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bmfc1 Apr 06 2010 08:32 AM

If you're interested in reading the thoughts of female baseball fans that love the Nationals, then I have the blog for you: http://wevegotheart.com/ One of the writers is my friend Jenn who you know as dcbatgirl from my Mets @ Nats KTE's.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 09:04 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

The writing's snappy and personal. I kinda like it-- from an outsider view, lost causes generally make for the best blogging. But this was a little unsettling... Carolyn was born and raised in Morris County, NJ as a Mets fan, but left to attend college at The George Washington University to study Marketing and Business Administration. After college, Carolyn moved to Chicago where she attempted to juggle lazy days at Wrigley Field with a busy career as a Warehouse Management Consultant. She moved back to the Washington, DC area in 2005. Carolyn now lives in Arlington, VA and is thrilled to be a 100% Washington Nationals fan forever! What the hell kind of sports bigamy is this? If you want to change your name-- in this burg-- you've got to present a compelling reason to a civil judge... and this flip-floppery within the division* is allowed, willy-nilly? *I have friends who defected from the Orioles after two decades of Angelos-- a significant number because they had kids coming or just over the horizon, and didn't want to subject them to the same indignities they've suffered since the Cal-and-Eddie show. I know a couple of VERY casual fans of other teams who've gravitated toward the Nats as other Washington transplants do (a la Redskin loyalty-development). But holy hell...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 06 2010 09:06 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Yeah, I hate to make sweeping generalizations based on blog bios, but this Carolyn is an awful person and obviously doomed to be transfered to the Bronx.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 09:14 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I don't understand switching loyalties as an adult. Rooting interest is, to me, a holdover from childhood, not something I'd get started on as a somewhat rational adult. I have a friend who moved from Long Island to Florida after college. For a while he rooted for the Mets from afar (thanks to Channel 9) but when the Marlins came along he jumped aboard. He recently asked me why I never became a Phillies fan. Even though I've lived in the Philly area for over 20 years now, I still see them as just another out-of-town team. My sister, however, married a Phillies fan and she now roots for guys like Cole Hamels and Jimmy Rollins and other non-entities. I don't get it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 06 2010 09:24 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I could be a Kristen fan though

metirish Apr 06 2010 09:37 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Carolyn & the Nats are now BFF...OMFG....AYFKM...IDTBK in the pic above me LOLS

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 09:50 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2010 09:56 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't understand switching loyalties as an adult. Rooting interest is, to me, a holdover from childhood, not something I'd get started on as a somewhat rational adult. I have a friend who moved from Long Island to Florida after college. For a while he rooted for the Mets from afar (thanks to Channel 9) but when the Marlins came along he jumped aboard. He recently asked me why I never became a Phillies fan. Even though I've lived in the Philly area for over 20 years now, I still see them as just another out-of-town team. My sister, however, married a Phillies fan and she now roots for guys like Cole Hamels and Jimmy Rollins and other non-entities. I don't get it. Ah, the I-married-a-vegetarian-so-I'm-vegetarian-too-- a particularly insidious brand of loyalty-sluttery. (Yeah, that's right-- I called yer sister a slut.) To me, the loyalty's half of the point of adopting a team. Switching because you move just seems plain weird to me, like moving to Seattle and adopting your Tacoma cousin as your new brother, because he lives closer than your old one, and you get to hang out at his house more often. The only way it makes sense to me is if you didn't love the old team, really, in the first place.

Gwreck Apr 06 2010 09:51 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I've always believed that a person is entitled to change sports loyalties only under the following circumstances: 1. Your team moves, in which case you can choose any new team, or disown the sport entirely if you want; 2. You or immediate family member plays for or is manager/general manager/owner of a team other than the one you root for, in which case you can root for the team you or they are affiliated with; 3. You move to a different city and adopt the local team as your own. This is a once-lifetime, irreversible allowance.

