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Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 02:01 PM

KNIFE & TWIST: Jeff Francoeur's surgery to repair a torn ligament in his left thumb turned out to be more complex than originally expected, although the outfielder still expects to be ready for spring training. Because Francoeur played with the injury for the final month of the season, the thumb ligament wore down and shriveled, necessitating a transplant from his wrist. Francoeur first got the cast off last week. He expects to begin hitting off a tee on Jan.1 and be cleared to hit pitches two weeks later. THUMBS UP: Alex Cora, who had surgeries to repair torn ligaments in both thumbs, began playing winter ball last weekend with Caguas in Puerto Rico. Other Mets who approach spring training with questions about where they are on the wellness continuum include... everybody.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 10 2009 02:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2011

Injuries 2011 From the future, Conan?

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 02:03 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2011

Woopies.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 02:53 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I was independently researching injuries for a different project when UMDB began its DL listings (which I may be able to help complete soon). But here's a Trivia Kwiz for you all: Can you name: 1) the Mets' All-time leader in disabled-list assignments (that's the number of times a player was placed on the disabled list?) 2) The man who ranks second in this category? 3) The five men who share third place?

Edgy DC Dec 10 2009 02:56 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

1) the Mets' All-time leader in disabled-list assignments (that's the number of times a player was placed on the disabled list?) Mookie Wilson 2) The man who ranks second in this category? Bob Apodaca 3) The five men who share third place? John Franco, Ron Gardenhire, Darryl Strawberry, Jerry Grote, and John Stearns

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 03:00 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

How do I say this? Of your seven guesses 3 are correct answers but may not be to the right questions

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 10 2009 03:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

This is like that The Price is Right game! 1) Gardenhire 2) Mookie 3) Floyd, Franco, Hundley, Isringhausen and... Piazza

G-Fafif Dec 10 2009 03:45 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Bud Harrelson in there somewhere?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 06:07 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: This is like that The Price is Right game! 1) Gardenhire 2) Mookie 3) Floyd, Franco, Hundley, Isringhausen and... Piazza 2 out of 7, order may not be right.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 10 2009 06:08 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

G-Fafif wrote: Bud Harrelson in there somewhere? No. Although if we were counting Military Service time off, another story, but we're not.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2009 06:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The first two names I thought of were Stearns and Swan. Later examples: Jose Reyes and Cliff Floyd.

Edgy DC Dec 13 2009 02:24 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

metirish wrote: Notes & quotes: Alex Cora, who recently signed a one-year, $2-million contract, reportedly left Thursday's game in Puerto Rico with back pain. Newsday

Edgy DC Feb 17 2010 05:58 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Hey, what were the answers? Meanwhile: ="David Walstein in his New York Times blog"]While working out in preparation to join the Mets, reliever Kelvim Escobar felt some discomfort in his right shoulder, so the Mets will proceed slowly with him. He will not be up to speed with the rest of the pitchers when he reports to camp on Thursday. Escobar, who had surgery on his shoulder in 2007, missed all of 2008 and pitched only five innings last year for the Angels. General Manager Omar Minaya wants Escobar, who had 38 saves for the Blue Jays in 2002, and the Japanese right-hander Ryota Takahashi to vie for the eighth-inning setup role.

TransMonk Feb 17 2010 09:13 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I've been expecting exactly zero out of Escobar since he was signed. If he finds his way to the mound in a regular season game, I will consider it a bonus.

Valadius Feb 17 2010 10:27 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

TransMonk wrote: I've been expecting exactly zero out of Escobar since he was signed. If he finds his way to the mound in a regular season game, I will consider it a bonus. Ah, the benefit of low expectations. In other news, Jose Reyes says his "esplosion" is back.

Edgy DC Feb 18 2010 01:07 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

="Mike "Hand-Me-Down" Puma in his New York Post blog"]PORT ST. LUCIE -- Kelvim Escobar's shoulder isn't 100 percent, but this doesn't come as news to the Mets. Amid reports that Escobar suffered a setback in his comeback from shoulder injury, Johan Santana told The Post today that he played catch with Escobar as recently as last Friday in Fort Myers and everything is fine with the right-hander. "[The Mets] have him on a program, so they are going to take it slow with him," Santana said. GM Omar Minaya said nothing has changed with Escobar, whom the Mets signed in December with the idea he can compete for the eighth-inning setup role. "The plan all along has been we're not going to rush Escobar," Minaya said.

TransMonk Feb 25 2010 02:56 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Per Metsblog, Francisco Rodriguez has pink-eye and has been told to stay away from the team.

Ashie62 Feb 25 2010 04:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: ="Mike "Hand-Me-Down" Puma in his New York Post blog"]PORT ST. LUCIE -- Kelvim Escobar's shoulder isn't 100 percent, but this doesn't come as news to the Mets. Amid reports that Escobar suffered a setback in his comeback from shoulder injury, Johan Santana told The Post today that he played catch with Escobar as recently as last Friday in Fort Myers and everything is fine with the right-hander. "[The Mets] have him on a program, so they are going to take it slow with him," Santana said. GM Omar Minaya said nothing has changed with Escobar, whom the Mets signed in December with the idea he can compete for the eighth-inning setup role. "The plan all along has been we're not going to rush Escobar," Minaya said.

The last line should read "The plan all along has been we're not going to use Escobar, " Minaya said

Frayed Knot Feb 25 2010 07:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

TransMonk wrote: Per Metsblog, Francisco Rodriguez has pink-eye and has been told to stay away from the team. I've been diagnosed with a weak arm, slow bat, and poor foot-work and have been told to stay away from the team.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2010 09:30 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Conjunctivitis-Rod is out of quarantine and back with the team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2010 11:08 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Meanwhile, 98 Degrees Kelvim has been asked to stop throwing for the time being. (Yikes.)

Swan Swan H Mar 09 2010 05:46 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

He must be the one on the right.

metirish Mar 13 2010 07:22 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Tweet from Heyman. best wishes to top #redsox prospect Ryan Westmoreland, who was diagnosed with a cavernous malformation in his brain and is having surgery All the best

metirish Mar 26 2010 01:55 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Freak injury time! Derrek Lee hurts back in chair collapse By 'Duk I know Alex Remington was just writing on how Derrek Lee(notes) has been prone to injury the past few years, but this is ridiculous. According to manager Lou Piniella, Lee had just sat down for some pregame chow on Wednesday when the clubhouse chair beneath him decided to call it quits. The Cubs first baseman dusted himself off for an appearance in an exhibition game against the Rangers, but he left early to receive treatment for his 34-year-old back. From the Chicago Tribune: "He was eating before the game and the chair just collapsed on him," Piniella said. "That's why we got him out of there after three innings." Piniella said Lee was fine and would be back in the starting lineup Friday. To blatantly steal a joke from Lookout Landing, you're a loser if you had former Mariner Carlos Silva(notes) in your Cubs chair breaking pool. The newly-svelte Carlos Zambrano(notes) and Geovany Soto(notes), too. The sad part is that if Lee comes back on Friday, this won't rank very highly on the list of recent Cubs' freak injuries. Those candidates would include Sammy Sosa(notes) sneezing his way out of the lineup, Carlos Zambrano emailing his elbow out, Kerry Wood(notes) slipping near a hot tub, Alfonso Soriano(notes) hopping his way to an MRI and Ryan Dempster(notes) breaking his toe while jumping out of the dugout to celebrate. Some of those — and more — are detailed in an old post we did on other freak baseball injuries. It's clearly a jungle out there for some of these guys.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 26 2010 02:08 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

metirish wrote: a cavernous malformation in his brain That doesn't sound very appealing.

