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Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good
| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 07:30 AM |
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Best to least, name your top ten Bll Murray film roles: Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009) (voice) .... Badger Get Low (2009) .... Frank Quinn The Limits of Control (2009) .... American City of Ember (2008) .... Mayor Cole Get Smart (2008) .... Agent 13 The Darjeeling Limited (2007) .... The Businessman Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties (2006) (voice) .... Garfield The Lost City (2005) .... The Writer Broken Flowers (2005) .... Don Johnston The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (2004) .... Steve Zissou Garfield (2004) (voice) .... Garfield Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) .... Himself Lost in Translation (2003) .... Bob Harris Speaking of Sex (2001) .... Ezri Stovall The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) .... Raleigh St. Clair Osmosis Jones (2001) .... Frank Detorre Charlie's Angels (2000) .... Bosley Hamlet (2000) .... Polonius Scout's Honor (1999) .... Jack Vardell Cradle Will Rock (1999) .... Tommy Crickshaw Rushmore (1998) .... Herman Blume With Friends Like These... (1998) .... Maurice Melnick Wild Things (1998) .... Ken Bowden The Man Who Knew Too Little (1997) .... Wallace 'Wally' Ritchie Larger Than Life (1996) .... Jack Corcoran Kingpin (1996) .... Ernie McCracken Ed Wood (1994) .... Bunny Breckinridge Mad Dog and Glory (1993) .... Frank Milo Groundhog Day (1993) .... Phil What About Bob? (1991) .... Bob 'Bobby' Wiley Quick Change (1990) .... Grimm Ghostbusters II (1989) .... Dr. Peter Venkman Scrooged (1988) .... Frank Cross Little Shop of Horrors (1986) .... Arthur Denton The Razor's Edge (1984) .... Larry Darrell Nothing Lasts Forever (1984) .... Ted Breughel Ghost Busters (1984) .... Dr. Peter Venkman Tootsie (1982) .... Jeff Slater Stripes (1981) .... John Loose Shoes (1980) .... Lefty Schwartz Caddyshack (1980) .... Carl Spackler Le chaînon manquant (1980) (voice: English version) .... Dragon Where the Buffalo Roam (1980) .... Hunter S. Thompson Mr. Mike's Mondo Video (1979) .... Man on the street Meatballs (1979) .... Tripper Next Stop, Greenwich Village (1976) (uncredited) .... Nick Kessel Tarzoon, la honte de la jungle (1975) (voice: English version) I took out TV appearances, but left in supporting roles and voice roles, so don't get smart and tell me The Rutles. I left 46 roles from which to choose 10.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2010 07:35 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Beat me to it. To clarify: we're going by his performance, without thought-- or with as little thought given as possible-- to the overall quality of the film?
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| TransMonk Mar 17 2010 07:37 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Groundhog Day What About Bob? Ghost Busters Caddyshack The Man Who Knew Too Little Scrooged Rushmore Stripes Lost in Translation The Royal Tenenbaums Hamlet
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 07:38 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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I think so. I've got to think at least part of what people like about Murray is his ability to subvert the very vehicle he's riding in. Transmonk is already on the board!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2010 07:44 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 17 2010 07:51 AM |
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In rough order of primacy (though you could shuffle the top 3 in any order, and I wouldn't argue): Rushmore Groundhog Day Ghostbusters Lost in Translation Scrooged Tootsie Broken Flowers Caddyshack The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou Quick Change (I've heard good things about his work in Where the Buffalo Roam, but have never gotten around to seeing it.)
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 07:46 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Big Quick Change fan here. He was vurray Murray in that. I'm going to have to chew on that a bit.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2010 07:50 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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I so very want Kingpin somewhere in here, but I can't figure out what to bump from my 10. Other near-misses: Cradle Will Rock Hamlet Mad Dog and Glory Stripes
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2010 08:03 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Yeee... I've only seen six of them! Here's how I'd rank them: Tootsie (1982) Groundhog Day (1993) Ghost Busters (1984) Ed Wood (1994) Ghostbusters II (1989) Caddyshack (1980) I don't remember much at all about Ghostbusters II, but I have to rank it above Caddyshack, which I hated.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2010 08:04 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Murray's interesting. Like, he's kinda an unnecessary scene chewer in Caddyshack but a total force of nature all the same. I think he's classic Murray in Stripes -- a smart-ass underachiever from Chicago out to subvert the establishment. Stripes Quick Change Rushmore * Ghostbusters Caddyshack Groundhog Day Fantastic Mr. Fox Kingpin * Royal Tennenbaums Life Aquatic and/or Lost in Translation (never saw Scrooged)
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| metirish Mar 17 2010 08:05 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Lost in Translation (2003) - I just love that movie.... Scrooged Rushmore Ghostbusters Groundhog Day What About Bob Stripes Tootsie The Royal Tenenbaums Caddyshack
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2010 08:06 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="metirish":16rcjmto]Lost in Translation (2003) - I just love that movie.... [/quote:16rcjmto] Really? I was bored to tears.
