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Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14
| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 07:50 AM |
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I fear no losing streak
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 07:53 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 07:57 AM |
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I was 6 seconds from starting this. Good thing I checked. I have full cahn-fidence in Dickshot's...er, Lunchbucket's IGT-starting, losing-streak-busting abilities.
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| metirish Apr 14 2010 07:55 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Can't go wrong with two Jons can we?
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 08:00 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Irish threw down the challenge, I had to take it.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 14 2010 08:42 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Enough of this bullshit. If I'm going to stay up past my bedtime it damn well better be worth it. Jon Neise will use all of the awesome power of his protruding, prominent, powerful, paramount, persuasive, potent, preeminent, prevailing proboscis to cock-block the Roxx.
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| soupcan Apr 14 2010 08:48 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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You forgot 'parrot-like'.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:49 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Indeed, Monky-- when in doubt, trust your Nose.
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| Swan Swan H Apr 14 2010 08:52 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="soupcan":3lffouu2]You forgot 'parrot-like'.[/quote:3lffouu2] His nose is pining for the fjords.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 08:52 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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| soupcan Apr 14 2010 08:57 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I think I know the answer to this - who was the team waiting for coming in to score in that pic...?
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:59 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Blastro, right? I love how-- in the middle of a joyous walk-off celebration that's got even Maine pumped-- Heilman's still got the smelling-fresh-urine-in-the-subway-station look on that punim.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 14 2010 09:00 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="soupcan"]I think I know the answer to this - who was the team waiting for coming in to score in that pic...? |
| soupcan Apr 14 2010 09:01 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Blastro, right? I love how-- in the middle of a joyous walk-off celebration that's got even Maine pumped-- Heilman's still got the smelling-fresh-urine-in-the-subway-station look on that punim. |
| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:02 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Green, I think. I'm embarassed that I'm not sure who the two guys on the left are. After them, I've got guessing after them, I've got Delgado, Reyes, Beltran, ??, Wright, Perez, Maine, Lo Duca.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:04 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Oh, duh, Julio Franco on the left.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 14 2010 09:04 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Isn't that Endy next to Delgado's right (our left)?
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 09:05 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Carlos Gomez between Beltran and Wright Franco on the far left, and I think, Ruben Gotay (??) next to him.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:05 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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The left side guys are Franco and Gotay. That pic seems like so long ago.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:10 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Yeah, that could be Gotay. It actually looks a little like young Willie.
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| metirish Apr 14 2010 09:18 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 09:19 AM |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Blastro, right? I love how-- in the middle of a joyous walk-off celebration that's got even Maine pumped-- Heilman's still got the smelling-fresh-urine-in-the-subway-station look on that punim. |
| Gwreck Apr 14 2010 09:19 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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This game: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/6600/f14_t6697.shtml
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| Gwreck Apr 14 2010 09:25 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="metirish":3vzwzzo2]This is when they all shaved their heads right?[/quote:3vzwzzo2] About a month and a half later (hence the partial growth). Head shaving happened on a road trip in San Francisco (?) I think.
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| Ashie62 Apr 14 2010 09:53 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="metirish":2klnyvm0]Can't go wrong with two Jons can we?[/quote:2klnyvm0] Only if three people need to crap
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| G-Fafif Apr 14 2010 02:11 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Niese & Desist this losing streak.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 02:43 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Then, simply...
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| bmfc1 Apr 14 2010 04:50 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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METS: Jose Reyes, SS Luis Castillo, 2B David Wright, 3B Jason Bay, LF Mike Jacobs, 1B Jeff Francoeur, RF Rod Barajas, C Angel Pagan, CF Jon Niese, LHP Rockies: S.Smith lf Fowler cf Helton 1b Tulowitzki ss Spilborghs rf Stewart 3b Ianetta c Barmes 2b Cook p AdamRubinESPN Jerry says Reyes should bat third in St. Louis.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 06:20 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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IGT Mojo Gods are testing me here. Cable's out!
