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Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

dgwphotography Nov 27 2009 01:13 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_ ... crash.html

A Boy Named Seo Nov 27 2009 01:49 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

And he's fine! OMG!! A Thanksgiving miracle!! The bumper on his Escalade is unfortunately still in serious condition.

dgwphotography Nov 27 2009 02:06 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="A Boy Named Seo":3li4xcrp]And he's fine! OMG!! A Thanksgiving miracle!! The bumper on his Escalade is unfortunately still in serious condition.[/quote:3li4xcrp] LOL - gotta love it - my subject line was a direct quote from the original headline at that Daily News link....

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2009 05:38 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Speculation now centers on a domestic dispute and that maybe the reports of wife Elin using a golf club to smash the car window happened before the crash not afterward.

Valadius Nov 28 2009 07:30 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Woods and his wife are "unavailable" to talk to the cops for the second day in a row. Something feels off.

metirish Nov 28 2009 07:39 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

A whole lot of time wasted on this, when I first happened upon it on CNN he was in serious condition.....half an hour later he was fine and the anchor was trying to sell up on the new breaking news of weather Woods would play in his own tournament coming up.

cooby Nov 29 2009 05:47 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Jesus, yes, let the poor guy have a wreck in peace

Kong76 Nov 29 2009 06:26 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Speculation now is that he's been putting on a fresh green. Couldn't keep his wood in the bag. Wifey was really teed off.

cooby Nov 29 2009 06:37 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

lol...

Kong76 Nov 29 2009 06:49 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

A facebook friend post: "My fav quote re: Tiger, "So I guess Tiger Woods got caught getting a little Curtis Strange"."

Frayed Knot Nov 29 2009 09:42 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="metirish":3ovpm41a]A whole lot of time wasted on this, when I first happened upon it on CNN he was in serious condition.....half an hour later he was fine and the anchor was trying to sell up on the new breaking news of weather Woods would play in his own tournament coming up.[/quote:3ovpm41a] It's a big deal, well, because of his fame obviously, but also because he's guarded his image so tightly in an attempt to keep it squeaky clean that any crack in the facade is bound to attract attention. Plus this story didn't add up from the very beginning. Conflicting tidbits like the one where it occurred at low-speed yet he was in and out of consciousness as a result; that it started by him 'backing out of his driveway' then winds up taking out a fire hydrant and a tree; and now his wife either chased him out of the house with a golf club or she used it McGyver-like to rescue him. And then there's the 2:30 in the morning part.

Edgy DC Nov 29 2009 01:49 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

If he won't talk, for Pete's sake, somebody put a mic in front of Fuzzy Zoeller.

MFS62 Nov 30 2009 09:39 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I can just imagine how it was covered on the Golf Channel: (In hushed tones) "She used a five iron. Good choice". Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 30 2009 09:45 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

This threatens to take the spotlight off the foot model and the doorman.

metirish Nov 30 2009 09:46 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":38p3m6yo]This threatens to take the spotlight off the foot model and the doorman.[/quote:38p3m6yo] Forced to flee town they were , she bought the tickets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 30 2009 09:57 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Ah yes, The Doorman-Atrix.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 30 2009 04:47 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="metirish"][quote="Benjamin Grimm"]This threatens to take the spotlight off the foot model and the doorman.

Forced to flee town they were , she bought the tickets. Of course she bought the tickets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 30 2009 06:58 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Sally Jenkins hits it out of the park. You want answers? How about a new golf shirt instead? By Sally Jenkins Tuesday, December 1, 2009 Recently I was involved in an incident that I don't wish to speak of, particularly not to pedestrian flatfoots who think they're entitled to see the inside of my house. This is a private matter, and just because it happened on a public street and I left shattered glass on the ground and a hint of scandal in the air doesn't give anyone with a badge the right to conduct a routine investigation. I have a personal security staff to deal with things like this, the nature of which I'm not saying, and I don't see what the law has to do with me anyway, since I live in a gated tax haven. How the police got past the guardhouse is something my people will be looking into. Nevertheless, I understand the relentless curiosity about me, given my sacrosanct greatness and all I do for the good of humanity, and so I have decided to release a statement, on the advice of my agent, media consultant, personal blogger, sponsor liaison and attorneys. But rather than give this statement to the authorities, who somehow think they have real authority over me, I have decided to post it on my Web site, where the little men with badges can also find news, biographical info, statistics, audio and video clips, photos, and signature merchandise such as $75 drop needle polo shirts and washable wool sweater vests, as well as framed art, naturally of me. Posting this statement is a grand concession, given my unique status, which let's face it amounts to almost a kind of separate state power. That's how different I am from the common people. I am really more like Cuba. Or the Vatican. My advisers tell me that for the sake of my public image I have to say something modestly remorseful about this embarrassing matter, but I am under no obligation to say anything of substance. The fact that I have pocketed $1 billion for being a public figure, in prize checks, appearance fees and commercial endorsements, does not mean anyone, especially the police and the media, can ask perfectly reasonable questions that I have no intention of ever answering, since such disclosures would apparently reveal I am not entirely who I appear to be. Let me pause to express my disapproval of the vicious rumor-mongers who continue to spread untruths, when no actual truth is being offered by me as an alternative. I don't see why people won't just accept my evasions at their word. Especially given my many good and charitable works, like keeping dangerous fish away from my yacht, "Privacy," and smiling for TV cameras, and studying the word "disingenuous" so I will know it when I see it or hear it. Cops -- they're just like photographers. People need to understand that I'm entitled to privacy at all times. Privacy is a commodity I own exclusively, and it's mine to give up only under the right circumstances, in exchange for seven-figure checks. These people who think I'd give it up for free must be crazy. Of course, we're not talking about the same police officers who provide security to keep those hounding autograph-seekers away. Or the photographers who spread images of me as a family man with my newborns and dogs or document my latest charity event for the world. Those folks are just doing their jobs ¿ jobs in which they essentially report to me. Here is my statement: "I'm almost perfect. I only made one small mistake, ever. I will certainly make sure nothing like it happens again." Among the questions I will not be addressing, when I next appear in public, after my face heals: Make sure what never happens again? Why would someone need to smash the two back windows of an SUV with a golf club to get me out of the front seat? Did the club break? And most importantly, did Stevie keep everyone quiet during the backswing? Would forensics detect any dental work on the clubface? Can anything really "courageous" happen at a place named Isleworth? (And by the way hasn't anyone read the real estate brochure? What happens in Isleworth stays in Isleworth.) How can anyone knock themselves unconscious in a slow-moving Cadillac Escalade? What sort of business does an American nightclub hostess have in Melbourne, Australia? Where would anybody be going at 2:30 a.m. after Thanksgiving? Perhaps to a Black Friday sale, the 4 a.m. special at Wal-Mart on big screen TVs, perfect to hand out to underprivileged children? Is there a Wal-Mart at Isleworth? As I say, don't look to me for the replies to these inquiries, or any others, either. You want answers to questions? Read Andre Agassi's autobiography.

