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mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 29 2009 11:44 AM

for what its worth. Internet aflame.

Ashie62 Dec 29 2009 11:45 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

We shall see

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 11:51 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2oxu4jk7]for what its worth. Internet aflame.[/quote:2oxu4jk7] Aflame? Not another Met denying he is gay, is it?

Ashie62 Dec 29 2009 11:53 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

My official guess is Vladimir Guerrero is a Met

metirish Dec 29 2009 11:59 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

It's got to be something to do with the 'Fan or SNY type news.....

attgig Dec 29 2009 12:00 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

wow he's annoying talking about the colts/jets... i shouldn't have started listening early.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 12:04 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Derek Jeter has agreed to give the Mets intangibles tutoring during the off season...

soupcan Dec 29 2009 12:07 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I'm going to guess that the news is that the Mets have increased their offer to Bay.

soupcan Dec 29 2009 12:07 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="attgig":piazmo5s]wow he's annoying talking about the colts/jets... i shouldn't have started listening early.[/quote:piazmo5s] Yeah - he's crazy today.

seawolf17 Dec 29 2009 12:08 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="soupcan":3hwu4cav][quote="attgig":3hwu4cav]wow he's annoying talking about the colts/jets... i shouldn't have started listening early.[/quote:3hwu4cav] Yeah - he's crazy today.[/quote:3hwu4cav] Off the deep end crazy. Just relax, dude. You're not a small guy; you're going to give yourself a coronary yelling about Rex Ryan. Really, who cares?

Ashie62 Dec 29 2009 12:10 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Bay is a Met

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 12:10 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="seawolf17":2czytc97] Off the deep end crazy. Just relax, dude. You're not a small guy; you're going to give yourself a coronary yelling about Rex Ryan.[/quote:2czytc97] On second thought... keep on keepin' on! (BTW: Details, please, when they're available? Some of us can't go internet-radio in the office.)

attgig Dec 29 2009 12:11 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

molina wants 3, mets are still at 1 + option early next week signing of bay.....pending physical according to him

metirish Dec 29 2009 12:11 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

You know he's just making this shit up......

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2009 12:12 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 29 2009 12:14 PM

and the announcement iiiiiiiissssssss [drum roll] ... 1) Molina still holding out for a 3rd year - still quite a ways apart 2) Bay signing will be official by next week - physicals pending etc.

soupcan Dec 29 2009 12:13 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3rl93omr][quote="seawolf17":3rl93omr] Off the deep end crazy. Just relax, dude. You're not a small guy; you're going to give yourself a coronary yelling about Rex Ryan.[/quote:3rl93omr] On second thought... keep on keepin' on! (BTW: Details, please, when they're available? Some of us can't go internet-radio in the office.)[/quote:3rl93omr] He's seriously going to bust an artery over Ryan wondering why the Jets aren't being given any credit for beating the Colts. "YOUR TEAM IS A CHARITY CASE!!!" You can almost see the spittle flying out of his mouth. It is very entertaining.

attgig Dec 29 2009 12:13 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

well, I guess that means that the mets won't bend over backwards for molina.... that's one positive....

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 12:15 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Hey, if it gets over a dozen uses browsing the forum, go Francessa!

Gwreck Dec 29 2009 12:16 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Bo-ring. Wanted good news, ie. Jerry fired; Omar fired; Dave Howard eaten by shark, etc...

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 12:17 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

You realize that by "breaking" news of a deal imminent (a week off, but imminent), he's setting the Mets up, right?

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 12:18 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I guess Bay realized that Beruit wasn't going to get that expansion franchise after all.

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2009 12:19 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I guess that means that the mets won't bend over backwards for molina.... that's one positive... Both halves of that are positive as far as I'm concerned (with the usual caveat of the price for Bay not being too high) It's also a lot more info than I expected. Even considering that nothing he said is fact at this point, I didn't even expect it to be anything about players. All of which leads me to wonder how and where he got his info and why he felt so confident sitting on it for nearly 24 hours. What it adds up to, IMO, is a bone thrown to him by Omar personally.