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 14 2010 06:23 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Old skool FM receiver for JCL. I'm taping the game, so I'm out of here, kids. Get us a win NOW!!!
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 06:40 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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MLB.TV didn't cut away from the broadcast during the first minute of commercials before first pitch: Keith: "He sparkles!" Gary: "1...2...3...4...5" Keith: "12345" What does it all mean? The conspiracy thickens.
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| bmfc1 Apr 14 2010 06:43 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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When I got out of the train station tonight, a guy was standing there wearing a Mets cap. It's not a usual sight in the DC area. I'm taking it as a good omen.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 06:45 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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rally time. r2 on, 0 out
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| seawolf17 Apr 14 2010 06:48 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Turned on the game, saw runners on base from the overhead shot, assumed that we were already in the bottom of the inning.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 06:55 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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RISP for fuck's sake. It's bringin' me down.
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| seawolf17 Apr 14 2010 06:57 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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That was fucking obnoxious, Seth Smith.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 07:00 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Instant karma.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 07:02 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Smith is now on my shit list. Nice play, Jacobs.
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| seawolf17 Apr 14 2010 07:03 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Nice play by Jacobs on the reverse DP. Reyes should have slapped the tag hard on Seth Smith's head.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 07:04 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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KABOOM FRENCHY!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 07:05 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 07:19 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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A couple of singles and a double get the run back for the Rox, but Niese pitches his way out of a jam.
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| seawolf17 Apr 14 2010 07:23 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Jose Reyes, apparently hit by a falling piano on the way down the line, somehow fails to beat out a grounder in the hole. Nice play by Troy Tulowitzki.
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| bmfc1 Apr 14 2010 07:27 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Note to SNY: maybe live interviews while the game is going on is a bad idea.
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| themetfairy Apr 14 2010 07:29 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 07:31 PM |
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[quote="bmfc1":39ljuyr2]Note to SNY: maybe live interviews while the game is going on is a bad idea.[/quote:39ljuyr2] Usually Burkhardt is good about breaking away from interviews for thinks like Wright's 2-run Kaboom, but he was interviewing Pelfrey in some concrete bunker or something. 3-1 good guys!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 07:30 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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David Wright chop. Thass sassifying.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 07:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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geez... get a lead... give it right back...
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| themetfairy Apr 14 2010 07:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Crap - a long ball makes it 4-3 Rockies.
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| Fman99 Apr 14 2010 07:45 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Still no local Mets coverage... I'm gonna go punch a Mormon right in their tabernacle.
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 08:03 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Cook comes home to score as the Mets fuck up again, this time throwing to 2nd without looking him back at 3rd
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 08:04 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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more shitty execution...
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| bmfc1 Apr 14 2010 08:04 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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That pisses me off more than the 3-run homer. They gave away a run.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:05 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Jacobs makes the kind of error that only a seasoned professional shitty first baseman makes. 5-3. Niese gets the next guy, so... that was unnecessary. Good thing the team's hitting so well with men on; otherwise, we might be in trouble here.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 14 2010 08:06 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I know that it sometimes just seems this way when you're not playing well, but are we going to get a call in our favor this year? Tonight there's been two close calls at 2nd and we haven't gotten either of them. One cost a run directly, the other maybe prevented from building one.
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 08:11 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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there was a game, i think the extra inning one but not sure, where i remember commenting that the umpires were giving us everything
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:15 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Nymr83":1iqf070h]there was a game, i think the extra inning one but not sure, where i remember commenting that the umpires were giving us everything[/quote:1iqf070h] It was that one-- mainly, the home plate calls and the balk.
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| Kong76 Apr 14 2010 08:24 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Keith going on about having to stare at some girl not realizing they were on the air.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:25 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Four pitch walk to Jacobs? A nice omen. A little patience here, and the Mets could nudge the wheels off the Cook wagon.