Centerfield Dec 01 2009 10:04 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

This is interesting. Do police routinely investigate when they suspect domestic violence where the man is the victim?

Valadius Dec 01 2009 10:08 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Is it possible he's being blackmailed or extorted or something?

metirish Dec 01 2009 10:15 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Centerfield":16tufnu4]This is interesting. Do police routinely investigate when they suspect domestic violence where the man is the victim?[/quote:16tufnu4] You may have hit the nail on the head ...... http://www.slate.com/id/2236957/

metirish Dec 01 2009 12:37 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Found this online at the Times of London Top 10 Tiger Woods jokes on the web One: Apparently, the only person who can beat Tiger Woods with a golf club is his wife Two: What's the difference between a car and a golf ball? Tiger can drive a ball 400 yards Three: Tiger Woods was injured in a car accident as he pulled out of his driveway early Friday morning. It was Woods' shortest drive since an errant tee shot at the US Open. Four: What was Tiger Woods doing out at 2.30 in the morning? He'd gone clubbing Five: Tiger Woods crashed into a fire hydrant and a tree. He couldn’t decide between a wood and an iron Six: Perhaps Tiger should be using a driver? Seven: This is the first time Tiger’s ever failed to drive 300 yards Eight: Apparently, Tiger admitted this crash was the closest shave he’s ever had. So Gillette has dropped his contract. Nine: Tiger Woods wasn't seriously injured in the crash. He's still below par though Ten: Tiger Woods is so rich that he owns lots of expensive cars. Now he has a hole in one.

themetfairy Dec 01 2009 12:50 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Centerfield":361iw7uz]This is interesting. Do police routinely investigate when they suspect domestic violence where the man is the victim?[/quote:361iw7uz] In theory, it shouldn't matter whether the domestic violence victim is a man or a woman.

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2009 12:55 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

* It's also not the first time Tiger's driven into a tree ... or a water hazard * I heard Elin used a rescue club to get him out [ba-dum-ching]

Swan Swan H Dec 01 2009 01:08 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

It's the most trouble he's had with a Caddy since he fired Fluff Cowan.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 01 2009 01:28 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="themetfairy":33qgkq6n][quote="Centerfield":33qgkq6n]This is interesting. Do police routinely investigate when they suspect domestic violence where the man is the victim?[/quote:33qgkq6n] In theory, it shouldn't matter whether the domestic violence victim is a man or a woman.[/quote:33qgkq6n] It shouldn't, but it does. Practically speaking, it's rare that female-initiated physical abuse is of the same (domineering, clear pattern of romance->control->abuse->apology) cloth.

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2009 01:49 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Wouldn't he also have to, you know, actually press charges in order for anything to come of it? -- and that's going to be tough to do when he's denying that anything happened at all.

Edgy DC Dec 01 2009 01:50 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Should that matter in the case of an arrest? Shouldn't an arrest be a response to the incident at hand and not have to be reliant on the broader pattern? Regarding Frayed Knot --- as the article reports, the victim doesn't have to file a complaint in order for an arrest to be made in Florida. An an arrest in itself would be something coming of it, as it would be a chink in some mighty valuable armor.

metirish Dec 01 2009 02:04 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

He's to be issued with a citation for reckless driving , a possible fine of $160+ and four points on his license , no criminal charges.

Edgy DC Dec 01 2009 02:43 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I'm Tiger Fucking Woods. I use more than $160 to wipe my ass.

soupcan Dec 02 2009 08:32 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Re-enactment here!

metirish Dec 02 2009 08:33 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

With women crawling out of the woodwork tiger has released another statement on his site I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves. I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone. Although I am a well-known person and have made my career as a professional athlete, I have been dismayed to realize the full extent of what tabloid scrutiny really means. For the last week, my family and I have been hounded to expose intimate details of our personal lives. The stories in particular that physical violence played any role in the car accident were utterly false and malicious. Elin has always done more to support our family and shown more grace than anyone could possibly expect. But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions. Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult. I will strive to be a better person and the husband and father that my family deserves. For all of those who have supported me over the years, I offer my profound apology.

metirish Dec 02 2009 08:35 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="soupcan"]Re-enactment here!

Funny....that was an actual news report from China?

soupcan Dec 02 2009 08:37 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Of course! Howard Stern just played a message that Tiger left on a woman's cell urging her to change her voicemail message by removing her name and replacing it with just the phone number because his wife was going through his address book and calling all of his numbers. There was a definite sense of urgency in his voice.

metirish Dec 02 2009 08:38 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Here's the message http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/ ... ff-your-p/

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 08:47 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

He's sleeping with Johnny Grubb?

Centerfield Dec 02 2009 08:55 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I heard the voicemail. Hilarious. How much do I wish this were happening to Jeter instead.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 09:09 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Derek Jeter's virtue, to the extent that you can call it one, is choosing to remain a bachelor as long as he intended to act like a bachelor.

soupcan Dec 02 2009 09:20 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":3vc3d7gi]Derek Jeter's virtue, to the extent that you can call it one, is choosing to remain a bachelor as long as he intended to act like a bachelor.[/quote:3vc3d7gi] Yep. Gotta agree with that. I always thought that Jeter had that part of it knocked.

Vic Sage Dec 02 2009 09:54 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

...But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions. Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult... Sorry, Tiger, but you just don't get it. If you just played golf, i'd be on board. But when you made the conscious decision to turn yourself into a marketing commodity, selling your persona to the highest bidder, you also sold any claim to privacy. You have made 10x more from marketing your persona than you ever did from hitting a golf ball. In fact, you've been called on the carpet by more than one colleague, and by activists, for your failure to use your persona for public benefit (like fighting racism), just so you could keep yourself "content neutral" as it were, and devoid of any controversy or poliitical view, just so you could maintain your merchandising value. Like it or not, you've turned your persona into a commodity, and so its news when that commodity is damaged in some way. What goes around comes around, Woodsie.

