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The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Edgy DC Mar 05 2010 09:00 AM

[quote="metirish"]Breaking News from Rubin is that Reyes will not play again today.

I need to talk to Ed Price right away.

metirish Mar 05 2010 09:12 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

From NBC Jose Reyes (hamstring) was scratched from Friday's lineup due to a non-baseball related issue. I'd like if the Mets had a comment on this by the end of the day so nothing mushrooms .

metirish Mar 05 2010 09:25 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

More from Rubin and it is potentially not good. UPDATE: May be imbalance in thyroid levels with Reyes. Headed to New York. Test is Monday. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0hJty1tkJ UPDATE II: Reyes said he's had no symptoms and feels fine. He said doctors believe it's an overactive thyroid. The test will be Monday, and result not available for 48 hours after that. Reyes will not be permitted to do physical activity until then. The local doctors had cleared Reyes to play today, but that was overruled when the results were reviewed in New York. "I have to be concerned about it and find out what's going on," Reyes said. "... This is important. We're not talking about my leg. We're talking about my health, so I have to be concerned about it." Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0hJvMIqi4

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 05 2010 09:30 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

Christ.

duan Mar 05 2010 09:33 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

forgive my overactive imagination http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Wells2.html "HGH and its Effects on the Thyroid Gland Dr. Ronald Klatz states "Human growth hormone exerts its actions either directly or indirectly through its intermediary insulin growth factors to every organ system of the body, ........almost nothing escapes its magical touch." Jens Sandahl Christiansen of the Aarthus Kommunehospital of Denmark stated in a report "untreated HGH deficient adults have been shown to have increased cardiovascular mortality, reduced exercise capacity, reduced muscle strength, subnormal glomerular filtration rate and renal plasma flow, defective sweat secretion and defective thermoregulation, reduced energy expenditure and basal metabolic rate, abnormal thyroid hormone metabolism, reduced myocardial function and clinical signs of premature atherosclerosis. Body composition has been found abnormal with increased fat mass, decreased lean body mass, decreased muscle fat ratio, visceral obesity, reduced extracellular fluid volume, and reduced bone mineral content Improving the body's release of and use of HGH is known to help to improve the function of other organs in the body and help to stabilize other hormones in the body, this includes the thyroid gland and thyroid hormone. Many patients who undergo successful HGH therapy see improvements in their hypothyroidism condition. This includes a decrease in their need for thyroid medications. Patients with thyroid problems should consult their private doctor before beginning any HGH therapy. Anyone with hyperthyroidism should not take any HGH product unless it is specifically prescribed to them by their private physician. Anyone with hypothyroidism should see improvements with HGH therapy, however they too should consult their private physician and get permission to begin HGH therapy. When a patient with hypothyroidism begins taking one of my HGH products I always tell them to pay close attention to their body. They should have their thyroid levels checked before beginning therapy with my product, and they should continue to monitor their thyroid levels as the therapy progresses. The reason for this is because the product should improve the function of the thyroid gland, and as the function of the thyroid gland improves, its release of thyroid hormone should also improve and so the need for thyroid medication should decrease. The thyroid levels should be checked after the first 3-4 weeks of therapy with my product, even sooner if the patient notices any symptoms of hyperthyroidism. The patient's private physician will decide if and when the thyroid medication should be decreased or stopped.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 05 2010 09:33 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

UPDATE II: Reyes said he's had no symptoms and feels fine. He said doctors believe it's an overactive thyroid. The test will be Monday, and result not available for 48 hours after that. Reyes will not be permitted to do physical activity until then. Day... to day... to day... to day. It's like déjà vu all over again. My elderly cat had thyroid problems. We treated it, and kept her alive for another couple of years, but putting little pills inside her cat treats. Maybe the Mets should consider the same for Jose. I can give them the phone number of my vet. I figure he can't be any worse than the doctors they already have.* *I wanted to be the first to brush off (and mock) that cliche in 2010.

Ceetar Mar 05 2010 09:39 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Mets @ Cardinals - Jupiter

It's sad that the speculation of HGH has to be brought up for just about everything. On the other hand, Reyes didn't play in any games after seeing that doc, and if it caused a thyroid problem we can be reasonable certain that he's clean going forward (And was clean before hand)

duan Mar 05 2010 09:45 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

well i'll be honest, first thing that got into my head was the desire to get for him a theraputic use exemption, it's unfortunate but look "According to the MLB report issued in January, there were 106 TUEs granted for ADD in the 2008 season. And the increase in TUEs from 28 in 2006 to 103 in 2007 got the attention of Congress in its January 2008 steroids hearing." http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/08/09/lega ... eutic-use/

Methead Mar 05 2010 09:52 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

Unfuckinbelievable.

MFS62 Mar 05 2010 09:56 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

IMO, it seems to be a chicken/egg thing. Was HGH used at all? Did the problem arise after any use of HGH? Was the thyroid problem there before any use of HGH? Did the doctor check for those problems before giving HGH? Then: Did any use of HGH actually contribute to any worseining of a pre-existing thyroid condition? Can a TUE be granted in such a circumstance? Does he need a TUE if he is no longer taking HGH? I'm not sure any additional tests can answer any of those questions. But I hope whatever ails him can be corrected and he can resume playing as quickly as possible. Later

Ceetar Mar 05 2010 10:00 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

[quote="duan":26n0ywej]well i'll be honest, first thing that got into my head was the desire to get for him a theraputic use exemption, it's unfortunate but look "According to the MLB report issued in January, there were 106 TUEs granted for ADD in the 2008 season. And the increase in TUEs from 28 in 2006 to 103 in 2007 got the attention of Congress in its January 2008 steroids hearing." http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/08/09/lega ... eutic-use/[/quote:26n0ywej] I only know what I've heard about this. They 'treat' ADD with amphetamines right? I remember hearing a doctor, I think on Ed Randyll's..(sp) talking baseball show, that said the ADD level in MLB is more than 2x the national average.

