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First Base

Hangin' with Muffy

11 votes

Hoping for Carlos to bounce back

4 votes

There's a FA name in there I like

10 votes

Farmer Ted Jan 08 2010 10:58 AM

Omar is keeping tabs on Delgado in the winter league. Meanwhile, the Red Sox just shipped Casey Kotchman to Seattle for Bill Hall leaving Russell Branyan unemployed. Other current FAs incluude: Adam LaRoche Jim Thome Aubrey Huff Hank Blalock Ryan Garko Chad Tracy What's your preference for 1B?

themetfairy Jan 08 2010 11:00 AM Re: First Base

I am willing to gamble on Muffy. But this is only a slight preference - I'm not too confident about any of our options at first....

attgig Jan 08 2010 11:06 AM Re: First Base

I like taking a look at blalock for a incentive laden one year deal. Played in a good number of games last year, that I have good enough hope that he can get back to playing 140+ games. great power & still relatively young that I also have good enough hope that his average/OBP can return to pretty respectable numbers. I would say Delgado if he wasn't looking for 5 mil as a base salary. who knows, maybe blalock is looking for the same, but I'd think his asking price would be a bit cheaper. murph is my last choice. I don't think I'll ever be happy with him.

attgig Jan 08 2010 11:11 AM Re: First Base

btw, is it just me or does murph look like keith miller? (can't get the image to embed for some weird reason. link: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3pH8F1XaEYc/S ... miller.jpg

Edgy DC Jan 08 2010 11:14 AM Re: First Base

Hope harder, man. Plenty of talented Mets --- Lee Mazzilli, Mookie Wilson, Jose Reyes, Todd Hundley --- were not particularly at the top of their class right away. Time takes time.

smg58 Jan 08 2010 11:28 AM Re: First Base

I do think they need a supplemental righthanded bat regardless of who gets most of the starts at first, but otherwise I'm flexible. I'd consider Delgado if he'd agree to an incentive-laden deal, but I wouldn't lose sleep if we got outbid.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 08 2010 11:43 AM Re: First Base

[quote="smg58":g8mypdn9]I do think they need a supplemental righthanded bat regardless of who gets most of the starts at first, but otherwise I'm flexible. I'd consider Delgado if he'd agree to an incentive-laden deal, but I wouldn't lose sleep if we got outbid.[/quote:g8mypdn9] Garko: .313/.392/.495 against lefties, career, in about a full-platoon-season's experience (485 PAs) against 'em. Should be cheap, too-- should the Mets sign him, and Ike prove to need more seasoning next year, I think he's got another year of arb left (Blalock, on the other hand, made 6M last year and is a Boras guy; also, he's a lefty with a nasty platoon split). Of course, if he weren't invisible (like the "Sixth Sense" in converse?) to our field manager, perfaps Nick Evans (.320/.382/.490) could fit the bill.

TransMonk Jan 08 2010 11:55 AM Re: First Base

I'm kind of resigned to the fact that the 2010 Mets 1Bman will most likely be well below league average no matter what. Either Murphy or Delgado is fine by me. I'm not Murph's biggest fan, but I also don't think he has reached his potential. If we're looking at free agents, I would much rather see a splash made in the rotation than at 1B.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 08 2010 12:03 PM Re: First Base

[quote="attgig"]

Damn, the Mets look good in blue. I'd so much rather see something like that -- without the black letters and the side panels -- as our alt. jersey!

Oh, and I like Murphy. I'd want him to show more growth and consistency, but I want to give him the chance before I'd pull the plug.

I just think he's the kind of hard-working, hard-nosed guy we like to have around.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 08 2010 12:06 PM Re: First Base

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":1o6n8xig]I like Murphy.... I just think he's the kind of hard-working, hard-nosed guy we like to have around.[/quote:1o6n8xig] And so long as he hits well enough, he has my permission to be as hard-working and as hard-nosed as he wants to be.

