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IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

bmfc1 Apr 08 2010 01:56 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2010 02:09 PM

Marlins: 1. Coghlan, LF 2. Maybin, CF 3. Ramirez, SS 4. Cantu, 3B 5. Uggla, 2B 6. Paulino, C 7. Ross, RF 8. G. Sanchez, 1B 9. Robertson, LHP METS: 1. Pagan, CF 2. Castillo, 2B 3. Wright, 3B 4. Bay, LF 5. Francoeur, RF 6. Tatis, 1B 7. Barajas, C 8. Tejada, SS 9. Niese, LHP

Gwreck Apr 08 2010 02:08 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

That's a better lineup.

Ceetar Apr 08 2010 02:21 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="Gwreck":2bklcfog]That's a better lineup.[/quote:2bklcfog] Well, not by a ton. Tatis doesn't strike out as much but he makes more outs per plate apperance. And who knows if Tejada can hit. It's better constructed though.

Gwreck Apr 08 2010 02:24 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="Ceetar":2l8844xp]Tatis doesn't strike out as much but he makes more outs per plate apperance.[/quote:2l8844xp] Makes more outs per plate appearance than who? You realize that Tatis replaced Jacobs, right?

Swan Swan H Apr 08 2010 02:27 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="Ceetar":84v08amz][quote="Gwreck":84v08amz]That's a better lineup.[/quote:84v08amz] Well, not by a ton. Tatis doesn't strike out as much but he makes more outs per plate apperance. And who knows if Tejada can hit. It's better constructed though.[/quote:84v08amz] What stat are you using for the Tatis/Jacobs comparison, because over the past two seasons Tatis OBP was 40-60 points higher, his OPS was 40-80 points higher, and his OPS+ was 15-20 points higher than Jacobs.

attgig Apr 08 2010 02:47 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

at first, i thought it was a lot better lineup, till i realized that 3-8 were all rightys. i guess it makes sense with a starting LHP, but once the bullpen gets in the game, I'm guessing Jerry empties the bench of the lefty batters.

Swan Swan H Apr 08 2010 02:51 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Enough about lineups. Our worst guy with a raging case of the Guadelajara monster-squirts is better than their best guy on his best day after a handful of those little black capsules I found in Lenny Dykstra's old foot locker. We fear nothing, but are a little squeamish around hairy bugs and shirtless guys asking us to hit them in the stomach with a bat. Play time is over. Play ball!

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 02:56 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2010 03:07 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2010 03:26 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

The Marlins looked so comfortable hanging on the inside portion of the plate, it was like they were planning to stay overnight. I wouldn't mind a little chin music from Niese to start things off. (It would also buy him a little inside-corner/outside-corner room to sneak his curve in for Ks.)

attgig Apr 08 2010 06:06 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

turning on the game a little late. what have I missed?

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:14 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Just getting there now, and the Fish defense immediately introduces itself.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2010 06:16 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Deflected-ball singles and such got the Fish their run. Robertson and Niese have been more or less cruising-- with Niese putting out 2 fires not entirely of his own making-- since.

attgig Apr 08 2010 06:17 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

yeah frenchy! love seeing the 3rd base coach falling down waving in bay

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2010 06:18 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Nate Robertson, you are not as impressive as you've seemed tonight, AND... YA BEEN FRENCHED!

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:23 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Hit-and-run double, French-style, and theMets have tied it.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:35 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

So was that He-Fairy interfering with the ball?

Ashie62 Apr 08 2010 06:36 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

The schnaz was cruising til now

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:37 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Could Beltran have gotten to that baby? Will he ever again be able to get to one of those?

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:43 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

That's when you slide into first. Nice wheels Castillo. Bat him leadoff.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 06:52 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Note to self: Gaby Sanchez can hit the other way. Three-one, Fishies.

Fman99 Apr 08 2010 07:38 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Wow, light on the IGT participation! I just got the kids to bed. There's hope, Nunez is warming up for the 9th.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 07:40 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Fuckin' Gaby Sanchez with the 11-pitch walk.

Fman99 Apr 08 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Stay tuned after the game for the "Smarmy Fuck" show, staring DJ Chunky and Boat-Killer.

Fman99 Apr 08 2010 07:44 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Jerry playing the matchups, gives Nieve the yank after 2 pitches and 1 out. Whatever. I blame Tony LaRussa for all this bullpen overmanagement bull-SHEET.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2010 07:47 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

at the game with KC now. Looking for9th inning thun-dah Yah, ah ah ahhh_ ah ah ahhh, ah,ah...

Fman99 Apr 08 2010 07:53 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

On to the last of the 9th... Tatis, Barajas and Tejada due up. LETS GO METS GO

Fman99 Apr 08 2010 08:00 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Blech. And that's that then. Go away, Marlins. Get outta my fuckin house.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2010 08:02 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Nice change by Nuñez. Too bad we couldn't face the same bullpen as last night. Who were those guys? Let's play them again.