Chad Ochoseis Mar 05 2010 10:01 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

I had an overactive thyroid last summer, even without HGH. It's no fun at all - I was sleepy most of the day, the amount of weight I could lift in the gym dropped in half, and I went from being able to run four miles at a comfortable 9-10 minute pace to not being able to run a quarter mile without my heart feeling like Keith Moon's ghost had snuck in there with his drum set. Even at rest, my pulse rate was 100. And I dropped 22 pounds in six weeks. Basically, it weakens your muscles and speeds up your metabolism. It took me about three months to get back to 100%. But I'd had symptoms for a few weeks before I checked into it. Mine took care of itself before my doctor got around to figuring out what to prescribe beyond something to slow down my heart rate. That doesn't usually happen, but if it doesn't resolve itself, it's treatable with meds.

metirish Mar 05 2010 10:03 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

I know from seeing patients in my job that several of them that have thyroid problems all seem to have at times severe weight increases and decreases , this is a scary thing indeed that can involve a lot of trial and error with medications. EDIT - The typical patient population we have here are older folks with other health issues too.

MFS62 Mar 05 2010 10:14 AM Re: Marlins @ NY Mets - PSL - Reyes Sent Back to NY

[quote="metirish":2tzhnxrz]EDIT - The typical patient population we have here are older folks with other health issues too.[/quote:2tzhnxrz] Just curious. The quote from the Doctor above mentioned that thyroid problems can cause swings in Insulin. Are many of those folks with "other health issues" Diabetic? That can also cause muscle loss. When that happened to me, I went to the Doctor and that's when I found out that I was Type II Diabetic. Later

metirish Mar 05 2010 10:26 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Mostly pulmonary would be the main reason they are in the lab.

Ashie62 Mar 05 2010 10:35 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

ADD is treated with Adderall or Ritalin..both are stimulants..and abused by many Thyroid issue can be a sign of clinical depression Beyond that another sign Citifield was built on an Indian burial ground

Edgy DC Mar 05 2010 10:40 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Russ Adams' stock price just went up. Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.

Ashie62 Mar 05 2010 10:47 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":1sqd8wi8]Russ Adams' stock price just went up. Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:1sqd8wi8] Correctamundo

Gwreck Mar 05 2010 11:03 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

I don't understand. Are there no doctors in Florida?

Ashie62 Mar 05 2010 11:05 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Gwreck":3fhx9na3]I don't understand. Are there no doctors in Florida?[/quote:3fhx9na3] It was NY or the doctors in LA

Ashie62 Mar 05 2010 11:10 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Thyroid Disorders See also Low Thyroid Questionnaire The thyroid gland produces various hormones used by the body and thyroid disorders cause various symptoms. The two main types are hypothyroidism (too little hormone) such as Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and hyperthyroidism (too much hormone) such as Graves’ disease. Both conditions can be difficult to diagnose because they product relatively mild symptoms. Hence, thyroid disorders are often misdiagnosed as depression, aging or other causes of tiredness, fatigue, or forgetfulness. Therefore, a thyroid disorder is a possibility that must be ruled out in diagnoses of conditions such as depression, fibromyalgia, lupus, sleep disorders, and various other conditions. Fortunately, diagnosis of thyroid problems is relatively specific by blood or saliva tests of thyroid hormone levels. Thyroid disorders are treatable, but can be serious if untreated, so any suspicion of thyroid problems needs to be confirmed promptly by a doctor.

metirish Mar 05 2010 11:11 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Thankfully Omar is here to explain the thinking behind the decision. Newsday "Our New York doctors double-checked it," Minaya said. "He was given the clearance to go by the Florida doctors here, between yesterday and today, our New York doctors saw it and after further review, they'd rather see him in New York, and that's where we are." I think it's probably they're being conservative and cautious," Minaya said. "All I can tell you is that they looked at it, they felt it was something that he could move forward and play, our doctors said, hey you know what, we'd rather if you want to use the word be more conservative, we wanted to bring him to New York. I know he wanted to go out there and play today, he would love to be playing, but I think it's better that we're cautious and that's what we're doing right now." Got that?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 05 2010 11:13 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":2sv0k3l7]Russ Adams' stock price just went up. Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:2sv0k3l7] Reuben Tejada is 20½ years old, and hit .289 and slugged .381 and OBP'ed .351 in a full season at Binghamton last year. He didn't do nearly as well in St. Lucie in 2008. (.229, .296, and .293) I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 05 2010 11:14 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

How the hell do you rank a Great Communicator like that #26 out of 30 GMs? I'm thinking that Cora may just have "earned" his vest. I'm so glad that O skipped on kicking Lopez' tires.

Edgy DC Mar 05 2010 11:19 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":38dmm5qd]I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?[/quote:38dmm5qd] Certainly preferable to see a prospect assert his qualities than a journeyman fall into a job. But I don't see Tejada breaking camp with the team under too many scenarios.

Ashie62 Mar 05 2010 11:20 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":3j6zwrgo][quote="Edgy DC":3j6zwrgo]Russ Adams' stock price just went up. Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:3j6zwrgo] Reuben Tejada is 20½ years old, and hit .289 and slugged .381 and OBP'ed .351 in a full season at Binghamton last year. He didn't do nearly as well in St. Lucie in 2008. (.229, .296, and .293) I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?[/quote:3j6zwrgo] Yes..and if it's long term I've had it with Reyes, even hopefully through no fault of his own..The potential reward is not worth the perpetual agony

Ceetar Mar 05 2010 02:08 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

lenno212 Dr. Andrew Martorella, a thyroid specialist at Weil-Cornell, says Reyes' condition "very common, very treatable and completely curable."

metirish Mar 05 2010 02:13 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Ceetar":3vl9eb8s]lenno212 Dr. Andrew Martorella, a thyroid specialist at Weil-Cornell, says Reyes' condition "very common, very treatable and completely curable."[/quote:3vl9eb8s] Looks like a good source too http://www.md212.com/ perhaps he will end up seeing him as he has consulting privileges at the Hospital for Special Surgery.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 05 2010 02:27 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Send him to Germany anyway. If he can't play until next week, who needs him? Why should we be forced to suffer so?

G-Fafif Mar 05 2010 02:37 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":1t446d6n]Send him to Germany anyway.[/quote:1t446d6n] Perhaps to become a more efficient baserunner?

Ceetar Mar 05 2010 02:43 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="G-Fafif":3e36e24u][quote="Benjamin Grimm":3e36e24u]Send him to Germany anyway.[/quote:3e36e24u] Perhaps to become a more efficient baserunner?[/quote:3e36e24u] Jose Reyes: Faster than the Blitzkrieg

smg58 Mar 05 2010 06:27 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Don't panic. This kind of ailment requires medication, not DL time. He's not going to miss any games that count over this.