HahnSolo Dec 29 2009 12:21 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I don't like Francesa, but he and Omar are close (or so Mike says). So I would guess that's his source.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 12:22 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Frayed Knot"] I guess that means that the mets won't bend over backwards for molina.... that's one positive... Both halves of that are positive as far as I'm concerned (with the usual caveat of the price for Bay not being too high) It's also a lot more info than I expected. Even considering that nothing he said is fact at this point, I didn't even expect it to be anything about players. All of which leads me to wonder how and where he got his info and why he felt so confident sitting on it for nearly 24 hours. What it adds up to, IMO, is a bone thrown to him by Omar personally.

That HAS to be it.

And hell, if leaks are all Omar does to buy himself support from the town loudmouth (as opposed to throwing money around unwisely), I'll take that ten times out of ten.

soupcan Dec 29 2009 12:27 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

But don't you think if he got his 'sccop' directly from the horses mouth he would have made a bigger deal about it? Yeah - he promo'd that he'd have news but kinda just shrugged it off when he finally got around to it and went right back to football. Odd.

metirish Dec 29 2009 12:35 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I guess he will claim that he scooped them all with the news.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 12:40 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="soupcan":11nvgwpw]But don't you think if he got his 'sccop' directly from the horses mouth he would have made a bigger deal about it? Yeah - he promo'd that he'd have news but kinda just shrugged it off when he finally got around to it and went right back to football. Odd.[/quote:11nvgwpw] It's because-- given a choice-- he'd rather YELL and be right than just be right.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 12:43 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Facbook Conspiracy Theorist Anthony O.":1lko5hsq]wait so this deal is unofficially revealed before the extended plan deadline but not officially announced until after...[/quote:1lko5hsq]

Farmer Ted Dec 29 2009 12:45 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Hoe did FranFatso trump Rosenthal, Heyman, et al in this story? Weird.

G-Fafif Dec 29 2009 12:46 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

If Bay isn't a Met, what will Francesa's excuse be? The physical? Some nebulous eleventh-hour offer from somewhere else? That it was Rex Ryan's fault? Or will he just insist, "I NEVER SAID BAY WAS COMING TO THE METS!"

metirish Dec 29 2009 12:47 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="G-Fafif":1t3qocm9]If Bay isn't a Met, what will Francesa's excuse be? The physical? Some nebulous eleventh-hour offer from somewhere else? That it was Rex Ryan's fault? Or will he just insist, "I NEVER SAID BAY WAS COMING TO THE METS!"[/quote:1t3qocm9] A whole lot of hanging up will occur..

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 12:48 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

He'll say that stupid suck ass Mets had an agreement and dropped the ball. He'll make it out as the worst disgrace in the history of sports management and fans will buy it and he'll be in the clear.

metirish Dec 29 2009 12:48 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Heyman The Mets have reached a deal to bring All-Star outfielder Jason Bay to New York pending a physical, SI.com confirmed. The news was first repoprted by Mike Francesa of WFAN, who added that the announcement will come early next wee

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 12:53 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

A bunch of media outlets are now reporting this as well, but always, it seems, with the "according to WFAN" caveat. (Heyman's tweet may be the first exception to that.) I guess it's likely true, but I won't really believe it until it's confirmed independently.

Valadius Dec 29 2009 12:54 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I hoped this would happen. This is good news.

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2009 12:56 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 29 2009 12:58 PM

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="Frayed Knot"] I guess that means that the mets won't bend over backwards for molina.... that's one positive... Both halves of that are positive as far as I'm concerned (with the usual caveat of the price for Bay not being too high) It's also a lot more info than I expected. Even considering that nothing he said is fact at this point, I didn't even expect it to be anything about players. All of which leads me to wonder how and where he got his info and why he felt so confident sitting on it for nearly 24 hours. What it adds up to, IMO, is a bone thrown to him by Omar personally.

