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The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Frayed Knot Jan 08 2010 02:20 PM

From Adam Rubin's blog at NYDN: The Mets have claimed lefthanded reliever Jay Marshall off waivers from Oakland. Here's the official release: Marshall, 26, spilt last season between Oakland and Sacramento (AAA) of the Pacific Coast League. He started 2009 with the River Cats, appearing in 50 games and going 5-3 with seven saves and a 3.20 ERA (18 earned runs/50.2 innings). After a promotion to the Athletics on August 9, the 6-5, 205-pounder went 0-2 with a 14.73 ERA in 10 appearances out of the bullpen for Oakland. Marshall was taken by Chicago (AL) in the 25th round of the 2002 First Year Player Draft and made his professional debut the next year with Bristol (R) of the Appalachian League. His first major league action came in 2007 with Oakland and for his career, the lefthander is 1-4 with a 7.66 ERA. Marshall - a lefty reliever w/50 ML innings under his belt. Maybe a LOOGY although it's a bit hard to tell from his brief ML splits (where he hasn't really been good against anyone) or maybe just a guy to keep Pedro F. company.

Edgy DC Jan 08 2010 02:29 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

He came up in 2007. Do the Mets have to put him through waivers to assign him to Buff?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 08 2010 02:29 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

One of our submarines.

Valadius Jan 08 2010 04:51 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

You know, I'm getting ready to propose an honorary Chad Bradford/Joe Smith Submarine Pitcher Roster Spot.

Edgy DC Jan 08 2010 04:58 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Well, the tradition is that a designated spot becomes established only in the names of deceased players from Championship-winning squads.

seawolf17 Jan 09 2010 07:38 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

If I'm Roger McDowell, I politely decline Valadius's dinner invitation, then.

Edgy DC Jan 09 2010 07:43 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Well, I think sidewinder Terry Leach (6 2/3 IP in 1986) would have to be our victim. (Danny Frisella didn't do it sideways, did he?)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 09 2010 07:46 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Leach is more it than McDowell. Rog was more "sidearm" than "submarine," strictly speaking. As to Marshall... I'm just hoping he can get lefties out, and maybe grow some fun, Clay Zapada-like facial hair thing. (Part of the job as a LOOGY, in my mind, is amusement value.)

Edgy DC Jan 09 2010 07:51 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Sidewinders I can think of (*=Metly): Old School Ted Abernathy Elden Auker Dick Hyde Walter Johnson Carl Mays Middle School Mark Eichhorn Jeff Innis* Terry Leach* Dan Quisenberry Kent Tekulve New School Chad Braford* Todd Frohwirth Jason Isringhausen* Jay Marshall Steve Reed* Joe Smith* Scott Sullivan Billy Taylor* Kelly Wunsch

seawolf17 Jan 09 2010 07:52 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Can we go get Clay Zapada? I'd ask one of our guys to grow a silly moustache, but then we'd just be copying him. I'd rather have the real thing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 09 2010 08:04 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Hey, it doesn't HAVE to be a Zavada-stache (I sic'ed myself). After all, you can't really top the Mustachioed American of 2009, can you? Hell, he could just grow the beard out, or just the sides (a la old-school General Burnsides-'burns). Or a Sam Elliott brush. Whatever... explore the studio space a bit, you've got the time.

MFS62 Jan 09 2010 08:14 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Edgy, there was another one - Marty Kutyna. I tried to copy his delivery for a while, then gave up. It was not only side/ sub but "herky jerky" too. Later

Chad Ochoseis Jan 09 2010 08:51 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Wikipedia has a nice series of freeze-frames showing Cla Meredith's pitching motion.

Edgy DC Jan 10 2010 05:52 AM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="MFS62":3tonaqn1]Edgy, there was another one - Marty Kutyna.[/quote:3tonaqn1] I'm sure there are many many more. That's just what I dreamed up. Feel free to copy and add to it.

Gwreck Jan 10 2010 12:10 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Brad Ziegler of the Athletics. Had something like 40 consecutive scoreless innings a year or two ago.

TheOldMole Jan 10 2010 01:02 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Ewell Blackwell?

MFS62 Jan 10 2010 01:27 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Ewell "The Whip" Blackwell was a pure sidearmer. BTW- Edgy, I had never heard that Walter Johnson had anything but a more typical (over the top or three-quarter) delivery. Was he a side-armer consistently? Later

Edgy DC Jan 10 2010 01:44 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Sure was. Greatest pitcher ever. Sidearmer.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 10 2010 02:05 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="MFS62"]I had never heard that Walter Johnson had anything but a more typical (over the top or three-quarter) delivery. Was he a side-armer consistently? Later

Walter Johnson video from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnSasG3P5d4

Ken Burns' Baseball documentary dedicated a chapter to Johnson. His delivery was so lazy looking, so effortless, that opponents could not believe that Johnson was capable of generating possibly the fastest pitch speeds in the history of the game. Until they stepped into the batter's box and got to face him. Here's one of baseball's great quotes, also from Ken Burns' Baseball:

In 1907, the Senators, manager, Joe Cantillon, received a report about a 19 year old pitcher said to be tearing up the Idaho State League: "This boy throws so fast you can't see 'em," the scout said, "and he knows where he is throwing, because if he didn't there would be dead bodies all over Idaho."