Ceetar Apr 06 2010 10:01 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Gwreck wrote: I've always believed that a person is entitled to change sports loyalties only under the following circumstances: 1. Your team moves, in which case you can choose any new team, or disown the sport entirely if you want; 2. You or immediate family member plays for or is manager/general manager/owner of a team other than the one you root for, in which case you can root for the team you or they are affiliated with; 3. You move to a different city and adopt the local team as your own. This is a once-lifetime, irreversible allowance. 3 is still sketchy. Maybe if it's your first move as an 'adult', and a different league. Like moving to Anaheim and becoming an Angels fan. There is no competing rooting interest and gradually the Angels will become more relevant in your life. Even if my team moved, I don't think I'd stop rooting for them given the options these days. I just couldn't not root for Wright and Reyes for example.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 10:12 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I'm not on board with 3 either, unless you're 20 or younger I suppose. If the Mets ever relocated, I'd be done as a baseball fan. I'd probably pay a little attention to them the first couple of years, but less and less each passing year. I image that some Dodgers fans, for example, continued to follow the team in LA while they still had familiar faces like Reese and Snider and Hodges but cared a lot less, if at all, about guys like Maury Wills, who came along later.

G-Fafif Apr 06 2010 10:13 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

All must make their own decisions, he says as nonjudgmentally as possible, but if you can switch without agonizing over the choice, then you weren't more than a "hey, I kind of like them" or "when I was a kid, I liked them but I stopped paying attention" lapsed fan at best.

G-Fafif Apr 06 2010 10:17 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not on board with 3 either, unless you're 20 or younger I suppose. If the Mets ever relocated, I'd be done as a baseball fan. I'd probably pay a little attention to them the first couple of years, but less and less each passing year. I image that some Dodgers fans, for example, continued to follow the team in LA while they still had familiar faces like Reese and Snider and Hodges but cared a lot less, if at all, about guys like Maury Wills, who came along later. There were and are Dodger fans who stayed Dodger fans as well as (I can assure you from personal interaction) Giants fans who stayed Giants fans from 3,000 miles away. I know second-generation San Francisco Giants fans who've lived in the New York area all their lives. Their fathers stuck with the Giants after they headed west and it remained the family business. Keeping the team name probably helps in that regard. If the New York Giants had become the San Francisco Seagulls, I doubt the connection would have stayed as strong.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 10:21 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

G-Fafif wrote: Keeping the team name probably helps in that regard. If the New York Giants had become the San Francisco Seagulls, I doubt the connection would have stayed as strong. I think that's probably true. The Giants and Dodgers do "feel" like their history stretches back to New York, much more so than the Orioles connection to their St. Louis days, which is almost never acknowledged.

Fman99 Apr 06 2010 10:21 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I could be a Kristen fan though Boyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyng Go Nationals fans who are hot chicks !

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 10:23 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think that's probably true. The Giants and Dodgers do "feel" like their history stretches back to New York, much more so than the Orioles connection to their St. Louis days, which is almost never acknowledged. Or the MFYs' connection to Bawlmer?

G-Fafif Apr 06 2010 10:46 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Anybody can root from anywhere for anybody with relative ease these days, but I'm trying to picture some diehard North Philadelphian staying up late to watch his beloved Athletics, name and all -- even these guys, particularly considering there was a previous detour to Kansas City.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 06 2010 10:49 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

G-Fafif wrote: Anybody can root from anywhere for anybody with relative ease these days, but I'm trying to picture some diehard North Philadelphian staying up late to watch his beloved Athletics, name and all -- even these guys, particularly considering there was a previous detour to Kansas City. Costumes help actors get into character; I'd imagine it does the same for fanboys. I'd imagine it only helps that they live a train/bus ride from Mitchell-and-Ness HQ. Still, yeah, takes a lot of brain-squinting to see that in my mind's eye.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 10:58 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I took my kids to that Philadelphia Athletics museum last year. It's not much, but it was a short drive. They seemed to get a minor kick out of it. If they liked that, they should really like the museum at Citi Field when we get there. I got the impression from chatting with the guys at the store/museum that they're pretty much Phillies fans now. Their allegiance stayed in Philadelphia; it didn't go to Kansas City and Oakland. I've often felt (when I think about it) that the wrong team left Philadelphia. The Athletics had a much richer history. They just happened to be in a down cycle at the time that the big rush of franchise relocations happened.

sharpie Apr 06 2010 11:00 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

After moving to San Francisco as a 14-year-old I stopped following baseball for a few years. Then, due to a Giants-lovin' roommate I adopted them as kind of a co-team. Once I moved back to New York, however, I dropped them immediately although I still root for them to win the NL West and was for them in the World Series vs. the Angels. Had a hard time in those years going to Giants-Mets games as the pull of the orange-and-blue would overtake the pull of the orange-and-black.

