Apr 18 2010 02:16 PM
Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds
Maine needs to step up with a long outing tonight.
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IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds
| Kong76 Apr 18 2010 11:31 AM |
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I'll likely not be watching tonight, but noticed we needed an IGT for the rubber game. My head's still spinning from yesterday's game.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 01:05 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine needs to step up with a strong outing tonight. Let's Go Mets!!!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 02:16 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine needs to step up with a long outing tonight.
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| bmfc1 Apr 18 2010 02:42 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2010 02:52 PM |
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Rubin: Mike Jacobs has been designated for assignment to make room for Tobi Stoner. Rubin: The Ike Davis era may begin this week. Murphy isn't ready. And after the Mets get through today with Stoner, they'll need a 1b.
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| bmfc1 Apr 18 2010 02:49 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2010 03:58 PM |
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METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P Cardinals: 1.Schumaker 2. Ludwick 3. Pujols 4. Holliday 5.Rasmus 6. Molina 7. Freese 8. Ryan 9. Wainwright Molina again? Doesn't the SOB deserve a game off?
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| MFS62 Apr 18 2010 03:07 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="bmfc1":20k7auwy]Rubin: Mike Jacobs has been designated for assignment to make room for Tobi Stoner. Rubin: The Ike Davis era may begin this week. Murphy isn't ready. And after the Mets get through today with Stoner, they'll need a 1b.[/quote:20k7auwy] Nick Evans wasn't in the B-Mets lineup today. Maybe he's moving up to Buffalo to replace whoever (Davis or Carter) will be called up to replace Jacobs. Or maybe not. If they add Stoner and replace Jacobs, they'd still have to send someone else down. I'm not sure when Murph's DL stint is over. I didn't get a warm, fuzzy feeling seeing Frankie the Cat in the cleanup spot playing first in that lineup above. Later
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| bmfc1 Apr 18 2010 03:13 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Couldn't they have simply sent down Valdes? Nothing against him, but he's not pitching tonight so they could have sent him back to Buffalo and called up Stoner (didn't the Mets once have a stoner?). Ike went to 2 for 5 today. .364, 2 HR, 4 RBI. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... pid=477195
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 03:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2010 03:49 PM |
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edit: I suck and I'm late. btw, this was Wolfie's thread to start.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 03:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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That's a pretty sad looking line up the Mets are trotting out there for tonight's game. Hop0efully, the Cardinals will be resting some of their regulars too after last night's marathon.
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| Chad Ochoseis Apr 18 2010 03:57 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="EdgyDC"](didn't the Mets once have a stoner?) |
| MFS62 Apr 18 2010 03:59 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="bmfc1":1g7bgtmm]Couldn't they have simply sent down Valdes? Nothing against him, but he's not pitching tonight so they could have sent him back to Buffalo and called up Stoner (didn't the Mets once have a stoner?). http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... pid=477195[/quote:1g7bgtmm] Yes, its the same Tobi Stoner who pitched for the Mets last year. If they send down Valdes, they can't recall him for 10 days unless a pitcher gets injured/ put on the DL (wink, wink). And Jerry likes to have another lefty option in the pen with Feliciano having the flu(?) this week. Later
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| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 04:04 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="MFS62":3scior4q]If they send down Valdes, they can't recall him for 10 days unless a pitcher gets injured/ put on the DL (wink, wink). And Jerry likes to have another lefty option in the pen with Feliciano having the flu(?) this week.[/quote:3scior4q] Valdes was the third lefty. Takahashi is also a LHP.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 04:27 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="Gwreck":1ldunus6][quote="MFS62":1ldunus6]If they send down Valdes, they can't recall him for 10 days unless a pitcher gets injured/ put on the DL (wink, wink). And Jerry likes to have another lefty option in the pen with Feliciano having the flu(?) this week.[/quote:1ldunus6] Valdes was the third lefty. Takahashi is also a LHP.[/quote:1ldunus6] Takahashi's a lefty changeup/screwball specialist; because of how they work to batters-- middle-in to lefties, middle-outside to righties-- those guys tend to be more effective against righties, and have slight reverse splits, if any (see: Johan). Valdes is more of a trad tough-on-lefties guy.
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| TransMonk Apr 18 2010 05:13 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I'm looking forward to tonight's game. I think it will be a big test. If they can leave St. Louis having taken 2 out of 3 to a team that should have no problem winning their division, I can start to forgive the crappy, lazy play I've seen over the first 2 weeks. I may have to start believing in that runs-scored vs. run-against stat and take it to mean that the Mets may be better than their record indicates and they may start to get those seemingly elusive breaks and start to play like winners. Obviously, if they continue to look like clowns tonight, they will be perceived as clowns to the national TV audience tonight. I hope all the talk from Maine this week wasn't just lip service. I hope he knows his job is on the line as it should be. I really want this one.
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| dgwphotography Apr 18 2010 05:24 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="bmfc1"]METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P |
| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 05:28 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Perhaps Jerry's been catching up on his soaps during the games and-- going by the name-- simply thinks he's a big Italo-Spaniard.