Edgy DC Mar 27 2010 09:01 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Carlos Beltran reporting that his rehab is filled with pain-freeness.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 27 2010 09:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I don't even like opening this thread to find good news.

Ashie62 Mar 28 2010 01:13 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I want my Reyes back, Reyes back, baby back ribs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 28 2010 01:51 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I want my Reyes Back, Reyes back, Reyes back, Baby back ri-ibs

Edgy DC Mar 30 2010 10:33 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Mets plan on playing Reyes in some minor league games today. Minor league exhibition rules are pretty fungible, and according to Kevin Kernan, the plan is to bounce from field to field DHing, getting a bunch of at-bats in, but not playing the field, and running only to first and getting replaced by a courtesy runner if he reaches.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 30 2010 09:50 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Leaving today's game with injuries: Murphy (twisted ankle in a rundown between third and home) and Cora (plunked on the hip by Carpenter).

Ashie62 Mar 30 2010 10:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Frank Catalonotto has a chubbie

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 11:29 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Running is a baseball activity, right? What about running... in earnest? According to Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus, Carlos Beltran will begin running in earnest this weekend. Carroll describes this as ‘a major test.’ Yes, but at what percentage of full strength is he? 70? 80? I MUST HAVE WEIGHTY-SOUNDING ARBITRARY NUMBERS!

Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2010 11:37 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

There's also some guy named Earnest who's going to be "running in carlos" today, but we don't really care about him.

Swan Swan H Apr 09 2010 11:39 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

There's been an opening since Jim Varney died.

G-Fafif Apr 09 2010 11:42 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Luis Castillo has a barking calf, says Adam Rubin. Second baseman Luis Castillo, who stayed reasonably healthy while appearing in 142 games and batting .302 for the Mets last season, needs to sit out Friday’s series opener against the Washington Nationals. Castillo said he felt a “pull” in his right calf muscle while stealing second base in the third inning on Opening Day, although he remained in that game. Manager Jerry Manuel indicated he planned to use Ruben Tejada at shortstop and Alex Cora at second base when right-hander Mike Pelfrey faces Nats right-hander Garrett Mock. “I’ve been feeling it for a couple of days,” Castillo said. “I need a day. … It’s not a big deal." Castillo also slid headfirst into first base Thursday to avoid a tag and pick up an infield single, stinging his left hand in the process. But the second baseman said that is a non-issue. “I hit my hand a little bit, but I’m OK,” he said.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 11:47 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Meanwhile, while having his Honey Nut Cheerios, Pelfrey smiles a little. Then he remembers who's playing short, and the corners of his mouth fall gently back into place.

Nymr83 Apr 09 2010 11:57 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Manager Jerry Manuel indicated he planned to use Ruben Tejada at shortstop and Alex Cora at second base it feels like 2009 again fortunately, reyes played 9 innings at SS last night in a minor league game and is due back saturday!

metirish Apr 09 2010 02:12 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Per Metsblog Andy Martino of the Daily News says Carlos Beltran will not begin running tomorrow, as he was expected to. Martino says Beltran hasn’t experienced any setbacks – he just isn’t ready yet.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 02:30 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

But Will Carroll told me he was earnest! I'VE BEEN BETRAYED BY A CENTER FIELDER FOR THE LAST TIME! I WILL NEVER LOVE A STRONG GAP DEFENDER AGAIN!

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2010 04:12 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Hardly the first time that one of Will Carroll's scoops has proven to be less than scoop-tacular.

Edgy DC Apr 09 2010 08:42 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Meanwhile, while having his Honey Nut Cheerios, Pelfrey smiles a little. Then he remembers who's playing short, and the corners of his mouth fall gently back into place. Man, support your local Cora. He's done very well over there so far.

Fman99 Apr 11 2010 06:32 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Apparently Raul Valdes is being called up from AAA to replace Sean Green, who is going on the 15-day DL with a "small rib cage tear." I approve of any transaction that results in less Sean Green appearances.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2010 11:06 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The guy did perfectly well last year.

G-Fafif Apr 11 2010 12:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: The guy did perfectly well last year. Only within the confines of willful revisionism or kneejerk contrarianism did Sean Green (105 baserunners in 69.2 relief innings, including 9 hit batters) do perfectly well last year. He may not deserve the Schleprock treatment in which dark clouds automatically form over our heads at the first mention of him but he was quite streaky across 2009, the opposite of consistently good.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2010 12:28 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I assure you I practice no such thing. The kneejerk reaction is celebrating news of injury. Sure, he gave up his share. And he still got the last out enough to keep his ERA passable. But somehow Raul Valdes is a more heartening prospect? That's some pretty willlful thinking. Come on.

G-Fafif Apr 11 2010 03:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Good health is the most heartening prospect. Here's hoping Valdes's stay makes him hard to send back -- and a speedy recovery to Sean.

Fman99 Apr 21 2010 12:52 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

ESPN New York reporting that Manny Acosta is on his way into town as a possible DL replacement for Igarashi.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2010 01:01 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Confirmed: Acosta is now a Met, Igarashi to the DL.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2010 02:18 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Just in time for Atlanta's visit this weekend. Los Bravos Zurdos will likely be drooling.

smg58 Apr 21 2010 03:15 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Did Parnell run over Manuel's dog or something?

smg58 Apr 21 2010 03:20 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

To answer my own question: Parnell and Calero have been having trouble finding the strike zone so far, while Acosta has at least pitched well.

Edgy DC Apr 30 2010 02:55 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Dan Murphy played his first extended spring training game today. The whole question about what to do with him seems pretty moot. He's heading to the minors under any cirumstances for rehab and catch-up duty, and he has options, so he can stay there as long as necessary until the sitatuation presents itself.

TransMonk Apr 30 2010 03:07 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

It always scares me when I see this thread with new posts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 30 2010 03:27 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

TransMonk wrote: It always scares me when I see this thread with new posts. Not only that, but when it's in Philly, I start thinking whipped batteries and curbside brawling.

MFS62 May 01 2010 01:12 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

According to WFAN (or was it ESPN Radio?) earlier today, Green's injury has been re-diagnosed as a fracture. Later

smg58 May 01 2010 01:26 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I hope Murphy plays multiple positions at AAA.

Edgy DC May 04 2010 11:22 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

CINCINNATI -- Kelvim Escobar will have surgery on Wednesday to repair a torn capsule in the front of his right shoulder, the Mets announced on Monday. There is no timetable for his return. I think you need to have a turn to have a return.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2010 11:25 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Also, Pelf underwent a "precautionary" (wary quotes mine) MRI on his shoulder, which apparently felt tight both before and after Saturday's start. Because the Mets were so close to New York, they sent him to the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan to receive a precautionary MRI. Pelfrey will throw his scheduled bullpen session on Tuesday and, barring any setbacks, will then start Friday in New York. "It's nothing crazy," Pelfrey said. "It's just a little sore, a little tight."