That HAS to be it.

And hell, if leaks are all Omar does to buy himself support from the town loudmouth (as opposed to throwing money around unwisely), I'll take that ten times out of ten.


The interesting part is how he was so confident that the agent/player half of the deal wasn't going to leak things out.

And now Heyman, who works for WFAN as well as SI, is confirming the story while crediting Big Mike & FAN (which only goes to show that he doesn't work for ESPN who'll take credit for almost anything since the Lindy landing). The almost instant timing of Heyman's story indicates that he was sitting on this for whatever reason.

I'm finding the machinations of this story almost as interesting as the info itself.

Ashie62 Dec 29 2009 12:57 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Edgy DC":2azwg1pj]You realize that by "breaking" news of a deal imminent (a week off, but imminent), he's setting the Mets up, right?[/quote:2azwg1pj] No doubt...

metirish Dec 29 2009 01:00 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

North Jersey.com The Mets have reached an agreement with free-agent outfielder Jason Bay, WFAN host Mike Francesa said on his radio show Tuesday afternoon. The New York Post reported that the deal is for four years and $66 million with a vesting option for a fifth year. Bay would have to pass a physical before the deal is complete. With offices closed for the holiday week, an announcement isn't expected until sometime next week.

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2009 01:01 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

That's more money than he deserves, IMO, but whatyagonnado?

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 01:03 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Yeah, he's being overpaid but perhaps not horribly so. He may be tradeable in year three or four if the Mets come across a younger cheaper option. Now they need to get a starting pitcher or two. My guess is they'll turn their attention to Piniero now. (The other possibility is that they renew their efforts to trade Castillo and sign Hudson. I prefer the pitching scenario.)

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 01:03 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

![/bigpurple]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 01:05 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

SEE MY VEST!

attgig Dec 29 2009 01:07 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

vest! indeed!!! It better not be based on games played... hopefully it's an MVP that vests it... something similar to what delgado had...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 01:10 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="attgig":65n6zdwp]vest! indeed!!! It better not be based on games played... hopefully it's an MVP that vests it... something similar to what delgado had...[/quote:65n6zdwp] Scuttlebutt's that the vesting target's an easy-to-reach one. Guh.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 01:11 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

"Scuttlebutt"? Is that what they're calling Francessa now?

Ashie62 Dec 29 2009 01:11 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

In Bay we vest

G-Fafif Dec 29 2009 01:20 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

The vest years of our lives.

Fman99 Dec 29 2009 01:20 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Well slap my ass, the Mets went out and got a real live ballplayer. I approve, heartily.

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 01:22 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Fman99":2iv5jkhk]Well slap my ass, the Mets went out and got a real live ballplayer. I approve, heartily.[/quote:2iv5jkhk] You don't care about Bay, you just want somebody to slap your ass.

Fman99 Dec 29 2009 01:32 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Swan Swan H":ebhkgebw][quote="Fman99":ebhkgebw]Well slap my ass, the Mets went out and got a real live ballplayer. I approve, heartily.[/quote:ebhkgebw] You don't care about Bay, you just want somebody to slap your ass.[/quote:ebhkgebw] So either step up to the plate, or get out of the way.

Fman99 Dec 29 2009 01:33 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="soupcan":15vlperr][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":15vlperr] On second thought... keep on keepin' on! (BTW: Details, please, when they're available? Some of us can't go internet-radio in the office.)[/quote:15vlperr] He's seriously going to bust an artery over Ryan wondering why the Jets aren't being given any credit for beating the Colts. "YOUR TEAM IS A CHARITY CASE!!!" You can almost see the spittle flying out of his mouth. It is very entertaining.[/quote:15vlperr] It wouldn't be spittle, it would be entirely unchewed chunks of meat and cheese.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 01:35 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

