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Frayed Knot Dec 04 2009 11:31 AM

--- *A* *B* *C* *D* *E* *F* *G* *H* 1 South Africa Argentina England Germany Netherlands Italy Brazil Spain 2 Mexico Nigeria United States Australia Denmark Paraguay North Korea Switzerland 3 Uruguay South Korea Algeria Serbia Japan New Zealand Cote d’Ivoire Honduras 4 France Greece Slovenia Ghana Cameroon Slovakia Portugal Chile

Farmer Ted Dec 04 2009 11:46 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Bloody England will go down!

metirish Dec 04 2009 11:53 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Nice box FK. No real " group of death" is there, I suppose Group 1 looks like it might be....England will be chuffed with that draw...Group G looks like a cracker

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2009 12:07 PM Re: World Cup Draw

WTF does chuffed mean

metirish Dec 04 2009 12:09 PM Re: World Cup Draw Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 04 2009 12:10 PM

Provisional match schedule All Times GMT GROUP A Match 1, June 11 1500: South Africa v Mexico (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 2, June 11 1930: Uruguay v France (Cape Town) Match 17, June 16 1930: South Africa v Uruguay (Pretoria) Match 18, June 17 1230: France v Mexico (Polokwane) Match 33, June 22 1500: Mexico v Uruguay (Rustenburg) Match 34, June 22 1500: France v South Africa (Bloemfontein) GROUP B Match 3, June 12 1230: Argentina v Nigeria (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 4, June 12 1500: South Korea v Greece (Port Elizabeth) Match 19, June 17 1500: Greece v Nigeria (Bloemfontein) Match 20, June 17 1930: Argentina v South Korea (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 35, June 22 1930: Nigeria v South Korea (Durban) Match 36, June 22 1930: Greece v Argentina (Polokwane) GROUP C Match 5, June 12 1930: England v USA (Rustenburg) Match 6, June 13 1230: Algeria v Slovenia (Polokwane) Match 22, June 18 1500: Slovenia v USA (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 23, June 18 1930: England v Algeria (Cape Town) Match 37, June 23 1500: Slovenia v England (Port Elizabeth) Match 38, June 23 1500: USA v Algeria (Pretoria) GROUP D Match 7, June 13 1500: Germany v Australia (Durban) Match 8, June 13 1930: Serbia v Ghana (Pretoria) Match 21, June 18 1230: Germany v Serbia (Port Elizabeth) Match 24, June 19 1230: Ghana v Australia (Rustenburg) Match 39, June 23 1930: Ghana v Germany (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 40, June 23 1930: Australia v Serbia (Nelspruit) GROUP E Match 9, June 14 1230: Holland v Denmark (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 10, June 14 1500: Japan v Cameroon (Bloemfontein) Match 25, June 19 1500: Holland v Japan (Durban) Match 26, June 19 1930: Cameroon v Denmark (Pretoria) Match 43, June 24 1930: Denmark v Japan (Rustenburg) Match 44, June 24 1930: Cameroon v Holland (Cape Town) GROUP F Match 11, June 14 1930: Italy v Paraguay (Cape Town) Match 12, June 15 1230: New Zealand v Slovakia (Rustenburg) Match 27, June 20 1230: Slovakia v Paraguay (Bloemfontein) Match 28, June 20 1500: Italy v New Zealand (Nelspruit) Match 41, June 24 1500: Slovakia v Italy (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 42, June 24 1500: Paraguay v New Zealand (Polokwane) GROUP G Match 13, June 15 1500: Ivory Coast v Portugal (Port Elizabeth) Match 14, June 15 1930: Brazil v North Korea (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 29, June 20 1930: Brazil v Ivory Coast (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 30, June 21 1230: Portugal v North Korea (Cape Town) Match 45, June 25 1500: Portugal v Brazil (Durban) Match 46, June 25 1500: North Korea v Ivory Coast (Nelspruit) GROUP H Match 15, June 16 1230: Honduras v Chile (Nelspruit) Match 16, June 16 1500: Spain v Switzerland (Durban) Match 31, June 21 1500: Chile v Switzerland (Port Elizabeth) Match 32, June 21 1930: Spain v Honduras (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 47, June 25 1930: Chile v Spain (Pretoria) Match 48, June 25 1930: Switzerland v Honduras (Bloemfontein) LAST 16 Match 49, June 26 1500: Winner Group A v Runner-up Group B (Port Elizabeth) Match 50, June 26 1930: Winner Group C v Runner-up Group D (Rustenburg) Match 51, June 27 1500: Winner Group D v Runner-up Group C (Bloemfontein) Match 52, June 27 1930: Winner Group B v Runner-up Group A (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 53, June 28 1500: Winner Group E v Runner-up Group F (Durban) Match 54, June 28 1930: Winner Group G v Runner-up Group H (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) Match 55, June 29 1500: Winner Group F v Runner-up Group E (Pretoria) Match 56, June 29 1930: Winner Group H v Runner-up Group G (Cape Town) QUARTER-FINALS Match 57, July 2 1500: Winner of Match 53 v Winner of Match 54 (Port Elizabeth) Match 58, July 2 1930: Winner of Match 49 v Winner of Match 50 (Soccer City, Johannesburg) Match 59, July 3 1500: Winner of Match 52 v Winner of Match 51 (Cape Town) Match 60, July 3 1930: Winner of Match 55 v Winner of Winner of Match 56 (Ellis Park, Johannesburg) SEMI-FINALS Match 61, July 6 1930: Winner Match 58 v Winner Match 57 (Cape Town) Match 62, July 7 1930: Winner Match 59 v Winner Match 60 (Durban) THIRD-PLACE PLAY-OFF Match 63, July 10 1930: Loser Match 61 v Loser Match 62 (Port Elizabeth) FINAL Match 64, July 11 1930: Winner Match 61 v Winner Match 62 (Soccer City, Johannesburg)

