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Adam Rubin

metirish Mar 22 2010 06:50 PM

I'm sure it's been mentioned but Rubin is leaving the Daily News and rumor is that he will turn up at something called ESPNnewyork.com covering the Mets. I remember when he took over the beat from IIRC T.J. Quinn , he was invited here for a Q&A regarding his book and was a good sport in taking out questions. I'd say all in all he was a good beat reporter but the shenanigans that occurred last season will leave a stain. I have noticed that Anthony McCarron was writing from PSL under Rubin;s name several times the last few weeks, maybe he will be the new beat guy?

SteveJRogers Mar 22 2010 07:30 PM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="metirish":2tnt705h] I'd say all in all he was a good beat reporter but the shenanigans that occurred last season will leave a stain. [/quote:2tnt705h] How did any of that reflect badly on Rubin?

Ashie62 Mar 22 2010 09:43 PM Re: Adam Rubin

Sounds like a good subject for a podcast Steve

metirish Mar 23 2010 08:33 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="SteveJRogers":2ks25skr][quote="metirish":2ks25skr] I'd say all in all he was a good beat reporter but the shenanigans that occurred last season will leave a stain. [/quote:2ks25skr] How did any of that reflect badly on Rubin?[/quote:2ks25skr] I didn't say that it did, it was a mess for all involved and unfortunately for Rubin he was the news for a week or more.

Ceetar Mar 23 2010 08:37 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="SteveJRogers":54471956][quote="metirish":54471956] I'd say all in all he was a good beat reporter but the shenanigans that occurred last season will leave a stain. [/quote:54471956] How did any of that reflect badly on Rubin?[/quote:54471956] Any implication that you're talking about jobs while currently employed is not usually taken well. Rubin leaving the Daily News for bigger things is just another hint that maybe he was indeed putting out feelers. I certainly don't think Omar outright lied. And saying I was doing it for a story is a catch-all excuse for writers.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2010 08:38 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="metirish":2s93ofrj]... Rubin is leaving the Daily News and rumor is that he will turn up at something called ESPNnewyork.com covering the Mets.[/quote:2s93ofrj] It's between that ESPN gig and the Mets VP of Player Development postition.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2010 08:50 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Rubin never said he was doing it for a story; he was doing what anyone in print publishing should have been doing last year -- looking out for himself. In retrospect he probably should have made this request to a team he wasn't covering just in case the general manager is an idiot capable of misinterpreting the request, a vindictive guy who'd use it against you, or both.

Ceetar Mar 23 2010 09:01 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Did he word it like that? I thought he emphasized that it was a theoretical exercise, something he was 'curious' about. He did counter with "If Omar came to me about how to get into journalism, I would've talked to him about it." Like it was no big deal. Of course, the Daily News couldn't afford to lose him anyway. So they weren't going to do anything about him looking for other jobs, but most employers tend to frown upon that.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2010 09:07 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="Ceetar":1vtomvxn]Did he word it like that? I thought he emphasized that it was a theoretical exercise, something he was 'curious' about. He did counter with "If Omar came to me about how to get into journalism, I would've talked to him about it." Like it was no big deal. Of course, the Daily News couldn't afford to lose him anyway. So they weren't going to do anything about him looking for other jobs, but most employers tend to frown upon that.[/quote:1vtomvxn] But the Mets aren't Rubin's employer. Why would it be Omar's business to get all bothered about Rubin looking for another job? And if it was the Mets that Rubin was feeling about another job, well then how's a guy supposed to look for another job without feeling or asking? Are you saying that Rubin should've quit the Daily News before looking for another job?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2010 09:11 AM Re: Adam Rubin

That Omar purposefully used it against him in a press event illustrates the ethical murky waters into which Rubin waded, even innocently.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2010 09:15 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Omar didn't get all bothered. The team --- correctly --- when investigating the facts around a whole lot of hyperbole flying around about Tony Bernezard, looked into whether the reporter had a conflict of interest, and whether that may have been a part of the issues. They found out there was nothing there. Then Omar --- foolishly --- when asked about the team's investigations, mentioned this was one of the things they looked into. He made clear that there wasn't anything there*, but it was too late. He immediately began backpedaling --- and is backpedaling still. *He may well have wished there was. He probably was bitter over having just axed a colleague, but he knew he was wrong the moment he opened his mout'.

Ceetar Mar 23 2010 09:17 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3mntqdjy]That Omar purposefully used it against him in a press event illustrates the ethical murky waters into which Rubin waded, even innocently.[/quote:3mntqdjy] I don't have a problem with what Rubin did, but it's nto exactly 'clean' either. And this is even different than looking for a job on the side, because theoretically Rubin was getting paid while asking Omar about jobs. Now, Omar certainly wasn't clean in this either, but to me it reflects a stubbornness and vengeful nature of Minaya to strike back at someone that forces his hand or exposes a problem with his employees or makes him fire a friend or however you want to interpret that situation. I don't really mind that "I'm not going to let you screw me and get away with it attitude". I wonder how it applies to some of his negotiations with other teams.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2010 09:25 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="Edgy DC"]Omar didn't get all bothered. The team --- correctly --- when investigating the facts around a whole lot of hyperbole flying around about Tony Bernezard, looked into whether the reporter had a conflict of interest, and whether that may have been a part of the issues. They found out there was nothing there. Then Omar --- foolishly --- when asked about the team's investigations, mentioned this was one of the things they looked into. He made clear that there wasn't anything there*, but it was too late. He immediately began backpedaling --- and is backpedaling still. *He may well have wished there was. He probably was bitter over having just axed a colleague, but he knew he was wrong the moment he opened his mout'.

