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metirish
Apr 16 2010 09:51 AM

Michael Kay blasts SNY for taking in booth calls during game seven of the season. I'l admit to tuning out when they took calls , I thought it was pointless , someone in the IGT remarked on it too.

Anyway here is Neil Best


SNY 'disappointed' in rival Kay's critique





Michael Kay often has compared his dual role as YES' lead play-by-play man and 1050 ESPN's lead talk-show host to walking a tightrope.

On Wednesday, he did a somersault off it, without benefit of a net.

In a colorful radio rant, Kay ripped SNY for taking calls from viewers in the eighth inning of the Mets' lopsided loss Tuesday night in Denver, saying he was "flabbergasted'' and calling it "absolutely unconscionable'' and a gimmick YES never would use - "ever!''

"This is game seven,'' he said. "If it was game 145 and they are 30 games out and you want to juggle balls in the air and blow up balloons and make plastic animals out of them, I guess I understand. You're giving up in game seven by taking phone calls?''

Oh, my. If this had come from anyone else on 1050 or WFAN, it would have been run-of-the-mill sports talk venting. But Kay is no ordinary host, which was why SNY fired back.

"Calls to the booth is something we introduced in 2008,'' spokesman Andrew Fegyveresi said, "and our fans enjoy the unfiltered interaction, just as they enjoy the unfiltered and honest approach from our broadcast team.

"For a colleague who works for a crosstown rival to publicly question our integrity without first trying to find the truth is disappointing.''

That last sentence referred to Kay and co-host Don La Greca speculating that the calls might be plants, based on the assumption SNY never would risk putting random callers on live TV.

(Fegyveresi said callers were put on a five-second delay.)

It also was based on their assertion that the Mets might have tried to send a message through callers.

"Is the Met organization trying to . . . get their point across without [announcers] saying it and saying, 'Well, look how angry the fans are?' '' Kay said, acknowledging it was a "conspiracy theory.''

Questioning SNY's motives is thorny ground for Kay, given the network's mostly solid track record for independence and the Yankees' occasional lapses into a more, um, hands-on approach with YES.

But Kay rejected that notion in an e-mail Thursday, writing, "I hope they're not intimating that the YES broadcast is filtered and dishonest, because that is a ridiculous statement.''

Did YES have a problem with Kay's radio comments?

"Michael wears two different hats,'' spokesman Eric Handler said. "In this case, he was expressing his opinion wearing the hat of the ESPN radio host.''

Kay wrote in another e-mail, "I was speaking as a member of the media, and I think they are selling their exceptional announcers short as well as giving up on their team in game seven.''

As to those who would question his objectivity, he wrote, "If any one crosses wires that that is why I said what I said, then they have a built-in bias against me and / or YES.

"Whatever. I said what I said and I stand by it as a radio host, broadcaster and the play-by-play voice of the Yankees on YES. Yes, all three agree with me.''

On his show, Kay profusely praised that night's SNY announcers, Gary Cohen ("He could call a 100-0 baseball game and make it interesting") and Keith Hernandez, but he said if injected with truth serum, "They're probably embarrassed to take those phone calls.''

He also said this:

"It's an admission by the people at SportsNet New York that the team stinks and nobody is going to tune in if we just show baseball, so we have to turn this into a circus act and take phone calls like a radio show.''

In fairness, SNY has taken calls during blowout victories as well as losses in the past. And surely there is room for a few diversions over 486 hours of regular-season baseball, isn't there?

(YES finally added in-game reports from Kimberly Jones this season after resisting for years.)

The Mets were trailing 11-3 when SNY opened it up for callers. Before doing so, Cohen cracked, "I think we should do it more. We could be talk show hosts in addition to doing the game.''

Said Hernandez: "There are too many talk shows now.''





Just a personnel observation about the booth. I prefer it when it's Gary, keith and Ron or just Gary and Ron but not so much just Gary and Keith. I think Ron makes Keith better.

G-Fafif
Apr 16 2010 10:03 AM
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This is not a word I use very often, but Kay is a wanker.

Ceetar
Apr 16 2010 10:06 AM
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"Calls to the booth is something we introduced in 2008,'' spokesman Andrew Fegyveresi said, "and our fans enjoy the unfiltered interaction, just as they enjoy the unfiltered and honest approach from our broadcast team.


I particularly like that one. Michael Kay's an idiot, and the show would be much better if they let Don laGreca speak more. (YES might be better, despite him, if they had a regular set of hosts.) He's not great, but at least he's a Mets fan (as is Bonnie) and a wee big more honest. (and there more since Kay misses half his own show anyway) And actually watches the games. Kay only watches the games that happen to be on when he's not working, which is rare, so he just feeds off the lame media buzz to get his 'news' anyway.

You'll notice I've listened a lot more to them, especially lately as they've had decent interviews and Francesa's talking NCAA a week after it's over, or 4 hours of horse racing or something.

