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Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2009 02:57 PM

JoseJoseJoseJose sat down for a one-hour talk with Francesa, acquitting himself quite well, it seems. Some highlights, courtesy of Metsblog's live blog: -- Reyes says he feels no pain, and will be ready by Opening Day. -- He said last season was ‘hard,’ because, ‘I’m the guy who loves this team and loves playing the game and being with my teammates.’ He said he did everything possible to be back on field. -- Initially, Reyes thought he would only need one day off, when the team traveled to San Francisco; he said he got a cortisone shot in Los Angeles, who said he would be able to play not longer after. -- Reyes said he is aware of this report in the New York Times, accusing his Canadian doctor of being involved in HGH. According to Reyes, he only received plasma treatment from the accused doctor, ‘that is all,’ he did not receive any drugs, including HGH. -- Reyes said, ‘I love Jerry Manuel, he’s a great guy, when you do something wrong he comes to you and explains to you what you did.’ -- He seemed genuinely shocked at rumors that he did not get along with Willie Randolph, who Reyes referred to as a ‘father figure, who only wanted the best for me.’ He said Randolph did ‘the right thing,’ when he pulled Reyes from a game for not running hard to first base in 2007. I was behind Willie 100 percent,” he concluded. -- Reyes says every team in the big leagues does handshakes like he does with his teammates. He does it to keep the energy up with this teammates, adding, “I try to keep it fun.” He said he doesn’t do it to bother the other team, he does it for the Mets. He says he has no interest in changing who he is. -- He said the Mets did a great job last season trying to get him back on the field. He, the team and their doctors never once thought he had a calf injury last season, he explained; it was the Dodgers doctor who diagnosed it as a calf injury, he said. -- Reyes said at no point last season, during his rehab, did he feel he was able to get back on the field; the pain was too much; and, if he could have been back, he would have been back. He said he even tried to come back for the final three games of the season, but ended up hurting himself again. -- He says he enjoys watching Hanley Ramirez, who is a very good friend of his; Dustin Pedroia, who he said plays hard; and Derek Jeter, saying, “I love the way he goes about his business.” In the minors, he said he initially wanted to model his game after Jeter. -- Reyes said he used to crush Jon Leiber, when asked to name a pitcher he always had success against; while it is very difficult to face A.J. Burnett, against whom he does not have a hit. He said he loves to hit in Philadelphia’s Citizen’s Bank Park. -- Reyes did not like seeing the Phillies win a World Series in 2007. He doesn’t understand why the Phillies pick on him, and his antics, when Shane Victorino does the same thing. “They win the World Series, and they’re talking about us, they say, ‘They get Santana, and don’t even win.’ He acknowledged, with a huge smile on his face, that the Phillies do not like him. -- “When we lose I get angry,” he said. “I talk to nobody.”

Edgy DC Dec 16 2009 03:06 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

Great report.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2009 03:33 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

How ready are you to fall back in love with the kid? He's right about Lieber (1.357 OPS in 28 plate appearances, best against any pitcher he's faced more than 20 times); he's done almost as well against Kyle Davies in the same number of PA, and he's hammered Matt Cain (1.861 OPS/17 PA) and Jo-Jo Reyes (2.633/10) in more limited samples. Also right about Burnett, going 0-17 in 17 PA (no walks against THIS guy?). Weirdly, he's also oh-fer against Chan Ho Park (0-11, specifically).

G-Fafif Dec 16 2009 03:47 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

I thought he did real well for someone who generally has trouble with the English language. Reyes did a nice job, too.

bmfc1 Dec 16 2009 04:02 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

BA-ZINGA! BOC for G-Fafif.

metirish Dec 16 2009 04:05 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":36ojxsgb]How ready are you to fall back in love with the kid? .[/quote:36ojxsgb] I have a boner just reading that...... seriously , I am very ready

G-Fafif Dec 16 2009 04:09 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="metirish"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]How ready are you to fall back in love with the kid?

I have a boner just reading that...... seriously , I am very ready

I was in the team store at Citi Field in September and got very verklempt at the sight of REYES 7 t-shirts with the inaugural season Rotunda patch (on sale). We hadn't seen him wear one in a game in four months and all at once it really felt like he'd been missing. Man, I can't wait to get him back.

Maybe not as demonstrably as Irish, but I'm excited in my own way.

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2009 05:54 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="G-Fafif":de92zajp]I thought he did real well for someone who generally has trouble with the English language. Reyes did a nice job, too.[/quote:de92zajp] That would have worked even better had Russo still been manning the airwaves - but still a nice one.