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2010 11:28 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Yeah I was hoping that if we didn't discuss Pelfrey's shoulder we could pretend it was nothing just like him.

metirish May 04 2010 11:29 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

attgig May 04 2010 12:00 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

reporting pelf's mri cleared him. the sore shoulder was nothing.... we'll see on that next start. as for kelvim...what a waste of freakin 1.25 mil. what a waste. guaranteed money when he can't even make it out of spring training...*sigh*

attgig May 04 2010 12:01 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

and speaking of beltran... from my fantasy league's player update: Beltran, who was fitted with a custom brace for his surgically repaired right knee during his April 20 follow-up exam at the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colo., hopes to begin running in a week, ESPN New York reports. Spin: During his visit to Dr. Steadman last month, Beltran had to stop running because of the intense discomfort. Beltran acknowledged he likely will wear a brace when he returns and he is not 100 percent. He's swinging at underhand pitches at the moment and there is no specific timeframe for his return. Tue, May 4

attgig May 04 2010 02:52 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

hopefully this isn't anything to worry about, but: according to Burkhardt: Pelfrey skipped his bullpen today as a precaution. Jerry says it was Warthen's call and that Pelfrey felt ok and will indeed start Friday. http://twitter.com/KBurkhardtSNY/statuses/13382603540

SteveJRogers May 04 2010 03:45 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: CINCINNATI -- Kelvim Escobar will have surgery on Wednesday to repair a torn capsule in the front of his right shoulder, the Mets announced on Monday. There is no timetable for his return. I think you need to have a turn to have a return. Well, THAT was money well spent by the Mets. Why Omar and various placed medical staff members still have a job after this I don't know.

Frayed Knot May 04 2010 04:54 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

SteveJRogers wrote: Edgy DC wrote: CINCINNATI -- Kelvim Escobar will have surgery on Wednesday to repair a torn capsule in the front of his right shoulder, the Mets announced on Monday. There is no timetable for his return. I think you need to have a turn to have a return. Well, THAT was money well spent by the Mets. Why Omar and various placed medical staff members still have a job after this I don't know. Oh c'mon. Fans call for teams to take risks on players all the time with no guarantee as to how they'll turn out. They'll then pick on the ones that don't work out and act as if the outcome was known all along and that it's their money being paid to the guy.

Edgy DC May 04 2010 06:21 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Yeah, I don't think that's a waste at all. You put your money on three numbers, and if one hits, you've played well, and the losses on the other two are a small part of doing business.

smg58 May 05 2010 07:15 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

You could argue that Omar misread the market early on and jumped to sign guys who weren't better bets than what was available in late January. But to be fair, our pen looks pretty good on the whole and we still have Parnell and Calero in the minors and Igarashi on the DL. Ultimately Minaya paid a good price overall for what he's gotten from the pen so far; it's just that some of the bargains have worked out a lot better than Escobar wound up doing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 11 2010 01:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Could be, maybe sometime soon. Possibly. Also, as per John Ricco/Anthony DiComo, Igarashi is close to a rehab assignment, having thrown off a mound painlessly.

G-Fafif May 17 2010 06:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Iggy with a good outing in St. Lucie, Buffalo calling. Takahashi's apparently in for Friday, and Dickey allegedly with a locker nameplate already in advance of Wednesday (when the Mets will be in a different clubhouse). Presumably Niese to the DL.

Edgy DC Jul 01 2010 08:11 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

What's the skinny on Reyes?

Ceetar Jul 01 2010 08:14 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: What's the skinny on Reyes? The bit I gleened from various reports last night seems to be that merely a stiff back, he wanted to play, Manuel didn't want him to play, probably be reevaluated today. Suspect he'll take some swings and go from there. Same with Pagan, as per Manuel, except supposedly Pagan will have no chance at playing today. If he feels good in BP, he'll play tomorrow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 01 2010 08:32 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I'd doubt with the long plane ride, etc that Josejose would play today.

Ceetar Jul 01 2010 08:37 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'd doubt with the long plane ride, etc that Josejose would play today. seems a reasonable assumption. quote on Metsblog about Reyes. seems like mostly precautionary. Reyes says it's more the side than the back.

Edgy DC Jul 06 2010 07:04 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jose Reyes expected to bat exclusively righthanded upon his return. Beltran playing full nine-inning games in center now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 09:07 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Perhaps he can play a particularly deep short.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 09:13 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Glad we didn't cut loose Jeff Francoeur this morning. Tatis has shoulder surgery SAN FRANCISCO -- Utility man Fernando Tatis underwent potentially career-ending surgery Wednesday to repair the labrum in his right shoulder. The Mets transferred Tatis from the 15-day to the 60-day disabled list to make room for outfielder Carlos Beltran on their 40-man roster. Tatis, 35, was hitting .185 with two home runs in 65 at-bats as the team's primary right-handed pinch-hitter and backup first baseman. A strong candidate for the 2008 National League Comeback Player of the Year award, Tatis originally separated his shoulder in September of that season. Opting for rehab over surgery at the time, Tatis has played in varying degrees of discomfort ever since. Last month, the Mets finally placed him on the disabled list with a right shoulder AC joint sprain. Tatis is unlikely to return this season and, at 35 years old, may face an uphill climb to return at all.

duan Jul 16 2010 04:58 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: Jose Reyes expected to bat exclusively righthanded upon his return. wtf is that all about? seems rather crazy.

Rockin' Doc Jul 16 2010 11:01 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

duan wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Jose Reyes expected to bat exclusively righthanded upon his return. wtf is that all about? seems rather crazy. Reyes has a "strained" right oblique muscle which causes him pain when swinging left handed. He reaggrivated it on this play throwing Troy Glaus out from deep in the hole on July 10th and had to be a late scratch from the line up for yesterday's game in San Francisco. Hopefully, he will heal quickly be able to return to switch hitting in the near future.

Ashie62 Jul 16 2010 11:09 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jose Reyes and "near future" rarely seem to work out. This guy must be cursed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2010 11:13 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The explanation for this injury makes no sense. Unless it's supremely localized, a right oblique injury would hamper a righty swing/throw-- or at least, be affected by it-- just as much as a lefty swing/throw. Baseball motions necessitate twisting violently no matter which way you're twisting.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2010 11:40 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

There's plenty of precedent for baseball injuries that hamper a player from one side of the plate and not the other. And he's not cursed.

Zvon Jul 16 2010 11:42 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: And he's not cursed.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2010 11:49 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Let's talk about Fernando Tatis, whose career probably just ended.

Ashie62 Jul 16 2010 11:51 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: There's plenty of precedent for baseball injuries that hamper a player from one side of the plate and not the other. And he's not cursed. He is injury prone at minimum.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2010 11:56 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Yes, and you predicted he'd never play another game for the Mets. Perspective and a lack of persective can both be contageous.

Ashie62 Jul 16 2010 11:58 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: Yes, and you predicted he'd never play another game for the Mets. Perspective and a lack of persective can both be contageous. I forgot, you know all..

Edgy DC Jul 16 2010 12:09 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Come on.

duan Jul 16 2010 02:13 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I just think it's pretty crazy to expect him to be useful from the right side vs righties when he's spent his career *not* hitting them from that side. I'd prefer to DL him retro to before all-star and see how rest helps.

Zvon Jul 16 2010 02:56 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

duan wrote: I just think it's pretty crazy to expect him to be useful from the right side vs righties when he's spent his career *not* hitting them from that side. I'd prefer to DL him retro to before all-star and see how rest helps. Gotta go with duan here. I could quote myself from the series right before the break, and I love quoting myself, but I won't. We need him at 100% for the long haul.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2010 03:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I don't mean to be one of those fans who presumes to know how to treat athlete injuries but sure seems like the Mets took a different approach to "Prevention & Recovery" when 4 games out vs. early in the year. Especially when it was clear that Compromised Reyes was nowhere hear the player Healthy Reyes was.

