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Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 05:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 29 2009 05:23 PM

If there's, like, an 8 million dollar vesting option here for 2012, I may cry or strangle a hobo. And that option will most likely vest based on some target like the number of Shackburgers homey can eat, or "ability to call a game."

metirish Dec 29 2009 05:13 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

He's on the verge of signing right?

metirish Dec 29 2009 05:15 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

Burp http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/12/29/ ... gie-molina EDIT...sorry to LWFS....I didn't realize you had a link up there...it's impossible to tell at times

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 05:43 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

BAD NEWS waste of dollars when you can get 99% of Molina for under a million a year. his OBP will murder rallies. his fat body will kill them too on the few occassions he gets on base.

Fman99 Dec 29 2009 07:55 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

I have no problem with a two year deal for Molina. He played in a park even bigger than Citi Field and hit 20 HRs last year. And they'll bat him 8th and pinch run for him late anyway. SS Reyes 2B Castillo 3B Wright LF Bay CF Beltran RF Francoeur 1B Murphy C Molina SP I like it top to bottom. Go get Carlos Zambrano, finish putting this fucker together please Omar.

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 08:44 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

I have no problem with a two year deal for Molina. He played in a park even bigger than Citi Field and hit 20 HRs last year. And they'll bat him 8th and pinch run for him late anyway. i dont care if he hits 20, his OBP should scare you. and i'll bet the Mets, being followers of idiotic and outdated thinking, will look at those homers (and rbis) and bat him 6th more than 8th.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 08:47 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

That's a pretty broad generalization.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2009 08:54 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?") Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 29 2009 08:55 PM

Okay, if you revise Namor's statement from "the Mets" to "those who make up the batting order for this team," does it strike your ear better, Edge? He's not very good at the most important thing to do when playing offensive baseball. He's no great shakes defensively, and gets run on more than essays by hyper middle-schoolers. He's durable, but is also 35. Signing him to two years is kinda lunatic. Thankfully, it may not actually be so.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 08:55 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

I imagine it may not be. The last time I thought somebody was being overharsh about signing him, he wasn't signed then either.

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 08:56 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="Edgy DC":3bx04474]That's a pretty broad generalization.[/quote:3bx04474] i really think the mets are one of the worst teams in the league over the last few years when it comes to making a batting order (after deciding which 9 guys are playing), but i doubt there'd be any way to prove or dispprove that.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2009 08:59 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

Well, take the bull by the horns. Once you've decided on your nine guys (although idiotic and outdated thinking has to muck that up a bunch), there are only 362,880 possible different batting orders.

Valadius Dec 29 2009 09:13 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

I would much rather get a better first baseman and see how Thole and Santos platoon.

Gwreck Dec 29 2009 09:31 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

I would rather spend the $$ on a pitcher and save the $$ next year for future first baseman Joe Mauer.

Nymr83 Dec 29 2009 09:47 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="Valadius":2sa05msu]I would much rather get a better first baseman and see how Thole and Santos platoon.[/quote:2sa05msu] Blanco would (and should) be a more prominent member of that platoon, but I agree with the sentiment that whats on the roster is just fine (compared to molina). I would play Blanco while mixing in some Santos or Coste. Thole can start the year at AAA with the plan being not to call him up unless injuries make you desperate or his performance forces the issue.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 29 2009 09:55 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="Gwreck":w17fguck]I would rather spend the $$ on a pitcher and save the $$ next year for future first baseman Joe Mauer.[/quote:w17fguck] some of next year's potential free agents ... Joe Mauer Albert Pujols (But only if the Cards don’t exercise their $16M option. Yeah right.) Derek Jeter Martiano Rivera Jorge Cantu Manny Ramirez Lance Berkman David Ortiz Carl Crawford Adam Dunn Josh Beckett Brandon Webb| Cliff Lee Ramon Castro

metsguyinmichigan Dec 29 2009 11:22 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":2778szkd][quote="Gwreck":2778szkd]I would rather spend the $$ on a pitcher and save the $$ next year for future first baseman Joe Mauer.[/quote:2778szkd] some of next year's potential free agents ... Joe Mauer Albert Pujols (But only if the Cards don’t exercise their $16M option. Yeah right.) Derek Jeter Martiano Rivera Jorge Cantu Manny Ramirez Lance Berkman David Ortiz Carl Crawford Adam Dunn Josh Beckett Brandon Webb| Cliff Lee Ramon Castro[/quote:2778szkd] Do we have anybody coming off the books after this season -- who we'd want to be coming off the books?

Edgy DC Dec 30 2009 06:31 AM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

Yes, we do, and --- to listen to Met fans --- they want everybody off the books.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2009 07:15 AM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="Nymr83":1r9ozphg]I would play Blanco while mixing in some Santos or Coste. Thole can start the year at AAA with the plan being not to call him up unless injuries make you desperate or his performance forces the issue.[/quote:1r9ozphg] That's the way I've been thinking as well.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2009 07:39 AM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":1jz51opd] Do we have anybody coming off the books after this season -- who we'd want to be coming off the books?[/quote:1jz51opd] Not that I can think of. If I'm remembering correctly, there are a number of guys whose contracts expire after 2011, but I'm not aware of any Mets multi-year contracts that expire in 2010. After 2011, I think that Beltran, Perez, Castillo, and Rodriguez will be "coming off the books."

Edgy DC Dec 30 2009 08:11 AM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

The main guys whose contracts that expire after 2010 are Jerry Manuel and Jose Reyes. Both have options for 2011, Jose's at $11 million.

Gwreck Dec 30 2009 08:13 AM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

We have an option on Reyes for 2011 but I guess we could get rid of him after this year if we wanted.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2009 02:23 PM Re: Oh, God, No. (Or, "FatCatcher: The Conclusion?")

Fire Jerry Manuel captures my feelings on the Molina matter pretty perfectly.