Centerfield Dec 02 2009 10:17 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I'm not sure that it's that clear-cut. By capitalizing on his persona, as a golfer, has he forfeited all rights to privacy? Or is there a line where even public figures are entitled to keep things to themselves? And if there is a line, where is it? For instance, I think we can all agree that if it became public that Tiger cheats on his taxes, that culpable conduct would undermine his integrity, a characteristic he clearly sells. So that would be fair game. But if his child were to fall ill, we would all agree that the subject would be off-limits, even to a guy as heavily sold as Tiger. I don't know where to put his infidelity...which mixes culpability with the privacy concerns of his family, innocent parties to the conduct but clearly beneficiaries of the revenue his public persona generates. I mean, certainly Tiger, who is at fault, has no right to ask for privacy, but can he ask for it for the benefit of his family? I don't know the answer. I just know it's very interesting. And the voicemail could not be any funnier. Can you picture Phil the next time these two are paired up? "Hey Tiger, don't mind me, I'm just changing the outgoing message on my voicemail..."

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 10:47 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Well, I don't think it's about his right to privacy. So far as I know, nobody --- Howard Stern included --- has been pointing telescopic lenses into his lving room or hacking his e-mail account. He's asking that we not make untoward, ungracious, or unsavory --- but perfectly legal --- inquiries into his life which he assures us is perfectly boring. He may object, but these are still inquiries and not transgressions that are vexing him. And yeah, I'm with Vic. If he wants to tell me to drop tens of thousands of dollars on a GM SUV, I'm going to ask, "Who is this character suggesting I should do that?" Regarding Centerfield's questions. He got into an accident on a public street. The public has a right (and a duty, in fact) to inquire. Regarding infidelity, if he wants it to remain private he should talk to his fucking girlfriend who outed him. Oh, wait, he tried to do that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 02 2009 11:18 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/tiger-woo ... ee-grubbs/ ... after which, Ms. Nordegren pressed every buzzer on Ms. Grubbs' apartment building intercom, telling them that they had "a whore living in 2R."

Centerfield Dec 02 2009 11:22 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Oh I agree about the accident. I'm just up in the air on the infidelity issue since that affects his family too. Sure, everyone can ask what they want, but is it fair for Tiger to say "None of your business."? Like I said, cheating on taxes, steroids, etc...no. Sick child, yes. Infidelity, not sure...but gun to my head, probably no.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2009 11:23 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

That reminds me of a clip that David Letterman used to play. It was from a TV movie where Cybil Shepard played Martha Stewart. It shows Cybil (as Martha) shouting at a young woman: "Hey slut! I'm going to write your mother a letter and tell her you're a whore!"

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 11:29 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Centerfield":2eajnart]Sure, everyone can ask what they want, but is it fair for Tiger to say "None of your business."?[/quote:2eajnart] Yeah, he can, but he has to be prepared for that to effect his Q-Rating, and he shouldn't act like a victim when it does. He's made mounds (and mounds) of money by convincing people they know him and can trust him.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2009 11:31 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I'd like to see Cleon Jones reach out to Tiger.

themetfairy Dec 02 2009 11:33 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Vic Sage"] ...But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions. Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult... Sorry, Tiger, but you just don't get it. If you just played golf, i'd be on board. But when you made the conscious decision to turn yourself into a marketing commodity, selling your persona to the highest bidder, you also sold any claim to privacy. You have made 10x more from marketing your persona than you ever did from hitting a golf ball. In fact, you've been called on the carpet by more than one colleague, and by activists, for your failure to use your persona for public benefit (like fighting racism), just so you could keep yourself "content neutral" as it were, and devoid of any controversy or poliitical view, just so you could maintain your merchandising value. Like it or not, you've turned your persona into a commodity, and so its news when that commodity is damaged in some way. What goes around comes around, Woodsie.

I tend to agree with Vic. Tiger has made a fortune out of marketing his squeaky clean persona; in that process, he sold out his right to privacy on what would normally be private matters. If you go around selling pictures of your house and pictures of your baby to the highest bidders, it's disingenuous to suddenly claim to be a private person.

metirish Dec 02 2009 11:36 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Finding God or at the least a good Minister can't be far off.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2009 11:40 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I'm sure he's already heard from both Barbara Walters and Oprah Winfrey.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 12:01 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Centerfield Dec 02 2009 02:01 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":2latc0ky][quote="Centerfield":2latc0ky]Sure, everyone can ask what they want, but is it fair for Tiger to say "None of your business."?[/quote:2latc0ky] Yeah, he can, but he has to be prepared for that to effect his Q-Rating, and he shouldn't act like a victim when it does. He's made mounds (and mounds) of money by convincing people they know him and can trust him.[/quote:2latc0ky] What I'm saying is there are issues where he should be able to blow off questions without being hurt in the eyes of the public. I don't think infidelity is one of them, but there are issues. He shouldn't act like a victim ever. Unless something crazy were to happen like his wife beat him up or something.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 02:07 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Sure, and medical privacy is something that is protected by Congress, if not the Constitution. Frankly, I'm not particularly concerned with the state of his family, considering mine is getting more insane every day. But the minute Grubby played that tape on the air, his alleged infidelity was no longer something people were digging for, but something that was voluntarily revealed by a a principal. Sorry, guy. His beef is with her. And with himself for using women and expecting them to continue to work in his best interests.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2009 02:50 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

i don't personally see how tiger woods' infidelity should throw into question his ability to recommend to me a good quasi-luxury vehicle (which apparently he does not drive, or at least has the presence of mind not to crash into trees and fire hydrants), or a fine timepiece, or a nice razor. i suppose if i think he's a lying scum in one aspect of his life, i could think that he's a lying scum in other areas of his life. but if my coworker were discovered to be cheating on his wife, i would still most likely trust his opinion as an engineer as to whether or not a given bridge will stand, or even his recommendation as to what motor oil i should use in my car. i might not hang out with him, or take his advice on any marital/woman issues, but at the same time it would not be cause to dismiss any of his other opinions or qualities. i think we're fooling ourselves a) if we actually trust those who are paid to endorse products they claim in advertisements to believe wholeheartedly in and use that as a primary justification for purchasing such a product, and b) if we think that we're really all that interested in finding out if there's dirt on tiger because we just bought a nice new razor blade and want to know if we were actually snookered into it. did any of us really believe tiger woods had been driving a buick for the past ten years? i mean, buicks are getting better, and the new regal is pretty damned nice, but c'mon...

