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Frayed Knot Feb 23 2010 12:45 PM

#56 - Jenrry Mejia -- ETA 2011 #62 - Ike Davis -- ETA mid-2010 #77 - Fernando Martinez -- mid-2010 #88 - Wilmer Flores -- ETA mid-2012 1 - Jason Heyward - OF, Braves 2 - Steven Strasburg - RHP, Nationals 3 - Mike Stanton - OF, Marlins 4 - Jesus Montero - C, Yankees 5 - Brian Matusz - LHP, Orioles 6 - Desmond Jennings, OF, Rays 7 - Buster Posey - C, Giants 8 - Pedro Alvarez - 3B, Pirates 9 - Neftali Feliz - RHP, Rangers 10 - Carlos Santana - Guitar, Indians (OK, that last guy is a catcher, just wanted to see if you were paying attention) Full list: Nos 1-20 Nos 21-40 Nos 41-60 Nos 61-80 Nos 81-100

Benjamin Grimm Feb 23 2010 12:55 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

That mid-2010 for Ike is interesting. I can't help but read that as, at least partially, an expectation that Daniel Murphy isn't going to be all that.

Frayed Knot Feb 23 2010 01:01 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

Keep in mind that those dates are merely BA's estimate of when each player will be ready to advance to the ML level. It's not like they're taking the plans of the individual teams into account when making those projections. IOW, the Mets could have Pujols at 1B and it wouldn't change their ETA for Davis unless they thought he'd need a lot more time in order to learn a completely new position.

metirish Feb 23 2010 01:08 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

Pedro Alvarez - 3B, Pirates - ETA Mid 2010.... Looking forward to this kid , a lot riding on him.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 23 2010 01:21 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

It's a little scary that the top 3 prospects are all division guys who could start killing us this year. It's not likely that all of them will suck, hopefully 2 of 3 or something

metirish Feb 23 2010 01:22 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

Jason Heyward is the Braves second big OF prospect in the last few seasons , what's the other guys name?

Ashie62 Feb 23 2010 01:54 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

I like Ike in 2010 Fmart in CF 2010 Flores- his best attribute was not speed If the Mets can hit the daily double with Ike & Fmart Omar's job gets a whole lot easier.

Frayed Knot Feb 23 2010 02:22 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

[quote="metirish"]Jason Heyward is the Braves second big OF prospect in the last few seasons , what's the other guys name?

Jordan Schafer.
He's a speedier, less-powerful type of player who was pretty much handed the starting CF job by the Braves a year ago but struggled badly (63 Ks in 167 ABs) and later got nabbed for PEDs

Not that he's completely out of the picture at this point, but the star definitely diminished and the visions they had of him and Francoeur running around the OF for years to come didn't quite work out.

t's a little scary that the top 3 prospects are all division guys who could start killing us this year.

Heyward is probably closest to ready of those three. Stanton is expected to be the bigger power threat but is a less athletic, more of a hit-or-miss type who probably needs a little more time before being MLB-ready. I suspect we'll either see Heyward by opening day or soon thereafter - especially since the Braves tend to promote aggressively.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 23 2010 03:05 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]It's a little scary that the top 3 prospects are all division guys who could start killing us this year. It's not likely that all of them will suck, hopefully 2 of 3 or something

I have absolutely nothing solid to go on, but I have a weird feeling that Strasburg goes Prior on us-- 1-2 breakthrough years, then mounds of injuries.

Stanton seems like he'll be a tremendous pain-- especially if the Marlins hold on to HanRam, Josh Johnson, and Nolasco-- as does Heyward.

Also, Pat Andriola defends Ferny's honor. I mean, a 47-spot drop?

Frayed Knot Feb 23 2010 04:34 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

As John Sickels said about Fernando: 'if a college sophomore was drafted and right off the bat put up his kind of numbers in AAA we'd all be drooling over him'. But since he was signed to a high bonus at age 16 it already seems like he's been around forever. Tack on the NYC factor generating more talk about him than even the usual prospect makes some file him in bust territory already. The point about the injuries is key too, yeah there have been a lot of them which have cut down on his ABs each season - but it's not like they've been related and point to a potentially chronic problem.