The Times is reporting that the deal was confirmed "by a major league executive who did not want his name used because the deal was not yet official."

attgig Dec 29 2009 01:51 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

little picture that i'm sure espn made months ago...and were finally able to use... also, based on the final salary...i wish they went with holliday at the same offer as the cards, and just sat on it like they did with bay.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 01:55 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

They should have tried to find a picture of Bay looking resigned, or disappointed. Something other than that smile which, come to think of it, doesn't look all that genuine.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 01:57 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

There's speculation/rumblings that the Mets are part of a three-team deal with the Cubbies that would bring expensive -- but sometimes effective -- headcase Carlos Zambrano to the Mets.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 01:58 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

SEE MY VEST! SEE MY VEST! IT'S A MOST RELAX-ED TEST! I WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT A WILPON FOR MY OPTION NOT TO VEST!

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 01:59 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":3087g3ac]They should have tried to find a picture of Bay looking resigned, or disappointed. Something other than that smile which, come to think of it, doesn't look all that genuine.[/quote:3087g3ac] I think that smile is Canadian for "giddy." Wonder how many other Mets have come from North of the Border?

seawolf17 Dec 29 2009 02:02 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":cawwsgbc][quote="Benjamin Grimm":cawwsgbc]They should have tried to find a picture of Bay looking resigned, or disappointed. Something other than that smile which, come to think of it, doesn't look all that genuine.[/quote:cawwsgbc] I think that smile is Canadian for "giddy." Wonder how many other Mets have come from North of the Border?[/quote:cawwsgbc] Tim Harkness and Ron Taylor come to mind.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 02:14 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

There have been six Maple Leaf Mets, but none since 1973, if'n' you believe that nonsense. The last was Brian Ostrosser --- 0-5 in 1973. Canada's overdue to contribute to the great cause.

Valadius Dec 29 2009 02:20 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Edgy DC":34ns1m5l]There have been six Maple Leaf Mets, but none since 1973, if'n' you believe that nonsense. The last was Brian Ostrosser --- 0-5 in 1973. Canada's overdue to contribute to the great cause.[/quote:34ns1m5l] You're kidding me. Seems like there should be more, right?

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 02:22 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

There apparently is. His name is Bay.

seawolf17 Dec 29 2009 02:26 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Flushing, NY (AP) -- The New York Mets have placed outfielder Jason Bay on the 15-day disabled list with a strained hip flexor. Bay, who only a few hours earlier had agreed to a four-year, $66 million contract with the team, injured the hip holding the elevator for general manager Omar Minaya after their contract meeting. "It's certainly a disappointment," Bay said through his agent. "But I'm hoping that the surgery goes well, and I should be back on the field in time for the 2011 season." Minaya was not concerned. "It's certainly not what you want to see out of a guy you just signed, but we'll have our doctors take a look at it, and I'm sure Jason will be healthy soon." Minaya also noted that the Mets signed 46-year-old lefthanded pitcher Terry Mulholland, who hasn't pitched since 2006, to a guaranteed one-year deal.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 02:28 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Ha-ha-ha-ha-dick.

themetfairy Dec 29 2009 02:30 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="seawolf17"] Flushing, NY (AP) -- The New York Mets have placed outfielder Jason Bay on the 15-day disabled list with a strained hip flexor. Bay, who only a few hours earlier had agreed to a four-year, $66 million contract with the team, injured the hip holding the elevator for general manager Omar Minaya after their contract meeting. "It's certainly a disappointment," Bay said through his agent. "But I'm hoping that the surgery goes well, and I should be back on the field in time for the 2011 season." Minaya was not concerned. "It's certainly not what you want to see out of a guy you just signed, but we'll have our doctors take a look at it, and I'm sure Jason will be healthy soon." Minaya also noted that the Mets signed 46-year-old lefthanded pitcher Terry Mulholland, who hasn't pitched since 2006, to a guaranteed one-year deal.

OMG - I'm dying here!