metirish Dec 04 2009 12:09 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1fa3y5wm]WTF does chuffed mean[/quote:1fa3y5wm] It what the Brits say when they are happy about something.....I don't say it but was just taking the piss.....believe me they are happy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2009 12:14 PM Re: World Cup Draw

That's what I thought. I was taking a little piss myself.

Frayed Knot Dec 04 2009 12:14 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Not that I know much about this stuff - but I figure it's a tough draw for Cote d'Ivoire in Group G and welcome back to the World Cup North Korea. At least the N.K. team members will get fed while they're traveling - which isn't necessarily the case at home. Plus the Portugese and Brazilians can yell at each other during group play and be understood. Same with Group H - where three countries speak the same language, except for the Swiss who speak three languages but none of them Spanish I guess Mexico gets the easiest "top" squad in S.A. but maybe the toughest "other" qualifier in France U.S. and England lead off against each other. Bring your fife and drums.

metirish Dec 04 2009 12:26 PM Re: World Cup Draw

USA has nothing to fear here either, under Capello England are better, more organized but are still suspect at the back....Rio Ferdinand is having a terrible season and is currently out with a long term nagging injury....John Terry is overrated .......USA USA USA... I think both teams will go through but the problem is the runner-up would likely face Germany and the winner of group D.......

Frayed Knot Dec 04 2009 02:08 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Former colonies facing their former colonizers: U.S. v England Chile v Spain Brazil v Portugal

metirish Dec 04 2009 02:18 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Frayed Knot":wpb36qse]Former colonies facing their former colonizers: U.S. v England Chile v Spain Brazil v Portugal[/quote:wpb36qse] Good catch , should add to the tension .

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 04 2009 02:40 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Frayed Knot":rhji60it]Former colonies facing their former colonizers: U.S. v England Chile v Spain Brazil v Portugal[/quote:rhji60it] The part of me that cares less if the US gets through was kinda hoping France got tossed into Group C. France-Algeria might have been a bit incendiary. And I'd go "G" as the closest thing to a Group of Death (3/4 of it, anyway), with Group B trickier than it looks. It's a bit tougher to have loaded groups with Euro qualifying so wacky this year (with teams like Slovenia and Slovakia edging out stronger squads like Russia, Croatia and Ukraine and traditional powers like Ireland and the Czechs).