Edgy DC Apr 06 2010 11:04 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I had a friend who acknowledged she grew up a Mets fan, but living in Washington, she found her kids gravitating toward the Nats, and so jumped ship to root with them. Until the Nats acquired Elijah Dukes, and she couldn't find a rationalization to root that worked for her as a mother, so she took her family and checked them all back into Metland. I don't know if she's maintained that since his release in March. Hope so.

bmfc1 Apr 06 2010 11:49 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Carolyn and Jenn are trying to register but are having some trouble. Perhaps our "sys ops" can contact them. I think that you can get them via their blog. Meanwhile, Carolyn would have posted this: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rooting for the Mets was a choice assigned to me as a child. Rooting for the Cubs was a way of fitting in to a new city - one that didn't particularly like people from the East Coast - but never made me belong. But rooting for the Nationals...that's the only time the choice felt like my own, and felt right. :-)

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 11:50 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

What, Kristen doesn't want to join us?

bmfc1 Apr 06 2010 11:56 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Benjamin Grimm wrote: What, Kristen doesn't want to join us? I hope JCL didn't scare her off.

dinosaur jesus Apr 06 2010 12:29 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I think one reason I've been able to stay a Mets fan is that I've never lived anywhere near New York. In most places I've been, I've ended up despising the local team, whether it's the Pirates, the Cardinals, or the Blue Jays. Somehow being around the fans makes me not want to be one. (Though I'm not sure the Jays actually have any fans--all those people who used to fill Skydome in the early nineties were really just there to gawk at the roof.) Mets fans are a higher class of people, of course, so maybe it would be different with them.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 12:33 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

My daughter, growing up a Mets fan in Phillies territory, remarked last year at Citi Field how great it was to be surrounded by "her own kind." It's actually become a novelty to me as well after all these years, and it is nice. I understand the concept of having disdain for the local teams. I wouldn't have thought I'd care one way or the other about the Philadelphia Eagles, but I always find myself rooting for them to have an early playoff exit (or to miss the playoffs entirely) so that the fans would shut up. The whole fandom thing seems awfully silly when you're on the outside looking in.

DocTee Apr 06 2010 12:36 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Living 3000 miles from Shea has only added to my love for the team. And in a town of 30,000 there are a half-dozen NYC area transplants (including my NEXT DOOR neighbor) who are as die-hard in their allegiance as we...and I have yet to encounter a MFY fan!

themetfairy Apr 06 2010 12:48 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

G-Fafif wrote: Anybody can root from anywhere for anybody with relative ease these days, but I'm trying to picture some diehard North Philadelphian staying up late to watch his beloved Athletics, name and all -- even these guys, particularly considering there was a previous detour to Kansas City. A cousin of mine in Pennsylvania - a contemporary of my father's and not a major sports fan - still identifies himself as an A's fan.

Frayed Knot Apr 06 2010 01:09 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

If I ever moved out of the NY sphere to a city with [u:386c8p3r]an American League[/u:386c8p3r] team nearby I could see adopting them as my AL team (never really had one with the exception of whoever was playing the Yanx that day) but not as a replacement of or substitute for the Mets. Besides, long-distance fandom is definitely easier these days. Thanx Al G.

bmfc1 Apr 06 2010 02:09 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Update: Kristen cannot register as well. That's 3 ladies that want to register and cannot. Please help them.