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 02:36 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Mulholland? Didn't they have the number for Dave Dravecky's agent? I like the Zambrano idea. Apparently they're reassembling the 2006 Venezuelan WBC team - Santana, Frankie, Escobar, Blanco and Fonzie are already in camp. I'll pass on the return of Freddy Garcia, though.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 02:38 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Woo-hoo! Endy's coming home!

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 02:46 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

It looks like Bay wore number 38 as a Pirate and number 44 as a Red Sock. I can't remember if the Mets currently have either of those numbers available.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 02:53 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Thirty-eight, which has been a festival of failure and injury since Skip Lockwood first got hurt 30 years ago, is now the property of the rehabbing Fernando Nieve. Wearing forty-four as an outfielder is really challenging fate, but I spoke recently with the number, and it says it would love to hop on Bay's back, and get the Tim Reddiing vibe out of its system.

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 02:54 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Put him in 8 and be done with it.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2009 03:02 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Swan Swan H":3stplutj]Put him in 8 and be done with it.[/quote:3stplutj] I like that idea. And let's give Henry Blanco number 24. No more semi-retired numbers! WOOOOOOO!

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 03:08 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

For all I know 8 is the number he really wanted but couldn't get in Pittsburgh (Stargell) and Boston (Yaz). 38 and 44 look like numbers a guy would substitute for 8 if he couldn't get it.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 03:17 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Benjamin Grimm"][quote="Swan Swan H"]Put him in 8 and be done with it.

I like that idea.

And let's give Henry Blanco number 24. No more semi-retired numbers! WOOOOOOO!

I'd say put them both on the wall instead, but we've been over that.... he says sheepishly.

G-Fafif Dec 29 2009 03:22 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Do the Red Sox get Steve Reed or Jason Middlebrook in return -- or both?

Centerfield Dec 29 2009 03:38 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Jason Bay, former Phantom-Met. Like FK, I am fascinated that how this news unfolded. How did Francesa scoop everyone else? And how could he be so confident that he sat on the news for 24 hours. This is just mind-boggling. I would love to hear an explanation on this. Kudos to Mike for actually having news after that kind of hype. If this were "the Mets are adding a wing to CitiField", it would have been lamer than lame. I'm glad they brought in Bay. He looks like a good hitter. Although at that price, and for 5 years (after the vest) I would have preferred Holliday, but it is what it is. Now trade Franceour, get a first-baseman, sign a SP and let's go to war.

metirish Dec 29 2009 04:12 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Seawolf gets an A....very good.

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 04:47 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I don't like it. I've soured alot on Bay after reading about his terrible defense and would have rather saved the money for next year or paid Holliday

bmfc1 Dec 29 2009 06:43 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I wholeheartedly approve. Excellent move. His bat makes the lineup potent and protects Carlos (we only have one now) and David. Between Bay and Molina, the Mets have signed two players from my championship fantasy team so Omar is obviously signing players that know how to win.

metirish Dec 29 2009 06:49 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Take this how you like but there are reports of Zambrano to the Mets involving a third team....

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 07:14 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

and protects Carlos (we only have one now) then go get the other one back, way better than bringing molina in

Swan Swan H Dec 29 2009 07:50 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="metirish":3ek6kszv]Take this how you like but there are reports of Zambrano to the Mets involving a third team....[/quote:3ek6kszv] What odds are Paddy Power setting on Zambrano to the Mets?

Kong76 Dec 29 2009 08:03 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

From another thread ... K76: Doesn't this happen every year? The Mets are closed the Friday before Xmas and won't be re-opening until the Monday after New Years. Unfortunately, the papers will still be selling papers. <<<

Edgy DC Dec 30 2009 08:39 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

How's about a little shoulder action?

soupcan Dec 30 2009 10:03 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

The Boston Red Sox apparently didn't want to sign a long-term contract with Bay because of some health concerns about Bay's shoulders holding up. But meanwhile they still offered him 4 years at $60 mil.

