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Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

G-Fafif
Apr 11 2010 10:46 PM

Ask a question, don't get the answer you think you should...shoot, just make up the rest. Ian O'Connor on ESPN New York does just that with Johan Santana.

Too bad Ian didn't ask him on Monday, but then he'd have to have written "Johan Santana couldn't be happier with the choice he made two years ago..."

Santana is Flushing away his talent
By Ian O'Connor
ESPNNewYork.com


Johan Santana would give back the $2.5 million, every last cent. If he knew he was cutting a Faustian deal with the Mets, he would have walked out of that negotiating room rather than nickel-and-dime a franchise that would make him live to regret it.

In the winter of 2008, the Mets offered Santana $135 million and their blue-chip recruit insisted on $5 million more. Santana walked into the room an ace and left it a closer. He agreed to split the difference and put his golden left arm in the hands of an organization forever leading the league in empty promises and broken hearts.

So two seasons and two starts later, after knee and elbow surgeries, after his new team choked in Year 1, collapsed in Year 2 and finished its sixth home game of Year 3 with a lost series to the unworthy Nationals and a 2-4 record, I asked Santana if he regretted doing business with the Mets.

Had his water been spiked with truth serum, his answer would've sounded like this: "What do you think?"

Dressing alone at his locker, refusing to darken the mood inside the losing Citi Field clubhouse, the serum-free Santana said, "No, it's not my first time. I've been there before, man. I think we're working on it, making some adjustments. We've got the right guys to do it, and we just have to make it happen, be more consistent, start doing the little things."

He had surrendered a first-inning grand slam to Josh Willingham a few hours earlier, allowing himself to be outdueled by Livan Hernandez, who looked like he belonged in a Flushing park playing high-arc softball.

Johan Santana pitched without his best stuff on Sunday, and it made for an ugly afternoon for the Mets.
Santana had positively nothing at the start. His changeup wasn't biting and his fastball was cutting when it wasn't supposed to cut.

"I was all over the place," he said.

Nyjer Morgan's leadoff triple and a pair of walks preceded Willingham's trip to the plate. Santana threw a flat changeup, Willingham crashed it against the outfield wall, and after a surreal sequence in which Adam Dunn flattened Rod Barajas and Santana executed a Jeter-like flip to the plate to get Willingham, the umps went to the tape and ruled Willingham's shot a grand slam.

"And just like that," Santana said, "the whole game changed."

So did the whole season, all six games worth. The Mets couldn't afford to lose this Santana start against a wretched opponent, not when they were facing a six-game road trip featuring five games started by Mets not named Johan Santana.

[I can't tell if O'Connor is saying "only six games" or he is incapable of irony at his own expense.]

But lose it they did, pushing Jerry Manuel closer to the brink, and leaving their home crowd with one highlight to savor (the eighth-inning video of the New York Rangers taking a 1-0 lead in Philly) and one lowlight to cheer (the ninth-inning dustup after Francisco Rodriguez nailed Willie Harris).

Yes, Santana has to be wondering what in the world he's gotten himself into. He's only human. That voice in the back of his head is growing louder, moving to the front, telling him he should've put his money on a different horse. He was a frequent playoff participant in Minnesota, and his friend and fellow recruit, Rodriguez, was another October regular who won a World Series with the Angels.

[O'Connor has the best ears imaginable to hear the voice inside Santana's head.]

"I'm sure [Santana] is in the same place I am," K-Rod said. "We came here with the expectation to be part of something special, and that's what we're working on. I think we're going to do it.

"I don't regret coming here, and [Santana] doesn't either. We've had really tough moments in our career here, but we don't regret anything. I'm extremely happy to be here, and if you ask Johan that question he'll say the same thing."

In fact, Rodriguez said, Santana's happiness will manifest itself in a big way. "He's going to win the Cy Young this year," K-Rod predicted. "He's hungry, very hungry. He went down with that injury last year, so he's hungry to win."

Told about K-Rod's forecast, the two-time American League Cy Young Award winner wouldn't commit to his first in the National League.

"It's only two games," Santana said. "I'm going to compete, that's for sure. Time will tell."

He said his elbow is fine. But if another Mets season spirals out of his control, Santana will feel more pain in his heart than his arm.