Ashie62 Jan 08 2010 12:24 PM Re: First Base

Hank Blalock

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 08 2010 12:27 PM Re: First Base Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 08 2010 12:47 PM

I think Murphy-plus-Evans for this year would probably be the best, most prudent solution, all things considered. I'd be lying to you and me, though, if I said I were hoping they DIDN'T sign Delgado. I admire the man, and wouldn't mind seeing him back at all, yanking HRs over the bridge and spraying his bad influence all over the impressionable youngsters in the clubhouse.

Willets Point Jan 08 2010 12:28 PM Re: First Base

Kissing with tongues.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 08 2010 12:29 PM Re: First Base

Evans. What is his deal?

A Boy Named Seo Jan 08 2010 12:41 PM Re: First Base

Barring a creative trade, LaRoche is probably the best option for 2010. Wouldn't wanna lay out 3 years to the dude or anything, though. Would be just fine with Delgado back at a 1-year, low base thing and hope for the best. Agreed that Murph will get his AB's somewhere over the year, maybe even 1B. After that, Garko's attractive as a platoon. Hank Blalock suxxxxxxxx.

G-Fafif Jan 08 2010 12:56 PM Re: First Base

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3cq99w68]Evans. What is his deal?[/quote:3cq99w68] I know! I mean, they bring you this little bag of Nick Evans on the plane like they're doing you some kind of favor, and there's hardly any Nick Evans in there! I once asked for another bag of Nick Evans, and the stewardess told me I was out of luck -- only one bag of Nick Evans per passenger. I mean, what is his deal?

attgig Jan 08 2010 01:01 PM Re: First Base

[quote="Edgy DC":2t7g9bth]Hope harder, man. Plenty of talented Mets --- Lee Mazzilli, Mookie Wilson, Jose Reyes, Todd Hundley --- were not particularly at the top of their class right away. Time takes time.[/quote:2t7g9bth] ok, he can develop in AAA, where he should've spent the '09 season. If he has great defense, or runs particularly fast, or has some other aspects in his game that can make up for his lack of power, and pretty cold bats at time, sure, I can understand the best place for him could be flushing. I don't see anything though that screams he needs to start at 1b. Blalock has shown great power, and good hitting through his career. Injuries have hampered his rise, but he's had a healthy 09, and should be returning to for this coming year, and is still relatively young.

Fman99 Jan 08 2010 01:05 PM Re: First Base

Murphy/Evans platoon.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 08 2010 01:34 PM Re: First Base Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 08 2010 02:38 PM

[quote="attgig"]Blalock has shown great power, and good hitting through his career. Injuries have hampered his rise, but he's had a healthy 09, and should be returning to for this coming year, and is still relatively young.

Blalock had shown good power and pretty good hitting... before his spate of injuries. His strikeout rate's climbed significantly since he was a pup, he gets on base at a below-average rate (.329 career, which is below-average for major-leaguers, much less first basemen) and he hasn't put together a good full season in four years. As I pointed out earlier, he's also a Scott Boras client, beyond arb control, and made 6 million last year.

BTW: Ryan Garko made 446K last year, and has 2 more years of arbitration-control. And Nick Evans is ALREADY HERE! (Seriously, WTF?)

Vic Sage Jan 08 2010 02:05 PM Re: First Base

Laroche is 30, relatively healthy, and generally produces a .275/25hr/90rbi line, with a decent OPS. Let Murphy play a full season of 2b at AAA. I have no desire to see Delgado make a comeback from a serious injury, at an advanced age, on the Mets dime.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 08 2010 02:39 PM Re: First Base

I don't think anyone's signing LaRoche to a one-year deal. 2-3 teams have already made offers, as I understand it.

attgig Jan 08 2010 02:45 PM Re: First Base

murphy = little power. laroche is looking for way too much money/way too many years. Evans? really looking to sink or swim based on the possibilitiy of a rookie producing who's shown to be nothing but inconsistent? oh, sounds like what we tried with murphy last year. Blalock is NOT getting a raise, whoever his agent is. if he ends up being more than delgado, then yeah, probably not worth it. Garko = murphy in a few years. maxing out at 20 hr's a year. I can live with garko, but I'd take a swing at seeing how much blalock/delgado are first.