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2010 03:52 PM Re: World Cup Draw

British star Michael Owen to miss the 2010 WC with a hamstring injury that will require surgery (yes, that happens to other people beside NY Mets). How big a deal is this for the English squad? (and by extension their U.S. opponents)

metirish Mar 05 2010 04:49 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Not a big deal FK, it would have been a huge deal in Euros 2000/04 and 2002/06 World Cups. The truth is that Owen would have struggled to make the squad this WC and him being out probably saves Capello the hassle of not picking him. Owen is nothing more than a bench player for Man United, although in most other teams he would be a starter, Ferguson likes to use him as an "impact sub", not what he envisioned when he signed there, his pace which is what help separate him and make him a special player is not there anymore. Plus the type of game he played in his prime is not what is played nowadays. When teams played a 4-4-2 the big man up front would win the ball and Owen would feed off that , he was deadly inside the box. These days many teams play a 4-5-1 where the lone front player is a bull like Wayne Rooney who can do it all. I doubt Owen would have made the squad .

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2010 05:38 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Gotcha. Saw the news on a crawl earlier and it happened to be one of the names from the English football that I recognized.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 05 2010 05:58 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="metirish"]Not a big deal FK, it would have been a huge deal in Euros 2000/04 and 2002/06 World Cups. The truth is that Owen would have struggled to make the squad this WC and him being out probably saves Capello the hassle of not picking him. Owen is nothing more than a bench player for Man United, although in most other teams he would be a starter, Ferguson likes to use him as an "impact sub", not what he envisioned when he signed there, his pace which is what help separate him and make him a special player is not there anymore. Plus the type of game he played in his prime is not what is played nowadays. When teams played a 4-4-2 the big man up front would win the ball and Owen would feed off that , he was deadly inside the box. These days many teams play a 4-5-1 where the lone front player is a bull like Wayne Rooney who can do it all. I doubt Owen would have made the squad .

That backline's looking like a concern, though, innit?

Nymr83 Mar 05 2010 07:01 PM Re: World Cup Draw

"E" looks like a joke to me, those countries have soccer teams?

metirish Mar 05 2010 07:12 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="metirish"]Not a big deal FK, it would have been a huge deal in Euros 2000/04 and 2002/06 World Cups. The truth is that Owen would have struggled to make the squad this WC and him being out probably saves Capello the hassle of not picking him. Owen is nothing more than a bench player for Man United, although in most other teams he would be a starter, Ferguson likes to use him as an "impact sub", not what he envisioned when he signed there, his pace which is what help separate him and make him a special player is not there anymore. Plus the type of game he played in his prime is not what is played nowadays. When teams played a 4-4-2 the big man up front would win the ball and Owen would feed off that , he was deadly inside the box. These days many teams play a 4-5-1 where the lone front player is a bull like Wayne Rooney who can do it all. I doubt Owen would have made the squad .

That backline's looking like a concern, though, innit?


It's suspect right now, they have no left back, Ferdinand has gotten old real quick and Terry problems or.n ot has been mostly not that good this season. Goalie David James is near 40......listen I root for them to lose so if they go 0 and 3 and then out great.

metirish Mar 05 2010 07:16 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Nymr83":st9ryczb]"E" looks like a joke to me, those countries have soccer teams?[/quote:st9ryczb] Well , the Netherlands is a bonafide soccer power...perhaps not what they used to be but they can be great. Denmark has had some great players and were Euro Champions in 1992....but forget that.....read this brilliant account of the great mid-eighties team. Plus they had without doubt the best soccer jerseys ever. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... mark-1980s Japan and Cameroon could win a game. Cameroon gave us the great Roger Milla and his absolute joy that was the WC in Italy 1990...