Kong76 Mar 05 2010 06:58 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Agreed, I know two people who just take a pill everyday.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 05 2010 07:44 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Great! And maybe that thyroid medication will also take care of that annoying celebrating and showoff fast-running!

Edgy DC Mar 05 2010 08:14 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="smg58":2phfgqvg]Don't panic. This kind of ailment requires medication, not DL time. He's not going to miss any games that count over this.[/quote:2phfgqvg] Too late, I've already banished him to Germany.

Kong76 Mar 06 2010 07:52 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

LWFS: maybe that thyroid medication will also take care of that annoying celebrating and showoff fast-running! <<< If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored, and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug- out steps and farted baseballs.

Ashie62 Mar 06 2010 08:05 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Does Germany have a WBC team?

Ashie62 Mar 06 2010 08:10 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Most thyroid issues are easily treated with medication Hopefully the side effects of the pill won't cause Jose to feel too sick to function for too long They can be difficult on non-athletes

MFS62 Mar 06 2010 08:24 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Kong76":rmdulhpx] If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored, and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug- out steps and farted baseballs.[/quote:rmdulhpx] If he does that, I'm gonna' make sure I have my camera ready. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 06 2010 09:12 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="MFS62"][quote="Kong76"] If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored, and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug- out steps and farted baseballs.

If he does that, I'm gonna' make sure I have my camera ready. Later I would pay just to see that, I think. (Field Level.)

metsguyinmichigan Mar 06 2010 09:44 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Would be more entertaining that that thing that shoots t-shirts into the stands.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 06 2010 09:47 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Klapisch, weirdly, with an affecting look at Reyes. (And-- if you're prone to aneurysms, do not continue reading-- factually accurate, too.) PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. – Jose Reyes was surrounded by reporters in the third base dugout at Tradition Field, doing a lousy job of hiding his nervousness. He’d just gotten a message from his doctors that would’ve sent anyone’s heart on a fast sprint. More tests. You bet Reyes is frightened today. “We’re talking about my health,” he said before being rushed to New York to learn if he has an overactive thyroid, and if so, why. The condition could be managed with medication or might disappear on its own. Medical experts are confident Reyes faces no long-term risk, but that wasn’t enough to calm the shortstop, who’s already had enough bad luck for an entire career. Understand this about Reyes: his horizons are narrow, innocent, built solely around baseball. Reyes is the anti-Alex Rodriguez, the society-page hound. He doesn’t talk about the elections the way Mike Piazza used to, or work crossword puzzles like Mike Mussina. Reyes has no clue how to maneuver around clubhouse politics like Keith Hernandez, the master, did a generation ago. All Reyes knows is the beauty of going first-to-third in a blur, scooping short hops and firing those missiles across the infield to first base. He craves the simple life of a ballplayer. Without it, Reyes looks lost, if not altogether unhinged. “Knowing Jose, he can’t live without baseball,” Carlos Beltran was saying. “This is what he does.” The Mets’ center fielder was sitting in the clubhouse a few hours after the shortstop had packed up and left the spring training complex. Beltran is out until May, recovering from a serious knee operation – his career in greater jeopardy than Reyes’. Yet it was Beltran who acted as the organization’s voice of reason. He said Reyes should look at the possible imbalance in his thyroid levels as a “relief” because, for once, this has nothing to do with his hamstrings. That’s what it comes to for Reyes – after years of chronic leg injuries, an overactive thyroid hardly qualified as an emergency. Still, you wouldn’t have traded places with Reyes this week. Not after the way he’d been jerked around by the fates and, yes, the doctors, too. Reyes was poised to make his spring training debut against the Cardinals on Thursday, his first time on the field since May 20. It had been a long, miserable journey after his initial hamstring injury – the rehab lasted weeks, months even. Reyes spent the summer rehabbing in Port St. Lucie, getting nowhere. The whispering campaign grew louder. The nice-guy Reyes was, maybe, too nice to play with a little pain. But the cloud of cynicism evaporated when he tore the hamstring once and for all in September, forcing the doctors to operate. In a bizarre way, the surgeon’s knife excised the cancer in Reyes’ reputation. He was finally vindicated, but he just didn’t have it in him to call out the haters. Instead, Reyes instead poured himself into his winter rehab, declaring himself ready for action this week. His name was posted on the wall in the clubhouse – batting in the No. 3 spot, playing shortstop. Just like Beltran said, this was the moment Reyes was waiting for. This was the beginning of his new life as a healthy Met. Only it wasn’t. The local doctors saw something they didn’t like in Reyes’ blood work, summoning him back to the lab for more tests. Reyes said he felt “fine” and couldn’t understand the confusion. His energy level was normal, no excessive sweating or tremors. The condition was a mystery to him. Still, Reyes had no choice but to comply. He left the ballpark, underwent the secondary test and, to his relief, was told he was healthy again. “Thank God,” Reyes said as he reignited the engine one more time, penciled in against the Marlins on Friday. It was a perfect day for the unveiling – sunny, albeit brisk, low humidity, a friendly Mets’ crowd pulling into the parking lots. And then it happened again. Reyes was tapped on the shoulder by a Mets’ official, who told him the team’s New York-based doctors were overruling the local medical team. The all-clear was rescinded, replaced by the dreaded message: more tests. “I have to be concerned about it and find out what’s going on,” Reyes was saying. “This is important, maybe more important than baseball. We’re not talking about my leg. That’s even worse. I have to be concerned about it.” Outsiders are no doubt wondering if Reyes is paying the price for his unconventional therapies, which include PRP blood-spinning. He’s been interviewed by the FBI because an association with a Canadian doctor, Tony Galea, who is accused of smuggling HGH into this country. Reyes denies he’s ever taken HGH, and has never tested positive for steroids. The numerous breakdowns in 2003 and 2004 were never explained. But it’s also true Reyes was healthy for four straight seasons, when no one seemed to doubt him anymore. In 2006 the Mets had one of the five best players in the National League, when he hit 19 home runs, stole an NL-best 64 bases and rapped 17 triples. Best of all, Reyes was only 23. Today, he’s a little older and lot more bewildered. “I just have to find out what’s going on,” Reyes said. He’s hoping for the best but, like anyone reaching for the door to the doctor’s office, fearing the worst.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2010 12:24 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

As per Adam Rubin on the "Surfing the Mets" blog(and a few others): Jose Reyes was at the Hospital for Special Surgery this morning. The Mets don't expect results for 24 to 48 hours. Reyes will be under orders not to do physical exertion at least until then.