Ashie62 Jul 16 2010 06:21 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Adam Rubin has Justin Turner coming up from the Bisons to NY in anticipation of a DL stint by Jose Reyes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2010 06:31 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Went looking for that story only to find that Big Pelf is being pushed to Monday with neck stiffness. Turner is en route but not clear that Reyes DL is the corresponding move?

Ashie62 Jul 16 2010 06:44 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Went looking for that story only to find that Big Pelf is being pushed to Monday with neck stiffness. Turner is en route but not clear that Reyes DL is the corresponding move? Rubin is speculating. I found it on Rotoworld.

DocTee Jul 16 2010 07:55 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Turner up, Evans down.

Ceetar Jul 16 2010 08:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

DocTee wrote: Turner up, Evans down. I was all for playing short for 5 or so days and hoping Reyes got better. but if he can't even play the field in an emergency (and swing righty and righty if he had to) then he shouldn't be on the roster right now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2010 09:37 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons.

Ceetar Jul 16 2010 09:48 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons. Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2010 10:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons. Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured. Indeed. Quite a team.

Rockin' Doc Jul 17 2010 07:51 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons. Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured. Indeed. Quite a team. The Mets penchant for keeping injured players on the roster and playing shorthanded is the front office correlate to Jerry's love of sacrifice bunting. It's as if the entire Mets organization has an aversion to prosperity and goes out of it's way to make things as difficult as possible.

Willets Point Jul 17 2010 07:51 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Oliver Perez had a no-decision tonight pitching for Buffalo against the Gwinnett Braves. His line 6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K.

Edgy DC Jul 17 2010 10:33 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Sweeter.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2010 11:39 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Maine's done for the year... and possibly in blue-and-orange. #Mets John Maine had arthroscopic surgery yesterday to clean out scar tissue in his right shoulder. =#008000]21 minutes ago via web #Mets Maine is expected to be ready for Spring Training. =#008000]20 minutes ago via web

themetfairy Jul 24 2010 11:49 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Maine's done for the year... and possibly in blue-and-orange. #Mets John Maine had arthroscopic surgery yesterday to clean out scar tissue in his right shoulder. =#008000]21 minutes ago via web #Mets Maine is expected to be ready for Spring Training. =#008000]20 minutes ago via web Damn - I really thought he was on the road back....

Edgy DC Jul 24 2010 12:20 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

It's probably for the best. I had difficulty seeing how he'd come back at any meaningful level of effectiveness.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2010 10:57 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

After yesterday's strain, Throb may be headed DLward. (With three catchers and Ollie sucking up a 'pen spot, I don't understand how this is a "may" situation.)

Ashie62 Jul 25 2010 01:25 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Maybe Thole can make the job his own. If the Mets fall out of it they can do the same thing at 2B with Tejada.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2010 09:29 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The problem today was that Dickey was in Kershaw's hole, and it ended up straining things.

Chad Ochoseis Jul 26 2010 12:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Concerned that your D1ckey isn't working like it should? The Hospital for Special Surgery can help!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 26 2010 12:34 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Apparently, they'll take a look at your strained Rod as well. BTW... this is sheer coincidence that the team's had three guys come down with oblique strains in the last four weeks, right?

Willets Point Jul 26 2010 12:46 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: BTW... this is sheer coincidence that the team's had three guys come down with oblique strains in the last four weeks, right? No coincidence at all. The Mets were playing too well for his dastardly plans, so Fred Wilpon hired a hit man who specializes in straining obliques.

Edgy DC Jul 27 2010 10:26 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jenrry Mejia, throwing simulated games in St. Lucie.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2010 02:10 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

You can relax, stiffies: Dickey looks okay after yesterday's exam.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2010 03:02 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Bay suffered a concussion making that catch in Los Angeles, will miss the Cardinals series, perhaps beyond.

Ceetar Aug 04 2010 02:09 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

[url]http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/082010/08042010/566077/index_html?page=1 Very interesting article about John Maine, and how basically he's been pitching injured this entire time since the very first DL stint. Something about the arm angle in the MRI machine. Phillies doctors caught it, he had the surgery, and theoretically should actually be 'healed' now. Still can't bring him back for anything but a minimum incentive-laden compete for a spot but might be depth type contract, but I did/do like Maine and hope he does get healthy again.

Gwreck Aug 04 2010 02:15 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Ceetar wrote: Still can't bring him back for anything but a minimum incentive-laden compete for a spot but might be depth type contract That's not an immediate option. He's arbitration eligible, which means he can't have his salary reduced more than a small percentage over what it was in 2010. The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 04 2010 02:17 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Copy editors had the day off I see. Pelphrey!

Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2010 02:24 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Gwreck wrote: The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011. Hmmm... you have me wondering. Is that May 1 thing applicable to non-tenders? Or just for guys who have the six or more years of service?

Ceetar Aug 04 2010 02:39 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Gwreck wrote: The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011. Hmmm... you have me wondering. Is that May 1 thing applicable to non-tenders? Or just for guys who have the six or more years of service? What'd he make this year? 3 or so? probably too much for what's pretty much going to be a crapshoot.

Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 02:52 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

That May 1st deadline doesn't apply anymore. It used to be that if you cut ties with your own guy you were unable to sign him until May 1 while other teams could hook up with him at any time, but that clause has been removed. So the first half of that is correct - that in order to get Maine at some greatly reduced price not determined under the threat of arbitration they'd have to cut him and allow him to be a FA. But once they did they'd still have the same opportunity to pursue him as anyone else - unless he's pissed off in which case none of this matters.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 04 2010 03:16 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jason Bay, by phone, tells Ray Ramirez he's feeling better.

G-Fafif Aug 04 2010 04:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Jason Bay, by phone, tells Ray Ramirez he's feeling better. "Hello..." "Hello, this is Ray Ramirez, head trainer of the New York Mets. I'd like to speak to Jason Bay to get an update on his concussion." "Hi Ray. This is Bay. But you can call me Jay." "Jay?" "Ray?" "Yeah Jay?" "I'm feeling better, man." "That's great! How much?" "Way!" "Way?" "Way. You can tell 'em, Ray, that Jay Bay is a-okay!" "Okay! Glad to hear it....Jay, Jay...you sure you're a-okay?" "Hello?" "Jay, this is Ray." "Ray who?" "Jay, you sure the concussion is coming around?" "Hold on, I'll go get him."

Fman99 Aug 04 2010 08:03 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

G-Fafif wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Jason Bay, by phone, tells Ray Ramirez he's feeling better. "Hello..." "Hello, this is Ray Ramirez, head trainer of the New York Mets. I'd like to speak to Jason Bay to get an update on his concussion." "Hi Ray. This is Bay. But you can call me Jay." "Jay?" "Ray?" "Yeah Jay?" "I'm feeling better, man." "That's great! How much?" "Way!" "Way?" "Way. You can tell 'em, Ray, that Jay Bay is a-okay!" "Okay! Glad to hear it....Jay, Jay...you sure you're a-okay?" "Hello?" "Jay, this is Ray." "Ray who?" "Jay, you sure the concussion is coming around?" "Hold on, I'll go get him." This made my satchel hurt.

metirish Aug 04 2010 08:07 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Some of Greg's best work is when the Mets are at their worst...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 04 2010 08:07 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

quality bit. I thought it was gonna be a ray jay johnson thing.