Nymr83 Mar 05 2010 07:37 PM Re: World Cup Draw

those are indeed cool jerseys

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 05 2010 07:42 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Agreed. And some of my favorite teams of all time were all-O/all-the-time sorts. I remember dancing like Roger Milla a lot during that summer/fall's backyard games with my cousins.

metirish Mar 05 2010 07:51 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Read that article when you have the time LWFS, you'll like it, especially if you remember that WC.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 06 2010 02:06 AM Re: World Cup Draw

'86 is just on the edges of my sporting consciousness re: the beautiful game (my eyes were largely Queens-focused)... I have but vague recollections of the Danes in Mexico. Fascinating read nonetheless.

metirish Mar 09 2010 08:43 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Funny and hot http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/225 ... ball+Fans/

Edgy DC Mar 09 2010 09:25 AM Re: World Cup Draw

So, want to do what we did last Cup. Each of us pick a team to go get the skinny on and report back.

metirish Mar 09 2010 09:28 AM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Edgy DC":pbscz95w]So, want to do what we did last Cup. Each of us pick a team to go get the skinny on and report back.[/quote:pbscz95w] Yes , I was thinking about that , I think when we get closer to the event we can get started.

Edgy DC Mar 09 2010 09:59 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Should we re-shuffle the deck or try as often as possible to take the same team we got last time?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 09 2010 10:01 AM Re: World Cup Draw

I'm in, whatever the distribution plan.

metirish Mar 09 2010 10:02 AM Re: World Cup Draw

A re-shuffle would be nice , although I know you are fond of Côte d'Ivoire. I think we have a few new members that were not around last time that would be into this.

Edgy DC Mar 09 2010 10:20 AM Re: World Cup Draw

No, the Elephants broke my heart. It's only laziness that would compel me back. I'm otherwise ready to move on.

metirish Mar 14 2010 08:00 PM Re: World Cup Draw

In a crushing blow to the organizers David Beckham ruptures achilles tendon and will miss the WC.....

Ashie62 Mar 14 2010 11:11 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="metirish":34zjk2x5]In a crushing blow to the organizers David Beckham ruptures achilles tendon and will miss the WC.....[/quote:34zjk2x5] I'm verklempt

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2010 07:47 AM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="metirish"]In a crushing blow to the organizers David Beckham ruptures achilles tendon and will miss the WC.....

Gotta figure that pretty much puts his career on ice, no?
I was going to say it certainly ends the effective part of his career but I'm sure some one here will argue that that already happened years ago.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 15 2010 08:03 AM Re: World Cup Draw

He might lose a half-step, but he could be back in a year, if he wants.

metirish Mar 15 2010 08:10 AM Re: World Cup Draw

I'd say his England career is over but as JCL suggests he could be back in a year. I don'r know his contract status with LA but it must be close to being up. I feel bad for the guy in a way, it's easy to mock him for his image and his wife but when a lot of his peers stopped playing for their countries when they hit 30 he didn't , when he moved to LA we all thought that was it for his England career but he proved otherwise. A last WC would have been nice for him but for the team itself it's not a significant loss, Aaron Lennon having a setback in his recovery is a bigger issue for Capello.

Edgy DC Mar 15 2010 08:22 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Well, he was working hard to get into form, and nobody makes a World Cup roster just as a marketable name. Not for England. If this is a "disaster" for the organizers, it's maybe because viewership in the US --- where non-immigrant God-fearin' TV watching 'Mericans can't name too many players besides "that guy the movie was about" ---- might go down. But the rest of the world don't need no Beckham. Except maybe as somebody to hate on.

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2010 09:12 AM Re: World Cup Draw

I don'r know his contract status with LA but it must be close to being up. I thought it was through the year 2056 or something like that, but I could be off by a few years.

metirish Apr 16 2010 01:43 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Neil Best has some WC stuff here. Martin Tyler is indeed a terrific soccer announcer . Get this though , you're 19 and making your senior debut for Spurs against your most hated North London rivals Arsenal and you do this 9 minutes in to the game Wednesday night. http://www.newsday.com/sports/watchdog- ... -1.1865665

Nymr83 Apr 18 2010 09:52 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Frayed Knot"] I don'r know his contract status with LA but it must be close to being up. I thought it was through the year 2056 or something like that, but I could be off by a few years.