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| Fman99 Apr 14 2010 08:28 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Ooooo 2 leadoff walks! Go get em Rod
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| Fman99 Apr 14 2010 08:29 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Or, you know, pop up. Whatever you think is best.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 14 2010 08:30 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I suppose the pop-out is better than hitting into a DP.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:33 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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And there ya are, Jinxie.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 08:33 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Pagan obliges MGIM.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 14 2010 08:34 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Unless freaking Angel hits into a DP so we have the pitcher leading off the next inning. Cook walks the first two guys and Angel is up there swinging at every pitch.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:36 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Through two games, their pitchers are outslugging our cleanup guy. By a lot.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 14 2010 08:38 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Yeah what's that, like 3 XBHs for their pitchers in the last six ABs?
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 08:44 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Valdes impresses.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 14 2010 08:45 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="TransMonk":1ck767v8]Valdes impresses.[/quote:1ck767v8] Big time. I like him. Can he start?
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 08:46 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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With all due respect, STFD, Mr. Helton. If you please. And stand the f*ck up, Mr. Valdes.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 08:55 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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make it stop
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 08:56 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Castillo get to second base and Wright strikes out. It's like clockwork for the Mets with RISP.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:00 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Oh, just siddown, Culo-witzki.
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| Ashie62 Apr 14 2010 09:12 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Jon Niese is in serious need of a nose job
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:12 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Howie Rose just described "Met pitcher Rafael Santana" as one of the many players from Venezuela. He sucks with runners on base also.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:16 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Why the fuck did Bay steal second? It cripples Mets hitters.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:18 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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RBI with RISP Barajas!
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 09:18 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Rod grips his bat and splatters a shot into left.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 09:21 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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New York Auto Giant Dot Com: Easy early leader for most irritating radio ad of 2010.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:21 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I didn't realize Barajas could hit balls that touch grass. That doesn't violate a contract clause?
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:22 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Hagin (I think) called him "Ron." Nice effort by Catalanotto to get off the schneid.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:34 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Alright...Rally time!
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:35 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Let's get it on. Let's get it tremendously on.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:39 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:41 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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WOW!
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:41 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Edgy DC":23lghxyr]Yeah, yeah, yeah.[/quote:23lghxyr] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:41 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 09:41 PM |
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just need a sac fly. crap.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:41 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Oh, poops.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Ten-Hut, Sargelet. Third base with nobody out. Now relax, visualize him at first, and swing away.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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WOW! CASTILLO HITS A FLY BALL FAR ENOUGH FOR SAC FLY!
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 09:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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come on reyes, you NEED contact there. Castillo gets it done!
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:42 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Luis Castillo, fly ball machine.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 14 2010 09:43 PM Re: Sack One |
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Oh great! GMJ steals second and advances to third on an error putting himself on third with no outs. Now that he's in scoring position all hope is lost. With that Reyes strikes out for the first out.
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:45 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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OK, on to the bottom of the ninth. This is still going to be real tough to pull out. And if I know Jerry, he's going to hold Rodriguez out of the game unless the Mets get the lead.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:46 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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and the pitcher is..... igarashi...
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 14 2010 09:46 PM Re: Sack One |
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Thankfully, Castillo refused to follow the script and brought Matthews home with the tying run.
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:46 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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No walk offs, please.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:48 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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'Yota hitting 95 on the gun hisself, twice. Gassy.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:48 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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WHEW!!!!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:49 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Tulo looks very tempted to complain to the umps about their calling the out.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:50 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Lovin the gas.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 14 2010 09:52 PM Re: Sack One |
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What? You mean this isn't the IGT? How embarrassing. This is what happens when you blow off most of spring training and take a break from posting. I guess I need to post on the Bisons board for a while until I find my game again.
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 09:53 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Igarashi! what bullpen problem?
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 09:53 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Free baseball!
