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John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 07:30 AM

Mets select Carlos Monasterios, A/AA RHP from the Phillies.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 07:31 AM Re: Rule 5 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 10 2009 07:33 AM

Stats and stuff: [url]http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Carlos%20Monasterios&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=467856 KenDavidoff The #Phillies had just 33 on their roster, so that tells you what they thought of Monasterios. Says one official: "We'll take the 50 grand."

metirish Dec 10 2009 07:32 AM Re: Rule 5

Nice form....FU Phillies

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2009 07:38 AM Re: Rule 5

Seems unlikely that he'll stick on the big league roster for the whole season. I guess the Mets are hoping the Phillies won't buy him back when they (almost inevitably) get the chance.

MFS62 Dec 10 2009 07:47 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":15htjmrv]Seems unlikely that he'll stick on the big league roster for the whole season. I guess the Mets are hoping the Phillies won't buy him back when they (almost inevitably) get the chance.[/quote:15htjmrv] Are you kidding? The Phillies won't ask the Mets to pay them back more than was spent for the guy? Of course they will. And - anyone check out this guy's minor league transactions? He was part of a trade for Bobby Abreau and Cory Lidle. At least Omar gave the writers an angle for a future story. And - Did anyone else pick up in those stats a reason for drafting him? I couldn't. Later

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 08:01 AM Re: Rule 5

In the rule five draft, you're almost invariably trying to look beyond the stats. Was he grabbed in the major league or minor league round?

bmfc1 Dec 10 2009 08:03 AM Re: Rule 5

StevePopper: The Carlos Monasterios era is over in NY - #Mets trade Rule 5 pick to Dodgers for cash considerations. Maybe that ups the offer for Lackey

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2009 08:07 AM Re: Rule 5

Sheesh. I had just placed an order for my custom Carlos Monasterios Mets jersey!

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 08:09 AM Re: Rule 5

I hadn't even met his wife! Wayne Krivsky helps the Dodgers pull a Wayne Krivsky!

metirish Dec 10 2009 08:15 AM Re: Rule 5 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 10 2009 08:24 AM

Being kicked about the place like a piece of meat.....

MFS62 Dec 10 2009 08:23 AM Re: Rule 5

Was he "here" long enough for a "Memories of Carlos Monasterios" thread? Later

Frayed Knot Dec 10 2009 08:30 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="bmfc1"]StevePopper: The Carlos Monasterios era is over in NY - #Mets trade Rule 5 pick to Dodgers for cash considerations. Maybe that ups the offer for Lackey

Yeah, a couple of grand oughta tip the balance in a potential $100mil contract.



fwiw, BA commented about Monasterios that; "Righty has improved his sinkerball’s command in recent years, secondary stuff still comes and goes."




The Yanx trade last week of Brian Bruney to the Nats for a PTBNL (Nats talking about using him as a closer) - that PTBNL turned out to be for the #1 pick in the Rule 5 instead. Yanx use that pick to select Dodger OFer Jamie Hoffman - "a physical grinder with big league experience [who] could stick as extra outfielder"
Pirates used pick #2 to grab Rockin Doc's guy John Raynor from the Marlins. Could be worse, he almost was a Yanqui!!

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 08:36 AM Re: Rule 5

Wait, the Nats drafted the guy and returned him to the Yanks as the PtBNL, or the Nats traded the right to the pick? I realize it's all the same in the wash, but if rule five picks can be traded, it may be an interesting precedent toward potentially allowing draft picks to be traded.

Frayed Knot Dec 10 2009 08:39 AM Re: Rule 5

It's been described the whole time as the Nats [u:3hq0kmli]trading the pick[/u:3hq0kmli] - so I guess that's allowed in Rule 5 land since, unlike the amateur (Rule 4) draft, there's one set price for all picks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 08:41 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Frayed Knot"] Pirates used pick #2 to grab Rockin Doc's guy John Raynor from the Marlins. Could be worse, he almost was a Yanqui!!

Hey that's awesome, bet he stays!

batmagadanleadoff Dec 10 2009 08:42 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="MFS62":193pdxv1]Was he "here" long enough for a "Memories of Carlos Monasterios" thread? Later[/quote:193pdxv1] Yes he was. Does anyone remember when the Mets acquired and then traded Carlos Monasterios all in the same day, and MFS62 wondered whethere there would be a "Memories of Carlos Monasterios" thread? I do.

Frayed Knot Dec 10 2009 08:46 AM Re: Rule 5 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 10 2009 09:14 AM

Meanwhile, the Mets go wild in the AAA phase of the draft, choosing RHP John Lujan from the White Sox, 1B Marshall Hubbard from the Mariners, RHP Rolando Valdez from the Astros, and LHP Orlando Lara from the Padres And then in AA phase - RHP Johan Figuereo from the Nationals

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 08:50 AM Re: Rule 5

Step right up and greet the Buffs

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 08:52 AM Re: Rule 5

Awesome. Sorry, suckers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 10 2009 10:36 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Frayed Knot"] And then in AA phase - RHP Johan Figuereo from the Nationals

Now they're just trying to be funny.

Valadius Dec 10 2009 10:40 AM Re: Rule 5

I'm glad they used the minor league portions of the draft. They desperately needed to.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 10 2009 11:07 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Frayed Knot":36cviacm]It's been described the whole time as the Nats [u:36cviacm]trading the pick[/u:36cviacm] - so I guess that's allowed in Rule 5 land since, unlike the amateur (Rule 4) draft, there's one set price for all picks.[/quote:36cviacm] Nah. That's why Hoffman was traded as a PTBNL; the Nats made the pick (also the reason there was speculation the MFYs might have them pick the lefty Kroenke from their OWN system, so as to keep from losing him for another year-- he ended up going to 'Zona, I think).

metirish Dec 10 2009 11:10 AM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Frayed Knot":5nfo8nkc] The Yanx trade last week of Brian Bruney to the Nats for a PTBNL (Nats talking about using him as a closer) [/quote:5nfo8nkc] Looking forward to the Mets feasting on this guy......

Rockin' Doc Dec 10 2009 06:18 PM Re: Rule 5

[quote="Edgy DC":uvr6duvi]I hadn't even met his wife![/quote:uvr6duvi] Bet Tiger has.

Ashie62 Dec 10 2009 07:12 PM Re: Rule 5

[quote="metirish":1vf4vyaa]Being kicked about the place like a piece of meat.....[/quote:1vf4vyaa] Almost traded for himself