You're thinking of when the Mets stop owing Bobby Bonilla money.

Ashie62 Apr 19 2010 10:26 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Mo Vaughn is also on the payroll to perpituity

HahnSolo Apr 21 2010 08:35 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Couldn't find the generic soccer thread, so... The Barcelona loss is a pretty big surprise, yes? To advance on aggregate, they'll need to win by 3 goals in the next game?

metirish Apr 21 2010 08:58 AM Re: World Cup Draw

I wouldn't say it was a big surprise for a few reasons...Barca had to take the train from Barcelona(duh) to Milan, Inter Milan have been building the past several seasons for the Champions League after dominating the Italian League ......José Mourinho is a brilliant coach and a master tactician and whose sole mandate is to win the CL. Barcelona can turn the tie around but I don't think they will , few coaches impact a game like José Mourinho, plus the Barca captain is out having been booked in the first game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 07 2010 10:58 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Dumber move by South African national police commissioner Bhaki Cele: accidentally getting the American press on his ass by wishing vocally that the USA gets eliminated early (due to the security challenge posed by a potential Obama visit), or essentially admitting that his country's security resources are basically stretched to their thinnest and can't readily handle any additional strain?

MFS62 May 09 2010 11:42 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Its their "famous prayer" that Americans don't make it? They? Or just him? I hope the Americans make it to the final round, so he has to keep sweating out when a Presidential visit might happen. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 11 2010 03:09 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Today, Bob Bradley named his provisional roster, the 30-man group from which he'll select the final 23-player team following training camp. Most notably, the group is without Charlie Davies, the promising striker/Team USA vet (17 caps at age 23) attempting to make a go at the Cup squad after making a nigh-miraculous recovery from a nigh-fatal car crash last November. The full roster is here.

Frayed Knot May 11 2010 08:40 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Ronaldhino left of Brazil's prelim roster. - Has he fallen off recently, or is Brazil just that deep, or do these prelim rosters traditionally change a lot before being etched in stone and this could mean nothing at all?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 11 2010 09:00 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Frayed Knot":3e700rg3]Ronaldhino left of Brazil's prelim roster. - Has he fallen off recently, or is Brazil just that deep, or do these prelim rosters traditionally change a lot before being etched in stone and this could mean nothing at all?[/quote:3e700rg3] The first two. He hasn't played internationally for the squad for over a year, and wasn't on the Confederations Cup the US played last year in South Africa.

Frayed Knot May 24 2010 08:45 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Reading up a bit on the upcoming Cup, an SI article talked about how Brazil is undergoing a bit of a transformation - in attitude at least - from caring more about how their soccer looks to just caring how and if it'll help them win. As such, creative though more erratic (and less serious at times) players like Ronaldinho are out as "samba soccer" takes on a more European style grit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2010 09:42 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Speaking of missing 'Dinhos... though you won't see him on an international pitch in June, you'll see him in the ads. Namely, in this one-- along with a host of others, including Rooney, Drogba, Ribery, Fabio Cannavaro, and Cristiano Ronaldo. It's overwrought, overproduced... and quite awesome.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 24 2010 09:48 PM Re: World Cup Draw

yup

metirish May 25 2010 04:38 AM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Frayed Knot":494cgcrt]Reading up a bit on the upcoming Cup, an SI article talked about how Brazil is undergoing a bit of a transformation - in attitude at least - from caring more about how their soccer looks to just caring how and if it'll help them win. As such, creative though more erratic (and less serious at times) players like Ronaldinho are out as "samba soccer" takes on a more European style grit.[/quote:494cgcrt] It's one reason why the public there are skeptical about the coach Dunga....as a player he was an uncompromising defensive midfielder...an organizer.....a coach's dream really....he stresses that above the samba stuff.....one thing about Brazil this year....they have arguably the best goalie in the world , Júlio César , and will carry with them a brilliant backup, Gomes fro Spurs. Brazil used to never really be known for their goalies.

