 11:26 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Longtime producer/engineer on Met radio broadcasts, immortalized by Howie as "The Immortal Chris Majkowski."

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2009 11:31 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Thanks. I seldom hear the radio broadcasts anymore*, and if I ever knew Majkowski's name I've obviously forgotten it. *I have the Extra Innings package at home since 2006, and, somehow, I'm rarely in my car when the Mets are playing.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2009 11:35 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Any particular significance to how these groupings were aligned?

HahnSolo Nov 23 2009 11:36 AM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="Edgy DC":33zwlimu]Longtime producer/engineer on Met radio broadcasts, immortalized by Howie as "The Immortal Chris Majkowski."[/quote:33zwlimu] I think it was Gary. Been there since 92 or 93. He's missed only one game, for his sister's wedding. His mother told him he had to be there. That's from a story I think Neil Best did on him a couple years ago.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 11:43 AM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="G-Fafif":395oi6hy]Any particular significance to how these groupings were aligned?[/quote:395oi6hy] Not really. I had listed about 48 guys on my post from a few years back, mostly inspired by your blog, and I added another 16 to make 64, mostly looking for guys on the wins, games played, games pitched, or hits list. I did a quick and dirty seeding, and posted them in eight groups in a "snaking" technique. Group A had the seeds, #1, #16, #17, #32, #33, #48, #49, and #64. I knew somebody or more than somebody would get screwed by being in a rich group, but hopefully letting half the group advance will protect them from that. After posting the groups, a dozen new names popped into my mind that I was surprised I had forgotten. Here they are. I guess I'll let the winner on this wildcard list take a spot in round two from the lowest of the 32 folks advancing from the eight groups. Any of you bloggers, what a great time to tell your readers to register at the Crane Pool to be part of this historic selection process.

Ashie62 Nov 23 2009 12:38 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Jane Jarvis

G-Fafif Nov 23 2009 01:04 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Jane, though the World Series MVPs each belong via some avenue.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 23 2009 01:07 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Had the chance to meet her last year-- her home was one of the ones affected by the first of last year's large-scale construction-crane collapses. She's an exceedingly sweet, patient woman (if much more frail these days than when she was Hat Dancing for thousands at a time).

metirish Nov 23 2009 01:09 PM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2deygj8f]Had the chance to meet her last year-- her home was one of the ones affected by the first of last year's large-scale construction-crane collapses. She's an exceedingly sweet, patient woman (if much more frail these days than when she was Hat Dancing for thousands at a time).[/quote:2deygj8f] IIRC the NYT had an article on here around that time , seemed like a true lady.

Kong76 Nov 23 2009 01:10 PM Re: Names you didn't see

I took Jane, gotta vote for a woman who can work an organ.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2009 01:24 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Story probably told here before, but always worth repeating: Six years ago, JJ was playing a midday jazz concert at the church that hosts the senior center my wife directs. Natch I made a trip into midtown to listen in. As it was ending, Mrs. Fafif got on the microphone and told the assembled masses that in addition to being a great jazz musician, Ms. Jarvis spent many years as the organist at Shea Stadium. There was a whir of "oh, really?" in the crowd. Mrs. F requested our theme song. Gamely (though I had the sense she probably was fine being known as a great jazz musician), Jane played a few bars of "Meet the Mets" followed by a full-on "Mexican Hat Dance," with everybody clapping along. Damn that was great.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2009 01:29 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Interesting (in a way) that Willie Mays didn't make any of these lists, yet the Mets have granted him the even higher honor of semi-retiring his uniform number. I think they should put 24 back in circulation immediately. Don't reserve it for the Rickey Hendersons; give it to the next Kelvin Torve who comes along.

metirish Nov 23 2009 01:29 PM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="G-Fafif":oa1lzzs6]Story probably told here before, but always worth repeating: Six years ago, JJ was playing a midday jazz concert at the church that hosts the senior center my wife directs. Natch I made a trip into midtown to listen in. As it was ending, Mrs. Fafif got on the microphone and told the assembled masses that in addition to being a great jazz musician, Ms. Jarvis spent many years as the organist at Shea Stadium. There was a whir of "oh, really?" in the crowd. Mrs. F requested our theme song. Gamely (though I had the sense she probably was fine being known as a great jazz musician), Jane played a few bars of "Meet the Mets" followed by a full-on "Mexican Hat Dance," with everybody clapping along. Damn that was great.[/quote:oa1lzzs6] Great story, she must have been thrilled too.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2009 01:35 PM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":382hzath]Interesting (in a way) that Willie Mays didn't make any of these lists, yet the Mets have granted him the even higher honor of semi-retiring his uniform number. I think they should put 24 back in circulation immediately. Don't reserve it for the Rickey Hendersons; give it to the next Kelvin Torve who comes along.[/quote:382hzath] I didn't notice Willie was missing here, though I was thinking over the weekend that a nice touch would be some sort of National League Heritage Pathway of Honor, maybe line the walk from the Rotunda to the Museum with the names of those who Paved The Way for the Mets: Mays, Snider, Mathewson, so on. Subtle recognition of the New York N.L. DNA without bringing more charges of the Mets not focusing on the Mets. I've always maintained that Citi Field should become the home office of baseball in New York, everything that's not or has never been the MFYs. That would include Dodgers, Giants, Negro Leagues, scholastic, semi-pros. Every SABR meeting/event should take place there, at a deep discount. That sort of thing.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2009 01:41 PM Re: Names you didn't see