Zvon Aug 04 2010 08:12 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

It is belt buckle classic, and I did need a laugh.

Edgy DC Aug 05 2010 09:33 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jenrry Mejia, rehabbing with St. Lucie, knocks 'em out with four innings, one hit, one walk, seven strikeouts.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 07:25 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Mejia returns to Binghamton, presumably fully rehabilitated. Brian Bruney goes on the DL at Buffalo.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 06 2010 09:05 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Didn't know foot-in-mouth was DLable.

metirish Aug 07 2010 12:15 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Gay-Rod hit by a Berkman line drive in BP , down for five minutes ....he was taking grounders at 3rd....treated by paramedics....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2010 02:25 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

LOL

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 02:52 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Alex Rodriguez Struck by Batting Practice Line Drive, Out of Lineup Yankees star Alex Rodriguez was struck by a line drive and had to be helped off the field during batting practice before Saturday's game against the Red Sox. Rodriguez was taking grounders at third base when new acquisition Lance Berkman drilled a ball that struck Rodriguez in the lower left leg. Rodriguez reportedly was talking to Fox announcer Joe Buck when he was hit. Rodriguez limped toward center field then went to the ground as his teammates waved for the Yankees' medical staff. He stayed down for about five minutes before limping off the field alongside trainer Gene Monahan and heading into the clubhouse. A short time later, Rodriguez was scratched from the starting lineup for Saturday's game, with Ramiro Pena inserted in his place. The Yankees called his injury a lower leg contusion and subsequent X-rays came back negative. Berkman has two hits in 19 at-bats since joining the Yankees last weekend. He apologized to Rodriguez on the field and later told reporters he hoped the third baseman wouldn't be out long. "It's my contribution to the Yankees so far -- not the greatest," Berkman said. I imagine there's footage.

Ceetar Aug 07 2010 03:06 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: Alex Rodriguez Struck by Batting Practice Line Drive, Out of Lineup Yankees star Alex Rodriguez was struck by a line drive and had to be helped off the field during batting practice before Saturday's game against the Red Sox. Rodriguez was taking grounders at third base when new acquisition Lance Berkman drilled a ball that struck Rodriguez in the lower left leg. Rodriguez reportedly was talking to Fox announcer Joe Buck when he was hit. Rodriguez limped toward center field then went to the ground as his teammates waved for the Yankees' medical staff. He stayed down for about five minutes before limping off the field alongside trainer Gene Monahan and heading into the clubhouse. A short time later, Rodriguez was scratched from the starting lineup for Saturday's game, with Ramiro Pena inserted in his place. The Yankees called his injury a lower leg contusion and subsequent X-rays came back negative. Berkman has two hits in 19 at-bats since joining the Yankees last weekend. He apologized to Rodriguez on the field and later told reporters he hoped the third baseman wouldn't be out long. "It's my contribution to the Yankees so far -- not the greatest," Berkman said. I imagine there's footage. It's in Fox's contract that there can never be less than 2 cameras on A-Rod while he's in uniform. Why'd he limp towards CF? What'd he think, maybe if the balls he was too slow to catch wouldn't hurt as hard out there?

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2010 03:54 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

FOX's Joe Buck reveals that ARod was looking away from BP for a brief second when he got hit, and the reason he was looking away is that he was saying hello to FOX's Joe Buck. Buck didn't say whether it was he who distracted Rodriguez or if ARod simply saw a media member and figured it was someone to suck up to (and, really, either one is easily believable) but the point is that he turned around too late to field Berkman's low liner. Meanwhile, as if Yanqui fans didn't already have enough reason to be suspicious of Berkman - what with his 2-for-21 start, his non 'TY' status, and because half of them had never heard of him before* now on account of his NL status - this just knocks him down a few more pegs on their totem pole. * Heard a call from a MFY on late-night talk radio yesterday wondering about why they got "this Bergman guy" who "can't hit at all". It was clear the caller had no clue as to who he was or his lengthy resume with Houston. Just some new guy off the scrap heap as far as he knew.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 09 2010 09:56 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Everyone relax and hold on to those playoff-ticket vouchers-- Sean Green's back in a hot minute.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 07:10 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

What I like about Sean Green is that he seems like throwback to the Art Howe era, in that he looks like a Met who really, really likes to get high. Young Sean:

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2010 08:35 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I was shocked to learn that Sean Green was actually a member of the 2010 Mets at one time. Shocked!

HahnSolo Aug 10 2010 09:50 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Frayed Knot wrote: * Heard a call from a MFY on late-night talk radio yesterday wondering about why they got "this Bergman guy" who "can't hit at all". It was clear the caller had no clue as to who he was or his lengthy resume with Houston. Just some new guy off the scrap heap as far as he knew. On the way home from work yesterday I put on FAN. I was only half-listening to Francesa drone on about the game. Then he starts talking about "Bergman"...he mentions the name about a half dozen times, and I'm thinking it's some shlub they must have called up from the minors before I realize he's talking about Lance Berkman. So it's not just the callers.

Ashie62 Aug 10 2010 02:20 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

In the Post today, Jason Bay aiming to return this season and hopes to be back in September. That must have been one helluva concussion. However, getting two months of Fmart may better serve the greater good.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 12:10 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Chipper Jones tore a something-or-other in his leg, and his season, and perhaps his career, may be over.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 12:11 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

No way I'm giving up on this season.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 12:20 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: No way I'm giving up on this season. I'm not either but I think I'm going to root for some other team.

TransMonk Aug 12 2010 12:54 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Chipper Jones tore a something-or-other in his leg, and his season, and perhaps his career, may be over. ACL. I feel for the dude. Most likely an abrupt ending to a Hall of Fame career.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:57 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

TransMonk wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Chipper Jones tore a something-or-other in his leg, and his season, and perhaps his career, may be over. ACL. I feel for the dude. Most likely an abrupt ending to a Hall of Fame career. Terrible news for him physically, but if it saves him the formality of retiring, he can stay on the DL next year and keep getting paid.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 01:30 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was shocked to learn that Sean Green was actually a member of the 2010 Mets at one time. Shocked! Sean Green's rehab time is over but the Mets are keeping him at Buffalo (as he had an option). Another victim of the Mets refusing to cut Oliver Perez.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 01:38 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

bmfc1 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was shocked to learn that Sean Green was actually a member of the 2010 Mets at one time. Shocked! Sean Green's rehab time is over but the Mets are keeping him at Buffalo (as he had an option). Another victim of the Mets refusing to cut Oliver Perez. Rod Barajas with a home run for the Gulf Coast Mets. I wonder if they keep Frankie on the restricted list one more day and send Iggy back down for Misch?

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 01:41 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

That's good thinking Ceetar. Or they could cut O. Perez.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 01:57 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

HahnSolo wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: * Heard a call from a MFY on late-night talk radio yesterday wondering about why they got "this Bergman guy" who "can't hit at all". It was clear the caller had no clue as to who he was or his lengthy resume with Houston. Just some new guy off the scrap heap as far as he knew. On the way home from work yesterday I put on FAN. I was only half-listening to Francesa drone on about the game. Then he starts talking about "Bergman"...he mentions the name about a half dozen times, and I'm thinking it's some shlub they must have called up from the minors before I realize he's talking about Lance Berkman. So it's not just the callers. MF just referred to Misch as "Lisch".