Farmer Ted Jan 11 2010 11:27 AM Re: First Base

I find it interesting that Mets.com has highlighted Carlos three times since he began this rehab stinit in PR last week. I'm guessing if the hip holds up, Carlos is back with an incentive-laden contract; Muffy doing filler time at 1B, LF, and pinch hitting in '10. Don't think they'd try to trade him yet.

Chad Ochoseis Jan 11 2010 11:48 AM Re: First Base

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]I don't think anyone's signing LaRoche to a one-year deal. 2-3 teams have already made offers, as I understand it.

Any word on where these offers are coming from, and for how much and how long? Most of the big-spending teams are pretty well fixed up at 1B.

This article says that LaRoche is looking for three years at $10.5M per. Good luck with that.

He's not great and shows no signs of becoming great, but he'd be a huge improvement over Murphy and much less of a risk than Carlos D. at this stage of his career. I'd be fine if he were to sign on for two years, $8M annually.

Edgy DC Jan 11 2010 12:01 PM Re: First Base

[quote="Farmer Ted":3fwv3rnt]I find it interesting that Mets.com has highlighted Carlos three times since he began this rehab stinit in PR last week. I'm guessing if the hip holds up, Carlos is back with an incentive-laden contract; Muffy doing filler time at 1B, LF, and pinch hitting in '10. Don't think they'd try to trade him yet.[/quote:3fwv3rnt] They might. Remember that, if they're not starting Murphy, Chris Carter provides plenty of Murphy redundancy as a benchie.

smg58 Jan 13 2010 02:15 PM Re: First Base

Let's not forget Russ Branyan (31 HR's last year in hitter-unfriendly Safeco) is still waiting for an offer.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 14 2010 09:40 AM Re: First Base

The internet just told me that Adam LaRouche is about to write his name on a contract w/ the D-Bags for 1 year/$4-5 mils. I woulda been all over that shit. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/b ... index.html

smg58 Jan 14 2010 11:03 AM Re: First Base

The good news is that players like Branyan and Delgado will have to ask for less than that. Wow, I bet LaRoche is sorry he turned the Giants offer down. And I bet his agent is fired the minute the ink dries.

Nymr83 Jan 14 2010 11:05 AM Re: First Base

wow. I'm not a huge LaRoche fan but thats dirt cheap for a player of his ability.

OlerudOwned Jan 14 2010 11:37 AM Re: First Base

Carlos. Beltran.

metirish Jan 14 2010 11:41 AM Re: First Base

[quote="OlerudOwned":9kywh1pk]Carlos. Beltran.[/quote:9kywh1pk] WOW.....I think I like it....

86-Dreamer Jan 14 2010 11:41 AM Re: First Base Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 14 2010 11:45 AM

[quote="A Boy Named Seo":lpb5b6qk]The internet just told me that Adam LaRouche is about to write his name on a contract w/ the D-Bags for 1 year/$4-5 mils. I woulda been all over that shit. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/b ... index.html[/quote:lpb5b6qk] Healthy, good defense, good power and average at reasonable price for the short term at a position of need. I have thought since the start of FA season that he was a perfect fit, but sadly he did not seem to be on Omar's agenda. I would like to know why, you know what I'm sayin?

Vic Sage Jan 14 2010 01:58 PM Re: First Base

i feel ya, my brother.

Vic Sage Jan 15 2010 09:09 AM Re: First Base

From Amazin Avenue: By Craig Calcaterra -- Deep Thought: For what the Mets are going to likely pay Bengie Molina, they could have signed Adam LaRoche and any of the multiple $3 million-and-cheaper catchers who have signed this winter and who aren't appreciably worse than Molina, including but not limited to Gregg Zaun, Miguel Olivo, John Buck, and Ivan Rodriguez. And even if you think Molina is the best of the bunch, isn't Molina + Daniel Murphy at first base < any of these guys + Adam LaRoche at first base?

Ceetar Jan 15 2010 09:41 AM Re: First Base

Why willing to believe Molina could be the best of the bunch but not willing to believe a rookie could have a good second season and be better than the slow-starting Adam LaRoche?