I like that idea. I have one of my own, unrelated to G-Fafif's, but regarding the Mets HOF. The Mets should do something to bring the HOF out into the ballpark, in addition to the museum that will be inside the building. I was thinking that they could add a display screen somewhere visible from the seats, that would, during the course of an entire game, display the name and photograph of a Mets Hall of Famer. I think this would, possibly, ease the outcry for retiring a lot of uniform numbers. So every time you go to Citi Field, there would be a featured Hall of Famer of the day. When you sit in your seat, you'd look and see that today it's Jerry Koosman. Or Mookie Wilson. Or Joan Payson. Sure, Mookie wouldn't be on the wall every day like 14 37 41 are, but they'd each get featured a bunch of times per season.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2009 02:02 PM Re: Names you didn't see

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":30ah7zmt]I like that idea. I have one of my own, unrelated to G-Fafif's, but regarding the Mets HOF. The Mets should do something to bring the HOF out into the ballpark, in addition to the museum that will be inside the building. I was thinking that they could add a display screen somewhere visible from the seats, that would, during the course of an entire game, display the name and photograph of a Mets Hall of Famer. I think this would, possibly, ease the outcry for retiring a lot of uniform numbers. So every time you go to Citi Field, there would be a featured Hall of Famer of the day. When you sit in your seat, you'd look and see that today it's Jerry Koosman. Or Mookie Wilson. Or Joan Payson. Sure, Mookie wouldn't be on the wall every day like 14 37 41 are, but they'd each get featured a bunch of times per season.[/quote:30ah7zmt] That would be beautiful. My one trip to the Oakland Coliseum featured something like that. The A of the Day was Reggie Jackson. Highlights included his 1973 World Series MVP performance. I applauded out of delight to see the Mets on a DiamondVision far from home.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 02:24 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Maybe, but I'd want any Met of the day to include mortals, as well as Olympians. Sorry not to include Willie on any of these lists. Next year, promise. I'm going for one final name here, though the Mets might well enshrine a few this year. Now I'm thinking that Jane Jarvis has a shot in this thing.

metirish Nov 23 2009 02:27 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Recent PR blunders will not help Jay Horowitz any.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2009 02:33 PM Re: Names you didn't see

Well, I'm the Jerkowitz that left an old lady and the greatest centerfielder ever out on the street, so I feel for Jay.

HahnSolo Nov 23 2009 03:19 PM Re: Names you didn't see

I would assume a big splash from the Mets at least the first year, with a number of inductees to make up for the 8?-year gap between inductions. Then they'll go back to forgetting it exists in 2011.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 08:10 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Thanks everybody for participating in this. I worried that you'd balk. We had up to 30 votes for a single candidate. Well done. Please offer some sporting applause and some exciting parting gifts from our sponsors to three guys who walked away without a single vote: Jeff Kent, George Foster, and Doug Flynn. They will not be back next year unless they return to the organization and add to their legacies somehow. I'm also listening (not tone deaf, me) to your "too soon" statements and thinking that maybe we should have a standard of not entering the discussion until 15 years (or 20, or 25 or whatever) after you've come into the fold, though I don't know if a minor league career should count in that case. Feel free to vote your preference in this regard and we can discuss whether to insitutionalize the standard. Kent, Foster, and Flynn will be replaced on the list in next year either with folks from this auxiiary list of Edgy oversights or newly emerging candidates. Until then, congratulate Ms. Jarvis, the wild card who bumps 32-seed Todd Hundley out of round two. Sorry, Todd.

TheOldMole Nov 24 2009 09:10 AM Re: Names you didn't see

I would have gone for Jane, but she's not a wild card. She was on one of the other lists, wasn't she? I remember voting for her. I went with Ray Knight, but would have liked a shot at Jim, the Enormous Batboy. And why can't we vote for Joe Pignatano's tomato patch?

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 09:15 AM Re: Names you didn't see

Jane, through my oversight, didn't make any of yesterday's lists. Her winning this last-chance poll put her on to one of today's lists.