Valadius Mar 08 2010 09:42 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

That means no nightclubs, Jose!

Edgy DC Mar 09 2010 06:10 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Well, the tests confirm a hyperthyroid of overactivness. More tests. More waiteyness. More Germany.

Ashie62 Mar 09 2010 07:39 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Removing the thyroid and taking a daily pill can be easier than regulating the hormones, especially if it turns out to be Graves disease

seawolf17 Mar 09 2010 08:00 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Ashie62"]Removing the thyroid and taking a daily pill can be easier than regulating the hormones, especially if it turns out to be Graves disease

What a hilarious disease. "You see, Dunn was over Unger, and I was over Dunn."

attgig Mar 10 2010 06:38 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

and chapter 2 of the drama between the bizarre triangle of player, doctors, and team continues to unfold this season. chapter 1 being beltran. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring201 ... id=4980758 Reyes' thyroid condition debated The New York Mets say Jose Reyes has an overactive thyroid, but the shortstop isn't buying it. The team said on Tuesday that Reyes is expected to remain in New York while the results of additional blood tests are used to determine his treatment after tests confirmed he has an overactive thyroid. But Reyes told ESPNDeportes.com's Enrique Rojas later Tuesday: "The specialists who took care of me in New York have told me that I'm fine and that there's nothing wrong with my thyroid. The test [taken to follow one conducted during his physical] showed that I'm fine. We just have to wait for the results of the additional test. The [doctors] found inflammation in my throat and no medicine to treat the thyroid or any other condition has been prescribed." Doctors cleared Reyes to play Friday. But team doctors in New York wanted to take a closer look at the speedster and pulled him out of pregame stretching. Reyes said Friday he felt fine and has not experienced any dizziness, fatigue or any other symptoms of a thyroid problem. The additional test results aren't expected back before Thursday. Reyes missed most of last season with an injured right leg. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. Enrique Rojas covers baseball for ESPNDeportes.com.

Edgy DC Mar 10 2010 07:16 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Seems absolutely normal. The player is itching to go and the team is more cautious. Nothing bizarre there. If anything, being less cautious and letting Ryan Church play (and fly) was bizarre. I'm not sure why Klapisch article would be aneurysm-inducing. It's the best imitation of writing with perspective I've seen him do in a long time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 10 2010 07:20 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":btqghw9t]I'm not sure why Klapisch article would be aneurysm-inducing. It's the best imitation of writing with perspective I've seen him do in a long time.[/quote:btqghw9t] Klapisch writing that is like watching your mailman deliver your mail, then jump up and disappear-- it doesn't compute.

Edgy DC Mar 10 2010 07:40 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Ah, I see. I always knew the guy could write. It's just writing fairly that challenges him. It's almost like he's better than his colleagues but believes distortion and prejudice and scapegoating and beating on whipping boys... well, that's the way the game has to be played, so he's going to play it better than anyone.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 10 2010 10:06 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

My primary problem with his stuff-- outside of what you'd mentioned-- is his contorting the facts/personalities at play to fit preconceived narratives... it's as if he decides on the story about midway through the fact-collection process, and spends the rest of the time blithely indulging his confirmation bias or, worse, willfully leaving out parts of the narrative that don't fit. The Reyes thing, I think, is a rare intersection of circumstances-meeting-narrative (Reyes-as-naif, which sorta works here) and a (rare for him) instance of writerly empathy.

Edgy DC Mar 10 2010 12:45 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Rubin is hinting this may be winding down. [quote="Adam Rubin":1xbxhp50]While the Mets will not comment on the course of action required to treat Jose Reyes until all the test results are in, a source tells the Daily News that Reyes is in reasonably good shape. The most extensive change for Reyes could be a dietary modification — which is pretty insignificant. No radioactive iodine treatment may be required, the source indicated, although the person did not want to conclusively declare that to be the case and end up incorrect later.[/quote:1xbxhp50]

