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It Worked In Toronto, But

MFS62
Jan 31 2010 08:36 AM

how do you think it would go in New York? (Other than the fact that Toronto has a domed stadium)

A sit down Q & A with fans.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... Id=rss_mlb

Interesting.

What questions would you ask?

Later

Gwreck
Jan 31 2010 10:46 AM
Re: It Worked In Toronto, But

It would probably be fine in New York but it would never happen because the Mets don't have to be good or fan-friendly to sell tickets.

That being said, I would obviously ask about why starting pitching was not addressed in the off-season.

Ashie62
Jan 31 2010 12:50 PM
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I'd ask who the real GM is

metirish
Jan 31 2010 02:29 PM
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AGM style meetings are still common in soccer, although that may only be at clubs where the fans have shares.

My question might be to ask them to take me through a five year plan for the org.

Frayed Knot
Jan 31 2010 02:38 PM
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The other thing is that Toronto needs to assure their fans that they're on the right track even after dealing away Halladay and others.
It's one thing for fans to be wary after a bad season or about player(s) not signed from elsewhere, but dealing away a franchise-type player is a sure sign that the club is taking a step back and some convincing is needed that the strategy will be the right move in the long run.

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2010 02:53 PM
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The problem with announcing five-year plans is they're taken as promises.

The plan may be right now to re-sign Jose Reyes during or after the season. But announcing it gives Reyes a ton or two of leverage --- the plan is at stake --- but also locks them in when Hanley Ramirez or somebody may appear on the marketplace.

Ashie62
Jan 31 2010 06:16 PM
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I'd like to see the Mets do something with "The core that couldn't"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 31 2010 06:43 PM
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[quote="Edgy DC":195j7hz5]The problem with announcing five-year plans is they're taken as promises.[/quote:195j7hz5]

IF they include specific proposed transactions, yes. Tenets or governing principles-- "we aim to stay young and athletic at shortstop, and emphasize offensive value as much as defense from the middle-infield positions"-- is just as descriptive, without mooring you to specific players.

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2010 07:01 PM
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Minaya has said as much numerous times, though, hasn't he?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 31 2010 07:40 PM
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And then made moves to the contrary. (Seen any moves made to substantively improve the team's pitching, speed or defense?)

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2010 08:00 PM
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Well, I'm shooting at a moving target here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 31 2010 08:08 PM
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Well, yes... an object that you set in motion tends to remain in motion.

All I'm saying is, I like the Anthopoulos tack. (Zduriencik presided over a similar "Get to Know Us"/FanFest thing last year-- Aaron Heilman's one public appearance as a Sea-Man, IIRC.)

And did he actually lay out a specific five-year plan? I didn't see anything in the MLB article like that.

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2010 08:16 PM
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Not that I know of. I was just trying to shatter irish dreams. I'm lousy that way.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 31 2010 08:29 PM
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You know what you need, ya grumpy bastard? You need to GET YOUR RED ON!

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2010 08:35 PM
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I'll root for the Nats when they close shop and move back to Montreal.

metirish
Jan 31 2010 09:37 PM
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[quote="Edgy DC":2kq9mfzq]Not that I know of. I was just trying to shatter irish dreams. I'm lousy that way.[/quote:2kq9mfzq]


I'd be better off getting my own 5 year plan past 5 weeks & not be wondering about the Mets.

G-Fafif
Jan 31 2010 10:02 PM
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And here I thought this was an old thread about John Olerud.

Ashie62
Feb 01 2010 04:59 AM
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[quote="Frayed Knot"]The other thing is that Toronto needs to assure their fans that they're on the right track even after dealing away Halladay and others.
It's one thing for fans to be wary after a bad season or about player(s) not signed from elsewhere, but dealing away a franchise-type player is a sure sign that the club is taking a step back and some convincing is needed that the strategy will be the right move in the long run.



Yes..the Toronto fans have the patience of Job. I thought when Ricciardi came in they might make a move in the division but fell short and had to become sellers.

It might be a kinder gentler media in Toronto to do this.

I picture such an event in NY turning into a free for all, pissing match, or both.