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| TransMonk Mar 17 2010 08:11 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3gmnya6f](never saw Scrooged)[/quote:3gmnya6f] Rent it next holiday season. It's a "classic" Murray role and it's got a pretty nice supporting cast. It's become one of my favorite Xmas-time films.
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 08:12 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[list=1][*]Quick Change[/*:m] [*]Stripes[/*:m] [*]Ghost Busters[/*:m] [*]Rushmore[/*:m] [*]Caddyshack[/*:m] [*]Lost in Translation[/*:m] [*]Groundhog Day[/*:m] [*]Broken Flowers[/*:m] [*]The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou[/*:m] [*]Meatballs[/*:m][/list:o] Of the others I've seen. Coffee and Cigarettes Tootsie Ghostbusters II The Royal Tenenbaums
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| metirish Mar 17 2010 08:15 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2yg9wi5p][quote="metirish":2yg9wi5p]Lost in Translation (2003) - I just love that movie.... [/quote:2yg9wi5p] Really? I was bored to tears.[/quote:2yg9wi5p] Maybe I'm the sentimental sort ........
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| soupcan Mar 17 2010 08:33 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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What is the impetus for this? As far as I can see he didn't die yesterday. This was hard. 'Groundhog Day' is the clear winner for me but after that they are all close. 'Tootsie' sticks out because of the memorable line when he called Dustin Hoffman a slut. 'Stripes' and 'Caddyshack' are classics. So many great lines. They're all great. He's great. I hope he's not dead. 1. Groundhog Day (1993) .... Phil 2. Tootsie (1982) .... Jeff Slater 3. Stripes (1981) .... John 4. Caddyshack (1980) .... Carl Spackler 5. Meatballs (1979) .... Tripper 6. Ghost Busters (1984) .... Dr. Peter Venkman 7. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (2004) .... Steve Zissou 8. What About Bob? (1991) .... Bob 'Bobby' Wiley 9. Quick Change (1990) .... Grimm 10.Lost in Translation (2003) .... Bob Harris
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| MFS62 Mar 17 2010 08:39 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2ood7ua1] I think he's classic Murray in Stripes -- a smart-ass underachiever from Chicago out to subvert the establishment. [/quote:2ood7ua1] And that's a fact, Jack! Close behind to me are: Ghostbusters Caddy Shack Later
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 08:43 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="soupcan":2ioio16y]What is the impetus for this? As far as I can see he didn't die yesterday.[/quote:2ioio16y] Minor disagreements on his legacy in the answer/ask thread.
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| seawolf17 Mar 17 2010 08:51 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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In order: Caddyshack (1980) .... Carl Spackler Scrooged (1988) .... Frank Cross Ghost Busters (1984) .... Dr. Peter Venkman Ghostbusters II (1989) .... Dr. Peter Venkman Those three roles overshadow everything else for me.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2010 09:05 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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1) To me, that's classic early-period Murray. You can argue that he's at his peak there in Ghostbusters, or Stripes, or Quick Change (as Edgy might argue). But to limit your consideration of Billy there is to sell him EXTREMELY short. If you-- as I do-- buy that it's tougher to make a pretty good comedy than it is to make a great drama, you could make a real argument that he's the most complete actor of our time. 2) Loved him in Lost in Translation. Didn't love the movie. (One of the big reasons I asked the question at the outset of this thread.) 3) And those of you who've left Rushmore or Broken Flowers off your lists, I hope it's 'cause you haven't seen 'em. 4) Upon further consideration, I might consider bumping QC to, say, #5 on my list. He's VERY Murray there.