batmagadanleadoff Mar 11 2010 07:12 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Joe Posnanski on the Mets and the thyroid of Jose Reyes: Of course, different people have different ideas about what makes an exciting baseball player. But, in general, the blueprint would look an awful lot like Jose Reyes. In fact, not that long ago, Bill James and I plotted out a formula (admittedly the formula is a lot more me than Bill -- he just offered suggestions) to try and determine the most exciting players in baseball. I lost that original formula, but I tried to recreate it, taking into account triples (the most exciting play in baseball!), stolen bases, batting average, defensive excitement (subjective) and a couple of other things. I'm pretty sure I created the most wildly flawed formula to appear on the Internet today. Here then, according to this wildly flawed formula, are the 11 most exciting seasons of the last 25 years: 1. Jose Reyes, 2006. 2. Jose Reyes, 2008 3. Jimmy Rollins, 2007 4. Ichiro Suzuki, 2001 5. Carl Crawford, 2004 6. Jose Reyes, 2007 7. Chuck Knoblauch, 1996. 8. Hanley Ramirez, 2006 9. Tony Gwynn, 1987 10. Tim Raines, 1985 11. Carlos Beltran, 2001. Obviously, you can create your own formula -- and I hope you will -- but the point is that at least according to one fairly standard view, Reyes defined exciting baseball. He hit lots of triples. He also hit doubles and a few home runs. He led the league in stolen bases three years in a row. He made dazzling plays at shortstop. Sure, there were always people who thought Reyes needed to get on base more and could have been a touch steadier defensively. But that stuff would come! The point with Reyes was excitement. He was exciting. The Mets were exciting. Anyway, that's how it was in 2006, when Reyes was 23 years old and the Mets won 97 games. That's also how it was in 2007, when Reyes stole 78 bases -- most in 20 years -- and the Mets led the National League East by seven games in mid-September, you know, before losing 12 of their last 17 and blowing it to the Phillies. Oh well, there was excitement even then. The Mets signed the best pitcher in baseball, Johan Santana. Reyes has probably his best season -- led the league with 204 hits and 19 triples, stole 56 bases. And the Mets led the National League East by 3½ games in mid-September, you know, before losing four of their next five and never again getting back into first place. Sure, the late season fadeouts hurt. They hurt a lot. But -- and it's easy to forget this -- the Mets still looked to be in awfully good shape. Reyes was exciting. Santana was dazzling. Third baseman David Wright was one of the best players in baseball. Center fielder Carlos Beltran was one of the best players in baseball. Carlos Delgado had hit 38 home runs -- the 11th time in 12 years he hit 30-plus homers. Francisco Rodriguez came to New York after he had set the single-season save record in Anaheim -- finally, the Mets had their answer for the Great Rivera. So, how did it all go so wrong? Just look at the Mets now. They are now arguing over Jose Reyes' thyroid. That's the big story at Mets camp these days. The Mets seem to believe -- based on what they're hearing from doctors -- that Reyes has an overactive thyroid. Reyes seems to believe -- based on what he's hearing from doctors -- that his thyroid is fine. Everybody is waiting for the results from the latest tests. These days, Jose Reyes' thyroid has the third highest Q-Rating in New York, behind only David Paterson and David Letterman. It could get its own show by the weekend. Of course, the thyroid talk is just an emblem of the Mets' issues -- of Carlos Beltran's knee surgery, of David Wright's power outage, of Carlos Delgado's hip injury, of the surgery Johan Santana had to remove bone chips, of the Mets' abominable 70-92 record last year.* * The Mets became the first team in baseball history to spend $140 million (well, $149 million and some change) and have a losing record. Here is a list of all the teams to spend $140 million on payroll in a season and their win total: 2009 Mets: 70 wins 2009 Yankees: 103 wins 2008 Yankees: 89 wins 2007 Yankees: 94 wins 2007 Red Sox: 96 wins 2006 Yankees: 97 wins 2005 Yankees: 95 wins 2004 Yankees: 101 wins 2003 Yankees: 101 wins In other words, the thyroid talk is just the latest in a whole bunch of really weird things to happen to the Mets. Of course, Mets fans -- at least the ones I hear from all the time -- seem to think this is all just part of being ... Mets fans. It's all part of the tradition. The Mets have a proud history of "The Mets Being The Mets" that, of course, goes back to the 1962 team that most people would agree was the worst baseball team of the last 100 years. The teams that followed were not much better -- until the 1969 Miracle Mets and the 1973 Ya Gotta Believe Mets. Then, the late 1970s, another dreadful lull, that time when Joe Torre came to understand that it's hard to be a genius with Lenny Randle at third, Doug Flynn at second and Craig Swan as your Opening Day starter. Then, came the great mid-80s Mets that didn't win quite as much as they should have won. Then came the dreadful early 1990s Mets, the good-but-not-good enough late 1990s Mets, the dreadful early 2000s Mets, and finally this team dealing with a spotty lineup, a spotty rotation and a thyroid problem. The thing is, that if they could stop the bad momentum ... this Mets team has talent. Johan Santana, if he's healthy, is as good as anybody. Beltran appears to be on the mend after knee surgery -- he says that he's feeling better about his knee than he has in years. You would like to believe that David Wright, having worked out whatever swing problems he had last year, will return to being a terrific player. Jason Bay gives the Mets a strong middle-of-the lineup bat. The rotation -- with 20-somethings Mike Pelfrey, John Maine and Oliver Perez -- could be OK, and K-Rod is still a top closer no matter what Goose Gossage may have said about him.* * I guess Gossage called K-Rod a "clown" because of his theatrics on the field, and K-Rod responded by saying he had never heard of Gossage. So, that went well. Gossage also suggested that while Mariano Rivera is the best "modern reliever," he prefers himself and the 52 saves in which he got at least seven outs. Rivera, he points out, only has two of those. Case closed. And while this is off-topic, it should be pointed out that Gossage does not have the most seven-out saves in baseball history, and he doesn't have the second most, and he doesn't have the third, fourth, fifth or sixth-most either. One of his teammates, Sparky Lyle, had more. The list of most saves, 7-or-more outs: 1. Rollie Fingers, 74 saves 2. Dan Quisenberry, 65 saves 3. Gene Garber, 64 saves 4. Hoyt Wilhelm, 61 saves 5. Mike Marshall, 57 saves 6. Sparky Lyle, 56 saves 7. Goose Gossage, 52 saves 8. Lindy McDaniel, 51 saves 9. Bill Campbell, 49 saves 10. Bob Stanley, 48 saves. And then there's Jose Reyes. He was hurt for almost all of the 2009 season. He has had a rough camp with his thyroid issues and with the FBI questioning him about his connection to Canadian doctor Tony Galea, who has been charged with conspiring to smuggle HgH into the U.S. But here's the thing. He's only 26 years old. He says that he feels healthy. He still has the talent to be one of the most exciting players in the game. And he and the Mets are due for something good ... it has to happen one of these days. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/w ... ose.reyes/

Edgy DC Mar 11 2010 07:29 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Now that went off on a few tangents.

bmfc1 Mar 11 2010 10:50 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

ARGH! Ledger_NYMets Agent says Reyes will need to rest for two to eight weeks. So now Mets could be without Reyes and Beltran on Opening Day.

metirish Mar 11 2010 10:54 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

His agent is saying this?....I see a big cluster fuck going on here with he said they said ....poor Reyes.

HahnSolo Mar 11 2010 10:58 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

ESPN radio just broke in and said that Omar said Reyes will be out "2 weeks to 2 months" to rest his overactive thryoid.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2010 10:59 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

There's detail on Metsblog. I hate the whole thing but this is what pisses me off the most: Minaya says that when Reyes returns to camp, he will need to be built up again, “as far as running and those types of things,” coming off his injury. He said that this is why he went out and re-signed Alex Cora this offseason. Oh, FU Omar.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2010 11:02 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

The Mets broadcasters are saying he'll need eight weeks of rest.

metirish Mar 11 2010 11:02 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 11 2010 11:03 AM

Fuck

metirish Mar 11 2010 11:03 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]There's detail on Metsblog. I hate the whole thing but this is what pisses me off the most: Minaya says that when Reyes returns to camp, he will need to be built up again, “as far as running and those types of things,” coming off his injury. He said that this is why he went out and re-signed Alex Cora this offseason. Oh, FU Omar.

Omar the visionary ....