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| HahnSolo Apr 18 2010 05:36 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="dgwphotography"][quote="bmfc1"]METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P |
| Valadius Apr 18 2010 05:53 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I think the Jerry Manuel Managing Unit needs a reboot.
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| Valadius Apr 18 2010 06:04 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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God, I hate Joe Morgan: "The Mets are off to a slow start, so they had to get a win last night"
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 06:08 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I don't mean to be a toolchest, but hearing complaints about Joe Morgan sucking has now surpassed Joe Morgan among things that suck to hear.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 06:18 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="HahnSolo"][quote="dgwphotography"][quote="bmfc1"]METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P |
| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 06:26 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Ryan Ludwick, you've been Frenched.
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| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 06:27 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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How to listen to tonight's game: ESPN (video) WFAN (audio) -- NOT on terrestrial radio, but through MLB.com's Gameday audio. The sync (for me at least) is perfect.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 06:30 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="HahnSolo"][quote="dgwphotography"][quote="bmfc1"]METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P |
| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 06:35 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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This lineup's so screwy that the bottom might be stronger than the top. Works out well this inning with Pagan (batting 8th) up with the bases loaded. Let's see what he does here.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 06:36 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="HahnSolo"][quote="dgwphotography"][quote="bmfc1"]METS: Reyes SS Cora 2B Wright 3B Catalanatto 1B Francoeur RF Matthews CF Barajas C Pagan LF Maine, P |
| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 06:37 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Jerry Manuel: Super Genius
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| Ashie62 Apr 18 2010 06:38 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Wow, the Cardinals are imitating the 2009 Mets
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 06:38 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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That was cool! Kinda like a triple!
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 06:41 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Pagan's base-running blunders are so much more inept with each passing game, that they've gotten to the point that the opposition is now too confused to capitalize on his mistakes.
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| TheOldMole Apr 18 2010 06:44 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Cards the ones suffering from 20 inning whiplash?
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 06:56 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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So far so good. 3-0 Good guys after 2.
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| MFS62 Apr 18 2010 07:05 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="Rockin' Doc":1b7glzwj]So far so good. 3-0 Good guys after 2.[/quote:1b7glzwj] This just in: Nine Las Vegas casinos file for bankruptcy. Later
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 07:17 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine is at 73 pitches through 3 innings. He's going to need a quick 1-2-3 inning soon if he's going to go at least 6 innings. The pen could use some rest. Let's get some more runs against Wainwright.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine is not inspiring confidence. But he's still got a shutout....
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| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 07:33 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Same old Maine. 99 pitches in 4 innings. Seriously, John?
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 07:38 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine has not been economical or efficient, but he has effectively kepth the Cardinals from scoring. Unfortunately, the Mets will be fortunate if he can get them through the fifth inning. Then it will be up to the freshly called up Stoner and the rest of the fatigued bullpen that deserves some rest.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Wright just got Beltraned.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine needs a breaking ball to get more swings and misses. Santana can get away with throwing mostly fastball and change ups, but even he has a slider he mixes in at times. John Maine can't be effective on a consistent basis with just the two pitches.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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If there was a drinking game for each time they either mentioned or showed video of the Beltran K, we'd be somewhat buzzed by now.
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| smg58 Apr 18 2010 07:46 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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That's not the first time this year that I've seen Wright bail on a high curve that wound up breaking into the strike zone. Hojo needs to get on him for that.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 07:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Aw heck.
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| bmfc1 Apr 18 2010 07:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Is the Dillon Gee era approaching?
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| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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In addition to being a bad example and bad for your health, John, you look like a total tool with that jaw full of tobacco when trying to pitch. Spit it out and concentrate dammit.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 07:51 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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What a surprise. I had a sense of forboding doom. Maine had been dancing through the minefield all night. I just had a feeling that bomb was coming.
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| Nymr83 Apr 18 2010 07:56 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Maine sucks. I just got out of my car at 3-0 and turned the TV on at 3-3, wtf??
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| PiggiesTomatoes Apr 18 2010 07:58 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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This team is just difficult to watch. Coupled with having to listen to Dumb and Dumber (I'll give Orel a pass) and it's boardering on insufferable.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:00 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Jose's really getting some to some balls. Too bad he can't get the throws yet.
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| Fman99 Apr 18 2010 08:10 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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400 foot fly for Poo holes, Stoner gets through the 6th. Let's Go Mets!
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:10 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Take that, Albert! Tobi Freaking Stoner's not afraid of you!
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| Frayed Knot Apr 18 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Good thing they've kept Albert off the bases this series (1 hit ... so far) cuz that's the 5th time they've walked Ludwick in front of him in 3 games. Talk about playing with fire.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:12 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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OK, hold on. I don't want to digress too much, but that Hampton Inn ad just freaked me out. You mean hotels DON'T wash the sheets between guests? All these years I assumed those were clean sheets and they were not?