He was all set to go to the Yankees, too. That's what everyone in baseball thought, Santana included. And just his luck, the Yankees decided to keep their kid pitchers and wait to pay CC Sabathia the following year.

[Ian can hear voices in heads, so he must hear thoughts that weren't stated aloud as well.]

Against all odds, the Mets landed him for Carlos Gomez, Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey, Deolis Guerra and a contract extension to die for. The Mets received a 72-hour negotiating window to do a deal with Santana; they wouldn't have made the trade with the Twins unless they signed the ace long-term.

Those 72 hours weren't enough. After Santana flew into town to join the talks, the Mets asked Minnesota to extend the window. Team and player were at a standoff over 5 million bucks. Finally they reached a 50-50 compromise. Santana decided he could win the championships in New York he couldn't win in Minnesota, and everyone knows the rest.

[Johan Santana: the first player to take the money to play somewhere. What a scoop.]

In 2008, after Santana pitched a three-hit shutout against Florida on short rest and on a torn meniscus, the Mets couldn't secure a playoff berth the following day. In 2009, before Santana left for elbow surgery, the Mets couldn't put a competent or relevant team on the field.

[When you run out of bad stuff to say 'bout the Mets, call them irrelevant. It makes it look like you've got a broader point when, in fact, you have nothing.]

In 2010, after the Mets failed to land a legitimate No. 2 starter to complement him, Santana helped his undermanned team fall to 2-4.

[So is this Santana's fault for pitching badly Sunday or the Mets' fault for rubbing off on him?]

"We have to stay positive," the ace said. "If we stay healthy, we've got a very good chance to do something."
Hope. Yes, the Mets always have hope.

But given their rich history of betraying expectations, you wouldn't have to play poker for a living to figure this out:

If he could give back that $2.5 million today, Johan Santana would surely cash out of Queens.

[Surely? Oh, absolutely. Ian O'Connor can hear the voices.]

Edgy DC
Apr 12 2010 05:28 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

I need to set my compuber to weed out any article with the adjective "Jeter-like."

Ceetar
Apr 12 2010 06:53 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

Did he just basically say the season was sunk because Santana lost yesterday?

OMG It's Colorado and St. Louis! We're, like, sunk dude. How could anyone ever beat those teams?

Edgy DC
Apr 12 2010 06:59 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

Colorado has a big edge in relevance.

Me gusto este oración:

The Mets couldn't afford to lose this Santana start against a wretched opponent, not when they were facing a six-game road trip featuring five games started by Mets not named Johan Santana.

Little did I know the season was in the balance.

metirish
Apr 12 2010 07:07 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

It's pure tripe , still , Gary Cohen in the booth yesterday was repeating the " Mets need to win games started by Santana/Mets can't afford to lose games started by Santana" line. It's just not a good way to go weather your a fan or team mate (Francouer basically admitted that they thought this was a gimme game) , or management. Santana is human after all.

Edgy DC
Apr 12 2010 07:16 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

Nobody's would argue that it wasn't a bad thing, or more distressing than other losses.

But to argue that it represented another lost year --- or six lost years plus an option for Santana --- is to ouwardly display that baleful forsaking of even a hint perspective that represents a columnist's shirking of his duty.

Look, we all have access to the facts. And we, without a doubt, all have opinions. There is arguably no real purpose to columnists except to provide perspective. If you have no regard for that, it's pretty easy for me to cross you off the list.

If Francouer thinks yesterday's game --- or any game --- is a gimme, he could use a few wakeup slaps. It's the major leagues.

metirish
Apr 12 2010 07:28 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

Screw O'Connor , the guy probably couldn't wait to write this column about the Mets , he acts like a little horny dog when he's around yankees , trying to hump their legs.


FWIW here is what Fancoeur said


Jeff Francoeur acknowledged as much, practically admitting the players all but assumed an easy day because of the Santana-Hernandez matchup on the mound, the two-time Cy Young winner vs. the ageless soft-tosser whom the Mets released last season.

"I think this was one of those games, looking at Santana vs. Livo, we felt comfortable," Francoeur said. "We've seen Livo, we've played with him, faced him, we felt like we could score some runs.