Edgy DC Mar 11 2010 11:10 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

The Mets will get hung for this six different ways, but it's not their fault and they may, in fact, be the heroes here.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2010 11:17 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Now Keith is saying it's two to eight weeks. I feel bad for Jose, especially if this isn't caused by any controlled substance. The reports on him were so positive; his legs feel great, he's missed playing baseball, he hit that triple and poured it on, he was prepared for a big year, and then this comes along seemingly out of nowhere.

attgig Mar 11 2010 11:41 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

so, if we expect the worst, the line up is now.... what? 09 part two... *sigh*

Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2010 11:43 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

I hope that Jerry lets Tejada get his chance to show what he can do over the next couple of weeks, or more. Otherwise, does Cora get this job by default? Or is Catalanotto a candidate?

metirish Mar 11 2010 12:05 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Joe Posnanski has a nice column about Jose and all today Jose Reyes' thyroid problem? With the Mets it's always something Of course, different people have different ideas about what makes an exciting baseball player. But, in general, the blueprint would look an awful lot like Jose Reyes. In fact, not that long ago, Bill James and I plotted out a formula (admittedly the formula is a lot more me than Bill -- he just offered suggestions) to try and determine the most exciting players in baseball. I lost that original formula, but I tried to recreate it, taking into account triples (the most exciting play in baseball!), stolen bases, batting average, defensive excitement (subjective) and a couple of other things. I'm pretty sure I created the most wildly flawed formula to appear on the Internet today. Here then, according to this wildly flawed formula, are the 11 most exciting seasons of the last 25 years: 1. Jose Reyes, 2006. 2. Jose Reyes, 2008 3. Jimmy Rollins, 2007 4. Ichiro Suzuki, 2001 5. Carl Crawford, 2004 6. Jose Reyes, 2007 7. Chuck Knoblauch, 1996. 8. Hanley Ramirez, 2006 9. Tony Gwynn, 1987 10. Tim Raines, 1985 11. Carlos Beltran, 2001. Obviously, you can create your own formula -- and I hope you will -- but the point is that at least according to one fairly standard view, Reyes defined exciting baseball. He hit lots of triples. He also hit doubles and a few home runs. He led the league in stolen bases three years in a row. He made dazzling plays at shortstop. Sure, there were always people who thought Reyes needed to get on base more and could have been a touch steadier defensively. But that stuff would come! The point with Reyes was excitement. He was exciting. The Mets were exciting. Anyway, that's how it was in 2006, when Reyes was 23 years old and the Mets won 97 games. That's also how it was in 2007, when Reyes stole 78 bases -- most in 20 years -- and the Mets led the National League East by seven games in mid-September, you know, before losing 12 of their last 17 and blowing it to the Phillies. Oh well, there was excitement even then. The Mets signed the best pitcher in baseball, Johan Santana. Reyes has probably his best season -- led the league with 204 hits and 19 triples, stole 56 bases. And the Mets led the National League East by 3½ games in mid-September, you know, before losing four of their next five and never again getting back into first place. Sure, the late season fadeouts hurt. They hurt a lot. But -- and it's easy to forget this -- the Mets still looked to be in awfully good shape. Reyes was exciting. Santana was dazzling. Third baseman David Wright was one of the best players in baseball. Center fielder Carlos Beltran was one of the best players in baseball. Carlos Delgado had hit 38 home runs -- the 11th time in 12 years he hit 30-plus homers. Francisco Rodriguez came to New York after he had set the single-season save record in Anaheim -- finally, the Mets had their answer for the Great Rivera. So, how did it all go so wrong? Just look at the Mets now. They are now arguing over Jose Reyes' thyroid. That's the big story at Mets camp these days. The Mets seem to believe -- based on what they're hearing from doctors -- that Reyes has an overactive thyroid. Reyes seems to believe -- based on what he's hearing from doctors -- that his thyroid is fine. Everybody is waiting for the results from the latest tests. These days, Jose Reyes' thyroid has the third highest Q-Rating in New York, behind only David Paterson and David Letterman. It could get its own show by the weekend. Of course, the thyroid talk is just an emblem of the Mets' issues -- of Carlos Beltran's knee surgery, of David Wright's power outage, of Carlos Delgado's hip injury, of the surgery Johan Santana had to remove bone chips, of the Mets' abominable 70-92 record last year.* * The Mets became the first team in baseball history to spend $140 million (well, $149 million and some change) and have a losing record. Here is a list of all the teams to spend $140 million on payroll in a season and their win total: 2009 Mets: 70 wins 2009 Yankees: 103 wins 2008 Yankees: 89 wins 2007 Yankees: 94 wins 2007 Red Sox: 96 wins 2006 Yankees: 97 wins 2005 Yankees: 95 wins 2004 Yankees: 101 wins 2003 Yankees: 101 wins In other words, the thyroid talk is just the latest in a whole bunch of really weird things to happen to the Mets. Of course, Mets fans -- at least the ones I hear from all the time -- seem to think this is all just part of being ... Mets fans. It's all part of the tradition. The Mets have a proud history of "The Mets Being The Mets" that, of course, goes back to the 1962 team that most people would agree was the worst baseball team of the last 100 years. The teams that followed were not much better -- until the 1969 Miracle Mets and the 1973 Ya Gotta Believe Mets. Then, the late 1970s, another dreadful lull, that time when Joe Torre came to understand that it's hard to be a genius with Lenny Randle at third, Doug Flynn at second and Craig Swan as your Opening Day starter. Then, came the great mid-80s Mets that didn't win quite as much as they should have won. Then came the dreadful early 1990s Mets, the good-but-not-good enough late 1990s Mets, the dreadful early 2000s Mets, and finally this team dealing with a spotty lineup, a spotty rotation and a thyroid problem. The thing is, that if they could stop the bad momentum ... this Mets team has talent. Johan Santana, if he's healthy, is as good as anybody. Beltran appears to be on the mend after knee surgery -- he says that he's feeling better about his knee than he has in years. You would like to believe that David Wright, having worked out whatever swing problems he had last year, will return to being a terrific player. Jason Bay gives the Mets a strong middle-of-the lineup bat. The rotation -- with 20-somethings Mike Pelfrey, John Maine and Oliver Perez -- could be OK, and K-Rod is still a top closer no matter what Goose Gossage may have said about him.*

metirish Mar 11 2010 12:08 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

"There is no medication for this," Minaya said. "We heard it could be something that could have been dietary or it could have been a virus," Minaya said. Wait , I thought all he had to take was a pill?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2010 12:10 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Why take a pill when you could rest for eight weeks?

metirish Mar 11 2010 12:15 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":rdavcpp7]Why take a pill when you could rest for eight weeks?[/quote:rdavcpp7] With pay....he's like Conan O'Brien now.

TransMonk Mar 11 2010 12:16 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

I hat baseball.