Kong76 Dec 30 2009 10:38 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

MM: The Mets do not want to embarrass themselves by confirming a deal then having to back away should Bay not pass the physical <<< It's subtle cracks like this that just grind my goat horns. Why not just come out and say it ... after many seasons ending in disaster, a pissed off fan base, the beloved Yankees World Championship, ownership that often looks stoopid, front office scandals, an injury riddled team that needs a serious medical staff upgrade, a stadium that belongs in Brooklyn, Pete Flynn's dandruff problem, etc. the Mets simply can't afford to crap the bed on this one where other teams would announce the signing and leap willy nilly into a four-five year deal with just a few wind sprints to see if he can actually breathe and run at the same time.

MFS62 Dec 30 2009 10:51 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Kong76"]MM: The Mets do not want to embarrass themselves by confirming a deal then having to back away should Bay not pass the physical <<< It's subtle cracks like this that just grind my goat horns. Why not just come out and say it ... after many seasons ending in disaster, a pissed off fan base, the beloved Yankees World Championship, ownership that often looks stoopid, front office scandals, an injury riddled team that needs a serious medical staff upgrade, a stadium that belongs in Brooklyn, Pete Flynn's dandruff problem, etc. the Mets simply can't afford to crap the bed on this one where other teams would announce the signing and leap willy nilly into a four-five year deal with just a few wind sprints to see if he can actually breathe and run at the same time.

You forgot the link to the Joel Sherman article.
LOL!
Later

Edgy DC Dec 31 2009 07:44 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Valadius"][quote="Edgy DC"]There have been six Maple Leaf Mets, but none since 1973, if'n' you believe that nonsense. The last was Brian Ostrosser --- 0-5 in 1973. Canada's overdue to contribute to the great cause.

You're kidding me. Seems like there should be more, right?

David Waldstein reads the Pool.

Or at least (and more likely) the UMDB.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 31 2009 08:45 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Edgy DC"][quote="Valadius"][quote="Edgy DC"]There have been six Maple Leaf Mets, but none since 1973, if'n' you believe that nonsense. The last was Brian Ostrosser --- 0-5 in 1973. Canada's overdue to contribute to the great cause.

You're kidding me. Seems like there should be more, right?

David Waldstein reads the Pool.

Or at least (and more likely) the UMDB.

Cool story!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 04 2010 12:08 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

As per Cerrone: Host Mike Francesa ended his show on WFAN last Tuesday saying he would soon have a ‘Mets update,’ and he later broke news that the Mets and Jason Bay had agreed to a four-year deal. Today, Francesa is at it again, opening his show by saying, “I think you’ll be getting some more Mets news here later in the week, but we’ll get to that later in the show… Jason Bay press conference is tomorrow, but there’s more to come.” Either pitching's comin', or Eli's comin'. Either way, I yams nervouses.

Nymr83 Jan 04 2010 02:09 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I hope Molina isn't coming

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 04 2010 02:11 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

is anyone listening?

Centerfield Jan 04 2010 02:15 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Francesa must give some great head to know that his source will keep things quiet until he's ready to break it.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2010 02:23 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

It is curious, isn't it? I'm hoping it's a pitcher.

Nymr83 Jan 04 2010 02:30 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Centerfield":2jmg5myl]Francesa must give some great head to know that his source will keep things quiet until he's ready to break it.[/quote:2jmg5myl] The source almost has to be Omar or Jeff Wilpon to have that degree of certainty doesnt it?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 04 2010 02:34 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Not listening; no additional posts from the usual suspects. Close reading of the Metsblog bid'ness hints that the real news will come in a day or so. If it's a personnel move, the timing has to mean it's a FA signing, doesn't it? (Trade announcements seem to be a good deal less deliberate.) This Francesa-as-mouthpiece thing seems more and more like a deliberate NY-paper-shunning campaign. (Lord knows the organization's got motive, in light of all the failed-team/failed-GM/failed-owner writing during the last 3-6 months.)