HahnSolo
Apr 16 2010 10:10 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 16 2010 10:16 AM

I don't like the call to the booth gimmick. Emails and texts are fine.

Kay has a right in his role on 1050 to an opinion. And even though I agree about the gimmick, he comes across as a bit of a Yankee-fan jerk here.

I also don't get his assertion on "giving up". Taking calls from fans is giving up? Please 'splain.

ON EDIT: from the photo above, when did Kay become a doppelganger for Collin Montgomerie?

HahnSolo
Apr 16 2010 10:14 AM
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Ceetar wrote:

I particularly like that one. Michael Kay's an idiot, and the show would be much better if they let Don laGreca speak more. (YES might be better, despite him, if they had a regular set of hosts.) He's not great, but at least he's a Mets fan (as is Bonnie) and a wee big more honest. (and there more since Kay misses half his own show anyway) And actually watches the games. Kay only watches the games that happen to be on when he's not working, which is rare, so he just feeds off the lame media buzz to get his 'news' anyway.

You'll notice I've listened a lot more to them, especially lately as they've had decent interviews and Francesa's talking NCAA a week after it's over, or 4 hours of horse racing or something.


And therein lies the reason I listen to 1050 more than before...Francesa is probably better than Kay (imo) but Lagreca makes Kay's show much more listenable. Francesa could use a guy like LaGreca on his show, just for a change of pace. But since FAN's stable of hosts is laughably un-listenable, that guy is not there right now. Plus who's the guy in FAN with the cojones to tell Mike that he needs a right-hand man?

Ceetar
Apr 16 2010 10:25 AM
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Well Francesa does seem to take off most of the summer anyway. Just have someone there waiting for him when he gets back as his partner.

soupcan
Apr 16 2010 10:28 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
I don't like the call to the booth gimmick. Emails and texts are fine.

Kay has a right in his role on 1050 to an opinion. And even though I agree about the gimmick, he comes across as a bit of a Yankee-fan jerk here.

I also don't get his assertion on "giving up". Taking calls from fans is giving up? Please 'splain.


Ditto, ditto and ditto Molly.

Frayed Knot
Apr 16 2010 10:45 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
I don't like the call to the booth gimmick. Emails and texts are fine.


Not my favorite part either as my tolerance for idiot callers is low to begin with - but, what were there, like three of them?!?


Kay has a right in his role on 1050 to an opinion. And even though I agree about the gimmick, he comes across as a bit of a Yankee-fan jerk here.


This is my biggest complaint. He proclaims this a "gimmick" that YES would never stoop to even though YES not only put Kim Jones on for sideline stuff but rigged the post-game questioning of the manager so that she always got the first question, a question that was often fed to her by Yanqui head honchos specifically designed to make Torre look bad so as to grease the skids for his eventual departure!
But at least YES wouldn't damage their journalistic credibility by taking phone-calls.


I also don't get his assertion on "giving up". Taking calls from fans is giving up? Please 'splain.


Don't you understand that baseball is cumulative? Getting blown out in game 7 affects the remaining 155 games




from the photo above, when did Kay become a doppelganger for Collin Montgomerie?


Montgomerie, who is, in turn, a doppelganger for Mrs. Doubtfire.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 16 2010 11:00 AM
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After the splitting Sterling hangover I appear to have, I don't even want to get started with this piece of guy. I'll just second y'all, and point out that his stone-throwing wouldn't be nearly as problematic for me if he didn't live in a glass Patrona Towers over there at YES.

when did Kay become a doppelganger for Collin Montgomerie?


I hear "Michael Kay," I picture the actress who played the crazy-slutty prison guard from "Oz"/Alice in the new "Brady Bunch Movie," only less likable and doing commercials for CO detectors:



bmfc1
Apr 16 2010 11:07 AM
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A difference is that SNY, despite being partly owned by the Mets, is an all-sports station. YES is a MFY station (Exhibit A was cited by FK, above).

Another difference is that Mets fans can call and speak in complete sentences while MFY fans would call and blurt out "Red Sox suck!" "JETER!" and "27!" for the entire segment.

Kay's best attributes are LaGreca, Bernstein and the fact that he's not Francesa. I wish he would never talk about the Mets and would leave the room, turning over the show to his co-hosts. He embarrasses himself with his anti-Mets bias (he still decries the firing of Willie Randolph) but not to the extent of Francesa.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 16 2010 11:16 AM
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Kay's the worst. Absolutely terrified of the Mets. I only listen to him if/when Mike's doing horse racing or has some shitty guest, and I hate Mike.

I don't get the love for LaGreca here, and I'm surprised to learn he's a Mets fan (not that I listen too often). A real Met fan sidekick would call Kay on his bullshit more often. He's a disgrace.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 16 2010 11:32 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I don't get the love for LaGreca here, and I'm surprised to learn he's a Mets fan (not that I listen too often). A real Met fan sidekick would call Kay on his bullshit more often. He's a disgrace.