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 12:22 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

I wasn't serious last year when I said Reyes would never play another game as a Met..but.. 2009 de ja vu....

Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2010 12:22 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Adam Rubin":1nslww4p]Minaya said 20-year-old Ruben Tejada could be the Mets' Opening Day shortstop, with Alex Cora also an option. The switch-hitting Tejada is somewhat used to a big stage, having represented Panama in the World Baseball Classic. He makes solid contact, but he has a small, 6-foot, 160-pound frame and isn't projected to hit for much power. Tejada hit .289 with five homers and 46 RBI in 488 at-bats with Double-A Binghamton last season. It's a huge blow to the Mets, who already are without Carlos Beltran, likely until mid-May. Jerry Manuel hoped to use Reyes in the No. 3 hole until Beltran returned. "The good thing is Ruben Tejada is playing pretty well," Minaya said. "I know Jerry has been playing him. And that's one of the reasons we went out there and were able to get a guy like a Cora. Then again, let's wait and see how the end of spring training goes."[/quote:1nslww4p]

Number 6 Mar 11 2010 12:27 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":2rglyvdy]I feel bad for Jose, especially if this isn't caused by any controlled substance.[/quote:2rglyvdy] Fuck it, I feel bad for us.

Ceetar Mar 11 2010 01:08 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":l9pclkj6]The Mets will get hung for this six different ways, but it's not their fault and they may, in fact, be the heroes here.[/quote:l9pclkj6] Impossible to predict or plan for. And really, they may have saved Reyes from having more complications down the line, health wise. Let's just hope that this is as minor as it's hinted at, it's closer to 2 weeks (and technically it's already been 1 right?) for the iodine to get through his system and his thyroid levels to go down, and he's cleared for baseball next week. *crosses fingers* I don't know what else to do at this point.

Centerfield Mar 11 2010 01:10 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

How did Omar know that Reyes had a thyroid issue before he had the thyroid issue? And if he did know that, why didn't he tell anyone? He's ruining us!

Ceetar Mar 11 2010 01:21 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Centerfield":2ca4u0we]How did Omar know that Reyes had a thyroid issue before he had the thyroid issue? And if he did know that, why didn't he tell anyone? He's ruining us![/quote:2ca4u0we] Obviously, Omar recommended this great seafood place to Reyes, and he's eaten there for every meal since November. He's also been sprinkling iodine in his water bottle.

attgig Mar 11 2010 01:22 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

any updates on beltran's health? maybe he's ahead of schedule? maybe???

Fman99 Mar 11 2010 01:38 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Man, if Alex Cora and Angel Pagan* are in the opening day lineup I will be sad. *Just typing this made me throw up in my mouth.

metirish Mar 11 2010 01:42 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Fman99"]Man, if Alex Cora and Angel Pagan* are in the opening day lineup I will be sad. *Just typing this made me throw up in my mouth.

That's the only reason you are gagging Fman?

Ceetar Mar 11 2010 02:00 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="attgig":393ggx07]any updates on beltran's health? maybe he's ahead of schedule? maybe???[/quote:393ggx07] Would you believe them if they said so? Last I heard was he should begin baseball activity when the Mets leave Florida. I don't see how baseball activity takes a month, but we'll see. I'm still going to close my eyes and pretend Jose's test next week comes back all clear.

HahnSolo Mar 11 2010 03:04 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

"The good thing is Ruben Tejada is playing pretty well," Minaya said. "I know Jerry has been playing him. And that's one of the reasons we went out there and were able to get a guy like a Cora." How is that one of the reasons you were able to go and get a guy like Cora? I thought the primary reason you got a guy like Cora is that he had few other suitors. "I have no time to unravel your logic Murray."

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 04:31 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

If Tejada plays well in Jose's absence the Mets have their next SS of the future. Then, if and when healthy, the Mets can do with Reyes what they wish as long as it doesn't involve a safeword

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2010 05:20 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Right, because a few weeks from a mediocre prospect certainly trumps 5 years of major league accomplishments.

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 05:52 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Frayed Knot":2qkrfkqq]Right, because a few weeks from a mediocre prospect certainly trumps 5 years of major league accomplishments.[/quote:2qkrfkqq] 4 full years from Reyes, that is granted. I am not that impressed by a player that is a perpetual question mark no matter how good they are.

Edgy DC Mar 11 2010 06:03 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

All players are question marks. None are statements. That includes, especially, 20-year-olds who have never played above AA and didn't put up such eye-popping numbers there. This seems obvious.

Fman99 Mar 11 2010 06:11 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="metirish"][quote="Fman99"]Man, if Alex Cora and Angel Pagan* are in the opening day lineup I will be sad. *Just typing this made me throw up in my mouth.

That's the only reason you are gagging Fman? OH NO YOU DI-INT

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 08:38 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":35llxha0]All players are question marks. None are statements. That includes, especially, 20-year-olds who have never played above AA and didn't put up such eye-popping numbers there. This seems obvious.[/quote:35llxha0] Some question marks are more equal than others????? If you were the Mets GM, how do you, or would you, plan for the next "generation" core. Omar brought in Pedro, Delgado ,had Reyes & Wright and threw up a flag that he was building a team to win now. That was a few years ago..The Mets haven't won anything other than a few playoff games. The Mets are perceived as bumblers and the links on this board from sportswriters would lead you to believe the Mets have done little right since inception and don't know how to tie their shoes. I take solace that "Sports Journalism" is an oxymoron. Is it possible that it is time to start building a newer youthful core??? I don't know but am beginning to wonder. Make David Wright a Met for life and beyond that all jobs are open competition, sans Santana A hard rain is gonna fall

Edgy DC Mar 11 2010 08:54 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Accepting your list of facts as actual facts for the time being, breaking camp without Ruben Tejada on the roster doesn't offset in any way the development of a "new youthful core." Again, that's obvious.

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 09:06 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Obvious to who?

Edgy DC Mar 11 2010 09:12 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Anybody.

Ashie62 Mar 11 2010 09:25 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Edgy DC":itclsfzq]Anybody.[/quote:itclsfzq] Can we poll "anybody" Come on now...