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 02:55 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

You're co-worker is making his advice based on his relevant training, experience, expertise, etc. not based on his public image, which is the only thing that qualifies Woods. i think we're fooling ourselves a) if we actually trust those who are paid to endorse products they claim in advertisements to believe wholeheartedly in and use that as a primary justification for purchasing such a product, and b) if we think that we're really all that interested in finding out if there's dirt on tiger because we just bought a nice new razor blade and want to know if we were actually snookered into it. Sure we are, but there're suckers born every minute. If celebrity endorsements didn't work, I'm sure Madison Avenue would've figured that out by now. Endorsements play on some very subtle psychological impulses. I'm sure plenty of people buy X product instead of Y and have no idea that they've factored in which celebrity supports which product. Let me ask... have you ever suggested a movie and had the missus reject it because she thought of some yucky gossip about the star, crinkled up her nose and said, "I don't like her anymore"?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 02 2009 03:00 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="metirish"]Finding God or at the least a good Minister can't be far off.

Wouldn't-a been hanging around with whores* so much, if Jesus were his caddy. *At least not the reality-TV kind.

Centerfield Dec 02 2009 03:17 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":2z1757gr] Let me ask... have you ever suggested a movie and had the missus reject it because she thought of some yucky gossip about the star, crinkled up her nose and said, "I don't like her anymore"?[/quote:2z1757gr] Stop trying to play it off on Cha. We know it's you that rejects movies based on your Perez Hilton subscription.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 02 2009 06:34 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

There are no privacy issues here. Tiger Woods was involved in an automobile accident, operating his automobile with a license issued by the government -- driving is regulated by the government. Therefore, law enforcement has the right to investigate the car accident, not to mention the damage to public property that Tiger caused. It makes no difference that no third-person was harmed. And if Tiger made false statements to the authorities about his car accident in order to conceal what would otherwise be private and personal matters, then those private matters become fair game.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2009 07:21 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":livdwmjv]Let me ask... have you ever suggested a movie and had the missus reject it because she thought of some yucky gossip about the star, crinkled up her nose and said, "I don't like her anymore"?[/quote:livdwmjv] no. but we have put people on our no watch list after really really crummy movies.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2009 07:36 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

so, the mindlessness of the masses puts the mob-media in the right, then? i don't think that i can agree with that.

themetfairy Dec 02 2009 07:43 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

It's not that the mob media is in the right as much as that Tiger put himself in a position where he's not an innocent victim. There's no shortage of objectionable behavior in this situation.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2009 07:56 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Nobody's in the right. But I'm not sure exactly what has been done to the guy by the masses. He was humiliated by his girlfriend. That's between him and her.

metirish Dec 03 2009 06:36 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

This is gold from Parnevik. Jesper Parnevik says sorry to Elin Nordegren: Should never have introduced you to Tiger Woods Jesper Parnevik hit Tiger Woods where it hurts yesterday with the strongest condemnation yet from one of his peers. Parnevik, the Swedish golfer who introduced Woods to his then-nanny, Elin Nordegren, wished Wednesday he could take it all back. "I really feel sorry for Elin since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him," Parnevik told the Golf Channel from PGA Tour Qualifying School in West Palm Beach. "We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her." Parnevik added that next time Nordegren should use "a driver rather than a 3-iron. " As more of Woods' dalliances became public, the lothario of the links issued a statement on his Web site yesterday apologizing for unspecified "transgressions" and asking that his privacy be respected. It's a private thing of course," Parnevik said. "But when you are the guy he is, the world's best athlete, you should think more before you do stuff ... and maybe not 'Just do it,' like Nike says." Nordegren began working as an au pair for Parnevik and his wife, Mia, who live in Woods' Isleworth development, in 2001. He considers her a little sister. In a 2002 interview, Mia Parnevik explained that Woods had asked for a year to be introduced to Nordegren, who was seeing someone else at the time. "She had no interest in Tiger and he was OK with that," Mia Parnevik said. "There was a big line of single golfers wanting to meet her. They were gaga over her." Meanwhile, at the Chevron World Challenge outside Los Angeles, the Tiger Woods Foundation-sponsored tournament that Woods pulled out of this week, most all of the Tiger talk was off the record. You get the feeling, however, that some players were snickering at Woods' expense. "I've learnt a few new Web sites this week," Padraig Harrington said. Greg McLaughlin, president and CEO of the Tiger Woods Foundation, said there had not been an "overwhelming" number of refund requests after Woods withdrew. "There has not been any negative fallout that we've received with respect to him not being able to play," McLaughlin said.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 03 2009 07:06 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Tiger is a complete dickhead. His wife is about 11 million times hotter than any of the skanks he's alleged to have hooked up with, plus she's a Nanny, and Swedish. What the fuck else does he want?

Frayed Knot Dec 03 2009 07:19 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Greg McLaughlin, president and CEO of the Tiger Woods Foundation, said there had not been an "overwhelming" number of refund requests after Woods withdrew. How many thousand are there in a "not overwhelming"? "There has not been any negative fallout that we've received with respect to him not being able to play," McLaughlin said. Tell that to NBC who paid to televise this event. Ratings only take like a 50% hit when Tiger's not playing and when it's an unofficial event that was created by him for the benefit of his own foundation his lack of presence becomes an even more important factor.

Edgy DC Dec 03 2009 07:25 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Lothario of the Links Do tabloid reporters get bonuses for coming up with that stuff?

Vic Sage Dec 03 2009 08:38 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

how about "Putz of Putts"?

soupcan Dec 03 2009 08:53 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

'Casanova of the Clubhouse' 'Sandtrap Seducer' 'Chip Shot Cheater' 'Liar of the Lies'

Kong76 Dec 07 2009 05:07 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[bigpurple:n4eimucc]7[/bigpurple:n4eimucc]

Edgy DC Dec 07 2009 05:34 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Big Purple isn't working for me, as the top of the text gets cut off. [quote="Kong76":esaaubtm][bigpurple:esaaubtm]7[/bigpurple:esaaubtm][/quote:esaaubtm]

metirish Dec 07 2009 06:35 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

The Lion Cheetah.... I read thia morning that Oprah has called him to offer advice....and a place for him to tell his story.....

soupcan Dec 07 2009 07:21 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

themetfairy Dec 07 2009 05:13 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Apparently he's now up to 10 mistresses. Oy!

Kong76 Dec 07 2009 05:48 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

He needs a better name than Tiger. Wilt the Stilt, Magic Johnson, Tiger Woods is kinda lame ...