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 09:07 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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This is what we've got so far: 1 Ghost Busters 2 Groundhog Day 3 Caddyshack 4 Stripes 5 Rushmore 6 Scrooged 7 Tootsie 8 Quick Change 9 Broken Flowers 10 What About Bob? The groundhog is easily outpolling the gopher and the slimer on completed ballots, but it was left completely off the last two.
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| soupcan Mar 17 2010 09:10 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Haven't seen 'Broken Flowers', I'll put it on my Netflix queue. Saw 'Rushmore' and remember liking it. I remember Schwartzman more than Murray though. I'll have to watch that again as well.
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 09:12 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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The challenge of Murray is that he has to make you wrestle: is his snorting comtempt the vox populi? Is he subverting the system on my behalf? Does he speak for me or is he just an asshole? And if he is, am I? In Quick Change, even his castmates seemed to be unsure on the hero/asshole question. Near the end of the film, he was unsure himself.
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| metsguyinmichigan Mar 17 2010 09:14 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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He's essentially the same character in a lot of his movies -- but I like the character, so it's OK. My son liked him in the zombie movie. Scrooged is wonderful -- if you like Murray. I do, so it's a fave.
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| soupcan Mar 17 2010 09:15 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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I hated 'Scrooged'.
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| A Boy Named Seo Mar 17 2010 09:37 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 17 2010 10:47 AM |
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I saw Bill Murray at the Troubadour the other night and that's what got me thinking about him. For the record, most celeb-type peeps at that bar go upstairs and not mix with the riff-raff, but Bill hung out at the bar all night, meeting peeps, hugging chicks, and waiting in line for a drink like the rest of us schlubs. Seemed alright by me. Rushmore Stripes Ghostbusters Lost in Translation Groundhog Day What About Bob Kingpin The Royal Tenenbaums Caddyshack Scrooged
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| Swan Swan H Mar 17 2010 09:51 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Ghostbusters Lost in Translation Stripes Meatballs Groundhog Day Tootsie Caddyshack Kingpin
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| Edgy DC Mar 17 2010 09:58 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Getting a lot of points for a smallish Greeky-chorusy role in Tootsie.
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| metirish Mar 17 2010 10:00 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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A big problem I have with him is the clown he plays for TV when at a charity golf tourney.....there goes Bill again using the clubs like a sword......running across the greens...never saw him to that before.
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| Ashie62 Mar 17 2010 10:15 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Caddyshack Rushmore Groundhog Day Lost in Translation Stripes The Razors Edge Murray's characters in Rushmore & Groundhog day are similarly conflicted so I'll with Caddyshack which has a nice turn Brian Doyle Murray as the caddymaster who calls in a bet on the MFY's in his "office' That scene has since been deleted
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| themetfairy Mar 17 2010 10:35 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="soupcan":3bem7hi5]I hated 'Scrooged'.[/quote:3bem7hi5] The first five minutes redeems the entire film. The Night The Reindeer Died!
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| Frayed Knot Mar 17 2010 11:01 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ...
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| soupcan Mar 17 2010 11:11 AM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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SPAZ....SPAZ....SPAZ....
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2010 12:20 PM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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[quote="Frayed Knot"]IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER ... |
| HahnSolo Mar 17 2010 02:28 PM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Can it be that I have not seen a Murray movie since 1998? Makes sense, as I had my first kid in '99 and my movie-going has been very sporadic. Wow, I haven't even [u:1x3k2sky]seen [/u:1x3k2sky]ten of these. I do think you all may be giving him short shrift for Ed Wood. But here's my eight: Caddyshack Ghostbusters Meatballs Ed Wood Stripes What About Bob? Wild Things Ghostbusters 2
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| seawolf17 Mar 17 2010 04:58 PM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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I've just been really out of the loop on movies, so whereas films like "Life Aquatic" and "Translation" are on my theoretical list of movies I want to see, I'll probably never get to them.
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| Fman99 Mar 17 2010 09:47 PM Re: Bustin' Makes Me Feel Good |
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Stripes
Groundhog Day
Caddyshack
Ghostbusters
Meatballs
Rushmore
Kingpin
Ed Wood
Scrooged
Tootsie
Note that all of my choices are at least 12 years old.
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