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:36 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

bmfc1 wrote: That's good thinking Ceetar. Or they could cut O. Perez. And pigs could fly. I was speaking of things that could actually happen.

TransMonk Aug 13 2010 04:04 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Chipper Jones tore a something-or-other in his leg, and his season, and perhaps his career, may be over. ACL. I feel for the dude. Most likely an abrupt ending to a Hall of Fame career. Terrible news for him physically, but if it saves him the formality of retiring, he can stay on the DL next year and keep getting paid. Per Yahoo! report: The 38-year-old Jones says now is not the right time to “make a decision to quit.” He says he will go through the rehab process before making a final decision on his future.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 02 2010 01:13 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

After missing just over a week with some knee funkiness, Justin Turner is back in Bisonry, and kicking into overdrive: .438/.486/.813(!) over his last ten games (35 PA, 3 HR, 6 XBH, 7 R, 7 BI). For the year, he's trip-slashing .315/.378/.482 in the minors while flittiing about the middle and corner infield.

Edgy DC Sep 29 2010 07:39 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Beltran to undergo MRI on sore right knee By Anthony DiComo / MLB.com | 09/28/10 11:06 PM ET NEW YORK -- Infusing some concern into this final homestand, Mets outfielder Carlos Beltran left Tuesday's game after five innings with right knee discomfort. Though he does not believe the injury is serious, Beltran, who underwent surgery on the same knee in January, will have an MRI Wednesday to determine its severity. "I don't feel like I have to worry," Beltran said. "The pain that I felt last year, it bothered me to walk. It bothered me to do everything. I've been walking here, and I don't feel that sensation." Reaching on an error in the fourth inning, Beltran felt pain for the first time as he led off first base. Though he played an additional inning in the field, Beltran alerted trainer Ray Ramirez to his condition shortly thereafter, prompting the Mets to remove him from the game. "I have to be smart about it," Beltran said. "I just can't go out there feeling like that. It's not right." There is reason for concern regarding Beltran, who underwent arthroscopic right knee surgery in January. Originally expected back by May, he did not wind up returning until the first game after the All-Star break. Since his return, Beltran has had no setbacks -- though he did sit out a game last month with tendinitis in his left knee -- a result of overcompensating during his recovery. Beltran, 33, also underwent surgery on both knees prior to the 2008 season. "This is the first time that we've really had an issue with that knee since he's been back," Mets manager Jerry Manuel said. "He's been pretty good for the most part." After struggling on both offense and defense upon his return, Beltran had finally begun hitting with consistency in September, entering Tuesday's play batting .364 with five home runs over his last 17 games. Now, his team may have to stall that momentum. With just six games remaining in the regular season, it seems unlikely that the Mets would allow Beltran to play again this year. But they will wait for the results of Wednesday's MRI before making any decisions. "Honestly, in my heart, I don't feel like I have to worry," Beltran said. "I felt something. I don't know what it is. But after being back and being able to play all these games, I didn't feel anything until today. So let's see what happens."

Ceetar Sep 29 2010 07:43 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

It's worrisome, but normal everyday healthy players do occasionally feel soreness and pain in their knees as well. MRI should be helpful. Hey, at least it happened now instead of January. Should get a pretty fair picture of what his knee looks like.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 29 2010 07:53 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

My knees hurt last night with all the humidity. Anyway, with Pagan away, Beltran hurt, and Feliciano PH for, Nick Evans played all 3 OF positions last nite. He can also play 3B and 1B, not a bad RH bat to have hanging around.

Ceetar Sep 29 2010 07:58 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My knees hurt last night with all the humidity. Anyway, with Pagan away, Beltran hurt, and Feliciano PH for, Nick Evans played all 3 OF positions last nite. He can also play 3B and 1B, not a bad RH bat to have hanging around. Let's work him out at 2B too. Next year we can have a Murphy Evans super utility platoon of doom!

Edgy DC Sep 29 2010 08:17 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Well, Ebbens is really only an emergency plan at third, so second is unlikely. But sure, think big.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2010 05:51 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Beltran MRI reveals inflammation, deemed not serious (by Mets, so grain of salt). He's been shut down, fifth Met who's season has ended in September. ATTRITION! Attrition!

Edgy DC Oct 21 2010 11:08 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I don't know if this belongs in a 2011 thread or what, but: Francisco Rodriguez (thumb) threw 20 pitches in a bullpen session with Tiburones de La Guaira on Wednesday. http://eluniversal.com/2010/10/20/tibur ... 3413.shtml

Ashie62 Oct 21 2010 11:25 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

20 pitches or punches?

TransMonk Oct 21 2010 12:44 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The K-Rod jokes are going to get old pretty quickly. After reading fan comments regarding K-Rod all over the interweb, I believe that with all of the fan dispondency that comes with what will obviously be a rebuilding year in 2011, one thing that folks better start wrapping their minds around right now is the fact that Frankie will be wearing Mets laundry next season...and possibly the one after that. Ugh.

Edgy DC Oct 21 2010 12:46 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Oh, I think they'll try to move him.

TransMonk Oct 21 2010 12:51 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

They can try...

batmagadanleadoff Oct 21 2010 12:54 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

There's no way I'd let K-Rod finish enough games for his 2012 $17.5M contract to vest. Wouldn't happen on my watch.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2010 01:01 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

I agree. But you have to be very careful to do it in a way that won't raise the hackles of the Players Association. I think I'd do it by giving the closer's job to somebody else as soon as it's feasible. Especially if 2011 turns out, as seems pretty likely, to be a non-contending season.

Ashie62 Oct 21 2010 01:03 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I agree. But you have to be very careful to do it in a way that won't raise the hackles of the Players Association. I think I'd do it by giving the closer's job to somebody else as soon as it's feasible. Especially if 2011 turns out, as seems pretty likely, to be a non-contending season. But we have Jason Bay, Carlos Beltran & Jose Reyes for the full year.

Edgy DC Oct 21 2010 01:06 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

We've got to get away from even the notion that contention is linked to Francisco Rodriguez getting save opportunities. The bullpen was fine and dandy after he left last year, and I'd bet on a closing tandem of Parnell and Takahashi over Rodriguez seven days a week. Perez being in the bullpen didn't hurt the team. Rodriguez being gone didn't hurt the team. What the bullpen needs is more offense and less Jerry. They're halfway there.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2010 01:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Edgy DC wrote: We've got to get away from even the notion that contention is linked to Francisco Rodriguez getting save opportunities. Oh, I'm with you on that. I'm just not expecting that Mets management will be.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2010 01:28 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

To elaborate on my point (such as it was), if the Mets are doing well and Rodriguez is pitching well, pulling him from the closer role will raise all kinds of red flags, I'd think. But if the team isn't contending, they can legitimately decide to try to groom Parnell, or Mejia, or whoever to be Frankie's successor. And I don't think the union would really be able to gripe about that.

Fman99 Oct 21 2010 09:21 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Seriously, what's to stop manager X and GM Y from slotting him as an 8th inning guy, in an attempt to keep his option from voiding? Pissing him off and risking a punch to the mouth? For all of his 62 saves and bluster, and routine, I don't think he brought anything as closer that Takasashi 2.0 doesn't bring you at 1/50th the attitude.