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 09:55 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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All hail Swallows Man
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:55 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Actually, "Gas" is a good nickname for him.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 09:57 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Stewart plays defense like its a foreign language he doesn't speak.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 09:59 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 09:59 PM |
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wow. that was closer to being out than tulo's fly...and on a broken bat....
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 09:59 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Tell me Jacobs ran hard. P'ease.
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 10:00 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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he walked/jogged to first. he wasnt making third anyway, but it would be nice to see some effort.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:03 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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pinch run in the middle of an at bat???? eh?
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:03 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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hit weakly enough for a play only at 1st... let's see what cora can do...
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 10:04 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2010 10:06 PM |
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why is tatis wasted as a pinch runner there? use oliver perez instead of wasting your last hitter! (blanco doesnt count and cora is now batting) edit- or run with Cora and hit with Tatis, either way dumb move by jerry
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 10:06 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Well, they probably also look at him as a defensive improvement.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:06 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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geez. had to waste tatis so that now, there's a pitching change... keeping me up later in the night.
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| Ashie62 Apr 14 2010 10:07 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Francisco up in the pen. I hoping he doesn't impersonate Armando Benitez
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 10:07 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Edgy DC":rbk1mp7q]Well, they probably also look at him as a defensive improvement.[/quote:rbk1mp7q] yeah i didnt fully explain myself there, you can use tatis to pinch-hit next instead of Cora, and then leave tatis in the game with the pitcher going to the pinch-runner's spot (i'd use perez to save cora on the bench, but using cora as the PR is fine)
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 10:08 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Let's Go Cora
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| Frayed Knot Apr 14 2010 10:09 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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And I wouldn't want to depend on a pitcher out there as my go-ahead run - especially Ollie
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2010 10:10 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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shitfuck
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 10:11 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Frayed Knot":3euiem3u]And I wouldn't want to depend on a pitcher out there as my go-ahead run - especially Ollie[/quote:3euiem3u] You'd rather rely on Cora to hit over Tatis?
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| Gwreck Apr 14 2010 10:12 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Maine is also a fine choice as a pinch runner. Using Tatis there was a poor choice. Jacobs loafed it all the way, and turned it on a little bit to ensure he made second. Totally unacceptable, even if chances of a triple were pretty slim.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:12 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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the more retarded thing is manuel waiting until after an intentional walk, and then 4 more pitches to barajas before he actually makes a switch to tatis. switch him immediately, or don't do it at all... was he taking a dump during that time that he couldn't make the switch?
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:13 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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great, now throw the 20year old in... let's see how this goes.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 14 2010 10:14 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1c1wsrmn][quote="Frayed Knot":1c1wsrmn]And I wouldn't want to depend on a pitcher out there as my go-ahead run - especially Ollie[/quote:1c1wsrmn] You'd rather rely on Cora to hit over Tatis?[/quote:1c1wsrmn] Well at the time you weren't even sure you were going to get to that point and I'd hate to lose a run because Jacobs was running. By the time that AB did come up all you needed was a single and Cora's almost as good a bet to get that as Tatis.
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:14 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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yeah.... real smart sending meija up...
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| TransMonk Apr 14 2010 10:14 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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FUCK!
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| attgig Apr 14 2010 10:15 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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FACK
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| Frayed Knot Apr 14 2010 10:15 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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And now none of it matters
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 10:16 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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yeah fuck. can we send Mejia down now to work on a changeup or whatever instead of asking a 20-year old kid to come in and pitch for once a week in the 10th inning with no margin for error?
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 14 2010 10:19 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Fartstink.
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| Ashie62 Apr 14 2010 10:30 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Ojeda is doing the Debbie Downer routine on SNY
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| Edgy DC Apr 14 2010 10:34 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Nymr83":2pj2lvff]yeah fuck. can we send Mejia down now to work on a changeup or whatever instead of asking a 20-year old kid to come in and pitch for once a week in the 10th inning with no margin for error?[/quote:2pj2lvff] Well, none of those magical eighth inning hold assignments are materializing.