Frayed Knot Dec 07 2009 06:05 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="themetfairy":k385pc73]Apparently he's now up to 10 mistresses. Oy![/quote:k385pc73] Or, as golfers would put it, he's starting on the back nine. Meanwhile, one of the football games over the weekend featured a blond chick carrying a giant (mock-up) golf club chasing a guy in a tiger suit.

cooby Dec 07 2009 06:18 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Wow, 10. He still only had 4 at our 1 p.m. production meeting

Frayed Knot Dec 07 2009 06:38 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Been a busy afternoon.

themetfairy Dec 07 2009 06:41 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Frayed Knot":13xtnzxx][quote="themetfairy":13xtnzxx]Apparently he's now up to 10 mistresses. Oy![/quote:13xtnzxx] Or, as golfers would put it, he's starting on the back nine. [/quote:13xtnzxx] BOC

Kong76 Dec 07 2009 06:46 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

What BOC? I see Blue Oyster Cult when I see BOC.

themetfairy Dec 07 2009 06:53 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

BOC = Bullet of Cool

Edgy DC Dec 07 2009 06:55 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Except the Post beat him to it.

Kong76 Dec 07 2009 06:59 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I'm delirious.

Methead Dec 07 2009 07:05 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I bet he wishes he was playing snowman rules... then we'd only know about the first 8.

Fman99 Dec 07 2009 07:43 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Like finding new bodies at a crime scene. As this story develops, I look forward to reading about all 18 of Tiger's holes.

cooby Dec 07 2009 09:19 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

At this rate, it could be in the morning editions

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 08 2009 01:24 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Considering his taste in paramours, at this point he likely has more Eskimo brothers than Alaska.

Centerfield Dec 08 2009 07:16 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Frayed Knot":2gbgdxml]Been a busy afternoon.[/quote:2gbgdxml] He must be in Latvia.

themetfairy Dec 08 2009 07:37 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Centerfield":2e7oysas][quote="Frayed Knot":2e7oysas]Been a busy afternoon.[/quote:2e7oysas] He must be in Latvia.[/quote:2e7oysas] Damn - that always makes me laugh

cooby Dec 08 2009 08:37 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Fman99":di3y2hyc]Like finding new bodies at a crime scene. As this story develops, I look forward to reading about all 18 of Tiger's holes.[/quote:di3y2hyc] Fman, your wish is their command. Now they're sending ambulances to his house in the middle of the night to take out women. He looks so boring. It's always the quiet ones.

Frayed Knot Dec 08 2009 08:48 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Without even actively searching for new info in this whole mess, I've heard the following just since waking up this morning: - a 2AM this morning (there's that time again) emergency phone call brought an EMS unit to Tiger's place to transport a woman to the hospital. Later reports have her since released - identity still unknown. - that Elin (Mrs. Tiger) has moved out of their house - and that Tiger himself was taken to the hospital the day after Thanksgiving (that would be the day after the car crash) due to some sort of pill over-use, including Vicodin.

Kong76 Dec 08 2009 08:55 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Fman: I look forward to reading about all 18 of Tiger's holes <<< Especially the back nine.

metirish Dec 08 2009 09:42 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Hospital confirms it was Elin Nordegren's mom that was brought to the hospital this morning.

Frayed Knot Dec 08 2009 11:04 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

The bottom line remains that, until about a week and a half ago*, it was real good to be Tiger Woods: first athlete to top a billion dollars in earnings; ridiculously hot wife; well on pace to top the most majors ever record that he's followed since he was about 5 years old; so far above his current peers that it's not even a discussion and at an age where most are just starting to reach their peak. Since then ... not so much. * I suppose one could trace the beginning of the slope to summer 2008 when the serious knee surgery killed off the rest of his year after limping to a US Open win. Since then it's been a lot of rehab followed by a major-less year (although a real good one by any other standard) and now this (these) mess(es).

Edgy DC Dec 08 2009 11:17 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I imagine, all other things being equal, that a major-less year for Tiger Woods is looking mighty fine right now.

cooby Dec 08 2009 07:41 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Hey, what was mom in law doing there anyway?

Frayed Knot Dec 09 2009 04:40 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

So since PGA Tour caddies generally get 10% of their guys winnings I guess this means that Tiger's guy Stevie is owed at least one bimbo so far. Or maybe he was just content to stand near the bed ready to grab the camera phones out of the chicks' hands if they tried to snap an "in action" picture.

Rockin' Doc Dec 09 2009 05:43 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="cooby":3rnf688g]Hey, what was mom in law doing there anyway?[/quote:3rnf688g] If she's smart, helping her daughter pack.

metirish Dec 09 2009 06:04 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

There's talk of a sex tape now and a kid somewhere....Gatorade dumped him

Frayed Knot Dec 09 2009 07:00 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Apparently the Gatorade dumping (and not the football coach kind) was in the works prior to the car crash/bimbo eruption thing and says more about the shape Gatorade is in at the moment than it says about Tiger. Buick cut ties with him last year for similar reasons. Golf season starts 4 weeks from tomorrow although Tiger usually blows off the first few weeks anyway and would normally play maybe 3 of the 8 weeks the tour spends on the west coast before hitting Florida around March 1. Be interesting to see when he resurfaces, it's not like he can stay underground forever.

Fman99 Dec 09 2009 08:08 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="cooby":119e8glq]Hey, what was mom in law doing there anyway?[/quote:119e8glq] I think she was getting in line for a crack at her son-in-law's big rig. Wants a shot at the one iron, heh heh.

Fman99 Dec 09 2009 08:10 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Frayed Knot":7q68tloa]So since PGA Tour caddies generally get 10% of their guys winnings I guess this means that Tiger's guy Stevie is owed at least one bimbo so far.[/quote:7q68tloa] Plus 1/10th of another one. You know Steve's getting the ugly Perkins waitress.

MFS62 Dec 10 2009 09:46 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

There must be millions of husbands around the world who are giving him props for doing something that sends his mother-in-law to the hospital. Later

soupcan Dec 10 2009 12:10 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 04:57 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

So, of the 100% of married jocks playing professionally in America: Which percentage is right now saying "Man, what a disaster --- this underscores why I don't screw around"? Which percentage is right now saying "Man, what a disaster --- I vow to never screw around again"? Which percentage is right now saying "Man, what a disaster --- I've got to be more careful about my screwing around"?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 06:11 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

3, 2, 95

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2009 06:14 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I think there's a fourth category: "Man, Tiger was stupid. I know that can't happen to me!"

cooby Dec 10 2009 06:19 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Fman99":iwu4awwl][quote="cooby":iwu4awwl]Hey, what was mom in law doing there anyway?[/quote:iwu4awwl] I think she was getting in line for a crack at her son-in-law's big rig. Wants a shot at the one iron, heh heh.[/quote:iwu4awwl] That's what I was thinking too, though I didn't think it in quite so hilarious words.

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 07:43 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3qh5wc3j]3, 2, 95[/quote:3qh5wc3j] See, I think there's a big chunk in group two. It's just that, you know, most of them will suddenly forget their vows two or three opportunities down the road.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 11 2009 06:41 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Now I understand why so many men are obsessed with golf.