Edgy DC Oct 21 2010 09:58 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

The problem is that whether you sign or develop relievers, that attitude is part of what teams tend to pay for/nurture. I support shedding Rodriguez, but it's going to take a long hard deliberate look at the team's approach to the pen before any one move is going to rid them of attitude.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2010 10:18 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I agree. But you have to be very careful to do it in a way that won't raise the hackles of the Players Association. I think I'd do it by giving the closer's job to somebody else as soon as it's feasible. Especially if 2011 turns out, as seems pretty likely, to be a non-contending season. Yes. I wouldn't want to do anything that would compromise the Mets ability to contend for a playoff spot. I suppose that the Union would complain or even file a grievance after next season if they felt that the Mets used K-Rod in bad faith in order to avoid the 2012 $17.5M hit. I think that that case would (or should, actually)be tough for the Union to win; player usage is a discretionary team function and it shouldn't be up to an arbitrator to determine how a team utilizes its players. So long as the team can demonstrate any colorable or remotely plausible (emphasis should be on "remotely") explanation to justify player usage, the complaining player shouldn't have a strong case. But there's a slippery slope. The Mets would have to be total jackasses to lose a grievance for using K-rod in bad faith. (doubles as a straight man setup line here)

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2010 11:29 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

... player usage is a discretionary team function and it shouldn't be up to an arbitrator to determine how a team utilizes its players. So long as the team can demonstrate any colorable or remotely plausible (emphasis should be on "remotely") explanation to justify player usage, the complaining player shouldn't have a strong case. But there's a slippery slope. If a team showed a pattern over 2+ seasons of using a reliever almost exclusively in 9th or extra inning, game-leading situations and then all of a sudden stopped doing so for reasons that couldn't be explained by injury or effectiveness but could be explained by not wanting an option clause to kick in I think the union would have a pretty good case on its hands.

Edgy DC Oct 22 2010 11:34 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Here's the thing, though... legally, shouldn't teams have the right to deliberately and baldfacedly avoid triggering the option? I realize he had less juice, but isn't that exactly what releasing Alex Cora was about?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 22 2010 11:48 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Well, Cora was performing poorly enough that releasing him wouldn't alter the elevation of anyone's eyebrows. But let's say David Wright had a clause in his contract that he gets a $2 million bonus for 500 plate appearances. He's having a solid year, hitting .300 with about 25 homers, and then suddenly he's getting a lot of "rest". I think these performance clauses are given with the understanding that the team will act in good faith; that they'll play a guy who's producing and not alter his playing time solely due to the contract clauses.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2010 11:57 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Here's the thing, though... legally, shouldn't teams have the right to deliberately and baldfacedly avoid triggering the option? I realize he had less juice, but isn't that exactly what releasing Alex Cora was about? Lawyers get lots of money arguing about terms like "good faith" and the like. Cora, it could be argued, was among the last guys on the roster and well past his sell-by date when the Mets decided to go with Tejada in his spot. Tougher to make that claim if/when a 29 y/o reliever who has finished more than 80% of the games he's ever appeared in over an eight year career suddenly is denied finishing opportunities at a time which coincides with him being on the verge of reaching a high-paying threshold in a freely bargained contract.

Edgy DC Oct 22 2010 11:58 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

understanding that the team will act in good faith Team playing hardball: That may be your understanding. But if it's not written in paper, it wasn't my understanding. Cora was certainly having a bad year, but it's not like the Mets had a talented guy they had to add and a stretch run to power up for. He was released and they brought up Ruben Tejada, who didn't improve them a bit and wasn't expected to. He was released to dodge an option. No doubt.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2010 12:53 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

In every contract, it's implied that the parties will act in good faith, even if it's not specifically written into the contract. Still, teams ought to be accorded a great amount of deference in deciding how its players are used -- practically to the point where the team's practices are beyond question. The David Wright example is tougher, but in K-Rod's case, it should be easier for the Mets to purposely and by design, prevent him from reaching his vesting numbers. I say this because K-Rod is a relief pitcher. Where is it written that a reliever, even an effective reliever, must finish the game? In my opinion, the team would have to walk into the hearing and admit that they acted in bad faith in order to lose this hypothetical grievance that we're discussing. Either that, or the Union would need to get a hold of some internal memo documenting the Mets bad intent vis-a-vis K-Rod. And in that event, the Mets would be total jackasses for putting such a thing in writing.

Edgy DC Oct 22 2010 01:00 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Which, of course, we just did. WE'RE BLOWING IT FOR THE METS! But is there any doubt among any of us at all that Cora was released to dodge the vesting? Could there be any doubt at all? I wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't actually say, "Alex, we appreciate every effort you've given us, but seeing as how you haven't really been getting it done, it wouldn't be prudent of us to trigger that option year. I'm sure you can understand. We'd love to have you join our organization again, just not, you know, on those terms."

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2010 01:52 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Where is it written that a reliever, even an effective reliever, must finish the game? In my opinion, the team would have to walk into the hearing and admit that they acted in bad faith in order to lose this hypothetical grievance that we're discussing. Either that, or the Union would need to get a hold of some internal memo documenting the Mets bad intent vis-a-vis K-Rod. Nowhere. But I also think that a sudden departure from an established 8-year pattern (3 with this particular team) that has no other apparent cause except for coinciding with the nearing of the threshold would give the union a helluvalotta ammo to the point where they'd likely be pretty confident of their case even absent incriminating memos or outright admissions. If I'm the union I'm arguing that the signing of the player, from his track record leading up to the contract, to the reason & timing they did so (Wagner injury), to the money they paid (clearly not set-up cash) was with the idea that he'd be the closer and that the inclusion of that option and the clauses that triggered them (health & frequency) were to insure the team against him no longer being effective or sound enough four years out. I'd then say that the non-inclusion of such an option would have been a deal-breaker at the time and to simply yank it away from him via whim or buyer's regret would show that bad faith on the club's half for including in the first place.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 23 2010 11:49 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Frayed Knot wrote: Where is it written that a reliever, even an effective reliever, must finish the game? In my opinion, the team would have to walk into the hearing and admit that they acted in bad faith in order to lose this hypothetical grievance that we're discussing. Either that, or the Union would need to get a hold of some internal memo documenting the Mets bad intent vis-a-vis K-Rod. Nowhere. But I also think that a sudden departure from an established 8-year pattern (3 with this particular team) that has no other apparent cause except for coinciding with the nearing of the threshold would give the union a helluvalotta ammo to the point where they'd likely be pretty confident of their case even absent incriminating memos or outright admissions. If I'm the union I'm arguing that the signing of the player, from his track record leading up to the contract, to the reason & timing they did so (Wagner injury), to the money they paid (clearly not set-up cash) was with the idea that he'd be the closer and that the inclusion of that option and the clauses that triggered them (health & frequency) were to insure the team against him no longer being effective or sound enough four years out. I'd then say that the non-inclusion of such an option would have been a deal-breaker at the time and to simply yank it away from him via whim or buyer's regret would show that bad faith on the club's half for including in the first place. If I was the arbitrator hearing your arguments, I'd throw your case out the window and out of my courtroom. Besides, you don't even know what Wayne Hagin looks like.