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2010 02:44 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I haven't listened to Francesa since 2005. Has he really been friendlier to the Mets than the local papers have been?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 04 2010 02:54 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":tl46y4qg]I haven't listened to Francesa since 2005. Has he really been friendlier to the Mets than the local papers have been?[/quote:tl46y4qg] He's more or less the same guy you remember, minus a braying Russo. He sprays it on everyone, though. But compared to the Rubin Sunday-Snooze piece and other organizational dissections last year, along with the various and sundry Madoff stuff (which had to sting the Wilpons a bit more than the usual "these guys are out of touch/cheap" crit)? His shtick comes off like that-- well-meaning shtick.

Frayed Knot Jan 04 2010 03:19 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 04 2010 03:19 PM

[quote="Benjamin Grimm"]I haven't listened to Francesa since 2005. Has he really been friendlier to the Mets than the local papers have been?

Mainly he just appears to be on good terms with Omar. He both has him on the show for chats at regular intervals and cites him often as a direct source; "... as for a deal at the trade deadline, I talked to Omar the other day and he said ..."

The natural assumption here is that Omar appears to be feeding MF scoops of late as a return favor for not joining in the 'Fire Omar Yesterday!!' chorus over the last six months or so. Francesa mostly took the stand last summer that no one and no team could survive the injury onslaught of the '09 Mets and therefore breaks are deserved.

The odd part to me - as I said earlier in this thread - is that Mike seems to be un-naturally confident that these news goodies he's been getting won't leak out from any other source during the time he's teasing them.

G-Fafif Jan 04 2010 03:19 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Francesa is friendly to the Mets in the way Biff was friendly to George McFly in Back to the Future. Jeff Wilpon seems to have decided he is the most effective megaphone/loudest voice available, and maybe Mike'll be nice to us if we feed him info. They only acted on the Doc autographed wall kerfuffle last April once Mike decreed it was the right thing to do. FWIW, Francesa couldn't be more condescending toward the Jets either.

Centerfield Jan 04 2010 03:47 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Isn't his show over by now?

Edgy DC Jan 04 2010 05:17 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="G-Fafif"]Francesa is friendly to the Mets in the way Biff was friendly to George McFly in Back to the Future. Jeff Wilpon seems to have decided he is the most effective megaphone/loudest voice available, and maybe Mike'll be nice to us if we feed him info. They only acted on the Doc autographed wall kerfuffle last April once Mike decreed it was the right thing to do.

Doc Gooden or Doc Brown? I'm so confused.

Is this 1985?

G-Fafif Jan 04 2010 06:23 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="Edgy DC":7gwk5lwq]Is this 1985?[/quote:7gwk5lwq] From a baseball sense, that would be awesome. Otherwise I don't have the energy to relive the last 25 years.

Valadius Jan 04 2010 06:30 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

Now if the Marlins move to the American League, change their mascot to the Gators, and play the Chicago Cubs in the 2015 World Series, THAT would be awesome.

soupcan Jan 04 2010 08:46 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

[quote="G-Fafif"]Francesa is friendly to the Mets in the way Biff was friendly to George McFly in Back to the Future.

"You Irish Bug."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 04 2010 10:05 PM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

He teased an interview he'll have with Minaya tomorrow at the top of his show, a short while after the Bay conference. I can't imagine that's at what he was hinting.

Centerfield Jan 05 2010 11:21 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

What a douchebag. He never had any news.

MFS62 Jan 06 2010 09:18 AM Re: mets news at 2pm: Fatcessa

I heard Mike interview Bay yesterday. He came across as a good guy. BUT - he may have broken basketball player Adrian (Odie) Smith's* world record for the most "You know" -s in a twenty minute period. Later *= I heard the Smith interview and I got a tic from the repetition of "you know". I made up the part about the world's record, in case anyone would ask me for a link.