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Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Mex17 Apr 20 2010 04:18 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/rig ... 3WZBZ82XYM I still have my concerns over how this organization is managed, but I'm calling bullshit on this one. The kid had two hits and an RBI even despite the horror of having to take an afternoon flight from Buffalo to NY following batting practice. Nothing to see here, people. Although I do agree that Mejia is being botched.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2010 05:13 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Firstly, he's not their top position prospect. Secondly, I'm missing the dis-service.

bmfc1 Apr 20 2010 05:51 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

This is the passage that bothers me: "However, Mets general manager Omar Minaya told me he did not make his series of calls to get ownership's blessings, and to explain the plan to Jerry Manuel and others in the organization until yesterday morning." 1) This move was telegraphed late afternoon on Sunday when Jacobs was DFA'd rather than optioned to the minors, thus opening a spot on the 40-man roster. If blessings needed to be secured, and it needed to be explained to the manager, then one would think that it would have happened before the Jacobs maneuver was made. If the approval was not granted, then they could have simply sent down Jacobs. 2) Ownership has to approve it? Are you kidding? Maybe if it's Jerry Jones, owner/GM but not when you have an independent GM. This isn't a trade that impacts payroll, it's a baseball decision.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2010 05:55 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

A total pile of petty crap. Do the MFY's pay these hacks to come up with this shite. When the Mets start winning, and they will, I'd to jam these snarky attacks down these "journalists" throats So there buster!

metirish Apr 20 2010 06:39 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

It would seem reasonable to me that ownership has a say in how and when their prospects are called up.

Fman99 Apr 20 2010 06:45 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Joel Sherman is a penny eating retard.

Centerfield Apr 20 2010 07:18 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Agreed. This article is a complete garbage. Too many holes to even bother.

MFS62 Apr 20 2010 10:03 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Reading Joel Sherman reminds me of the old adage about putting an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2010 10:07 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

eh. I think Sherman is OK most nights, he screwed up this take. It's a sad day when Bill Madden has more nice things to say about the team than Sherman does.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2010 10:13 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

I love the Post editors taking a file photo and trying to drag it kicking and screaming into context. PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- maybe about rookie Ike Davis?

Fman99 Apr 20 2010 10:19 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

I love the Post editors taking a file photo and trying to drag it kicking and screaming into context. PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- maybe about rookie Ike Davis? I agree. I like the idea of changing it to my own stupid agenda. PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- maybe about getting a penile implant that is cucumber scented?

Centerfield Apr 20 2010 10:23 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

When did Omar turn into Sid Fernandez?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2010 10:26 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

What? Does Sid's penis smell like a cucumber?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2010 10:26 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Firstly, he's not their top position prospect. FernyMart? Oh, he gets hurt sometimes, and he fell that one time, after having struck out a bunch. He's a bust. Sherman is actually pretty decent; he's generally been more on-point with facts and more tempered in terms of expectation than 9/10 of the NY beatfolk (including the entirety of the Snooze, and most of his own paper, Vaccaro excepted). This, however, is a big pile of Bullfinch's Mythology. Although... "However, Mets general manager Omar Minaya told me he did not make his series of calls to get ownership's blessings, and to explain the plan to Jerry Manuel and others in the organization until yesterday morning." ... Ownership has to approve it? Are you kidding? Maybe if it's Jerry Jones, owner/GM but not when you have an independent GM. This isn't a trade that impacts payroll, it's a baseball decision. Although Sherman's specific characterization of the phonecall may be (and likely is) off, either the fact of his having to make such a call is true (and really disturbing), or this is a really potentially damaging untruth. I agree. I like the idea of changing it to my own stupid agenda. Ooh, ooh! PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- about how watching Ollie pitch gives him that not-so-fresh feeling, and whether that's normal?

