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Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Gary Cohen

11 votes

David Cone

6 votes

Davey Johnson

33 votes

Jon Matlack

17 votes

Mike Piazza

34 votes

Ron Swoboda

7 votes

Bobby Valentine

22 votes

Bill Webb

2 votes

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 08:28 AM

Please pick four sheep, and banish four goats.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2009 08:31 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

This one too. I'm seeing radio buttons instead of check boxes.

TransMonk Nov 24 2009 08:31 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Only 1 selection available.

themetfairy Nov 24 2009 08:39 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Cohen, Johnson, Piazza and Valentine This is the first category where I've voted for four candidates.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2009 08:41 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Johnson, Matlack, Piazza, Valentine.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 08:45 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I've been favoring older guys, and had initially selected Matlack, but Cohen has been at it 20 years, and his legacy is certainly larger.

seawolf17 Nov 24 2009 08:58 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Gary, Matlack, Piazza, Swoboda.

TheOldMole Nov 24 2009 09:00 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

And a second vote for Ron Swoboda.

soupcan Nov 24 2009 09:04 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Johnson, Matlack, Piazza, Valentine.

dgwphotography Nov 24 2009 09:13 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

ok - I just can't continue to vote for four because I have to = it just waters down the results. Davey and Mike are the only deserving ones here.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 09:17 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I assure you that the results will be narrow. Eleven people voted for Craig Swan yesterday, but he still didn't advance. What's important to discuss here is the why as much as the who.

G-Fafif Nov 24 2009 09:22 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Tough call, but I had to ask Gary to wait another year in deference to Ron. I'm sure he'd understand. Davey, Mike and Bobby were easy.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 09:38 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I'd like to hear the case for Ron fleshed out a little before I pull the trigger on him. Is a vote for Swoboda a tacit vote for Endy Chavez? Why or why not?

RealityChuck Nov 24 2009 09:39 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Johnson, Piazza, Valentine, and, of course, Swoboda.

bmfc1 Nov 24 2009 09:49 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Instead of Webb, I voted for a picture of a woman in the stands, watching the game that we're supposed to be watching, with her hands clenched over her mouth.

G-Fafif Nov 24 2009 09:50 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

[quote="bmfc1":55dbkzzu]Instead of Webb, I voted for a picture of a woman in the stands, watching the game that we're supposed to be watching, with her hands clenched over her mouth.[/quote:55dbkzzu] HoF BoC!

Swan Swan H Nov 24 2009 11:50 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I'm with Grimm and Soup. Johnson, Matlack, Piazza, Bobby V.

metirish Nov 24 2009 12:06 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I googled Matlack Jonathan Trumpbour Matlack , what a middle name that is.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2009 12:07 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":objf7obr]Johnson, Matlack, Piazza, Valentine.[/quote:objf7obr] Johnson: Winningest manager in Mets history. Also managed more games than any Mets manager. Managed one of two World Championships. Only Mets manager ever to finish in first place twice. Helped set the tone (and the attitude) that made the 1986 Mets legendary. Matlack: Not one of the stronger candidate, but he stuck around long enough to be solidly in the second tier of Mets pitchers (after the first tier of Seaver, Koosman, Gooden) and a major contributor to the near-World Champion team of 1973. Also one of only four to win the Rookie of the Year. Piazza: Easy choice. Second all-time in homers, behind Strawberry. A huge factor in making the Mets relevant again, and the leading force behind those back-to-back wild cards. Valentine: One of only two Mets managers to reach the postseason more than once, and one of only four to reach the World Series. Smart, innovative, fun, and he got results. Also, one of only two men to manage more than 1,000 Mets games. (Although, in Bobby's case, he just barely reached that plateau.)

G-Fafif Nov 24 2009 12:14 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

I didn't vote for him in this round due to the strong competition (how did two deserving managers wind up in the same bracket?) but Matlack should eventually get the nod. Once he was established, which was pretty quickly, the pecking order wasn't so much Seaver, Koosman, Matlack as it was Seaver, Matlack, Koosman. There's a great Sport magazine piece published after the season ended in '77 that gave me the impression Jon wasn't particularly enamored of Tom, even in the wake of Tom's departure. I'd slot him in there on the Darling-Fernandez tier of Met starters, maybe an inch down given the shorter tenure, but he was explosive in his day.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 01:19 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Interestingly (and accidentally, I assure you), only white guys in the white group.

metirish Nov 24 2009 01:23 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Where's Howie Rose?

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 01:30 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Knocked out on the first ballot.

metirish Nov 24 2009 01:41 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Yet Cohen survives......

Edgy DC Nov 24 2009 01:47 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Indeed. Rose finished in sixth place in his first-ballot group with six votes. Cohen finished in third place in his, with sixteen.

Valadius Nov 24 2009 02:26 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Cohen, Johnson, Matlack, Piazza.

Rockin' Doc Nov 24 2009 05:37 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Piazza, Johnson, Valentine, and Matlack.

Kong76 Nov 24 2009 06:20 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Davey Matlack Piazza Valentine

PiggiesTomatoes Nov 26 2009 06:47 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Johnson, Swoboda, Piazza, Valentine

Ashie62 Nov 26 2009 09:33 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame White Group

Johnson,Swoboda,Piazza,Bobby V