Frayed Knot May 25 2010 07:15 AM Re: World Cup Draw

It's one reason why the public there are skeptical about the coach Dunga Yes, that was definitely part of the thrust of the piece [heh, heh ... he said 'thrust'] The article was framed partly through the eyes of one an older Brazilian who's one of their most rabid fans and how he (and, by extension, the "old guard") care more about seeing the "beautiful game" than about result but how that view isn't as universal anymore particularly as Brazil seeks - with their growing economy and upcoming Olympics - to become more of a major player on the world stage beyond just in soccer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2010 11:06 AM Re: World Cup Draw

After one shaky tuneup friendly in Hartford versus the (nonqualifying-- Europe was weird this time around, wasn't it?) Czech Republic, Bradley made his evaluations and final cuts. The team's to be announced live in 20 minutes or so. But first... oh, good God. I'm sure cocaine has absolutely nothing to do with this: BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) ? Diego Maradona has promised to run naked through the center of Buenos Aires if Argentina wins the World Cup. The Argentina coach made the promise during a radio show. The unpredictable Maradona was speaking a day after Argentina defeated Canada 5-0 Monday in its final warm-up match before the World Cup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2010 11:52 AM Re: World Cup Draw Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 26 2010 12:12 PM

The roster: Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England), Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton, England), Tim Howard (Everton, England) Defenders: Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes, France), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover, Germany), Jay DeMerit (Watford, England), Clarence Goodson (IK Start, Norway), Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan, Italy), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England) Midfielders: DaMarcus Beasley (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Michael Bradley (Borussia Moenchengladbach, Germany), Ricardo Clark (Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany), Clint Dempsey (Fulham, England), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles), Maurice Edu (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus, Denmark), Stuart Holden (Bolton, England), Jose Torres (Pachuca, Mexico) Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Hull, England), Edson Buddle (Los Angeles), [crossout]Brian Ching (Houston[/crossout]), Robbie Findley (Salt Lake), Herculez Gomez (Pachuca, Mexico). Kicked in the Laser-Welded Balls: Defenders: Chad Marshall and Heath Pearce Midfielders: Alejandro Bedoya, Sacha Kljestan and Robbie Rogers Forwards: Brian Ching and Eddie Johnson Findley and Buddle over, say, Brian Ching (superconsistent in both MLS and for the national team, with nice passing and vision) is a REAL surprise. Apparently, Bornstein and Cherundolo looked like crap yesterday and have been iffy in general of late... but Pearce and Marshall looked worse.

Willets Point May 26 2010 11:57 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Whatever happened to Freddy Adu? Wasn't he supposed to be US MNT's big star by now?

Nymr83 May 26 2010 12:05 PM Re: World Cup Draw

you have Ching under forwards and "missed the team"?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2010 12:13 PM Re: World Cup Draw

[quote="Nymr83"]you have Ching under forwards and "missed the team"?

That's just how hardworking he is on defense-- dude's everywhere.

(Fixed.)

[quote="Willets Point"]Whatever happened to Freddy Adu? Wasn't he supposed to be US MNT's big star by now?

Funny that you say "big" star. Size-- and lack thereof-- has been maybe the biggest issue holding him back from progressing (he's not fantastic without the ball, either). He's 5'8"/150, which is respectable enough, but not big, and it took him a while to get there. He's still only 20, though, so there's time yet...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 31 2010 04:12 PM Re: World Cup Draw

Players bitch about the World Cup ball. In other news, the South African sun rose in the east today, and is anticipated to set in the west.

Frayed Knot Jun 01 2010 08:05 AM Re: World Cup Draw

Things I didn't know about South Africa - Johannesburg is nearly 500 feet (or about 9%) higher in elevation than Denver, Colorado. Several of the other cities hosting games are high also, 4,000 ft and above - how to spell Johannesburg (I looked it up after starting this post)