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Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010
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IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010
| Edgy DC Apr 06 2010 12:09 PM |
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Chin-fuzz righthander Ricky Nolasco goes for Marlins, and he has been brilliant this spring, after a pretty weak 2009. On the other hand, John Maine's been real spotty, but claiming to be throwing pain-free. Some may be dubious. Nolasco is 3-6, 5.99 in 15 games (13 starts) lifetime against the Mets. John Kevin Maine (son of Kevin John Maine) is 2-0, 3.74 in four career starts against the Marlins.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 06 2010 12:34 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Nolasco's lousy 2009 honestly wasn't even all that lousy, but he may repeat it if the team behind him keeps playing defense like they did yesterday and last season. Even though his ERA jumped a run and a half from his breakout 2008 season to 2009, he actually improved his strikeout rate while maintaining his K/BB and HR ratios. The big difference was that his ability to strand baserunners evaporated to a sort of absurd degree. He's so talented and has a good enough track record that I'd lean towards writing it off as a fluke, especially with the way he's looked this spring. All that said, the Mets have had his number pretty consistently and I hope that continues.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 06 2010 01:18 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Nolasco and not-too-shabby reliever Reynel Pinto (plus since released, future MFY Sergio Mitre) from the Cubs for one season of Juan Pierre. One of three big Cub-Marlin deals I always conflate. Hee-Seop Choi for Derrek Lee was the one the Cubs won; the Marlins won the Dontrelle Willis (+ others) for Matt Clement (+ others) deal.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 01:29 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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He's on my fantasy team!
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| metirish Apr 06 2010 01:31 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2t5u6rxr]He's on my fantasy team![/quote:2t5u6rxr] oh no he didnt
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 01:36 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 01:39 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Is that Fozzie Bear's foot?
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2010 02:12 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Can someone please post tomorrow's Mets lineup? I'd like to bitch about how David Wright was buried at the bottom of the lineup five seasons ago. Thank you.
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| Ceetar Apr 06 2010 02:22 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="batmagadanleadoff":1jy3j8u7]Can someone please post tomorrow's Mets lineup? I'd like to bitch about how David Wright was buried at the bottom of the lineup five seasons ago. Thank you.[/quote:1jy3j8u7] I'd like to make a joke about our manager's mental abilities, if that's alright.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2010 02:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Ceetar":2fqngi1m][quote="batmagadanleadoff":2fqngi1m]Can someone please post tomorrow's Mets lineup? I'd like to bitch about how David Wright was buried at the bottom of the lineup five seasons ago. Thank you.[/quote:2fqngi1m] I'd like to make a joke about our manager's mental abilities, if that's alright.[/quote:2fqngi1m] You're asking me? I have no clout here. Ask somebody else. Or better yet, go and start a Mets magic number thread. It's 162 less ((the least number of games they play against a divisional opponent/2) +1), as of today. You'll be the smash hit of the forum. Really.
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| Ceetar Apr 06 2010 03:01 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="Ceetar"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"]Can someone please post tomorrow's Mets lineup? I'd like to bitch about how David Wright was buried at the bottom of the lineup five seasons ago. Thank you. |
| Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 03:08 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Or your could tally innings by the top four starting pitchers. 6 down, 794 to go!
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| Fman99 Apr 06 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Ceetar":2o5byaxz][quote="batmagadanleadoff":2o5byaxz]Can someone please post tomorrow's Mets lineup? I'd like to bitch about how David Wright was buried at the bottom of the lineup five seasons ago. Thank you.[/quote:2o5byaxz] I'd like to make a joke about our manager's mental abilities, if that's alright.[/quote:2o5byaxz] And I'll make a cock joke!™
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| TransMonk Apr 07 2010 06:22 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Opening Day followed by an off day is bullshit. 51 hours is a long time to wait.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 06:45 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="TransMonk":2x9g8w7z]Opening Day followed by an off day is bullshit. 51 hours is a long time to wait.[/quote:2x9g8w7z] This.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 06:54 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Plus the day game followed by a night game. With Santana throwing only six innings in game one, they ought to bring him back for game two.
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| TransMonk Apr 07 2010 09:38 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I must have overlooked this split last season: John Maine was 6-1 with a 1.98 ERA at Citi last season...the lost was in his Citi debut and he won his last six.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 07 2010 11:56 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Time for more Dale Carnegie Pollyanna sunshine-up-the-arse positivity. The Mets are undefeated! Just put on your pants one leg at a time, especially you Monty Stratton, and give it the ol' college try even if you never made it past eighth grade on some third-world tropical island. Remember, we win as a team, and we lose because Manuel is a liar and an idiot.