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| Fman99 Apr 18 2010 08:17 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="metsguyinmichigan":1gumok4k]OK, hold on. I don't want to digress too much, but that Hampton Inn ad just freaked me out. You mean hotels DON'T wash the sheets between guests? All these years I assumed those were clean sheets and they were not?[/quote:1gumok4k] I stay at the Hampton Inn when I travel for work. Free breakfasts and comfortable beds. Having said that, I wouldn't want to be the next guy to use the towels that were in my room.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 18 2010 08:20 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I don't like the direction this game is taking.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 08:22 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="Frayed Knot":3iksmsxd]I don't like the direction this game is taking.[/quote:3iksmsxd] It's a long way down the Holliday Road.
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| metirish Apr 18 2010 08:29 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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WOW, Reyes looked like s tit in that AB
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| Gwreck Apr 18 2010 08:36 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Yadier Molina actually steps out and kisses his necklace before every pitch. Seriously. I knew I hated the guy but wow.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 08:38 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Sure he just gave up a double to the opposing pitcher but nice job Stoner.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 08:39 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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FUN FACT: Opposing pitchers have hit six XBH this road trip. Jason Bay has hit none.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:40 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Some beer points for Stoner for sure!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 08:40 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2010 08:42 PM |
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[quote="Gwreck":2w0o7yq5]Yadier Molina actually steps out and kisses his necklace before every pitch. Seriously. I knew I hated the guy but wow.[/quote:2w0o7yq5] In said necklace: a tiny bit of powdered Heilman testicle. Y'know, as a souvenir.
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| Fman99 Apr 18 2010 08:42 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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That Sharp commercial with Sulu gaying it up never ceases to make me giggle. OH MY!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 08:46 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Jerry finds the most creative ways to "save" his bullpen arms.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 08:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Go Jerry Go
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Aw heck. One pitch.
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| metirish Apr 18 2010 08:48 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Night, thanks Jerry.
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| metsguyinmichigan Apr 18 2010 08:50 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Stoner would get tagged with the loss, too. Right?
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| metirish Apr 18 2010 08:51 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="metsguyinmichigan":2f1xgdri]Stoner would get tagged with the loss, too. Right?[/quote:2f1xgdri] But we know who really gets the loss.
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| Fman99 Apr 18 2010 08:51 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Overmanaging. Why take out Feliciano after he gets his first guy out? Dumb.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 08:53 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Real dumb. We need a runner and a Bay PH HR.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 08:55 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I didn;t realize Bay was ever in. Well at least they didn't suffer long.
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| Edgy DC Apr 18 2010 08:55 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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The goal was one game of three, right?
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| Fman99 Apr 18 2010 08:56 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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I hate Adam Wainwright, the Cardinals, and people who wear red shirts.
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| metirish Apr 18 2010 08:57 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2010 08:58 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2twqy2tg]I didn;t realize Bay was ever in. Well at least they didn't suffer long.[/quote:2twqy2tg] I thought that was the whole idea of the Igarashi move there-- the double-switch to make sure the pitcher's slot didn't come up in the ninth. And yeah, I realize how stupid that sounds. But... well... it's like guessing to where your slow beagle wandered off-- you have to think like a slow beagle.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 08:58 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Well, at least Omar is satisfied with this series.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 09:03 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Well ... this is a crappy team as currently constituted, without Reyes and Beltran. And to the extent that Reyes is back, he's back only in the technical sense. The Mets need Reyes and Beltran back and playing like All-Stars.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2010 09:06 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Let's get on Omar for his deeds, but we don't have to be the forum that deliberately interprets his remarks verbatim. We all know what he didn't mean.
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 18 2010 09:16 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1xoqrjgo]Let's get on Omar for his deeds, but we don't have to be the forum that deliberately interprets his remarks verbatim. We all know what he didn't mean.[/quote:1xoqrjgo] Just venting my frustration with the team. For whatever reason, I am having a hard time getting fired up this year. The team's slow start and Manuel's hard to comprehend managerial moves aren't helping my increasingly lackadaisical mood regarding the Mets.
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| Ashie62 Apr 18 2010 10:07 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Regarding Jerry Manual I believe the clock is ticking and he cannot be saved. it is what it is.
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| batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2010 10:10 PM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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We're two games behind the Nationals and Strasburg hasn't even been promoted to the Majors yet.
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| soupcan Apr 19 2010 07:31 AM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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That game sucked. Once Maine had 2,000 pitches by the 3rd inning you knew they were toast. As bad as the Mets are looking early on, the Cardinals sure as hell didn't impress me I'll tell you that.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 19 2010 07:33 AM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Yeah, Soupy, I agree. In fact, and maybe this is encouraging from the right perspective, I haven't been impressed with the opposition in any of the four series the Mets have played so far. They all look like shit, the Mets included.
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| metirish Apr 19 2010 07:36 AM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Yep , Mets could have won two games here , maybe even three....we've seen some terrible baseball so far.
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| Edgy DC Apr 19 2010 07:42 AM Re: IGT 04/18 - Mets at Redbirds |
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Could have certainly won three.
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