Frayed Knot Oct 23 2010 03:58 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

If I was the arbitrator hearing your arguments, I'd throw your case out the window and out of my courtroom. Because you really don't believe in the legitimacy of the argument or because it doesn't fit your hoped-for outcome? Don't bother, I think we both know the answer to that already. And look, it's not like I'm rooting for the option to kick in or anything. I just don't share the optimism some of you share in thinking that it's going to be simple to side-step.* * Maybe this topic should be split-off and some of the legal beagles on this site can chime in.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 24 2010 11:33 AM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Frayed Knot wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: If I was the arbitrator hearing your arguments, I'd throw your case out the window and out of my courtroom. Because you really don't believe in the legitimacy of the argument or because it doesn't fit your hoped-for outcome? Don't bother, I think we both know the answer to that already. And look, it's not like I'm rooting for the option to kick in or anything. I just don't share the optimism some of you share in thinking that it's going to be simple to side-step. Well …. first of all, if I’m the arbitrator, I get to rule on the grievance and make the final decision. Therefore, I don’t need to ”hope for any outcome”. I don’t agree with your position because your arguments require that I (as the hypothetical arbitrator) question the Mets strategy and usage of K-Rod. I don’t believe that an arbitrator should second guess team tactics other than, perhaps, in the most egregious and outrageous instances of bad faith. Your post implies that K-Rod is entitled to close (or finish) Mets games. But isn’t this discretionary? Shouldn’t the team have the unrestricted freedom to decide for itself how best to use K-Rod without fear of being second-guessed by an arbitrator? Should a baseball arbitrator pass judgment on these matters? Is this good for baseball? I would never consider questioning the fact that K-Rod’s 8th inning appearances increased, or that he was no longer being used to get the easy three-run-lead saves, or that he was pitching the 9th inning on a shorter leash and suddenly more prone than in the past to being yanked for, say, walking the first two batters he faced – even though all of these patterns of use would no doubt decrease his chances of finishing games. I don’t think that it’s the province of an arbitrator to pry into these matters and I would hope that a real arbitrator would exercise great restraint should this issue or a similar one come before him. All of the above patterns of usage are plausible baseball strategies, and can be justified even if the team’s real underlying motive is to diminish the number of games K-rod finishes.. To allow an arbitrator to question these patterns would essentially be empowering an arbitrator to determine the strategy that a team ought to be using -- under threat of financial penalties. This, to me, is overly intrusive. For me to find bad faith in this hypothetical, I would insist on what would amount to an admission of wrongdoing from the team or a smoking gun. I said that I might question team tactics in the most egregious or outrageous instances. To me, this would mean something like K-Rod rotting on the bench Ollie-style even though he’s in good health and otherwise able. I think that a player who contracts for this type of incentive clause should know and otherwise assume the risk that his playing time is a function of his team’s discretion and that a baseball arbitrator will not question or second-guess his team’s decisions so long as those decisions are the teentsy-weentsiest bit plausible. You also wrote that it wouldn’t be so easy for a team to “side-step” this matter and I tend to agree with you. Even though, as an arbitrator, I would create a standard that would make it virtually impossible for a grieving player to meet, the team still has to create the appearance that it is trying to win ballgames --- not necessarily to succeed in my courtroom, but to avoid turmoil in its own clubhouse and with its fan base. So while I wouldn’t question that K-Rod’s 8th inning appearances increased significantly, his teammates might question this tactic. Management surely wouldn’t want its own team to think the Mets were sacrificing competitiveness in order to avoid a large contract.

Frayed Knot Oct 24 2010 01:19 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Your post implies that K-Rod is entitled to close (or finish) Mets games. No, I'm saying that because he has closed games his entire career, was signed by the Mets as a closer, is being paid like a closer, and the club put in an option in the current deal saying that the three year deal becomes a four year as long as he is healthy enough and still effective enough in that role, that a sudden departure from that use just as the vesting threshold approaches would make it tough to view the change as anything other than a move designed solely to make sure the option was never reached. I would shirley see it that way.

Edgy DC Nov 26 2010 08:06 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Murph gets a break November, 26, 2010 Nov 26 10:17 AM By Adam Rubin There is no cause for alarm with Daniel Murphy being out of Aguilas' lineup in the Dominican Republic since Tuesday, according to the winter-league team's GM, Luichy Sanchez. "Murphy has tired legs," Sanchez told ESPN's Enrique Rojas. "Aguilas and Metstrainers agree he needs five consecutive days resting. Murphy will be back Tuesday. He doesn't have injuries -- only fatigue -- because he played all of Aguilas' games. He's the most consistent Aguilas player this season in all ways." Murphy, who very well could end up the Mets' Opening Day second baseman, "will be an important to us next season," according to one member of the Mets' braintrust. He is hitting .320 with four homers and 22 RBIs in 103 at-bats over 28 games games with Aguilas. AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS .320 28 103 9 33 6 1 4 22 53 13 11 5 1 .395 .515 .910 I wonder if Chrs Aguila ever played for Aguilas.

MFS62 Nov 26 2010 08:29 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Can't find a link for it, but earlier today, both WFAN and ESPN (NY) were saying that Fernando Martinez injured his leg (knee?) and has been shut down for Winter Ball. He's beginning to have an Alex Escobar "snake bit" feel about him. Later

Ashie62 Nov 26 2010 08:38 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Out after one game in the Dominican league with a leg injury. Hope to be back be April. [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=MLB&id=4242&line=309187&spln=1

Edgy DC Nov 30 2010 02:55 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Mets receive dose of good news on ailing trio By Anthony DiComo / MLB.com | 11/30/10 3:02 PM EST NEW YORK -- Medical examinations of three Mets players revealed no major injuries, the team announced on Tuesday. Infielder Daniel Murphy, outfielder Fernando Martinez and utility man Nick Evans were all examined Monday by team physician Dr. Struan Coleman, and all received relatively good news. An MRI revealed that Murphy, who was hitting .320 in winter ball before his injury, suffered a mild left hamstring strain with no loss of motion or strength in the leg. Murphy, a candidate for the starting second-base job next season, will rehab his hamstring and resume baseball activities as tolerated. Martinez, who recently felt pain running to first base in winter ball, has a case of mild arthritis in his right knee, according to an MRI. He will wear a brace and continue to strengthen his knee before resuming baseball activities. Evans, who has spent his offseason rehabbing the left shoulder strain he suffered at the end of September, has been swinging a bat pain-free and has suffered no setbacks. He will progress with baseball activities "as tolerated," the team said. Anthony DiComo is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @AnthonyDicomo This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. "as tolerated" = the new "day to day"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 30 2010 03:26 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

"Prevention and Recovery" : 2010 :: "Prevention and Suck It Up, Nancy" : 2011 ?

G-Fafif Nov 30 2010 04:39 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

"Prevention and Recovery" : 2010 :: "Prevention and Suck It Up, Nancy" : 2011 ? Suck it up Nancy... Suck it up! [clap clap] Suck it up Nancy... Suck it up! [clap clap]

Ashie62 Nov 30 2010 04:42 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

"Prevention and Recovery" : 2010 :: "Prevention and Suck It Up, Nancy" : 2011 ? Suck it up Nancy... Suck it up! [clap clap] Suck it up Nancy... Suck it up! [clap clap] Shes a very kinky girl

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2010 02:06 PM Re: Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

Jason Bay talks about his head owie and some other dings. "It wasn't a lot of the vertigo and the dizziness and the nausea," Bay said at the Mets' holiday party Tuesday at Citi Field. "It was just a low-grade headache." As a matter of fact, it turned out he didn't have a concussion at all; he had just been listening to a toxic amount of Fox Saturday games.