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What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island


One in a Million 1 votes

Rock You Up 0 votes

When I Look in Your Eyes 1 votes

What I Like About You 3 votes

Talking in Your Sleep 5 votes

First in Line 0 votes

Keep in Touch 0 votes

Tomboy 0 votes

Test of Time 0 votes

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 16 2010 06:09 AM

Stylish new wavey root rockers defined by one undeniably great rock record, but you have to ask yourself-- Haven't I lived by whole life hearing that same record over and over?

Consider that as you peruse the following selection of hits and near-misses ranging from bombastic 60s rock to schlocky pop to disco-crossovers from The Romantics, boufantted, red leather suit wearing Detroiters.

Remember, the song you choose accompanies you on a mix tape stranded on a desert island forever!

Choose among the below (sorry, vids were tough to come by) or write in!

One in a Million
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPP3278AIJU

Rock You Up
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkVlxZQwRVI

When I Look in Your Eyes
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_wl3lopquc
(Bonus: actual vid with bad sound but great shots of the spastic drummer):
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDBxC7_2j1U

What I Like About You
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvHKjDKY_O8

Talking in Your Sleep
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6f_ANMxjUQ

First in Line (cruddy vid, song starts at :30)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJa8mwQL7EQ
also here: [url]http://lala.com/zJPYY

Keep in Touch
non-vid version: [url]http://lala.com/zSoYY

Tomboy
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXLbCDz80fU

Test of Time
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfxdns2sSoM

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2010 06:30 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

The thing is that "What I Like About You" wasn't a big hit. It got MTV airplay and struck a nerve, but the record company wasn't ready for it and didn't have the record shipped or something.

They made it up to them by getting behind "Talking in Your Sleep," which was so aggressively marketed that it was a big smash, despite it (and I'm sorry, I know you disagree) having little to offer besides a pile of cliched lines and hooks. Two years later, America had all but forgotten "TiYS" but was still rocking out to "TWILAY" at their junior mixers and in the beer commercials.

None of which means I won't give each of these a meaningful and considered listen.

If I remember correctly, different TV appearances have different guys lip-synching "That's What I Like About You." The drummer sings it in the video, but the lispy guitarist did it on Bandstand and the blonde bassist on Solid Gold or something.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2010 06:33 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Here's Lispy (now Chinny) singing in 2007, but that may not mean he originally sang it, but rather that the singing drummer is just long gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDw9-MtdX7w

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 16 2010 08:57 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Yes, the drummer, who (I think) is great, bailed pretty early in the game when they started doing more pop stuff. He since formed a band called the Motor City Rockers which does more of that roots/rockabilly stuff he seemed to like more. They're like as lot of band that morphed stylistically as members came and went. The guitarist on the early records is the bass player in the later ones; the only constant has been lispy/chinny (aka Wally Palmar). He looks like a guy named Wally, doesn't he?

They made it up to them by getting behind "Talking in Your Sleep," which was so aggressively marketed that it was a big smash, despite it (and I'm sorry, I know you disagree) having little to offer besides a pile of cliched lines and hooks.


No need to apologize, reconsidering your pre-existing beliefs is what Desert Island Mix Tape is all about. This week's poll was inspired by my having come across "First in Line" then listening to that first album, which surprised me by rocking my cock off and showing me there was more where WILAY came from.

One in a Million
I'd completely forgotten this song ever existed when I started researching this poll. Nice big hook but, you know, forgettable

Rock You Up
Very Stray Cats, no?

When I Look In Your Eyes
Wham. This song is strong enough to lead off Side 1 on a record also including WILAY -- and very similar too, right down to the whispered vocals at the end. Dig it! Would radio stations just mix this one in for every five times they play What I Like...

What I Like About You
The other reason why I wanted to examine the Romantics was my curiousity over just what it is that makes this song go. I thought maybe the Hey! and handclaps and background singing, which are all terrific, but I think now it's Mike Skill's guitar. You're right this wasn't a hit when it was new. But I recall hearing it on the radio probably in 1981, knowing it wasn't new but sounding like the greatest song ever written. I think it was because I was in a convertible at night in a crowd and it was loud.

Talking in Your Sleep
In general I still like this -- it has a funky beat of those 80s disco-inspired songs a la "Get Started, Start a Fire" but right now I'm leaning toward the rockers.

First in Line, Keep in Touch
Both nice power pop tunes from the first album that I'd never heard until recently. The latter brings a gigantic hook.