Frayed Knot Feb 23 2010 05:12 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

btw, here's Kevin Goldstein's (Baseball Prospectus) take on Atlanta's Heyward and Florida's Stanton: Jason Heyward - OF DOB: 8/9/89 Height/Weight: 6-4/220 Bats/Throws: L/L Drafted/Signed: 1st round, 2007, Henry County HS (GA) 2009 Stats: .296/.369/.519 at High-A (49 G); .352/.446/.611 at Double-A (47 G); .364 at Triple-A (3 G) Year in Review: Atlanta’s top prospect flirted with .400 at Double-A as a teenager while establishing himself as the top position prospect in the game. The Good: Heyward has the potential to be a "face of the franchise" talent. He's arguably the best pure hitter in the minors, combined with outstanding plate discipline and pitch recognition. He has the ability to contend for batting and on-base titles, all in a massive athletic package that's loaded with tools. His raw power is plus, his speed is average to a tick above, and he's a very good outfielder who can even play center in a pinch. His arm is a true plus-plus weapon. The Bad: When asked what aspects of Heyward's game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing." The only real concern about Heyward is his health, as Heyward has played just 226 games over the past two years due to a variety of minor maladies. Perfect World Projection: He’s a game-changing superstar. Path to the Big Leagues: The Braves have a slot waiting for him in their outfield. Timetable: Heyward spent significantly more time in big-league camp last year just because manager Bobby Cox liked watching him play so much. He'll be gunning for a big-league job this spring, with a 50/50 chance of breaking camp with the Braves and a nearly guaranteed major-league role by the All-Star break. Mike Stanton - RF DOB: 11/8/89 Height/Weight: 6-5/240 Bats/Throws: R/R Drafted/Signed: 2nd round, 2007, Notre Dame HS (CA) 2009 Stats: .294/.390/.578 at High-A (50 G); .231/.311/.455 at Double-A (79 G) Year in Review: This top-notch power prospect wasn't slowed down at all in the Florida State League, but he scuffled at times against the more advanced pitching of Double-A. The Good: Stanton's raw power is a pure 80, but it's his ability to consistently showcase it in games that makes him so special. His power goes to all fields, and he's one of those rare players who doesn't have to make full contact to drive it out of the park. He's much more than just a pure slugger, though, as he's a fine athlete with good instincts in the outfield, an above-average arm, and average speed that increases to a tick above once he gets going. The Bad: While Stanton's high strikeout rate is unavoidable due to the crazy power, he does need to hone his approach. His inability, or perhaps his unwillingness to shorten his swing with two strikes—or even just when he’s behind in the count—led to some extended slumps at Double-A, and experienced pitchers with good breaking balls were able to feast on him at times. Due to his massive size, there are some concerns as to how long he'll be able to maintain his speed. Perfect World Projection: Stanton will be a massive slugging right fielder, and he’s arguably the one prospect in baseball most likely to hit 50 home runs in a season. Path to the Big Leagues: Cody Ross is a nice little player and all, but he's hardly a roadblock. Timetable: Stanton will try get his batting average back up to snuff with a return to Double-A in 2010, but he could be in the big leagues by September if he continues to perform.

Edgy DC Feb 27 2010 11:55 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Also, Pat Andriola defends Ferny's honor. I mean, a 47-spot drop?