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| metirish Apr 07 2010 12:13 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2010 12:17 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| Swan Swan H Apr 07 2010 12:18 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Damn right.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 12:19 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="TransMonk":12og23vc]I must have overlooked this split last season: John Maine was 6-1 with a 1.98 ERA at Citi last season...the lost was in his Citi debut and he won his last six.[/quote:12og23vc] Also, 5-2 lifetime in 10 career Fish fries, con 3.12 ERA, 0.99 WHIP, .181 opposing BA, y 3-to-1 K/BB.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 12:28 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="TransMonk"]I must have overlooked this split last season: John Maine was 6-1 with a 1.98 ERA at Citi last season...the lost was in his Citi debut and he won his last six. |
| G-Fafif Apr 07 2010 12:35 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Tonight will be the first time John Maine pitches at Citi Field without me in attendance. I hope each of us can persevere apart from one another.
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| Gwreck Apr 07 2010 02:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Cora SS Castillo 2B Wright 3B Jacobs 1B Bay LF Matthews, Jr. CF Francoeur RF Barajas C Maine P
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2010 02:47 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="G-Fafif":1ui04j5k]Tonight will be the first time John Maine pitches at Citi Field without me in attendance. [/quote:1ui04j5k] If we see him worriedly scanning the stands during tonight's game, we'll know why.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 03:01 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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There's a Mets game tonight.
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| TransMonk Apr 07 2010 03:07 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Fuck yeah!
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| Ceetar Apr 07 2010 04:44 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="G-Fafif":1nxcmvhf]Tonight will be the first time John Maine pitches at Citi Field without me in attendance. I hope each of us can persevere apart from one another.[/quote:1nxcmvhf] Well geeze! What type of fan are you?! Get out there! (Don't tell me, you had tickets for Friday and Manuel's rotation flip screwed it up?)
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2010 05:00 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Tonight's game is the MLB At Bat app's TV game. I'm gonna try to watch this shit on my iPhone while I'm at work.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 07 2010 05:15 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Blue hats again. Excellent.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2010 05:21 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Super-impressed w/ the MLB app. Tiny as hell, but it looks awesome. I'm rockin 5 bars on the 3G network, so imagine that helps it from being real pixelated. Maine sort of all over the damn place. Hopefully will sneak out of this w/ only 1 run and then settle it down.
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| metirish Apr 07 2010 05:26 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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WOW, Maine looks like he hasn't got much in that arm.....no fastball yet anyway.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2010 05:30 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| apmorris Apr 07 2010 05:32 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Hey guys, whats new? Jacobs cleanup?
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| OlerudOwned Apr 07 2010 05:36 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Free Chris Carter
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 06:02 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Maine's scrotum has the viscosity of silly putty as he stamps images of Marlins comics onto his balls
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 06:05 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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There's our #2 pitcher. Thanks Omar!
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| TransMonk Apr 07 2010 06:31 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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4-1 on a Hanley HR. Shitfuck.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 07 2010 06:32 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Maine ain't doing so hot.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 06:33 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="OlerudOwned":1lopah72]Maine ain't doing so hot.[/quote:1lopah72] Tough to work at 88 without a hook
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 06:37 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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First coupla runs weren't scored on anything hit hard. Let's keep some perspective with 160 to play after today.
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| metirish Apr 07 2010 06:39 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Kong76":cjgryj7n]First coupla runs weren't scored on anything hit hard. Let's keep some perspective with 160 to play after today.[/quote:cjgryj7n] While true he's had nothing all night, no life on the fastball but he's hanging around.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 06:40 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I know, I hear thanks Omar and I just roll my eyes.
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Omar did nothing to improve the starters. Maine shouldn't be the #2. He's a #4 at best right now.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 07 2010 06:46 PM |
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I should say, I think the slant with this rotation early on (as talked about in the pre-game) is it's more a L-R-L-R thing and Maine isn't really Omar's #2 ... it's too early in the season to hate.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Oh look, the Jenrrrrry ERa has begun.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 06:46 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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And they're teeing off on him.
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 06:47 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Kong76":2ua6ne50]I should say, I think the slant with this rotation early on (as talked about in the pre-game) is it's more a L-R-L-R thing and Maine isn't really Omar's #2 ... it's too early in the season to hate.[/quote:2ua6ne50] You're probably right, but the Mets 2-5 starters could be in any order. They really needed a good SP and didn't get one.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 07:06 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Yeah, whatever. This would have been a good moment for Mike Jacobs to get off the Schneid.