Fman99 Apr 20 2010 10:30 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

I could play this game all damn day. PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- about how he once was aroused by a black and white photo of nine men trying to impregnate a state-fair-prize-winning watermelon.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2010 10:33 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

I have no problem with his keeping the ownership abreast of big decisions, nor with Ike Davis having taken batting practice at 11 AM.

metirish Apr 20 2010 10:35 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

One of the reasons why Buffalo was an attractive option over other cities was it's closeness to Flushing, a decision can be made at 11am and the player can be in the team that night......yet the Mets are still wrong.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2010 10:37 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

AyDAY. PHONING IT IN: Mets general manager Omar Minaya chats on his cell phone during spring training --- about how much of a queen bee-yotch Amber was after field hockey practice yesterday, when all she had to do was talk to him like a human being, f'reals.

bmfc1 Apr 20 2010 10:42 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Edgy DC wrote: I have no problem with his keeping the ownership abreast of big decisions, nor with Ike Davis having taken batting practice at 11 AM. "Keeping the ownership abreast" is different than "approval" which was what Sherman stated. Either way, it could have and should have been done within a short time frame and not taken from 5 PM Sunday until noon on Monday. Piniero said that the Mets didn't reply to him quick enough and others made similar complaints about the Mets actions this past winter. It comes across that the Mets have too many layers and are too bureaucratic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2010 11:00 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

bmfc1 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I have no problem with his keeping the ownership abreast of big decisions, nor with Ike Davis having taken batting practice at 11 AM. "Keeping the ownership abreast" is different than "approval" which was what Sherman stated. Either way, it could have and should have been done within a short time frame and not taken from 5 PM Sunday until noon on Monday. Piniero said that the Mets didn't reply to him quick enough and others made similar complaints about the Mets actions this past winter. It comes across that the Mets have too many layers and are too bureaucratic. This, sorta. Either Sherman has to do some serious apologizing, or the organization's management problems don't begin to be solved with an Omar firing. (I'd still bet it's the former, but... yipe.)

Edgy DC Apr 20 2010 11:01 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

bmfc1 wrote: "Keeping the ownership abreast" is different than "approval" which was what Sherman stated. Actually, he stated "blessings," which could mean anything and probably means nothing.

bmfc1 Apr 20 2010 11:09 AM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Not to get too lawyerly, but getting their "blessings" is the same as getting their approval. If, as suggested, it could mean anything, then it was a poor choice of words on his part (he could have said "Minaya waited to announce the move until he informed ownership"). I hope it was nothing more than an FYI but Sherman indicated otherwise.

Ceetar Apr 20 2010 12:13 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

bmfc1 wrote: Not to get too lawyerly, but getting their "blessings" is the same as getting their approval. If, as suggested, it could mean anything, then it was a poor choice of words on his part (he could have said "Minaya waited to announce the move until he informed ownership"). I hope it was nothing more than an FYI but Sherman indicated otherwise. Much like you're supposed to ask the woman's father for his blessing, it's almost always a given that he's going to give it and you're going to do it anyway.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2010 12:16 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Not to get too lawyerly, but getting their "blessings" is the same as getting their approval. If, as suggested, it could mean anything, then it was a poor choice of words on his part (he could have said "Minaya waited to announce the move until he informed ownership"). I hope it was nothing more than an FYI but Sherman indicated otherwise. Much like you're supposed to ask the woman's father for his blessing, it's almost always a given that he's going to give it and you're going to do it anyway. A given that a womans father will give his blessing? Ashie seems to have missed that part.

Ceetar Apr 20 2010 12:55 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Ashie62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Not to get too lawyerly, but getting their "blessings" is the same as getting their approval. If, as suggested, it could mean anything, then it was a poor choice of words on his part (he could have said "Minaya waited to announce the move until he informed ownership"). I hope it was nothing more than an FYI but Sherman indicated otherwise. Much like you're supposed to ask the woman's father for his blessing, it's almost always a given that he's going to give it and you're going to do it anyway. A given that a womans father will give his blessing? Ashie seems to have missed that part. Well, if you're asking to promote Mike Jacobs, say you'll be nice, play him at Catcher on odd days, that blessing might not be as automatic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2010 01:02 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Otherwise, really... you're just wasting his time.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2010 01:33 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

It's seems pretty clear that this was all teed up as the reason behind Davis' hitless debut, leaving Sherman forced to scrap together an alternative angle on last night's game, but it was easier and juicier to twist one into a shape that could fit.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2010 01:40 PM Re: Sherman bashing the handling of Davis

Does he even think that even the most panicky, or picnicky, or picketing, Mets fans are all tied up about Ike Davis right now? He's here, only a couple of weeks "late" (if you want to call it that) and he had a nice debut in a Mets victory. Things right now are sunnier than they've been for quite a while. Not to mention, the slight delay in calling him up is more likely to help the 2016 Mets than to hurt the 2010 Mets.