Tomboy
The Romantics' second album cover looked like this:

And they were trying to mine a harder, 50s rockabilly sound. It's weird that this album as well as the next, "Strictly Personal," were total commercial failures predating the HUGE success of "In Heat". As far as I can tell, no recordings from "Strictly personal" exist on the Internet at all although some fans say it's their best.

Test of Time
Rotten. Only included here because I found a video of it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 16 2010 10:00 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

A few thoughts:

-- "Rock You Up" sounds more Smithereens-y to me. I may be off on that, though.

-- "When I Look Into Your Eyes" is like if they took the schematic for "WILAY," folded in a few parts, and flipped it over. It's, like, the SAME SONG.

-- I like the slinky backbeat of "Talking in Your Sleep" better than the melody line. It could have been a better 80s Stones song, maybe. (Fun side note: surprisingly useful for taunting preteen female relatives about crush objects.)

-- "First in Line" I could date for a little bit, and we'd have some fun, hamstring-popping weekends. But marry that? Hell no.

It has to be "WILAY," doesn't it? Plus, when it came on your iPod, it could either prod you to amuse yourself by pretending to be in a beer commercial, or-- if it were further down the road, and your mind weren't quite there anymore-- fuel a full-blown-dementia-enabling beer-commercial delusion, a lucid, schnauzer-and-bikini-team-filled dream to usher you gently into your sandy grave. CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!

metirish
Apr 16 2010 11:44 AM
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What I Like About You is just so ingrained in my head , I really don't like how he sings it....yoooooooooou.....their image and name spells them out as "New Wave" probably more than they actually were. ...I mean , The Romantics is a great name for a new wave band.

It's a tough poll bucket.

TransMonk
Apr 16 2010 12:28 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

OK, so here is my Romantics story. I apologize in advance to MGIM for any disparaging remarks or references I make to Detroit and/or Michigan.

Back in April of 1999 I was 24 and working a shitty job in a call center. I was doing ISP tech support back when a 56K modem was the standard and most normal people had an email address that likely ended in @aol.com. I was a regular on whatever Mets board we were on at the time…probably the MOFO as the board wars had not yet happened (or the grand-slam-single for that matter).

My band had just released our 3rd studio album. It was and still is my least favorite work we’ve done. The music and production was mostly unprepared and ham-fisted…but while the album sucked, we were honing our live playing skills which were becoming quite good.

We had taken a couple of road trips out east. Our first, in 1996, was to Toronto and back for a long weekend. In 1997 I recall one weekend where we did a “nothing but drive” tour: Chicago on Friday, New York on Saturday (most likely an early show & a late show), then Detroit on Sunday. Somehow, we were able to travel close to 2000 miles without missing any work. 1998 saw us take two weeks up and down the east coast.

By 1999 we were ready to try 21 days on the road and even incorporated a southern leg that included Texas, New Orleans and Atlanta before heading to the east coast. This was at a time when we were still four guys plus all of out gear stuffed into an Econoline van. We knew nothing of motel rooms. Luxury was sleeping on the cat-piss-stained hardwood floor of a local band or groupie. This was a tour that wrecked us all for a long time. It inspired us to invest in a short bus and to pre-reserve Motel 6 rooms for all subsequent tours.

By the time we got to Michigan, we were already two-thirds of the way through the tour. We had played 3 shows in Canada and crossed the boarder into Detroit. We had played Detroit a few times before, mostly at downtown bars like The Magic Stick and The Old Miami. If you’ve never been to Detroit, it is like nowhere I have ever been. I’ve been back since 1999, and it has improved, but back then I remember deserted city streets with steam pluming out of manholes. We would drive around and see parked cars on fire and blocks and blocks of houses that had been burned out and abandoned.

Somehow on this tour we had booked a show at a place called The Stone House. We had no idea what to expect…and nothing could have prepared us for what was to come. It is a biker bar inside a house surrounded by urban decay. Located approximately at Woodward Ave and 8 Mile Rd (remember that Eminem movie? Uh-huh) and evidently it stands there to this day.

We had arrived at the bar in the late afternoon. We parked on the street and walked up the steps to the porch on this strange Victorian beast. A big biker opened the door and asked us if it was our van on the street. Once we replied that it was, he hurriedly ran back into the house and grabbed a set of keys and told us to get it off the street before somebody took it. He directed us to the back of the house and locked the van in a fenced in pen with access to the back porch.