Kong76 Dec 16 2009 06:04 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

G-F: I thought he did real well for someone who generally has trouble with the English language. Reyes did a nice job, too. <<< LOfnL ... how do ya work that =#FF0000]! thingie?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2009 06:44 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="G-Fafif":3my4rhcj]I thought he did real well for someone who generally has trouble with the English language.[/quote:3my4rhcj] THAT must explain why he didn't mention anything about lobbying to trade the guy for Halladay, Crawford or Brandon INNJJE.

Edgy DC Dec 16 2009 08:31 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes says he feels no pain, and will be ready by Opening Day.

Better be. Better be sooner, in fact, but good news. Nobody wants you to hurt except Ashie, kid.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- He said last season was ‘hard,’ because, ‘I’m the guy who loves this team and loves playing the game and being with my teammates.’ He said he did everything possible to be back on field.
I thought that was me.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Initially, Reyes thought he would only need one day off, when the team traveled to San Francisco; he said he got a cortisone shot in Los Angeles, who said he would be able to play not longer after.
Here's to the end of the longest day-to-day ever. But I won't mind if the bitch-fight between the Mets and Dodgers lasts forever.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes said he is aware of this report in the New York Times, accusing his Canadian doctor of being involved in HGH. According to Reyes, he only received plasma treatment from the accused doctor, ‘that is all,’ he did not receive any drugs, including HGH.
If I had heard this, I must have forgotten. I can't see how, though. It's almost like my mind would have to be deliberately programmed to delete any information linking Jose Reyes or David Wright to PEDs. Wait... what were we talking about?

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes said, ‘I love Jerry Manuel, he’s a great guy, when you do something wrong he comes to you and explains to you what you did.’
Um, do less wrong stuff.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- He seemed genuinely shocked at rumors that he did not get along with Willie Randolph, who Reyes referred to as a ‘father figure, who only wanted the best for me.’ He said Randolph did ‘the right thing,’ when he pulled Reyes from a game for not running hard to first base in 2007. I was behind Willie 100 percent,” he concluded.
I believe this wholeheartedly. I think most every good manager shapes a player to be the on-field embodiment of his values --- a player young enough to shape, but good enough to draw other players to imitate him. Stengel couldn't do this with the willful Mantle, but could and did with Yogi. Hodges did with Seaver. Torre did it with Jeter as he tried to do earlier in his career with Mazzilli. Valentine did it with Alfonzo.

Where Randolph miscalculated was that Reyes couldn't be the guy that led them as the paragon of Randolph's baseball virtue and simultaneously be the guy who leads them with his free spirit. He needs to be self-aware to be the former and needs to be at least a little reckless to be the latter. Randolph might have been better leaning on Wright this way, but I think he always was a little too focused on his brother middle infielders.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes says every team in the big leagues does handshakes like he does with his teammates. He does it to keep the energy up with this teammates, adding, “I try to keep it fun.” He said he doesn’t do it to bother the other team, he does it for the Mets. He says he has no interest in changing who he is.
True, true, and bite me, Nati(o)nals, it's true.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- He said the Mets did a great job last season trying to get him back on the field. He, the team and their doctors never once thought he had a calf injury last season, he explained; it was the Dodgers doctor who diagnosed it as a calf injury, he said.
Well, if you "never" believed the diagnosis, and nobody did, why was it an issue?

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes said at no point last season, during his rehab, did he feel he was able to get back on the field; the pain was too much; and, if he could have been back, he would have been back. He said he even tried to come back for the final three games of the season, but ended up hurting himself again.
OK, so now we know everything went wrong.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- He says he enjoys watching Hanley Ramirez, who is a very good friend of his; Dustin Pedroia, who he said plays hard; and Derek Jeter, saying, “I love the way he goes about his business.” In the minors, he said he initially wanted to model his game after Jeter.
Wow, he and Hanley are Jeter and A-Rod, the second generation. Give them a reality show.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes said he used to crush Jon Leiber, when asked to name a pitcher he always had success against; while it is very difficult to face A.J. Burnett, against whom he does not have a hit. He said he loves to hit in Philadelphia’s Citizen’s Bank Park.
First guy to play the mole at a Phillies site, convincing them to sign Lieber, gets a head first slide from the Fman.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- Reyes did not like seeing the Phillies win a World Series in 2007. He doesn’t understand why the Phillies pick on him, and his antics, when Shane Victorino does the same thing. “They win the World Series, and they’re talking about us, they say, ‘They get Santana, and don’t even win.’ He acknowledged, with a huge smile on his face, that the Phillies do not like him.
It's because you're beautiful.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]-- “When we lose I get angry,” he said. “I talk to nobody.”
As long as you don't start bragging about yelling at Jay Witasick, that's fine.