"And whenever you have a guy like Johan on the mound you almost take it for granted what he's going to do. To be honest, when they scored those four runs in the first inning, for me it was like a shock."

Francoeur also said he thought the early runs allowed Hernandez to change his approach, which may or may not have contributed to the Mets' woeful day at the plate.

"You know him forever, he's going to throw pooh up there and get you to swing at everything," said Francoeur. "Today he kind of attacked the zone on us early, and we didn't do a good job of adjusting to that. It's disappointing."



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z0ktN1SCwb

Gwreck
Apr 12 2010 08:12 AM
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Have no problem with Francoeur (2-3 and a walk) saying as much but I'd have liked to hear from someone who wasn't trying as hard.

Edgy DC
Apr 12 2010 08:39 AM
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And killing someone at the plate.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 12 2010 08:48 AM
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If O'Connor indeed has these sorts of powers, he should move to some windswept farm somewhere near Dr. Andrews in Birmingham. He can talk to pitchers in their secret languages, write about the results, and Redford-- or maybe Matt Damon!-- can play him in the movie.

Bullstink aside... he's far from the only Cassandra in the chorus.

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 12 2010 08:42 PM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

Turnabout is fair play. Let's get inside Ian O'Connor's head.

Sure, it's dangerous to get into the mind of a Yankee hack. But I'm going in....

Probing...probing....there! I'm in!

Jeter.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Pinstripes sure are slimming for C.C.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Not that slimming.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Joba was framed!
Jeter.
Joba.
Jeter.
No way he'd drink and drive.
Jeter.
Yankee magic TWENTY SEVEN WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Jeter.
Jeter.
If Mom lets me get a dog, I'd name it Jeter. Or Chris Chambliss.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Oh-oh. There's that security guard who tried to throw me out of Memorial Park for kissing the Babe Ruth plaque. Ass-wipe. Probably a Mets fan. It's not like I was tonguing the Bambino. We just needed some luck for the Sox series.
"Mets suck, you ass-wipe. Casey was a Yankee first!"
Run!
That was a good one.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Jeter.
I can see A-Rod as a centaur. Still doesn't make him a True Yankee.
Jeter.
Jeter.
If I get a tattoo, it would be a No. 2 right over my heart.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Jeter.
ROLL CALL! A-ROD! JETER! CANO! TEX-SOMETHING! THE GUY WHO REPLACED DAMON!
Sometimes I wish we had names on the back of the jerseys.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Oh, sweet. That guy put MANTLE 7 on the back of his jersey. That must have set him back a couple bucks.
Jeter.
Jeter.
David Wight would never dive into the stands. Mets suck.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Where do the Mets get off even playing in New York? This is a Yankee town.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Bob Klapisch is freaking brilliant!
Jeter.
Jeter.
Maybe if I wrote a column kicking the pathetic Mets, Bob Klapisch would read it and we'd be friends and I'd buy him a beer and he'd introduce me to Derek Jeter and we'd all sit around and be friends and I'd show him my dog Chris Chambliss and he'd do tricks and Derek Jeter would think I'm cool and his lawyer would ask the judge to throw out that restraining order.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Can't believe Santana didn't admit that he hates being a Met. No duh. Nobody would want to play for the Mets.
Jeter.
Jeter.


Phew! I have to get out of there.

Fman99
Apr 13 2010 04:23 AM
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I think it must be more like an episode of "Yo Gabba Gabba" in O'Connor's head, childish and intolerable to all but the smallest and simplest minds.

metirish
Apr 13 2010 07:00 AM
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That was freaking brilliant.

Edgy DC
Apr 14 2010 11:50 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Turnabout is fair play. Let's get inside Ian O'Connor's head.

Sure, it's dangerous to get into the mind of a Yankee hack. But I'm going in....

Probing...probing....there! I'm in!

Jeter.
Jeter.
Jeter.
Pinstripes sure are slimming for C.C.
Jeter. ...


Wow, dead on.

metirish
Apr 14 2010 11:58 AM
Re: Ian O'Connor Inside Johan Santana's Mind

WOW, just wow...

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 14 2010 12:07 PM
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Santana is probably wishing that the Twins had traded him to Beirut!

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 14 2010 12:30 PM
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Damn! Guess I can read these Yankee hacks like a book!