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 07:07 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I don't know why, but the new graphic for Kevin Burhardt's reports, "KEVIN BURKHARDT REPORTS" and then the subject, makes me laugh.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 07 2010 07:07 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Speaking of SP that they didn't get, Jason Marquis gave up 6 earned in 4+ tonight, including a shot by Ryan Howard that knocked the landing gear off of a passing plane.
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| attgig Apr 07 2010 07:09 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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1 inning to show omar/jerry's stupidity. mejia promptly gives up hits to the #7&8 hitters, and somehow gets away with only one run. and jacobs continues his hot night with a popup. 2ks and a popup. great cleanup hitter.... great roster decisions on the # 24/25 guys on the roster...
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 07:18 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="attgig":34pkzp0r]great roster decisions on the # 24/25 guys on the roster...[/quote:34pkzp0r] Don't forget Green, too. None of the 3 have distinguished themselves tonight.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 07:19 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I feel some (probably unnecessary) sarcasm coming on so I think I'll go watch in the other room and turn off the laptop ...
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 07:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Come in off the ledge, fellas. It's game #2.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2010 07:33 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Damn, thought that ball was gonna sneak over Maybin's head.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 07:39 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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tatis singles to put 2 on with 2 out...but its Cora coming up, lack of Reyes hurts here
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 07:41 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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That was a break.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 07:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Love Castillo. Let's do this Wright.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 07:45 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Cora gets on base the best way he can. Castillo does likewise as Reyel Pinto walks him to bring a run home and its bases loaded for David Wright... not suprising the lefty reliever isn't staying in.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 07:47 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Wright up with the tying runs on base. I approve.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 07:49 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Well, fuck.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 07:49 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Wow. That felt like 2009.
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| TransMonk Apr 07 2010 07:49 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Nice rally...until it got smooshed.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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FUCKING TATIS IS THROWN OUT AT THE PLATE ON A WILD PITCH... WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMING HOME THERE DOWN BY THREE RUNS WITH YOUR BEST HITTER AT THE PLATE IF YOU AREN'T 1000000000000000000000000% SURE YOU CAN MAKE IT? FUCK YOU DUMBASS TATIS (OR THE DUMBASS 3B COACH WHO DIDNT SCREAM "STOP") the mets are back
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| HahnSolo Apr 07 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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That would have been low on a list of "how will the Mets F&*^%k this one up".
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Moron. Tying run on first. Good hitter at the plate. No reason to try to score.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 07:51 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Wright didn't give him much help there, did he?
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 07:54 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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helms flies out to start the top of the inning, its been 83 games now and i still expect to see a shot of the Shea outfield when a ball comes off the bat like that
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 07:55 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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i hear a "yankees suck" chant going in the stands, thats when you know the met fans want to ignore whats going on on the field
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 07:59 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Hi, everyone, I'm Tito Fuente Jr., trying to raise money for my charity while simultaneously making you wonder if I am equipped with both male and female genitals.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 08:02 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Nymr83":w5r24m2u]i hear a "yankees suck" chant going in the stands, thats when you know the met fans want to ignore whats going on on the field[/quote:w5r24m2u] Of course that's usually in response to some drunk Yankee fan bellowing, "Let's Go Yankees!" but whatever.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 08:05 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Here we come, 6-4 ... it ain't pretty but here we come.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:05 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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The Marlins play defense the way old people fuck.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:06 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Hey, Jake is allowed to hit. Classick trademarked Marline error and the Mets have the tying run up.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:06 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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well, THAT was a lucky break, should have been two there and a runner on third. instead its a run home and only 1 out. single home Bay here!!
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:08 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Edgy DC":9kajp81b]Hey, Jake is allowed to hit. Classick trademarked Marline error and the Mets have the tying run up.[/quote:9kajp81b] Met fans know that our rallies die in almost comical fashion, i wonder if Marlin fans are ready to put an "E" down as soon as they see the ball hit on the ground?