Same, but... well... Kay's the headliner. LaGreca calling him on his most egregious stuff-- and I've heard plenty, even as a non-listener-- would be like a parent on welfare mouthing off to her caseworker, wouldn't it? It's just not in his self-interest to do it too often.

Ceetar
Apr 16 2010 11:37 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I don't get the love for LaGreca here, and I'm surprised to learn he's a Mets fan (not that I listen too often). A real Met fan sidekick would call Kay on his bullshit more often. He's a disgrace.


Same, but... well... Kay's the headliner. LaGreca calling him on his most egregious stuff-- and I've heard plenty, even as a non-listener-- would be like a parent on welfare mouthing off to her caseworker, wouldn't it? It's just not in his self-interest to do it too often.


I think it's just that the shows seem almost listenable when Kay's not there. He doesn't really call him on anything, but he does often 'respectably' offer a different option, or thought, which Kay just shoots down and yells about, but at least he's probably watched the games and is borderline knowledgeable.

I mean, even Somers and Beningo seem to reach Mets-hating lows sometimes, and often have factually incorrect information.

Centerfield
Apr 16 2010 11:53 AM
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Kay's a douchebag.

Centerfield
Apr 16 2010 11:55 AM
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Which should not be misconstrued as to me not liking Michael Kay. I love him. Sterling too, and Waldman. And Hank. It makes the Yankees look like a douchebag organization and is great fodder for making fun of them. These guys are the Yankee equivalents of Tony Bernazard.

Centerfield
Apr 16 2010 11:57 AM
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And one more thing, I think that taking calls in the booth is a dumb move. I would think that Gary and Keith hate having to do it. So Michael is right about that. It's just annoying because douchebags are annoying even when they're right.

He's wrong about the giving up thing, and he's wrong about comparing SNY to YES. YES leads the league in douchebaggery.

Fman99
Apr 16 2010 07:54 PM
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Michael Kay is a fuckpickle.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 19 2010 02:38 PM
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At last night's New York Emmys, a certain, dashing member of the SNY team took home [url]another bronze girl to stare at.

46. ON-CAMERA TALENT: Sports Analyst
Keith Hernandez. May 7, 2009. (SNY).


SNY also took home four more (5 total, compared to YES' 3... and local 500-pound gorillas MSG's 15), including a broadcast that went better than the game itself...

50. LIVE SPORTS EVENT: Series
2009 Mets: The Inaugural Year of Citi Field. April 6, 2009. (SNY). Curt Gowdy, Jr., Executive Producer; Gregg Picker,
Producer; Bill Webb, Director; Dan Reagan, Tony Lanni, Contributing Directors; Dan Barr, Contributing Producer; Greg
Schult, Sam Pepper, Associate Producers; Bill Clarke, VP of Operations; Jean Palmer, Manager of Remote Operations;
Gary Cohen, Play-by-Play; Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Ralph Kiner, Analysts; Kevin Burkhardt, Reporter.


... and everyone's favorite viral ad of last season:

68. COMMERCIAL – Campaign
NY NY Sports Sports. May 4, 2009. (SNY). Marjorie Gantman, Senior Director of Marketing; Marie DeParis, VP of
Marketing; Debbie Kasher, Arturo Gigante, Creative Consultants; Wayne McClammy, Director; Cindy Becker, Executive
Producer; Josh Towvim, Editor.

seawolf17
Apr 19 2010 05:01 PM
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I hope I'm reading too deeply into that. Does that mean they nominated Keith specifically for this game? A 10-1 win usually means Keith is complaining about his commute and tossing lollipops into the crowd.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 23 2010 01:37 PM
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Holy shit-- Cyborg Kiner's Korner! YAY!

metirish
Aug 23 2010 01:41 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Holy shit-- Cyborg Kiner's Korner! YAY!



it will be must see online viewing...that's a mouth full


The guests on the SNY webisodes are Pete Rose, Bobby Valentine, Johnny Bench, Richie Ashburn, Ed Kranepool (a two-parter), Eric Davis, and Johnson and Tommy Lasorda (also in two parts). In a clip from the 1980s, Rose and Kiner discuss why Rose’s continuing to play would delay induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

metirish
Aug 23 2010 01:45 PM
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Not good


Nearly all the “Korners” are gone, tossed out or taped over at a time when few local stations, networks or teams understood the value of a video archive of their history and broadcasts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 23 2010 01:59 PM
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Hence the need for the Robocop/Frankenstein job:

... the first of nine weekly webisodes that combine clips from Kiner’s postgame interviews and new chats between him and the host Ted Berg for the Mets network’s dip into nostalgia.

metirish
Aug 29 2010 07:54 PM
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@SI_JonHeyman: keith henrnandez may be a better announcer than he was a ballplayer. he is THAT good.

His head wil be as big as Mr. Mets.

Ashie62
Aug 30 2010 11:19 AM
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metirish wrote:
@SI_JonHeyman: keith henrnandez may be a better announcer than he was a ballplayer. he is THAT good.

His head wil be as big as Mr. Mets.


or Gary Cohen's?