I'm going to stick with my "Omar got bothered" line, which anyways, is consistent with the rest of your post.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2010 09:27 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Not really. Being upset about having to axe a colleague is not the same as being "all bothered" about Rubin having made inquiries in the first place. By all accounts, the Mets were more or less helpful in giving him references.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2010 09:33 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="Edgy DC":3fvef01c]Not really. Being upset about having to axe a colleague is not the same as being "all bothered" about Rubin having made inquiries in the first place. By all accounts, the Mets were more or less helpful in giving him references.[/quote:3fvef01c] But I never addressed Rubin's feelings over firing Bernazard. And neither did the post I was specifically addressing.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2010 09:42 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Yeah, but that's what I was addressing, that you expressed consistency with that wasn't actully there. Please don't jerk me around. I've got to get on the road and, anyway, I've got Steve J. Rogers for that.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2010 09:48 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="Edgy DC":1si87eth]Yeah, but that's what I was addressing, that you expressed consistency with that wasn't actully there. Please don't jerk me around. I've got to get on the road and, anyway, I've got Steve J. Rogers for that.[/quote:1si87eth] But you criticized my response post on the basis of something no one expressly addressed in the exchange. So please don't jerk me around. I've got Edgy for that.

SteveJRogers Mar 23 2010 09:50 AM Re: Adam Rubin

I've got to get on the road and, anyway, I've got Steve J. Rogers for that. Awww, now I feel bad for using the crappy weather for not trudging over to Two Boots tonight. Okay, I'll see what I can do in order to make it and annoy you tonight! =;)

PatchyFogg Mar 23 2010 10:01 AM Re: Adam Rubin

I can neither confirm nor deny that Adam is going anywhere. But, I can tell you that he'll be on my 100% commercial-free, no one makes a dime from it, Sports Talk radio show talking ALL METS from [u:263xn483]9PM to 11PM TONIGHT on Long Island's 90.3FM[/u:263xn483]. We will also be [u:263xn483]LIVE ON THE INTERNET (video and audio) at http://www.justin.tv/sportstalk[/u:263xn483] Please listen in, please tell some Mets fan friends and please call in with questions. As always, thanks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 24 2010 10:25 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Looking at the replay now. Rubin sez he's "unemployed" and in NY in March for the first time in seven years; this morning I noticed the "Surfing the Mets" blog is now identified as being written "by Daily News staff" but I guess the interesting thing will be who replaces Rubin on a permanent basis, especially since I get the Snooze every day. The Post also got a new Mets beat man, Mike "The Puma" Puma; and Snoozeday no longer matters since I can't read it online and they don't get to the city anymore. Great job, Dolans!

Gwreck Mar 24 2010 11:01 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1og43wmc] Snoozeday no longer matters since I can't read it online and they don't get to the city anymore. Great job, Dolans![/quote:1og43wmc] No kidding. Shame, too because with Rubin gone, David Lennon is probably the best of the Mets beat writers.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2010 11:13 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":12wpxzb6]The Post also got a new Mets beat man, Mike "The Puma" Puma...[/quote:12wpxzb6] I bet there's a great story about how he got that nickname.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 24 2010 11:23 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="Gwreck":jd4c19xl][quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":jd4c19xl] Snoozeday no longer matters since I can't read it online and they don't get to the city anymore. Great job, Dolans![/quote:jd4c19xl] No kidding. Shame, too because with Rubin gone, David Lennon is probably the best of the Mets beat writers.[/quote:jd4c19xl] Perhaps the Snooze hires Lennon away. Or Steve J. Rogers maybe.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2010 11:36 AM Re: Adam Rubin

It would be a very odd career move if Lennon opted to take a job working for SteveJRogers.

Edgy DC Mar 24 2010 08:33 PM Re: Adam Rubin

I was thinking just today, "Is David Lennon really the best beat guy they have left?" Because I think that merely because he's not an attention-seeking gasbag, not because of anything he actually is. Does Noble count as a beat writer any longer? Does Gregory Corso?

Gwreck Mar 24 2010 08:43 PM Re: Adam Rubin

Noble is indeed still a beat writer. I prefer Lennon over Noble generally in terms of depth of analysis, and -- before the Newsday online stupidity -- breadth of interesting info provided to fans (ie. above and beyond the usual game stories).