Ashie62 Apr 08 2010 08:04 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

This Mets team looks very similar to last years. The design of the dimensions and wall height for citifield had to be done by the mad hatter or some stupid shit. I hate this fucking stadium. So there..

metirish Apr 08 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

On the positive side I thought Niese looked good after all he has been through and I feel comfortable with him out there.

MFS62 Apr 08 2010 09:39 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2010 09:57 PM

[quote="Fman99":2ulxgnmr] I blame Tony LaRussa for all this bullpen overmanagement bull-SHEET.[/quote:2ulxgnmr] That situational pitching stuff changed the face of the game (and the makeup of rosters) forever. Maybe the subject of an entire thread, but I just got home from work and am tired. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2010 09:43 PM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

We already knew the butt end of the lineup was sketchy: When the meat can't produce (and vs. a lefty I was shocked Robertson survived three turns through) I think we should expect trouble. Checked out the park, met Hahn Solo for the first time and KC at McFadden's (no atmosphere, music too loud, but works as a meeting place); dug the new look including the newly laid brick for my dad; experienced the typical 30 degree difference between CF and the rest of the East Coast of the USA (srsly, had to move it was so cold in the breeze in out CF seats). Next time.

HahnSolo Apr 09 2010 06:57 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

On the plus side, if you had to move seats, last night was the night to do it. There were some left field sections that had maybe a handful of people and that was it. Nice seeing the changes made to the park. I loved the HOF (interesting conspiracy theory from a non-Mets fan: that the Wilpons held off on doing a HOF the first year because they worried it might draw attention away from the Rotunda), and McFaddens, while loud and lacking any kind of charm, is well-staffed and a much-needed meet-up spot.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 09:29 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="metirish":1fylfi46]On the positive side I thought Niese looked good after all he has been through and I feel comfortable with him out there.[/quote:1fylfi46] He gives me a much-less-palpable sense of dread on the mound than anyone else but Johan.

themetfairy Apr 09 2010 09:30 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":nhagigdz][quote="metirish":nhagigdz]On the positive side I thought Niese looked good after all he has been through and I feel comfortable with him out there.[/quote:nhagigdz] He gives me a much-less-palpable sense of dread on the mound than anyone else but Johan.[/quote:nhagigdz] That's one bar that's set pretty low....

Edgy DC Apr 09 2010 10:03 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

I'll bet the Mets pitching is more or less fine if they don't go casting off any more Figueroas.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 10:08 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="themetfairy":17rzrdnu][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":17rzrdnu][quote="metirish":17rzrdnu]On the positive side I thought Niese looked good after all he has been through and I feel comfortable with him out there.[/quote:17rzrdnu] He gives me a much-less-palpable sense of dread on the mound than anyone else but Johan.[/quote:17rzrdnu] That's one bar that's set pretty low....[/quote:17rzrdnu] Yes, yes it is. Although, to be fair, a good portion of the aforementioned dread is located in the gloves playing Pip to Maine, Perez and Pelf's Gladys. (Niese's backing crew wasn't particularly on-key last night, either.)

MFS62 Apr 09 2010 10:11 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="Edgy DC":p0azeyuk]I'll bet the Mets pitching is more or less fine if they don't go casting off any more Figueroas.[/quote:p0azeyuk] There will never be another like Figgy in our hearts. Later

Edgy DC Apr 09 2010 10:20 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Well, speak for your own heart, I just think the estimates of the Mets pitching are wildly undervaluing the staff.

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2010 10:47 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

So far the Niese-not-Marquis decision is working out in our favor JN: 6.0 IP; 3 ER; 8 H; 2 BB; 3 K JM: 4.0 IP; 6 ER; 8 H; 3 BB; 2 K

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 11:19 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

[quote="Edgy DC"]Well, speak for your own heart, I just think the estimates of the Mets pitching are wildly undervaluing the staff.

Among the sources of these estimates? MerkinFace McShakyHandontheTiller, hisself: [quote="David Lennon, after talking to BuntSac McQuack"]"I think an honest assessment is that we have to be somewhat concerned. We had some setbacks and some inconsistencies there last year, so we can’t just assume that that’s going to be lights out. We have some questions there." This was after Game 2.

Edgy DC Apr 09 2010 11:32 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

Well, my estimates of Jerry are lower. But going for "lights out" is the mistake right there. Go for better.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2010 11:37 AM Re: IGT--Marlins @ Mets, 04/08/10

That said, I didn't mean to unduly diminish my praise of Niese's job last night-- Jonny the Nose was damn fine last night, actualmente. Between the Wright/Tatis awkwardness in the first and Maybin's seeing-eye single trickling past Castillo in the fifth, his line could have-- and arguably, should have-- included 1 runs and 5 hits instead of 3 and 8. He challenged hitters, moved the ball around... and the HanRam strikeout with Maybin on was impressive (if eventually mooted). I mean, he busted the reigning league batting champ in on his hands. That's hard to do.