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2009 09:24 PM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

From another website (OK, it's MBTN): I made the mistake of listening to WFAN while I moved the car last night and was blown away by the fire of stupidity Mike Francessa was stoking among fans competing with one another to be the most wounded by the news that the Phillies were to acquire Roy Halladay (at the cost of Cliff Lee, a multiyear, multimillion extension and some prospects) and the Red Sox had signed John Lackey for five years and $85 million. Ira on the Car Phone announced his intention to stay away from CitiField forever and demanded the Mets part with Jose Reyes (cuz we need less offense) while Francessa just let him talk. I've been listening to very little FAN talk lately - mostly for a few minutes late at night - but the guy who's been particularly egregious at licking the wounds and stoking the whiners to do the same has been overnight yapper Tony Paige. It's like he's stuck the wet finger in the air to pick up on the trend of the day and is running with the prevailing breeze, probably figuring it'll land him a sub-culture of loyal callers. For a guy who I rarely thought anything about over the years he's either really turned into a real ass lately or maybe he's always been one and I'm just now noticing.

MFS62 Dec 17 2009 07:42 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="Frayed Knot":1qvg73f5] I've been listening to very little FAN talk lately - mostly for a few minutes late at night - but the guy who's been particularly egregious at licking the wounds and stoking the whiners to do the same has been overnight yapper Tony Paige. ... For a guy who I rarely thought anything about over the years he's either really turned into a real ass lately or maybe he's always been one and I'm just now noticing.[/quote:1qvg73f5] Well if HE bothers you, don't flip the dial to ESPN radio at night. After listening to him the past few nights, I've wanted to call the host -Bill Daughtry - and tell him that he is an example of why Mets fans rooted for the Phillies in the last WS. He is a revolting Mets hater, who loves making fun of the recent moves and non-moves. For the last few nights, he has bashed the Mets farm system. Then, when someone called him up and told him about the prospects, he said, reluctantly, "Well, I'll give you Ike Davis". Then, the next few nights, when a Yankee fan called to rap the farm syatem, he would mention Ike, like he was leaking this "best kept secret" of the system. Ugh. Later

Frayed Knot Dec 17 2009 08:42 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

I remember Daughtry's name from his time on WFAN a whole bunch of years back but don't really remember much about his loyalties or whatever. I had the idea he was from the Philly area (although maybe that's not right) but I'm pretty sure he worked there between various stints in NYC. I do remember hearing a story that involved him leaving Philly station for New York (or the other way around) due to getting bounced for either suspected or actual drug use. As far as who a media type roots for, I rarely care and actually think it's better if someone either doesn't care or manages to conceal his personal biases. My problem with Paige isn't that he's anti-Met (he's not) it's that he engages in the lowest form of intellectual "analysis" either because he's too intellectually stupid to do otherwise or because he thinks that's the best road to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

metirish Dec 17 2009 09:06 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

Bill Daughtry , now there's a name I've not seen in a few years. I remember him form his MSG days , a very unremarkable man.

Edgy DC Dec 17 2009 09:12 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

Isn't he that barber at the Army base that lives next door to Hank Hill?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 17 2009 10:40 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

Paige is better at breaking down boxing. With baseball, football, basketball and most other sports, the level of analysis is about what you'd expect of the average FAN caller... so I suppose the show works. [quote="Metirish":394p1n8f]Bill Daughtry , now there's a name I've not seen in a few years. I remember him form his MSG days , a very unremarkable man.[/quote:394p1n8f] So, what you're saying is, you remember him for being unmemorable?

metirish Dec 17 2009 10:43 AM Re: Chewing the Fat (Hot Stove Radio)

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":bj3j83f7]Paige is better at breaking down boxing. With baseball, football, basketball and most other sports, the level of analysis is about what you'd expect of the average FAN caller... so I suppose the show works. [quote="Metirish":bj3j83f7]Bill Daughtry , now there's a name I've not seen in a few years. I remember him form his MSG days , a very unremarkable man.[/quote:bj3j83f7] So, what you're saying is, you remember him for being unmemorable?[/quote:bj3j83f7] LOL...I suppose you are correct......he used to be horrible as a stand in announcer for the Knicks.....