Frayed Knot Dec 12 2009 06:10 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Tiger announces he's taking "an indefinite leave" from tour golf in order to straighten his shit out (not quite how he phrased it). Not quite sure what that means since the season doesn't pick up for another month yet and he'll usually only play a few times during the January-February stretch anyway. Obviously the Masters in April is the next main focus although you don't think he'd want to go into that cold. Years ago when Tiger had already established himself as the best young golfer since Jack many people, including Jack himself, opined that the one thing to watch would be to see whether his game was affected if/when he got married and had kids. I don't think that this turn of events is what people had in mind.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 12 2009 11:16 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

New York Post headline: Tiger Pulls Out. Well, yeah, that figured.

MFS62 Dec 14 2009 08:33 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Accenture is the first major sponsor to cut ties with Tiger. They are the world's largest management consulting firm. Here's a part of what they do, from Wikepedia: Accenture Technology Solutions is a subsidiary of Accenture, providing technology solutions to the client. The solutions work is mainly offshored to low-wage developing countries like India, The Philippines and Romania - Accenture India Delivery Centre, Accenture Delivery Centers in the Philippines and Accenture Bucharest Delivery Center. In other words, a company in the business of forcing Americans out of jobs and moving those jobs overseas has the chutzpa to say they don't want to be associated with a guy who sleeps around? Puh-leeeze. Who is doing a worse thing? Later

Edgy DC Dec 14 2009 03:08 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Not that I'm not doing everything in my power to not keep up with this story, but as I'm certain you'd like to know the angle the ladies in my office are taking, they tend to be pissed because he has no wimmens of color linked to this mess.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 14 2009 03:24 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

As KC columnist Jason Whitlock puts it: "Getting His 'Becky' On."

Centerfield Dec 15 2009 08:01 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I don't know what is dumber. These douchebag journalists that implored him to take time off from the Tour, or Tiger for following their advice. I have never heard of a professional athlete (or anyone else for that matter) take time off to deal with marital problems.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 15 2009 08:03 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Today's Snooze suggests he may have other issues too: One of his doctors was busted with a shitload of HgH and other steroid stuff.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2009 08:12 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Centerfield":23lr6o95]I don't know what is dumber. These douchebag journalists that implored him to take time off from the Tour, or Tiger for following their advice. I have never heard of a professional athlete (or anyone else for that matter) take time off to deal with marital problems.[/quote:23lr6o95] There are few sports quite like golf, where you frequently make quite a bit more money off your image than off your earnings. I guess NASCAR and track and other individual sports. I imagine that's relevant.

metirish Dec 15 2009 08:15 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnn-nP6sag

themetfairy Dec 15 2009 08:45 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="metirish":2ywtwvwh]Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnn-nP6sag[/quote:2ywtwvwh] OMG - hysterical!

Centerfield Dec 15 2009 12:19 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":1yjtjago][quote="Centerfield":1yjtjago]I don't know what is dumber. These douchebag journalists that implored him to take time off from the Tour, or Tiger for following their advice. I have never heard of a professional athlete (or anyone else for that matter) take time off to deal with marital problems.[/quote:1yjtjago] There are few sports quite like golf, where you frequently make quite a bit more money off your image than off your earnings. I guess NASCAR and track and other individual sports. I imagine that's relevant.[/quote:1yjtjago] That's a good point. Here I am thinking he makes his money from being a professional golfer.

TransMonk Dec 16 2009 08:58 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Woods wins AP athlete of the decade despite his seious condition. http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?s ... &type=lgns

Edgy DC Dec 16 2009 09:01 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Now that would be a cool thing to give Haile Gabreselassie.

MFS62 Dec 16 2009 09:25 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="TransMonk":15x3jxfa]Woods wins AP athlete of the decade despite his seious condition. http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?s ... &type=lgns[/quote:15x3jxfa] BBBBBBUUUTTTTT, he isn't an athlete. At least, not on the golf course. He plays golf. As the saying goes, he don't run, he don't jump and he don't sweat (at least it doesn't show through in those Nike brand golf shirts he pushes). Later

metirish Dec 16 2009 09:28 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Woods as it turns out was very noughties .

Edgy DC Dec 17 2009 08:24 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Jocks in domestic disputes, not funny. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=artslot

Farmer Ted Dec 21 2009 06:00 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Conan last night... "Elin appears to be headed toward filing for divorce. Apparently she thinks she has a better chance of having sex with Tiger as a single woman."

metirish Dec 22 2009 12:51 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Just heard this form a San Fran sports talking head(Brian Murphy) who does a weekly stint on Irish radio. Tiger was on the front page of the NY Post for 19 days straight , second only to the 22 days of front pages for 9/11 the Post had.

Frayed Knot Jan 20 2010 08:53 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Tiger has reportedly been spending his time in Mississippi at a sex-addiction clinic. What is funny was watching CBS & ESPN over this past weekend starting to pimp their Masters coverage (hey, it's only 4 months away!!) and doing so without showing even one clip of Tiger. This is after years of making the coming attractions of tourneys that he attends to be like a movie starring Tiger plus a cast of others.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 20 2010 09:35 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I bet a sex addiction clinic is a great place to pick up women.

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2010 02:46 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

So Tiger emerges from seclusion tomorrow at an invite only, no questions allowed appearance to take place at a PGA HQ facility on a Friday while this week's tour stop is in full swing - probably not coincidently a tourney which is sponsored by a firm that just dropped Tiger. Among the selected "media" reported to be there is the guy who runs Tiger's web-site. Way to step up and take responsibility Ace. Oh yeah, and the fact that the PGA brass agreed to host this enabling sham and divert attention and media away from the rest of the players and an in-progress match is a farce also.