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| Nymr83 Apr 14 2010 10:38 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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less magical but ultimately better for development 6 inning starts are available every 5th day in Buffalo... i just feel like he's going to get buried and not pitch often enough up here. the mets should send him down and bring him up either when they are ready to start him or when they actually need his help in the bullpen (which looks fine right now)
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| smg58 Apr 15 2010 05:26 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Frayed Knot":1y5uz0q1][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1y5uz0q1][quote="Frayed Knot":1y5uz0q1]And I wouldn't want to depend on a pitcher out there as my go-ahead run - especially Ollie[/quote:1y5uz0q1] You'd rather rely on Cora to hit over Tatis?[/quote:1y5uz0q1] Well at the time you weren't even sure you were going to get to that point and I'd hate to lose a run because Jacobs was running. By the time that AB did come up all you needed was a single and Cora's almost as good a bet to get that as Tatis.[/quote:1y5uz0q1] So basically we pinch-hit with the better runner and pinch-ran with the better hitter?
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 06:14 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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So why was Mejia pitching the 10th instead of Rodriguez? I suspect it was because Jerry was holding Frankie back until he had a "save situation," as if the potential 11th or 12th inning was more important than the actual 10th inning. Maybe that's one reason (certainly not the main one, though) that home teams win more extra-inning games. The home team can't possibly have a save, so the manager is freed from managing around that stupid statistic. The sooner they replace Jerry with a smart guy, the better. But I'm afraid they'll just replace him with another mediocrity.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 06:17 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I more than suspect it.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 06:19 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Yeah. Me too.
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| bmfc1 Apr 15 2010 06:47 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I think that you're exactly right, BG. Jerry--and to be fair, other managers would have done the same thing (which doesn't make it right)--wanted to save Rodriguez for a save situation. The problem, of course, is that you are anticipating something that might never happen while a sudden death situation is actually happening so you need to use your best players to keep the game going.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 15 2010 10:44 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Kong76"]Keith going on about having to stare at some girl not realizing they were on the air. |
| Centerfield Apr 15 2010 11:19 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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A few things... Tatis for Jacobs: There is no way rational way I can see to defend this move. A manager with even the slightest bit of thinking can anticipate that the matchup there is either Tatis against the righthander or Cora against the lefthander. Over the past three years, Tatis has an OPS of .807 against righties. Cora is at .621 against lefties. This is a no-brainer. I don't know if Cora is faster than Tatis (he has more stolen bases but I don't know that this means anything), but he is at least not any worse, and certainly not enough to justify the difference at the plate. Whatever the logic, there is absolutely no way to defend making this move four pitches into the at-bat. If it was the right move, it should have been made at the beginning (or, more accurately, not at all). It was so dumb, Tracy was caught completely off-guard by it. He had to warm up his lefty quickly as if saying "Really? Did he just make that move? Am I missing something? Get me my lefty." Jacobs Jogging: In an extra-inning game, less than two outs, there is absolutely no excuse for not running hard. That ball could have caromed any number of different ways. There is no way to know out of the box that he had no chance at third. If enough was not made of the Wright incident, it needs to be made now. It's bad enough the team sucks. The least they could do is try. Nothing is worse than suck-ass lazy players. Mejia over Rodriguez: I'm not going to kill Jerry on this one, since no other manager goes against this book either, but I wish people would look at the logic behind this thinking. If you are in a pennant race, deep into the season, and you are protecting your closer from overuse, I think it makes sense not to burn your closer in a game where you may never have the lead. I can see the logic in not wanting to burn your closer on a game you can still lose, and then possibly not have him in a save situation later on. None of this applies here. Rodriguez hasn't been used, we are not in a pennant race, and using him last night would not have prevented him from pitching any future games. Let's face it, this team isn't going to get that many chances. It's interesting that Manuel probably knows he's got very little rope, likely wants to manage to win every single game, but doesn't really know how to do it.