Edgy DC Apr 06 2010 02:16 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I knew we were having probs.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2010 02:19 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

What happens when they try to register? I think the auto-registering feature is turned off because of all the spammers. If you can IM me the user names they want to use, and their e-mail addresses, I can probably get them set up.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2010 02:29 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Never lived IN New York or anywhere east of the Mississip', so I don't know what the hell it's like to be with the one you love. But when I lived in PHX, adopting the D-backs was never even a thought, and living in the LA area for 12 or 13 years, I never once thought about picking up a mistress, AL or otherwise. I follow the Dodgers more than the Angels because 1) I hate the Angels, 2) Dodgers are NL, and 3) my bro and friends are huge Dodgers peeps. But liking and following ain't the same cut of beef. All the Phoenix peeps I knew who adopted the Snakes didn't care for baseball one way or the other, had no team they loved up til then, and/or really loved wearing purple, all sizable personality defects, sez me.

Farmer Ted Apr 06 2010 02:34 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

A bunch of Annie Savoys.

G-Fafif Apr 06 2010 05:41 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

bmfc1 wrote: Update: Kristen cannot register as well. That's 3 ladies that want to register and cannot. Please help them. Automatically flinching when there are girls around and mistrustful of anyone who doesn't love our team. The internal mechanism behind this board is a dead ringer for my ten-year-old self.

Fman99 Apr 06 2010 07:36 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

bmfc1 wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: What, Kristen doesn't want to join us? I hope JCL didn't scare her off. Yeah, that guy is a pig.

Ashie62 Apr 06 2010 10:33 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

People that change personal MLB allegiances may not be real baseball fans

bmfc1 Apr 09 2010 05:39 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

The bloggers at We Got Heart are doing their own version of our KTE: http://wevegotheart.com/2010/04/08/scou ... ts-v-mets/

Willets Point Apr 10 2010 09:04 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Frayed Knot wrote: If I ever moved out of the NY sphere to a city with an American League team nearby I could see adopting them as my AL team (never really had one with the exception of whoever was playing the Yanx that day) but not as a replacement of or substitute for the Mets. This is exactly what happened with me and the Red Sox becoming my second favorite team.

G-Fafif Apr 10 2010 04:39 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

The Mets-Nats communication channels are crystal clear. The Nats Blog got a world exclusive with Faith and Fear on their current opponent, the Mets here. Interestingly, per the flexible allegiances of the Nats chix, the father of the Nats blogger is a Mets fan.

MFS62 Apr 11 2010 08:46 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

G-Fafif wrote: There were and are Dodger fans who stayed Dodger fans as well as (I can assure you from personal interaction) Giants fans who stayed Giants fans from 3,000 miles away. I know second-generation San Francisco Giants fans who've lived in the New York area all their lives. Their fathers stuck with the Giants after they headed west and it remained the family business. The local media tried to keep the flame alive. For about two years, Les Keiter would recreate SF day games, complete with tapes of crowd noises), to the NY audience on radio. And Channel 13 (then still a commercial station) showed weekend LA and SF road games from Philly and, IIRC, St. Louis. I watched and listened, rooting for those teams to lose every game. Later

Willets Point Apr 14 2010 08:17 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

This woman is blogging about the Mets or rather her efforts to become a Mets fan: Rookie Mets Fan.

Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 08:24 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

My heart just skipped a beat. Please recruit her.

TransMonk Apr 14 2010 08:28 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Yeah...that's pretty fuckin' awesome!

Willets Point Apr 14 2010 08:33 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Edgy DC wrote: My heart just skipped a beat. Please recruit her. You could send her an email.

Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 08:40 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I've already requested the download code to her album.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:02 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Edgy DC wrote: I've already requested the download code to her album. Least sexy innuendo since "filing jointly."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 09:06 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

I don't know about you guys and the librarians.

TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:11 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Edgy DC wrote: I've already requested the download code to her album. As have I.

metirish Apr 14 2010 09:27 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

This blog is gold Also—and I’m sure this is rare among sports fans—I feel silly cheering when they tell you to. Like when they flash “Let’s Go Mets” onscreen? It makes me feel like Pavlov’s dog—like a sunburned, $7.75 Bud Light-drinking dog, being fucked in the ass by ALBA BOTANICA SUNSCREEN and KOZY SHACK, THE OFFICIAL PUDDING OF THE NEW YORK METS! But I like the game, I swear.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 14 2010 09:50 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

That's great stuff. I'm on her myspace page right now rocking the tunes. Myspace, I said!

TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:58 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Love the avater, Seo!

A Boy Named Seo Apr 14 2010 10:02 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

it's groovy as shit, huh?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 10:03 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

metirish wrote: This blog is gold Also—and I’m sure this is rare among sports fans—I feel silly cheering when they tell you to. Like when they flash “Let’s Go Mets” onscreen? It makes me feel like Pavlov’s dog—like a sunburned, $7.75 Bud Light-drinking dog, being fucked in the ass by ALBA BOTANICA SUNSCREEN and KOZY SHACK, THE OFFICIAL PUDDING OF THE NEW YORK METS! But I like the game, I swear. I like her for the articles, too! (Seriously, it's funny. I could check in on this from time to time.)

TransMonk Apr 14 2010 10:24 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Got my code...I'm downloading it and listening tonight before the game for luck.

G-Fafif Apr 14 2010 10:41 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

If you can endeavor to become a Mets fan, as an adult, in a season shaping like this, well, congratulations, I guess.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 10:54 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

G-Fafif wrote: If you can endeavor to become a Mets fan, as an adult, in a season shaping like this, well, congratulations, I guess. She's buying low. It's a savvy team-investment choice. (The Pirates or Orioles would probably be savvier choices, but still...)

G-Fafif Apr 14 2010 10:59 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G-Fafif wrote: If you can endeavor to become a Mets fan, as an adult, in a season shaping like this, well, congratulations, I guess. She's buying low. It's a savvy team-investment choice. (The Pirates or Orioles would probably be savvier choices, but still...) Talk about your penny stocks.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 21 2010 04:12 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

She's now looking for solicitations on baseball books (go plug your shit, guys) and contemplating a Mr. Met tattoo. I'd ask that chick's dad for permission to marry her.

A Boy Named Seo May 03 2010 11:48 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Ah, shit, I'm busted.

Fman99 May 04 2010 06:18 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Ah, shit, I'm busted. Oh snap

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2010 07:39 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Ah, shit, I'm busted. Heh. I was reading the linked page this morning when Wifey came by, took one look, and said, "Why does every woman look like that today?"

seawolf17 May 04 2010 09:15 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

That's excellent. Come join us, Anastasia! We'll keep ABNS locked up. He's not as creepy as his avatar suggests, I promise.

A Boy Named Seo May 04 2010 10:18 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

seawolf17 wrote: That's excellent. Come join us, Anastasia! We'll keep ABNS locked up. He's not as creepy as his avatar suggests, I promise. Clearly never met me in real life.

themetfairy May 04 2010 11:52 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Anastasia - not only is Seo a good guy, but he's great with kids. He was really patient with my guys when we met him at an Anaheim game in 2002.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2010 11:58 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

themetfairy wrote: Anastasia - not only is Seo a good guy, but he's great with kids. He was really patient with my guys when we met him at an Anaheim game in 2002. Now that's some SOLID wingwork!

Fman99 May 04 2010 01:36 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

That endorsement from Isaac is like having Ike Turner tell you how much he likes your backhand.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 19 2010 05:03 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Quitter.

G-Fafif Jul 19 2010 05:11 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Hipster nonsense. You're better off without.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 19 2010 05:32 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Quitter. I'm sorry she didn't get the tattoo first. Hipster douchette.

Edgy DC Jul 19 2010 07:27 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

No Seo for you.

TransMonk Jul 19 2010 07:37 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

BOOO!!!

Fman99 Jul 19 2010 07:52 PM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Seriously, she barely outlasted Gary Mathews Jr. What a sissy.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2010 12:24 AM Re: Chicks Blog The Nats

Fman99 wrote: Seriously, she barely outlasted Gary Mathews Jr. What a sissy. Maybe she'll be back in eight years.