Edgy DC Jan 19 2010 10:07 AM Re: First Base

If a one-year righthanded helper to Murphyy is the what they're perhaps looking for, and they want a guy who could play some at other positions, maybe, um, Nomah?

MFS62 Jan 19 2010 10:15 AM Re: First Base

[quote="Edgy DC":35hd5395]If a one-year righthanded helper to Murphy is the what they're perhaps looking for, and they want a guy who could play some at other positions, maybe, um, Nomah?[/quote:35hd5395] Heaven forbid. That would rekindle the arguement that Jeter was not the best shortstop (when they all played the position) among Derek, A-Rod and Nomar. And we couldn't allow that to happen. Could we? (snicker) Yes, Nomar might be a decent option. Later

HahnSolo Jan 19 2010 10:59 AM Re: First Base

Nomar'd fit right in on our DL.

Edgy DC Jan 19 2010 11:00 AM Re: First Base

Pretty good point, of course. Let's hope we'd only get him under some incentive-type dealio.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 19 2010 11:14 AM Re: First Base

Branyan could be interesting at this point-- lefty power and a league-average glove. Considering that LaRoche's market had dwindled so much that he ended up inking what he did, Branyan should cost at most half of what they're offering Bengie, and push Myrph into a comfortably Heep-y place.

Centerfield Jan 19 2010 03:06 PM Re: First Base

Delgado to the BJ's according to a report on mlb.com. (per Metsblog)

attgig Jan 19 2010 03:31 PM Re: First Base

bj's denying it.

Ashie62 Jan 19 2010 04:15 PM Re: First Base

Blue Jays say no..Carlos may be lucky to land a job if he can't play 1B or slide Muffy is safe

Valadius Feb 09 2010 09:13 PM Re: First Base

Keef is giving Murphy and Evans first base lessons: [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Arbfk.B0o5IjfZ3C25qGEksRvLYF?slug=ap-mets-murphy-hernandez&prov=ap&type=lgns

Frayed Knot Feb 10 2010 07:48 AM Re: First Base

[quote="Valadius"]Keef is giving Murphy and Evans first base lessons: [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Arbfk.B0o5IjfZ3C25qGEksRvLYF?slug=ap-mets-murphy-hernandez&prov=ap&type=lgns

Hope the lessons work out better than Keith's on-going diet.

Nymr83 Feb 10 2010 08:00 PM Re: First Base

I've changed my vote from Delgado to Free Agent. lets give Blalock a shot.

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 01:30 PM Re: First Base

Delgado goes under one more time.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 20 2010 02:28 PM Re: First Base

[quote="Edgy DC"]Delgado goes under one more time.

Excerpt:

Carlos Delgado recently underwent another hip surgery, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, but he stills plans on attempting a comeback, according to his agent David Sloane.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 20 2010 02:34 PM Re: First Base

Ha. Assuming we're a dog in the hunt by then, and he's 90 percent of what he was at season's start last year, does Delgado make sense as, say, a 750K midseason rental?

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 02:38 PM Re: First Base

That's certainly an option, but who knows what the situation will be when we reach that bridge. Better best to simply be thankful that they didn't sign him up prematurely.

Ashie62 Feb 20 2010 03:07 PM Re: First Base

Is Mike Jacobs a better option than Delgado?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 20 2010 03:20 PM Re: First Base

No. No, he's not.

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 03:30 PM Re: First Base

Well, he is this morning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 20 2010 03:48 PM Re: First Base

Yes. Yes, he is. But then, so are you and I.

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 03:54 PM Re: First Base

It feels good.

metsguyinmichigan Feb 20 2010 04:14 PM Re: First Base

What a horrible thing to happen to Delgado. I only wish him the best.

smg58 Feb 20 2010 04:49 PM Re: First Base

Well if it's July, the surgery goes well, and Murph can't get his OPS north of .775 or so, Carlos might still be worth a call.

Ashie62 Feb 20 2010 06:17 PM Re: First Base

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":31w01eqj]What a horrible thing to happen to Delgado. I only wish him the best.[/quote:31w01eqj] Somebody scrape the uniform off Delgado and maybe his loved ones can talk him into life after baseball