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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another walk, to Matthews. Mets need to win with all these chances
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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WOAH that shoulda been strike 3 to Francoeur, it was at least too close to take
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:12 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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BALL 4, LOADED AGAIN
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 08:12 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Pretty hard to walk Franc there ... but they did
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:13 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I thought the only way Francoeur would draw a walk would have to include an illegal touching-of-the-mouth. I should change my Frenchy predictions. And to be fair to me, the 1-2 pitch was a strike.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:13 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Diaz gave a strike to Veras and took one back.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:14 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Someone buy the home plate ump a fruit basket or something. Gift BB for the good guys, bases are juiced for Rod-Bar.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:15 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Crap, that was ball 3.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:16 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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And that was ball 4. Poop.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:17 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Barajas works the count full but Barajas pops out to shallow left. Good job by Bay faking and forcing the throw. It was a terrible throw but not bad enough to let him go home. Gotta make him throw it though by tagging up and faking. pitching change
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Cohen: Don't change your dial, there's nothing wrong with your TV set. BOC
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:19 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Memo to self. Run on Coughlan. Worse arm than Mariah Carey.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:19 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Tatis, bases loaded, two down. Let's see him go all Chan Ho on these sumsabitches.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:20 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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These pitchers are begging to walk everyone. Stop swinging at 2-0 pitches low and away.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:21 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Thank you Leo
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:21 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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BOO YA Another bases loaded walk, 6-5, Cora at the deesh.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:22 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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tatis gets away with check swing, could go either way there and hte mets are getting all the border line calls tonight. tatis walks and a run scores! ok Cora, take one in the ribs here.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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JACKPOT!
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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NUNEZ BALKS HOME THE TYING RUN!!!!!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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The Marlin pitchers are VERY gracious guests, aren't they?
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Oh my. Balked in the run, Armando style! BRAND NEW GAME.
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| Kong76 Apr 07 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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BALK, too funny
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| HahnSolo Apr 07 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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That's a balk, seriously?
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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i'm not sure thats a balk. the umps LOVE us for once
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Krod will be tested soon
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:25 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Tatis getting caught not seeming so fundamentally flawed now. Just judgementally flawed.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:25 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="HahnSolo":1w6nvmi6]That's a balk, seriously?[/quote:1w6nvmi6] of course it was..yeeshh
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:25 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Great stuff. Got to collect it if they want to give it away.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:26 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Edgy DC":29q5b08z]Tatis getting caught not seeming so fundamentally flawed now. Just judgementally flawed.[/quote:29q5b08z] Aren't they kinda one in the same?
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:33 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Did Frankie have the blue and orange sided goggles last year? Those things are mint.
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| Elster88 Apr 07 2010 08:36 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Replays show a bad call by the ump at first. This inning should be over. Followed by an 8-hopper through the middle.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:36 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Blue is giving and taking tonight.
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 08:37 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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get er dun boys
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 08:38 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Fman99":xyt4i564]Did Frankie have the blue and orange sided goggles last year? Those things are mint.[/quote:xyt4i564] InDEED. I'm getting a Brendan Donnelly-cum-Hanson-Brothers badass feel. Cora's neck is stiff, eh? Waiter, I'll have a Ruben.
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| Edgy DC Apr 07 2010 08:43 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Ashie62":2t1ytqvm][quote="Edgy DC":2t1ytqvm]Tatis getting caught not seeming so fundamentally flawed now. Just judgementally flawed.[/quote:2t1ytqvm] Aren't they kinda one in the same?[/quote:2t1ytqvm] I don't think so.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:44 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Eight walks since the 6th inning started. Good stuff. Jakes up with Wright on first. Do you send the runner?
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 08:50 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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LGM. Fled Captian Bringdown and the 3rd Inning Wound Lickers for a run, listened to this nuttiness on the radio. Holy weird. Send Wright here 3-2
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:53 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Wright gets the steal, now an IBB to Bay will put it in G-Mat's hands.
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 08:55 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Wow he's leaving Nunez out there to twist isn't he? Nearly 40 pitches...
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 08:56 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 08:58 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Dagnabit.
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| Nymr83 Apr 07 2010 08:58 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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matthews grounds out free baseball!
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 09:00 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Who would have guessed that a 10 inning Boston-MFY game would end before the Mets-Marlins finished the 9th?
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 09:01 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I conflate Iragashi and Takahashi. Is that wrong?