metirish Feb 18 2010 04:55 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

What a dick , really. His fellow pros are not thrilled with the timing..... http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/golf/2 ... 58604.html Peers hold mixed views of Woods' timing Golf: Ernie Els has criticised Tiger Woods for choosing tomorrow to break his silence and face the world. Woods will make a statement at PGA Tour headquarters in Florida while the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship - the biggest event of the golfing year so far - is being held in Arizona. “It’s selfish,” said Els “You can write that. I feel sorry for the sponsor. Mondays are a good day to make statements, not Friday. This takes a lot away from the golf tournament.” The sponsor in question, of course, is one of the first companies to dump the world number one after all the revelations about his private life that emerged following his November 27th car crash. Another player in Tucson, not wanting to be named, felt the same way as Els. “That was the first thing we all thought of, like he is sticking it to Accenture - and that the PGA Tour is part of it all,” he said, drawing reference to the fact that Woods has been given use of the Tour’s headquarters to say what he wants to say without taking any questions. “It’s like Tim (Finchem, the tour commissioner) has lost his head. He wants Tiger back in the worst way and so he lets this go on. “I mean, we all want to see Tiger back, but this doesn’t look good.” Sergio Garcia agreed that “the timing of it is not the best, but he has to do what’s best for him, I guess.” And Rory McIlroy said in the press conference following his first round victory over Kevin Na: “He’s got to come out at some point. I suppose he might want to get something back against the sponsor that dropped him.” Woods’ management agent Mark Steinberg has pointed out that when the star addresses a small gathering of “friends, colleagues and close associates”, plus a few reporters and one television camera, the golf has not actually started at Dove Mountain. He said he called one of Accenture’s executives to give a “heads up” and made sure the statement would come “well outside the tournament’s TV window. Accenture couldn’t have been more supportive”. On Els’ remark Steinberg responded: “It’s always good to get your information right before commenting. “It’s strictly a timing issue. There is a very good reason (for Friday) and not do it next week.” But when asked what the reason was he would not say. Match Play defending champion Geoff Ogilvy stated: “Maybe we can put the whole tournament on hold for 10 minutes to watch. “The only thing I will say about it is that I would like to see him answer some questions. “If he answers some questions then that would make it real because he wouldn’t be working off a script. But it’s a start - and he’s got to start somewhere.” A prominent manager, another not wishing to be identified, believes Woods “hasn’t accomplished anything if he doesn’t take questions. “This isn’t coming clean. I don’t know what it accomplishes. Not answering questions is a big slap in the face to golf. “I would have had him face the music at the earliest possible moment. The earlier you do it, the less speculation there is. “He left it open to all kinds of speculation, which starts to be facts in people’s minds.” American David Toms added: “We’re all going to be interested in what Tiger has to say. It’s a huge topic in the locker room, around the lunch tables, everywhere we go. “We all want to know as players what he’s going to do. We hope that he’s okay and that he comes back soon.” British Open champion Stewart Cink took a more sympathetic view than Els. “I think it’s coincidental that he would pick the Friday of Accenture to announce,” he commented. “It’s probably got more to do with his schedule than anything else. It will be good to see Tiger’s face again and see that he’s actually out there somewhere. “It’s encouraging that he’s coming back to at least be seen by the public and the rest of us, too, I consider myself the public when we’re talking about this matter. So it’s good that we’re going to see Tiger Woods.” England’s Paul Casey said: “Anything that starts the healing process is a good thing.” Finchem faced reporters in Tucson and on the question of the timing said he did not think Woods was getting back at Accenture. But he added: “You’d have to ask the Woods camp about the schedule. We were asked to make the facility available and to help with the logistics. That’s what we’re doing. “I think it’s going to be a story in and of itself. A lot of people are going to be watching golf this week to see what the world of golf says about it, my guess is, so that will be a good thing.” As well as “discussing” the past - that was the word used in the statement announcing Woods will make a statement - Woods will also address the future. That could, of course, mean his personal future in terms of his marriage, but the watching world will also be expecting to hear a date for his return to golf. He has not played since winning the Australian Masters in November – just before he drove into a fire hydrant and tree outside his Orlando home in the early hours.

Valadius Feb 19 2010 06:04 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Apparently the explanation is that the sex clinic let him out for a break this week. Whatever.

metirish Feb 19 2010 06:32 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

The Golf Writer’s Association of America are boycotting this sham.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 19 2010 07:33 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

But Michael Jordan will be there. This thing's a little-person acrobat troupe away from being a Vegas marquee act.

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 07:36 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]But Michael Jordan will be there.

But will Juanita?

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2010 07:37 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Valadius"]Apparently the explanation is that the sex clinic let him out for a break this week. Whatever.

I thought the deal was that he is now out permanently - or at least until the next time he visits a pancake house. Anyway, that he's making a public statement isn't the issue here; he was going to have to make one sooner or later and presumably this will include some timetable of when he's returning to competition. It's the details of the whole thing that stinks, from the timing of it (on a Friday as his ex-sponsor's tourney is going on) to the fact that the PGA is complicit in the whole process of stepping on those same golfers and sponsors by hosting it in their HQ. But mainly it's the phony invite-only/no questions allowed format that will most likely consist of pr-agent prepared statements that could have just as easily been handled by a web-site release, particularly if, as many suspect, he'll just cite this day upon his eventual return to claim that he's "already addressed the issues" surrounding his accident, disappearance, infidelities, marriage, rehab, fitness, mindset, etc. therefore he's done talking about it. Meanwhile, that will send the swollen media gathering out to nudge all the other golfers about the topic which is not only not of their making but also traps them since most have neither Tiger's protective posse around them to cocoon themselves away nor his arrogance to tell the press to fuck off.

The Golf Writer’s Association of America are boycotting this sham.

Good for them. Apparently the original "rules" were to allow three GWAA members in to act as 'pool' reporters. But since there'll be no give it hardly matters if there's one or a hundred so they turned that generous offer down. At that point TW/PGA upped their offer to six - as if twice as many neutered stooges would somehow be better. Nice to see them hold their ground.

metirish Feb 19 2010 07:46 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Oh wow, not surprising but the TV skeds today will be going wall to wall with this, CBS sent Couric down there. Not sure if Brian Williams is staying in Vancouver but NBC are sure to have some big guns there too.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2010 08:09 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="metirish":3losujmj] ... CBS sent Couric down there. [/quote:3losujmj] Good God, what the fuck for?!? I mean I'm all for Katie leaving town whenever possible but what does she expect to accomplish there?

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 08:18 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Win ratings, win emmys, win laughter. Great apologies. Mets rank high! Hopefully we'll get one of those loopy animations.