Edgy DC Jan 10 2010 02:48 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Beauitiful, isn't it? It's hard to tell which are warmup pitches and which are against live batters, so you can't tell how much he dropped down, but my estimation is not much at all.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 10 2010 06:40 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Awesome video.

Swan Swan H Jan 10 2010 07:14 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Johnson had a nickname, didn't he? The Big Caboose, or Choo-Choo, or something. It's on the edge of my tongue.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 10 2010 07:16 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Awesome video.

"The thing just hissed with danger". (Ty Cobb describing Johnson's fast ball).

A video excerpt from Ken Burns' Baseball on Walter Johnson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHV0-Zp3 ... 41&index=2

batmagadanleadoff Jan 10 2010 07:20 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="Swan Swan H":2d8s3hfs]Johnson had a nickname, didn't he? The Big Caboose, or Choo-Choo, or something. It's on the edge of my tongue.[/quote:2d8s3hfs] "The Big Mork". In fact, Mork from Ork was named Mork specifically because of Robin Williams' resemblance to the HOF Senator pitcher.

Edgy DC Jan 10 2010 07:39 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Stop trying to fuck with me. I'm unfuckable.

Fman99 Jan 10 2010 08:17 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="Edgy DC":20kj89tl]Stop trying to fuck with me. I'm unfuckable.[/quote:20kj89tl] That's what she said. OH SNAP!

Rockin' Doc Jan 10 2010 09:37 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="batmagadanleadoff"] "The thing just hissed with danger". (Ty Cobb describing Johnson's fast ball). A video excerpt from Ken Burns' Baseball on Walter Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHV0-Zp3 ... 41&index=2

Great videos of Johnson and other legends of the game on Youtube. Thanks batmags for posting the Johnson videos.

The lack of leg drive or much of a follow through is striking in the video. Johnson's right leg and lower body lag so far behind his arm. The torque exerted on Johnson's right shoulder must have been tremendous. He was obviously blessed with a howitzer for an arm.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 03 2010 05:21 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="batmagadanleadoff"]"The thing just hissed with danger". (Ty Cobb describing Johnson's fast ball). A video excerpt from Ken Burns' Baseball on Walter Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHV0-Zp3 ... 41&index=2

Slight segue here --

Ken Burns announced plans for a "10th Inning" addition to his aforementioned Baseball documentary. The new chapter will cover 1994-2008 and will run for about four hours. Among the emphasized topics are Barry Bonds, the 1994 strike, the steroid scandal, Japanese import Major Leaguers, the sport's reaction to 9/11 and the long awaited crowning of the Red Sox as WS champs. The 10th Inning is expected to premiere on PBS this October.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... a_innings/

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 09:56 AM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

"Pre-Existing Condition": two words that keep armies of lawyers employed. http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... aiver.html

smg58 Feb 20 2010 11:21 AM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

He's only making the league minimum, deal with it. Put him through waivers, and if somebody takes him in spite of the injury then fine, he's somebody else's problem. If not, free the spot on the 40, let him work his way back to health in the minors, and he still has the chance to be useful at some point. The only reason why I could see this being a problem worth bringing to the commissioner is if the injury is season-threatening. Don't/shouldn't waiver claims get physicals too, though? So has anybody figured out yet why Adam Bostick was never given a spot on the 40?

Nymr83 Feb 20 2010 11:27 AM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Ken Burns announced plans for a "10th Inning" addition to his aforementioned Baseball documentary. The new chapter will cover 1994-2008 and will run for about four hours. Among the emphasized topics are Barry Bonds, the 1994 strike, the steroid scandal, Japanese import Major Leaguers, the sport's reaction to 9/11 and the long awaited crowning of the Red Sox as WS champs. The 10th Inning is expected to premiere on PBS this October Glossing over the Yankees mini-dynasty would be awesome.

Ashie62 Feb 20 2010 11:45 AM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

Terry Bross of St. Johns

Frayed Knot Feb 20 2010 12:54 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

I'll take non-sequiturs for $200 Alex

Edgy DC Feb 20 2010 04:01 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="smg58":7b5j6m0f]He's only making the league minimum, deal with it.[/quote:7b5j6m0f] Sure, but dilligence is what we want, right? If the A's put an injured player on the wiaver wire, they broke the rules. The Metties contributed a claim fee, a roster spot, and maybe more (Christmas bonus?), and they possibly passed on another player or two in the meantime. Not much in the scheme of things, but you don't want to get jerked around.

Ashie62 Feb 20 2010 06:09 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="Frayed Knot"]I'll take non-sequiturs for $200 Alex

And its a video daily double!

[url]http://www.palinaspresident.us/

MFS62 Feb 21 2010 01:37 PM Re: The Mets' own Marshall Plan

[quote="smg58":acwkvf5n] So has anybody figured out yet why Adam Bostick was never given a spot on the 40?[/quote:acwkvf5n] I haven't. And Marshall's status could help (Saucy) Arturo Lopez in his quest to make the 25 man roster. I'll just pause a while to let those words sink in. Later