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| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 09:02 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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A lefty reliever wearing 47. Looks familiar.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 09:02 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 09:06 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 09:09 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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No more yankee my wankie
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| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 09:09 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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shitfuck
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| Fman99 Apr 07 2010 09:11 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] |
| Ashie62 Apr 07 2010 09:12 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Fman99"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] |
| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 09:14 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 09:17 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 09:22 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 07 2010 09:23 PM |
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Going down with quiet little tap outs here. C'mon, Grandpa, let's see some life here.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 07 2010 09:23 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2010 09:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] |
| bmfc1 Apr 07 2010 09:24 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Nice comeback. A lot of life despite the early deficit. Let's get 'em tomorrow.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 07 2010 09:44 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Yeah, Tatis has got to be near 100% sure you can score on a passed ball there, but Geez that was a nice play by the catcher Baker! He probably makes that 90+% of the time. And speaking of chances, I would have sent Bay on that short-ish fly to Coughlin in LF based purely on the lousy throw he made earlier. Turns out the second throw was even worse but by then Bay had stopped and to re-start would have been a worse call than Tatis's. Tough to complain about a lack of big hits when you only get 6 hits to begin with.
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| Gwreck Apr 07 2010 10:18 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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We totally did not deserve to win, were given every opportunity to do so but couldn't come up with one hit when it really mattered. Damn. Beautiful night at Shea. Many thanks to KC for the seats. I'm not sure Meija threw anything other than fastballs. Just a tip Jenrry (or Rod, who I assume was calling the pitches): they know you are throwing fastballs. You might want to mix something else in there. Seems that Nolasco was the only one fooled (or really, who couldn't catch up). I too noticed Rodriguez' goggles. I believe they are indeed new.
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| soupcan Apr 08 2010 07:06 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2010 07:18 AM |
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The thing about Tatis getting thrown out is that had he not gone and then Wright made out or whatever, everybody would be screaming that 'Nando should've tried to score on that play. And when Bay did not tag - don't you think he should've and then come half-way? Had he done that, he or the third-base coach would've been able to judge that the throw would've been horribly off-line, no? [quote="Gwreck":2ro5x76t]I too noticed Rodriguez' goggles. I believe they are indeed new.[/quote:2ro5x76t] Wearing them in lieu of contacts b/c of his pink-eye from sprimg training.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2010 07:09 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Fman99":1qlflgq9]Wright gets the steal, now an IBB to Bay will put it in G-Mat's hands.[/quote:1qlflgq9] What did we think of that? I wasn't too crazy about taking the bat out of Jason Bay's hands and turning it over to Gary Matthews. I think I would have rather had Bay take a crack at an extra-base hit.
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| metirish Apr 08 2010 07:16 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I didn't like it , he scores on a gapper from first right? Bay absolved him after the game saying htat yoiu need someone on second to score. I'll take the positives here, they battled back , what about using Mejia in that spot? , it looked like a lost game at that point but there was still plenty of time to come back and win it.
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| Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 07:55 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Fundamental error: he went when a basic understanding of the game situation says don't go unless it's a gimme. Judgemental error: he went when his judgment told him he could make it, but he didn't. He took a chance and lost. Now, I don't think it's an judgmental error there. Yes, the tying run is behind him, but (1) it's the seventh, not the ninth, so getting a single run still has good value there, and (2) the tying run advances to second if he scores. So I dug up the old Win Expectancy Finder. Maybe there's a newer one, but it has no data after 2006. Using data from 2001-2006, I look at the Mets' situation. The game situation --- bottom of the seventh, down by three, bases loaded, two outs. The Mets average win expectancy based on that situation is 10.3%. (Unfortunately, there's no way to factor in whether David Wright is up or Wilson Valdez, but you can arbitrarily factor that in if you like.) Wild pitch happens, run scores, runners advance, that number shoots up to 20.6%. That's value right there. Enough value to risk it? I don't know. Frayed Knot may recall the formula for working that out. Anyhow, I was (as usual) most frustrated with Jerry Manuel, for (1) not using Rodriguez for a second inning, and (2) using him in game one when it would have been a good opportunity for Mejia or Tak or Igg to get their feet wet by making a debut in low-leverage conditions.
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| soupcan Apr 08 2010 07:58 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Edgy DC":37vbui5u]Anyhow, I was (as usual) most frustrated with Jerry Manuel, for (1) not using Rodriguez for a second inning, and (2) using him in game one when it would have been a good opportunity for Mejia or Tak or Igg to get their feet wet by making a debut in low-leverage conditions.[/quote:37vbui5u] Excellent, excellent points.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 08 2010 08:00 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Re: Wright stealing - I dunno. The odds of Matthews getting a hit of any kind have to be greater than Bay getting an XBH, and if Bay hits a single or walks you still need Matthews to get that hit.