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| metirish Apr 15 2010 11:24 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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The thing that gets me about holding back Rodriguez is that Manuel used him in non save games this season "because I'm committed to getting him more work".
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 11:25 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Centerfield":1v2rx7rt]It's interesting that Manuel probably knows he's got very little rope, likely wants to manage to win every single game, but doesn't really know how to do it.[/quote:1v2rx7rt] Really. The onslaught of injuries last year gave Jerry a convenient alibi for the losing, but it was apparent (to us, anyway) that he's not really any good. I'm ready for the next guy.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 11:52 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Centerfield"]A few things... Tatis for Jacobs: ... Jacobs Jogging: ... Mejia over Rodriguez: ... |
| Centerfield Apr 15 2010 12:13 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Sure, the Jacobs-Tatis thing is x's and o's, but Jacobs loafing is supposed to be Jerry's strength. I'm with you on the other options though. For me, it's Bobby V or bust.
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| attgig Apr 15 2010 12:15 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Centerfield":qynipqsd]Whatever the logic, there is absolutely no way to defend making this move four pitches into the at-bat. If it was the right move, it should have been made at the beginning (or, more accurately, not at all). It was so dumb, Tracy was caught completely off-guard by it. He had to warm up his lefty quickly as if saying "Really? Did he just make that move? Am I missing something? Get me my lefty." [/quote:qynipqsd] actually a total of 8 pitches. there was the intentional walk to francoeur first. he had many many pitches to think over what he was going to do. of course, it took him 8 pitches to make the wrong move....
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| soupcan Apr 15 2010 12:16 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Centerfield":1a90vnto]Sure, the Jacobs-Tatis thing is x's and o's, but Jacobs loafing is supposed to be Jerry's strength. I'm with you on the other options though. For me, it's Bobby V or bust.[/quote:1a90vnto] How would you guys feel about Bobby V. as GM and Wally Backman as manager?
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 12:18 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="Centerfield":1ouko3hl]For me, it's Bobby V or bust.[/quote:1ouko3hl] Bobby would be great, but I'm sure there are others out there that would also be great choices. I don't know who they are, and we won't know for sure (for a while) if we've gotten one of them. I also don't have a whole lot of faith that the Mets will hire the right guy, unless they do it by accident.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 12:20 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Frack Backman. I used to wear six back in the day to honor him, but he clearly has a personality disorder. I'd probably rather see Oberkfell.
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| metirish Apr 15 2010 12:20 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="soupcan":1jy2j1yx][quote="Centerfield":1jy2j1yx]Sure, the Jacobs-Tatis thing is x's and o's, but Jacobs loafing is supposed to be Jerry's strength. I'm with you on the other options though. For me, it's Bobby V or bust.[/quote:1jy2j1yx] How would you guys feel about Bobby V. as GM and Wally Backman as manager?[/quote:1jy2j1yx] I kinda like it but I get a feeling that Bobby would rather in the dugout , and if things didn't work with Wally the best canidate will always be Valentine.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 12:21 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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There are certainly some cases of GMs suiting up and moving down to the dugout --- Bobby Cox and Jack McKeon to name two. Lou Pinella probably did it at least one of the tiimes the Yankees hired him.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 12:22 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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You know, you might get a good year out of Wally, but then his insanity will kick in and he'll go down in flames and take the season with him. I too would prefer Oberkfell. Or Teufel. Or Melvin. Or any number of other people.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2010 12:25 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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I think the writers are all on board with Bob Melvin. The Mets in retrospect really screwed up by re-hiring Jerry after 2008: Of course, they should also have fired Omar at that point: At least then, he'd done more the screw up the thing than Jerry had. I don't see how Omar ought to survive the next managerial whackage.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 15 2010 12:30 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 15 2010 12:32 PM |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think the writers are all on board with Bob Melvin. |
| The Mets in retrospect really screwed up by re-hiring Jerry after 2008: Of course, they should also have fired Omar at that point: At least then, he'd done more the screw up the thing than Jerry had. |
| soupcan Apr 15 2010 12:30 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":27cyawbv]I don't see how Omar ought to survive the next managerial whackage.[/quote:27cyawbv] He better not and I don't think he will. I just see Bobby V. as maybe embracing the GM role as another challenge. Backman strikes me as a sparkplug kinda manger and I could see those those two personalities working well together (as much as I actually know about their personalities of course...).