MFS62 Mar 12 2010 08:10 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 12 2010 09:16 AM

Moved to the shortstop poll thread. Later

Frayed Knot Mar 12 2010 08:18 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Ashie62"]If you were the Mets GM, how do you, or would you, plan for the next "generation" core. Omar brought in Pedro, Delgado ,had Reyes & Wright and threw up a flag that he was building a team to win now. That was a few years ago..The Mets haven't won anything other than a few playoff games. The Mets are perceived as bumblers and the links on this board from sportswriters would lead you to believe the Mets have done little right since inception and don't know how to tie their shoes ... Make David Wright a Met for life and beyond that all jobs are open competition, sans Santana

The point is that making room for Tejeda - being nowhere near the prospect that Reyes was at the same age much less what Reyes has become since reaching the majors - by moving out Jose based on nothing more than short trial forced this (by all reports temporary) illness is beyond absurd.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 12 2010 08:24 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="MFS62"]BTW- who is this guy L. Hernandez who has played some games at short for the Mets this spring? And he's done it in games in which A. Hernndez has played, so I'm pretty sure it wasn't a misprint.

It's all part of a hideous Jeff Wilpon conspiracy to make Schaefer tallying more difficult.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 12 2010 08:29 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Luis Hernandez. Only 25 but already with his 4th organization. Said to be good with the leather but not much of a hitter in previous coffee breaks with the Royals and O's. I saw him make an error in that game against the Astros the other day. [url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hernalu01.shtml

Ashie62 Mar 12 2010 09:09 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Frayed Knot"][quote="Ashie62"]If you were the Mets GM, how do you, or would you, plan for the next "generation" core. Omar brought in Pedro, Delgado ,had Reyes & Wright and threw up a flag that he was building a team to win now. That was a few years ago..The Mets haven't won anything other than a few playoff games. The Mets are perceived as bumblers and the links on this board from sportswriters would lead you to believe the Mets have done little right since inception and don't know how to tie their shoes ... Make David Wright a Met for life and beyond that all jobs are open competition, sans Santana

The point is that making room for Tejeda - being nowhere near the prospect that Reyes was at the same age much less what Reyes has become since reaching the majors - by moving out Jose based on nothing more than short trial forced this (by all reports temporary) illness is beyond absurd. The issue is beyond one temporary illness..Keep in mind this temporary illness could last til the all-star break. Moving Reyes at seasons end, would just be part of an overall rebuild of a win now team that failed to achieve 4 times. The starting pitching is mediocre 2-5...The Centerfielder is nearing the end of his contract, as is the injured SS. Tejada may not be the ultimate answer to SS be we will likely got some sample to gauge. What I have trouble accepting is if the Mets start say 12-19, hearing the booth and Manuel & Minaya with the "we just have to hang in til our injured players return" spiel. Time to reach higher

Edgy DC Mar 12 2010 09:17 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

You're having them move him after the season? I thought he was being cashed in after a few weeks ("as long as it doesn't involve a safe word").

Ashie62 Mar 12 2010 09:49 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

either or....

Edgy DC Mar 12 2010 09:54 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

Well, it's a very different position, so I'm not sure what we're talking about.

Ashie62 Mar 12 2010 10:40 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

I would like to see Reyes play enough MLB baseball to increase the value of the return.

MFS62 Mar 12 2010 08:39 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

This morning on WFAN, Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts talked to Dr. Christine Resta, a thyroid specialist, about the situation with Jose Reyes. To listen to the full interview, go to WFAN.com. In short, Dr. Resta said, because his thyroid levels are fast, it could make his heart rate increase, even when he is sitting still, “So, if you exert yourself, you can put too much strain on the heart.” In such cases, she tells her patients to cut back on exerting themselves, “at least until your levels get better.” In her opinion, based on what she has read and heard, “It sounds like he has thyroiditis, which does get better by itself,” but, “the beginning part, could be as short as a few weeks, but it could be longer and take two months.” Dr. Resta says medication will not help thyroiditis, ‘because it’s like getting a virus in your thyroid,’ you can only wait for the levels to get better. In men, thyroiditis is typically caused by a virus, which is common, or an auto-immune condition, though diet should not be an issue, though it can be. In her opinion, she has never heard of HGH causing thyroiditis. In the end, she said, “If his thyroid is very fast and he really over exerts himself, he could develop palpitations, irregular heartbeat, older people can have heart-attacks, because it really is a strain on the heart, even for younger, healthy people,” like Reyes. Dr. Resta said, in most people, it takes three to four weeks before they see better blood levels. Later

Ashie62 Mar 12 2010 10:00 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

The Mets should hire Dr. Resta as Director of Medicine

Frayed Knot Mar 13 2010 09:21 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

This morning on WFAN, Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts talked to Dr. Christine Resta, a thyroid specialist, about the situation with Jose Reyes. But did Benigno understand any of her answers? -- I'm guessing not.

MFS62 Mar 13 2010 10:38 AM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Frayed Knot":3p5dzw5c] But did Benigno understand any of her answers? -- I'm guessing not.[/quote:3p5dzw5c] LOL! He asked a lot of questions, so maybe he was trying to understand. Later

Frayed Knot Mar 13 2010 01:52 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

The main reason Benigno never liked Rick Peterson is that he was always so confused by the fact that RP never gave the standard jock answers in interviews. Joe's reaction was along the lines of; 'I can't understand it therefore it must be bullshit'

MFS62 Mar 13 2010 02:03 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="Frayed Knot"]The main reason Benigno never liked Rick Peterson is that he was always so confused by the fact that RP never gave the standard jock answers in interviews. Joe's reaction was along the lines of; 'I can't understand it therefore it must be bullshit'

Even though he is a jock, Derek Jeter would have understood. Later

dgwphotography Mar 13 2010 02:17 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="MFS62"][quote="Frayed Knot"]The main reason Benigno never liked Rick Peterson is that he was always so confused by the fact that RP never gave the standard jock answers in interviews. Joe's reaction was along the lines of; 'I can't understand it therefore it must be bullshit'

Even though he is a jock, Derek Jeter would have understood. Later The doctor would have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize in Medicine due to Jeter's intangibles...

MFS62 Mar 13 2010 02:42 PM Re: The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[quote="dgwphotography"][quote="MFS62"][quote="Frayed Knot"]The main reason Benigno never liked Rick Peterson is that he was always so confused by the fact that RP never gave the standard jock answers in interviews. Joe's reaction was along the lines of; 'I can't understand it therefore it must be bullshit'

Even though he is a jock, Derek Jeter would have understood. Later The doctor would have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize in Medicine due to Jeter's intangibles... Only qualified? With Jeter, its all about winning. Later