Centerfield Feb 19 2010 08:21 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

This is just out of control. I feel like Tiger needs a reality check. It's like he schedules this event for Friday completely oblivious of how his peers will take to the timing. He needs to understand that rules apply to him too, and that the world doesn't revolve around him. Of course, this point is hard to drive home when CBS sends Katie fucking Couric to cover this event like it's the Iran Hostage Crisis.

metirish Feb 19 2010 08:59 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Get this , from KPSP Local 2 News Services ....I'm guessing it's a local station. Waiting For Tiger Journalists from around the United States and the world have descended on the small town of Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida in anticipation of superstar golfer Tiger Woods' public statement Friday. CBS News will have complete coverage around 8:00 a.m. (11:00 ET) on KPSP Local 2. Katie Couric will anchor the special report, which is expected to run approximately 10 minutes. Woods, whose stunning fall from grace late last year captivated the sports world, is set to make a public apology and speak about his playing future when he addresses a small gathering of reporters at the headquarters of the U.S. PGA Tour in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida, at 8:00 a.m. (11:00 ET) But the estimated 300 other journalists will only have access to his live statement which will be showing at the Sawgrass Marriott Convention Center-- located approximately 3 blocks away from where Woods will be speaking. The world No. 1 has been in hiding since admitting in December he cheated on his wife -- his private life having unraveled after a bizarre minor car accident in the middle of the night outside his Florida home the previous month. This will be the 34-year-old American's first public appearance since the car crash. Woods, the most marketable figure in sports, took an indefinite break from the game in a bid to repair his marriage, and speculation has heightened in recent weeks about the timetable for his likely return to competition. Snow Beckman, a Ponte Vedra Beach resident, said she's never seen so much media attention in the sleepy town. "I think he's famous, it's okay but he's a human being, I mean let it be, it's his personal life is his personal life, all these years if he want nobody to know there's a reason. Just because of this drama," She said, referring to the television crews camped out in the area. Frank Fairington, an avid golfer from Atlanta, Georgia has been visiting Ponte Vedra Beach frequently. He says he's never seen such a media circus before. "Well, it's you can tell there are all the tv people inside, all the restaurants are full, you don't normally see this this time year," Fairington joked. Friday's statement is a tightly controlled event with security checkpoints surrounding the area. Woods, a 14-time major champion, would not answer questions. The meeting will, however, be televised. Woods has been widely advised by his peers and public relations experts to make a public apology before returning to competition, many of them suggesting he should go even further by appearing in a television interview.

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 09:12 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Hi, I'm Tiger Woods. This is my penis. He's been bad. In recent weeks, I have installed a lock on my cock and will only let him out under supervision. Any questions? Go fuck yourself. Catch you on the links, suckers.

metirish Feb 19 2010 09:24 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

What a joke..... http://www.cnn.com/ He looks like shit , he seems to have aged 30 years

MFS62 Feb 19 2010 09:27 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="Edgy DC":14iul9j7] Catch you on the links, suckers. [/quote:14iul9j7] That's basically what Lawrence Taylor said to reporters when they asked him when he was going into (mandatory) rehab after his third bust for crack. IIRC, he said "My therapy is golf. I'll see you out on the links". IMO, Woods' speech was a lot more than that. It was well written and well presented. The speech itself will win back many fans he had lost through his actions. If he can live up to the words, more fans will follow. Barry Bonds and Pete Rose should ask him for his speech writer. Later

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 10:00 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

[quote="MFS62":e4e94tq9]IMO, Woods' speech was a lot more than that. It was well written and well presented.[/quote:e4e94tq9] Not when he quotes his wife and then immediately after gets all haughty in saying how what is said between them will remain private.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2010 10:24 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

- Spoke for 10-15 minutes or so. - Essentially admitted to everything while staying away from the gory details - Took all the blame on himself, absolved wife Elin of any stories about her taking a 9-iron to either his car's grill or to his grill. - Is working on his personal life with wife, via therapy, and through his Buddhist teachings (take that Britt Hume!!) - Admonished the papparazzi for stalking his wife and kids and publishing the name of his 3 y/o's school (yeah, that'll work) - Is headed back to therapy - Will return to golf but has no idea (or isn't saying) when ... "could be this year" Basically it was nothing that couldn't have been handled by press release or web-site posting. I guess the idea was to show everyone that he still exists and didn't have either huge welts on his head or plastic surgery scars. His mom was there but I'm not sure who else. Any press that actually went to the site essentially wasted their company's money as it was in a small room where I'm sure he went from limo to room to limo via some underground passageway. I think someone strolling through downtown DC would have a better chance of bumping into Barack & Michelle than someone with a media pass in northern Florida would of meeting up with Tiger. This was one of those deals where a TV station could pull a Cokie Roberts, as in the time when ABC dressed her up in a winter coat and had her report in front of a U.S. Capitol backdrop even though she was in the studio all along.

Valadius Feb 19 2010 04:33 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Michael Jordan was not there.

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 04:57 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I was pretty embarassed for the guy. Getting choked up over his sins of entitlement on one hand and lecuturing us on what he's entitled to on the other suggests he still doesn't really understand. This story didn't break because people were spending months pointing telephoto lenses at his windows. It broke because he left a painfully obvious trail of crumbs, which most media outlets chose to ignore --- granting him all the indulgence he could demand --- until the National Enquirer finally broke free from the pack. And the other outlets let the Enquirer have their dirty little story to themselves, until he smashed his car on a street pulling away from his house, in a wreck he still hasn't explained, and has jerked the police around about, which he apparently can, because he's got 14 major championships. You want to take the fifth, go ahead, that's your right. Don't treat folks with snorting contempt for asking, though.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2010 05:24 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

I didn't hear him blaming the photogs for why the story broke, just about the behavior of those following his wife and kids since it broke. I'm going to cut him some slack on that one. What struck me as I listened to him speak was the fact that, for all his fame, we've rarely actually heard him speak in anything other than short sound bites and scripted commercials. So while some thought he looked different today, to me he just sounded so different as his "on stage" chipper voice/personality wasn't there.

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 05:35 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

He didn't blame photographers --- I thought I clearly presented that as the sort of absurd scenario that would allow him to justifiably claim persecution --- but he's blaming the media for continuing to pursue this story, holding the excesses of the worst against them all to portray himself as the victim and the noble defender of his family. The truth is that he's long been indulged by the greater part of the media. (Is anyone seriously arguing that his wife and children should be harassed?) Do any of you know or care where his kids go to school? What we know (that he cheats), we know because his girlfriends stopped being loyal to him and sang out. And there were so damn many that it couldn't be ignored. Or, as John Feinstein writes, the arrogance and entitlement were not exactly absent.

Valadius Feb 19 2010 05:37 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

What I do agree with him on is that photographers should not be following his daughter to nursery school. Children are off-limits.

Edgy DC Feb 19 2010 05:40 PM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Sure, but, try to find somebody to take the pro-child-stalking argument. That's a deliberate attempt by him to reframe what is actually at issue and going on.

metirish Mar 16 2010 09:46 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Christmas comes early for CBS as Woods will play in the Masters at Augusta National.

Ashie62 Mar 16 2010 10:20 AM Re: Tiger Woods In Serious condition after Car Accident

Returning to golf..viewers I hope Tigers wins and takes a bow