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Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Frank Cashen

21 votes

Ron Darling

6 votes

Dwight Gooden

28 votes

Howard Johnson

15 votes

Jon Matlack

3 votes

Al Leiter

0 votes

Darryl Strawberry

29 votes

Bobby Valentine

17 votes

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 07:46 AM

As in the other poll, there are no easy choices. We've whittled our list of 64 down to 16 names. In asking you to vote for four of these eight, I'm in no way saying that you are declaring the next four "unworthy," only that you see the four you pick as higher priorities to consider for 2010. I sorted this by seed, but interesting how so many of these 1986 affiliates ended up in this group.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Cashen, Darryl, Doc, and Bobby V. I don't think Leiter belongs, and Matlack is a fringe candidate. HoJo is also kind of fringey, and Darling can wait; give him time to bolster his credentials by extending his broadcasting tenure. Cashen, like Jane Jarvis, is getting on in years. (To say the least.) Darryl and Doc are currently in good graces with the Mets, that may not continue to be the case. I kind of wavered on Bobby Valentine because there's that slim chance that his Mets history may not yet be complete.

metirish Dec 10 2009 07:58 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Cashen, Darryl, Doc, and Bobby V. Without looking at Grims post I voted for these guys.....

TransMonk Dec 10 2009 07:59 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

I dittoed Grimm.

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 08:03 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

I went for HoJo over Bobby V. I surprised myself, but there you have it.

themetfairy Dec 10 2009 09:11 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

I went for Darling, Gooden, Strawberry and Valentine. I read the options too fast and should have included Cashen instead of Darling. My bad.

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 09:27 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

You can change your vote.

themetfairy Dec 10 2009 10:07 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

[quote="Edgy DC":37gl24k1]You can change your vote.[/quote:37gl24k1] I didn't realize that. Done :)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 10 2009 10:40 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

GET OUT OF MY MIND, BEEG!

metsguyinmichigan Dec 10 2009 10:44 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

[quote="Edgy DC":32cxnlbr]I went for HoJo over Bobby V. I surprised myself, but there you have it.[/quote:32cxnlbr] Me too, but I wouldn't complain if Bobby V went in. A worthy candidate.

G-Fafif Dec 10 2009 12:44 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

If the HOF has proceeded apace after '97 when Keith was inducted, HoJo would have been in earlier this decade, maybe even while Bobby V was still managing. Yet I couldn't pass over Bobby now, so one more year for HoJo to wait. He can chill with Fonzie. Doc, Darryl and Cashen were the others.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Dec 10 2009 12:50 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Hey, guys! I saw you were voting for the Mets' Hall of Fame! How's the vote go.... ...ing? Hmmph.

Ashie62 Dec 10 2009 12:56 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Al Leiter..I cannot stand you..He can take his Springsteen and shove it up his ass..NJ Shore Jackazz Al, it isn't philanthropy when you have to be pictured and have all know you put up some money for your deeds I'd rather see you give 10 bucks to a drunk in the park So there

Ashie62 Dec 10 2009 12:58 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Gooden,Hojo,Straw,Booby V

Vince Coleman Firecracker Dec 10 2009 01:12 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Oh, and I voted for Darling. I can be convinced this was a wrong choice, but he was my first favorite player. And he ain't a terrible broadcaster, either.

TransMonk Dec 10 2009 01:34 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Al should be happy he got into the sweet 16.

Ashie62 Dec 10 2009 01:54 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

[quote="TransMonk":3u90x8kj]Al should be happy he got into the sweet 16.[/quote:3u90x8kj] Amen

Rockin' Doc Dec 10 2009 07:13 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Gooden, Cashen, Strawberry, & HoJo

TheOldMole Dec 11 2009 03:27 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

I left Doc off, which is probably crazy. Of course he should go in, but not next. Let him do a little more penance.

Ashie62 Dec 11 2009 06:54 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

[quote="TheOldMole":1hqjblm3]I left Doc off, which is probably crazy. Of course he should go in, but not next. Let him do a little more penance.[/quote:1hqjblm3] I left Doc off. In some ways he was a flash in the pan at Shea all of his own doing.. and now he's a graffitti artrist, the noive...Jeff.."hide the china" Fred

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 11 2009 07:30 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Leaving aside the fact that he may have had the greatest pitching season in Met history, Seaver INCLUDED (and one of the top 5 or so pitching seasons in baseball history), 300-plus starts over 10.5 years of service-- getting Cy Young votes in 5 of them-- is hardly a flash in the pan.

Edgy DC Dec 11 2009 07:45 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

To the extent that he was a flash in the pan, he was a thermonuclear flash.

Edgy DC Dec 11 2009 07:48 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

To the extent that he isn't, he's second all-time in wins and striekouts; third in innings, complete games, and starts; fourth in starts.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 11 2009 07:55 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Mike Vail was a flash in the pan. Doc Gooden was a Rookie of the Year, a Cy Young, and a key part of a World Championship and an additional division title.

G-Fafif Dec 11 2009 08:28 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Four-time All-Star, too. Here's what came after his flashy '84 and '85: 17-6 15-7 18-9 9-4 19-7 13-7 10-13 12-15 3-4 Even if he was never quite Doc the way we choose to remember him, Dwight was pretty darn good for an awfully long time.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 19 2010 11:27 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Real Met HoF results were pretty close to ours. Sorry, Bobby V.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 19 2010 11:55 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Davey go down in an earlier group-of-death?

Edgy DC Jan 19 2010 11:56 AM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

No, Davey was in the other half of the bracket, reaching the finals through the Payson group.

Edgy DC Jan 19 2010 09:11 PM Re: Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

Payson group.