That's great. I can only hope that Operation National Joke has people who should know better underestimating Met prospects across the board.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2010 08:41 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

Top fifty Met prospects according to Mets Inside Pitch: Rank Name DOB Ht Wt Pos Proj. Pos B T Signed 2009 Club ETA 1 Fernando Martinez 10/10/1988 6'1" 200 CF CF-RF L R 2005 (FA) Buf/NYM 2010 2 Jenrry Mejia 10/11/1989 6'0" 170 SP RP-SP R R 2007 (FA) StL/Bin 2011 3 Brad Holt 10/13/1986 6'4" 200 SP SP-RP R R 2008 (Sup) StL/Bin 2010 4 Ike Davis 3/22/1987 6'5" 200 1B 1B L L 2008 (1st) StL/Bin 2011 5 Wilmer Flores 8/6/1991 6'3" 175 SS LF-1B R R 2007 (FA) Sav 2013 6 Jon Niese 10/27/1986 6'4" 215 SP SP L L 2005 (7th) Buf/NYM 2010 7 Ruben Tejada 9/1/1989 5'11" 165 SS 2B-SS R R 2006 (FA) Bin 2011 8 Josh Thole 10/28/1986 6'1" 205 C C L R 2005 (13th) Bin/NYM 2010 9 Kirk Nieuwenhuis 8/7/1987 6'3" 210 CF LF-RF-CF L R 2008 (3rd) StL/Bin 2011 10 Reese Havens 10/20/1986 6'1" 195 SS 2B-3B L R 2008 (1st) StL 2011 Rank Name DOB Ht Wt Pos Proj. Pos B T Signed 2009 Club ETA 11 Jeurys Familia 10/10/1989 6'3" 185 SP SP-RP R R 2007(FA) Sav 2013 12 Tobi Stoner 12/3/1984 6'2" 215 SP SP-RP R R 2006 (16th) Buf/NYM 2010 13 Dillon Gee 4/28/1986 6'1" 200 SP SP R R 2007 (21st) Buf 2010 14 Brant Rustich 1/23/1985 6'6" 230 SP RP-SP R R 2007 (2nd) StL 2011 15 Zach Lutz 6/3/1986 6'1" 220 3B 3B-1B R R 2007 (5th) Stl/Bin 2011 16 Kyle Allen 2/12/1990 6'3" 195 SP SP R R 2008 (24th) Sav 2012 17 Eric Niesen 9/4/1985 6'0" 192 SP RP-SP L L 2007 (3rd) Stl/Bin 2011 18 Robert Carson 1/23/1989 6'3" 220 SP RP-SP L L 2007 (14th) Sav 2012 19 Lucas Duda 2/3/1986 6'5" 240 OF LF-1B-RF R R 2007 (7th) Kin 2011 20 Scott Shaw 8/3/1986 6'5" 230 SP SP-RP R R 2008 (13th) StL 2011 Rank Name DOB Ht Wt Pos Proj. Pos B T Signed 2009 Club ETA 21 Stephen Matz 5/29/1991 6'2" 192 SP SP-RP R L 2010 (2nd) High Sch. 2014 22 Cesar Puello 4/1/1991 6'2" 195 RF RF R R 2010 (7th) Kin 2013 23 Matt Bouchard 12/12/1986 6'0" 185 SS SS-2B R R 2007 (11th) StL 2011 24 Scot Moviel 5/7/1988 6'11" 235 SP RP-SP R R 2007 (2nd) Bro/StL/Bin 2012 25 Nick Carr 4/19/1987 6'1" 195 RP RP-SP R R 2005 (41st) StL 2011 26 Shawn Bowman 12/9/1984 6'2" 215 3B 3B-1B R R 2002 (12th) Bin 2010 27 Robbie Shields 1212/1987 6'1" 195 SS IF-OF R R 2009 (3rd) Bro 2013 28 Aderlin Rodriguez 11/18/1991 6'3" 210 3B 3B-1B R R 2008 (FA) GCM 2014 29 Michael Antonioni 8/6/1985 6'2" 200 SP RP R L 2007 (18th) Bin-Buf 2011 30 Francisco Peña 10/12/1989 6'2" 230 C C R R 2006 (FA) StL 2012 Rank Name DOB Ht Wt Pos Proj. Pos B T Signed 2009 Club ETA 31 Jefry Marte 6/21/1991 6'1" 187 3B 3B-RF R R 2007 (FA) Sav 2013 32 Sean Ratliff 2/24/1987 6'3" 185 CF LF-CF-RF L L 2008 (4th) Sav-StL 2012 