G-Fafif Mar 24 2010 09:14 PM Re: Adam Rubin

Frank Deford kicks major ass with his piece on sportswriting in this week's SI here, of note in this thread for the following aside: Institutionally there was real camaraderie among sportswriters, because more than other journalists we traveled together and then wrote en masse, in the press box. I was hardly surprised that last July, when Mets general manager Omar Minaya attacked New York Daily News beat writer Adam Rubin, all Rubin's competitors came passionately to his defense. Sportswriters are rivals, but close ones, like chefs who eat in each other's restaurants. Anyway, wonderful retrospective on The Way It Was, without sappiness or denying that these are the good old days, too. On the subject of beat writers, I've enjoyed David Waldstein's work this spring in the Times. Ken Belson, however, is a bit sloppy and a little too cute

PatchyFogg Mar 25 2010 08:54 AM Re: Adam Rubin

I've placed the audio of the interview (in MP3 format) at http://sportstalk903.libsyn.com You can also watch the whole video of this show at http://www.justin.tv/sportstalk (It's divided into 9 segments of 15 minutes each. Segment 6 is where he apologizes for not having the chance to say goodbye via the Blog.) Some Highlights: In this interview, Adam talks about how this Mets team is the closest team he has covered in his 8 years on the beat, his very nice Spring Training dinner with Omar Minaya, how things are looking up for the farm system and that his new contract is actually longer than Omar's. In a serious moment, Adam also takes the time to thank the Daily News for all the great years that he had there, and because he was not allowed to say goodbye on his blog, gets the chance to say goodbye via our show. But, like I said, Adam's not going anywhere. We'll get to read his Mets coverage for many years to come. You know where, I just can't say it.

bmfc1 Mar 25 2010 09:06 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Odd that they wouldn't let him say goodbye but they still use his picture on the Daily News twitter feed for Mets news.

Valadius Mar 31 2010 06:58 AM Re: Adam Rubin

The Snooze has named Andy Martino as Rubin's successor as Mets beat writer. Andy Martino returns to the Daily News after one year as Phillies beat writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer. He began his journalism career as an intern here, covering nearly every sport and spending significant time reporting on the 2008 Mets. Before that, he spent three years teaching high school English in Brooklyn. A Rochester native, he is a graduate of Purchase College, SUNY and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

Ceetar Mar 31 2010 07:00 AM Re: Adam Rubin

$10 says he's a Yankees fan at heart.

bmfc1 Mar 31 2010 07:01 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Rubin is back and twittering: AdamRubinESPN

metirish Mar 31 2010 07:02 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Valadius Mar 31 2010 07:03 AM Re: Adam Rubin

From Surfing the Mets late last night: [quote="Andy Martino":f1u5sdz2]Before diving into Mets news (I landed in Port St. Lucie tonight), I wanted to take a brief moment to introduce myself. I say brief because this blog is not about me; it's about the Mets and it's about you. My job is to obsessively gather and deliver information about the team, and I can't wait to get going. As you can see in my bio, I started at the Daily News, and I'm thrilled to be back. I fully understand the responsibility of tirelessly updating you on Mets news. Please feel free to communicate with me via email and blog comments, and offer any and all suggestions. I don't have to tell you that, win or lose, the Mets are an eternally fascinating team—and that is why I'm thrilled to cover them. Now let's have some fun.[/quote:f1u5sdz2]

metirish Mar 31 2010 07:05 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Article that went with the pic I posted You may know Andy Martino as the Columbia Graduate who became a Phillies beatwriter for the Inqy via the New York Daily News (I read his profile!), but there is a slim chance that you really know Andy Martino. He doesn’t do nearly as many radio and TV appearances as say, a Todd Zolecki, David Murphy, or Scott Lauber, plus he’s only been covering the team for about six months now. So chances are, you just see him as that guy who took over Zolecki’s beat. Well that all changed last night after he appeared on CSN Philly’s pre-game show out in San Fran. Andy showed up for his taping looking less like an MLB beat writer and more like a cross between an extra on the set of Swingers and that cat from Clueless who would rather watch Tony Curtis movies than bang Alicia Silverstone. http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/and ... r-hipster/

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 31 2010 07:21 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Welcome back to the apple, Andy. You can keep the hat but lose the track suit.

duan Mar 31 2010 07:27 AM Re: Adam Rubin

that's a much to be admired hat. I like him already.

seawolf17 Mar 31 2010 07:38 AM Re: Adam Rubin

There are few things I would rather do than bang Alicia Silverstone.

metirish Mar 31 2010 07:39 AM Re: Adam Rubin

He'd fit right in at home Duan with that tracksuit . I remember listening to Newstalk online a few years ago and the correspondent was out and about in Cork City talking to people and a Japanese tourist remarked to him that Irish people must be very fit , " why is that" radio guy asked, " because everyone wears tracksuits here". Andy rig-out would look fine down Mulberry Street.

HahnSolo Mar 31 2010 07:51 AM Re: Adam Rubin

Can we find a space for that photo in the douchewear thread?

metirish Mar 31 2010 07:52 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="HahnSolo":2xps4wux]Can we find a space for that photo in the douchewear thread?[/quote:2xps4wux] It's there

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 31 2010 09:53 AM Re: Adam Rubin

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Welcome back to the apple, Andy. You can keep the hat but lose the track suit.

He can dress like a disco-fied version of Grantland Rice if he writes all right.

OE: And hey-- he's an ex-schoolteacher!