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| Gwreck Apr 08 2010 08:11 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Getting Rodriguez into the game for a second inning I think would have required either Francoeur in center (via double-switch and moving Tatis to RF) or having Francisco bat. (Note that I am accepting the prior player substitutions as fundamentally sound, which I think they were). On a side note, I was a little surprised to see Tatis enter the game at second base in the top of the 8th. With Cora, Tatis and Wright available, it seemed strange to have Tatis at second base. My impression was that using those 3 players, the best defensive alignment would be to have Wright at SS, Cora at 2B and Tatis at 3B.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 08 2010 08:17 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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- I didn't have a problem with Wright stealing, mainly for the reasons Swannie mentions (odds of Mathews hit vs Bay XBH) And, btw, WTF was Ramirez doing playing almost directly up the middle?!? Off his bat I swore GMJ had hisself a game-winning hit only to find it a routine grounder. Both earlier and later the Mets hit grounders into the hole and in those cases Hanley was playing there. - would like to have seen Rodriguez for a second inning although it would have entailed a double-switch leading into his appearance as his spot was leading off the next inning. That bad call at 1B didn't help any as it made him pitch to 2 more batters than he should have. That he pitched in game 1 with a day off in between I don't think had anything to do with it.
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| Centerfield Apr 08 2010 08:29 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Did no one else have an issue with Jerry allowing Takahashi to face Paulino? Especially if you've got Nieve ready and Ramirez on deck. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 08 2010 08:46 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Centerfield":11pi9783]Did no one else have an issue with Jerry allowing Takahashi to face Paulino? Especially if you've got Nieve ready and Ramirez on deck. Seems like a no-brainer to me.[/quote:11pi9783] I agree. GKR kept saying that Takahashi was more effective vs. righties than lefties, but that doesn't mean he's more effective vs. righties than Nieve would be. If Manuel is trying to establish Takahashi as a guy who can get out righties and lefties, fine, but that wasn't the ideal spot for that little experiment.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2010 08:48 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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I wasn't upset about that, just the result. Don't think you can afford to go crazy matching up in the 10th inning, especially vs. Ronny F Paulino; if that's really the case you may as well farm out the guy. Credit to Wes Helms for a quality AB to get it started there.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2010 08:54 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Swan Swan H":1qhwl1nf]Re: Wright stealing - I dunno. The odds of Matthews getting a hit of any kind have to be greater than Bay getting an XBH, and if Bay hits a single or walks you still need Matthews to get that hit.[/quote:1qhwl1nf] This was my exact thinking, too, when Wright stole. Also, I would have been happy if Bay worked out a walk with Wright on first.
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| Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 08:54 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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RE: Tak vs. Paulino: Yeah, if you're going to avoid that, the better move, to my thinking, is to go to Nieve outright to start the inning.
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| TransMonk Apr 08 2010 09:52 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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As disappointing as last night's outcome was, it was the first full game of the season I got to watch live and it was nice to see an extra inning battle with some drama. It was what I had been craving for the past few months. This team has some potetial problems that got uncovered last night, but like others said in this very thread, I can't get completely up in arms after only 2 games. Especially when they're 1-1.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2010 10:01 AM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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[quote="Benjamin Grimm":1mi14dxb][quote="Fman99":1mi14dxb]Wright gets the steal, now an IBB to Bay will put it in G-Mat's hands.[/quote:1mi14dxb] What did we think of that? I wasn't too crazy about taking the bat out of Jason Bay's hands and turning it over to Gary Matthews. I think I would have rather had Bay take a crack at an extra-base hit.[/quote:1mi14dxb] I thought they should have stolen with Jacobs up. Then, if Fredi wants to walk Jacobs with one out... well, by all means, go right ahead. As a matter of fact, I'm still not sure why Wright didn't run there, especially since all they were throwing the WindMachine was sliders.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 08 2010 12:21 PM Re: IGT, Game Two, 4/7/2010 |
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Running w/Jacobs up would have taken away the hole between 1st & 2nd for the lefty. Not so important with Bay up and one out less to work with. And, yeah, Wright stealing so they could IW Bay is the same result as Bay walking and forcing David over there and we certainly wouldn't scoff at that outcome. I was also OK with leaving Takahashi in. There's a limit on how match-up nutty you want to get, especially for a non-descript hitter in the 10th inning when you're already on pitcher #6
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3 bags for Cora, sac fly Castillo, & bingo-bango, we're even.
I'll drink to that.
Donger want relief.
Ah... Nieve.