33 Darrell Ceciliani 6/22/1990 6'1" 185 CF CF-LF L L 2009 (4th) Kin 2013 34 Ryan Coultas 4/24/1982 6'3" 180 SP RP-SP R R 2004 (6th) Bin 2011 35 Eric Beaulac 11/13/1986 6'5" 200 SP RP-SP R R 2008 (9th) Sav 2012 36 Armando Rodriguez 1/28/1988 6'2" 195 SP SP R R 2006 (FA) Kin-Sav 2013 37 Carlos Guzman 5/24/1986 6'3" 195 RF RF-LF S S 2006 (FA) StL-Bin 2012 38 Josh Stinson 3/14/1988 6'4" 210 RP RP R R 2006 (37th) Sav-StL 2012 39 Richard Lucas 11/2/1988 6'1" 205 3B 3B-LF-1B-RF R R 2007 (4th) Kin-GCM-Bro 2013 40 Rafael Fernandez 8/3/1988 6'1" 175 CF-RF-LF CF-LF L L 2006 (FA) Sav 2013 Rank Name DOB Ht Wt Pos Proj. Pos B T Signed 2009 Club ETA 41 Nick Santomauro 6/13/1988 6'3" 205 LF-RF LF L L 2009 (10th) Bro 2013 42 Brandon Moore 1/24/1986 6'3" 190 SP SP-RP R R 2008 (14th) Bro 2012 43 Eduardo Aldama 12/23/1989 6'1" 175 SP RP-SP R R 2006 (FA) Kin-Sav 2013 44 Jordany Valdespin 12/23/1987 6'0" 174 2B-SS 2B L R 2007 (FA) DSLM-GCM-Bro-Sav 2012 45 Alonzo Harris 1/16/1989 5'11" 165 2B 2B-LF R R 2007 (39th) Kin-Sav 2013 46 Chase Greene 4/22/1990 5'11" 180 CF CF-LF-RF R R 2009 (16th) GCM 2013 47 Dylan Owen 7/12/1986 5'11" 185 SP SP-RP R R 2007 (20th) StL-Bin 2011 48 Chris Schwinden 9/22/1986 6'3" 215 SP SP R R 2008 (22nd) Sav-StL 2012 49 Roy Merritt 9/22/1985 6'0" 175 RP RP L L 2007 (29th) Bin 2011 50 James Fuller 6/1/1987 5'10" 180 SP RP L L 2008 (21st) Bro 2012

MFS62 Mar 08 2010 09:51 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

The guy at Inside Pitch seems to think that Ratliff has as much potential as any of the other outfield prospects from a standpoint of all-around tools. But he has to show it this year. And he really likes Puello's arm. Later

Edgy DC Mar 09 2010 05:36 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

What's sort of remarkable --- in that it isn't remarked on at all --- is that there's no place in the top 50 for Eddie Kunz. It's like the rush to declare Fernando Martinez a flop before his first legal beer has obscured this true flop of a firstish-round pick (and, at number 42, he was about as low a first-rounder as can be). I mean, the jury is still out, but if there's no thought for him having at least as promising a future as Roy Merritt, well, that's a tough sack of flour to lug around.

Frayed Knot Mar 09 2010 07:08 PM Re: Baseball America - Top 100

Yeah, Kunz is likely to have a career as a serviceable middle reliever even if the hoped-for closer role never works out. Meanwhile, lots of guys on this (or any) top 50 list will never see the big leagues. There's no Juan Urbina either. You can argue that he's not included because he's at the other end of the spectrum: young, pure potential with no pro experience at this point and so far away from the majors. Sure, but so is Stephen Matz.