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 12:31 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Has a team ever fired a GM and a manager simultaneously and in-season? (I suppose it's been done, I just can't recall any examples offhand.) I guess the way to do it, if you're going to do it, is to get your GM lined up and have him pick his manager in advance of the announcement. How you do that, and keep it out of the tweets, is another story.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2010 12:33 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="soupcan":rl7amioq]I just see Bobby V. as maybe embracing the GM role as another challenge. Backman strikes me as a sparkplug kinda manger and I could see those those two personalities working well together (as much as I actually know about their personalities of course...).[/quote:rl7amioq] Really? I think it would be a circus followed by a disaster.
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| soupcan Apr 15 2010 12:43 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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The reality is, none of us know who would work well with who. For all we know, Bobby and Wally go way back and are chummy chum chums. Or they hate the living shit out each other. I love Bobby and I have fond memories of Wally who has had managerial success. I know one thing - When Omar does ultimately get the axe, his press conference is going to be must see TV and must listen-to radio. "You know, no doubtaboutit, there was failings that we,um, failed to process and, you know, that is something that Fred and Jeff wanted to not do and Jerry was the right guy who didn't know that - you know- what we needed to um, do, and you know that these times come and you know that when you take these types of jobs you will get fired but I have no regrets and this is a good team and injuries and you know...." Oh, it's gonna be painful.
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| TransMonk Apr 15 2010 12:44 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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No more painful than this mess of a team he created.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2010 12:47 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Yeah, well, you see, the one thing that might give me pause when pulling the trigger on Omar is that he'd be leaving with a good-looking few prospects that another GM might well squander. But you never know. Phillips was whacked just as Reyes and Wright hit the horizon.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 12:54 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think the writers are all on board with Bob Melvin. |
| The Mets in retrospect really screwed up by re-hiring Jerry after 2008: Of course, they should also have fired Omar at that point: At least then, he'd done more the screw up the thing than Jerry had. |
| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2010 01:18 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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Really? I think Omar was a fool for not doing anything beyond Ayala to solidify the bullpen while it melted down in 08; and then, only after Wagner just delivered painful proof that Brand Name closers aren't worth the commitments they invariably get, Omar spends many more millions on K-Rod AND trades five guys for another Big Name closer, thinking somehow that solved the issues.
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| Edgy DC Apr 15 2010 01:25 PM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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The shuffling of the reliever chairs after the season certainly didn't solve anything, and some of his worst trades involve the relievers he's traded and the releivers he's acquired. I attribute that meltdown to bullpen management, a skill at which Jerry frustrates me even more than Willie, if that's possible. We had a meltdown of the bullpen under both managers, with different whipping boys. This psychotic need to find guys magic roles to fit into the magic formula is doomed to fail and Jerry's fingers are all over it. Note how much energy was expended this winter and spring on finding and identifying the guy to pitch the eighth inning and set up all of Rodriguez's saves, a situation that hasn't yet come up.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 19 2010 10:26 AM Re: Mets @ Rockies IGT 4-14 |
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While farting around with the News archives, I found this little bit of rationalization fun. [quote="Andy Martini-BarHaberdashery"]NUMBERS DON'T LIE If Manuel's decision Wednesday night to use Fernando Tatis as a pinch-runner and Alex Cora as a pinch-hitter in the 10th inning seemed curious, statistics and history backed him up: Cora is simply a better pinch-hitter. In 88 pinch-hit at-bats, Cora has 25 hits and one home run, for a .291 average. Tatis is 19-for-79 (.241), with two homers. |