The kitchen to this house still serves as the kitchen, but the living room has been turned into a bar and bands play in the parlor. There is no stage…you play on the floor. The lady who was running the show was an old biker woman named Skitch. Apparently, it was somebody’s birthday, but when everyone has a biker name like Big Bear and Little Pete, it’s hard to remember exactly whose birthday it was.

By the time we played, the house was PACKED with people. We were literally playing to faces inches away from our own. It was actually a really fun show. When we were done, we were soaked in beer and sweat. We were followed by another band, The Immortal Winos of Soul who took over the reins of being loud and obnoxious. The drunken crowd loved them every bit as much as they loved us.

Because of the birthday celebration, hundreds of free Jell-O shots were being passed around. Being in the band, we got free beer and all of us proceeded to get pretty hammered. It was impossible to imagine, but the house held more and more people as the night went on. It got to the point where it was actually uncomfortable to move around…but the beer, Jell-O and mere spectacle of it all made it seem alright.

Around midnight, we noticed that at the end of the bar (in the living room) an entourage of people had converged. We asked Skitch about who was sitting over there and when she responded that it was the bass player for the Romantics (Rich Cole), we had to crash the entourage.

The corner of the bar was literally in a corner of the room. It was elevated as if for royalty and, even though you couldn’t catch a glimpse of him until you got closer, the man who sat there seemed to be treated like he was royalty around these parts. His hair was platinum blond, long and stringy. His eyes were sunken and his lips and fingers were yellowed by nicotine.

In order to talk to him we had to wait in a kind of line. Skitch later told us that he lived around the neighborhood and would come down at least once a week. Many of the bar’s patrons already knew him and were talking about good time past or mutual friends. Once we got to our turn, the look in his eyes told us he knew we were tourists just passing through.

We obviously asked about the Romantics. He said he didsn’t play with them anymore, but he was still in touch with them and was able to live off of the royalties. We asked if he was in any other bands. He said he was always working on projects. We asked why he hangs out at The Stone House. He said that they were the best people he had ever met.

Before long, it was obvious that he had had enough of us and we moved on. We drank more and more. The house slowly thinned out and we didn’t even notice when Rich left.
Our drummer found out why he was hitting it off so well with the ladies that night when they told him it would be $100 for them to spend the night with him. We slept at the Immortal Winos of Soul’s practice house, which was around the corner. Our guitar player got locked out and when he pounded on the door to be let back in, the rest of us had passed out and couldn’t hear him. He broke into a camper parked on the street and slept there for the night.

The next morning hit us like a freight train. Halfway still drunk and our heads pounding, we tried to navigate out of Detroit on to our next stop in Toledo. The Stone House still remains one of the strangest gigs I’ve ever been a part of. I’m glad I experienced it…but I never want to go back.

metirish
Apr 16 2010 12:36 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Great story , loved reading it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 16 2010 12:47 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Yeah, great story. The Romantics (like Steve Forbert, also signed to Nemperor in the early 80s) had a lengthy battle with the record company about getting paid for their stuff, I guess Rich eventually got his.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 16 2010 12:54 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Now that's a war story.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2010 01:31 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

You're all vampires. You've sucked all my writing ability and taken it for your own.

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 16 2010 01:54 PM
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Great story, Monk!!!!

And no offense taken. Detroit is a hellhole and an embarrassment to the rest of the state, which has to pay for all of its issues.

Jim Vallance, the songwriter, has a website -- that's the new AP style as of today, by the way. Used to be Web site. But I digress -- where he talks about different songs he's written and people he's written them with. It's actually pretty cool. Going from memory here, he said the Romantics brought him in to write with them and it got nasty quickly when the guys in the band accused him of ripping off one of their songs. Here's the link to all the songs, but I don't remember which has the Romantics story.[url]http://www.jimvallance.com/01-music-folder/pg-discography.html

Anyway, WILAY is a great song, but I really like TIYS. The echoy "You tell that you want me..." chorus is what gets me.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2010 02:15 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

While we're speaking of style (thanks for the tip), I'm going to nitpick about song parts. The "Tell me that you want me" passage isn't technically the chorus, but the "pre-chorus," also known (more imaginitively) as the "climb."

Including a climb is good songcraft --- and that's indeed the best part --- but they don't have a bridge and they have a two-line chorus looping upon itself. Boo.

Ashie62
Apr 17 2010 12:02 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1mos1qea]Yeah, great story. The Romantics (like Steve Forbert, also signed to Nemperor in the early 80s) had a lengthy battle with the record company about getting paid for their stuff, I guess Rich eventually got his.[/quote:1mos1qea]

Forbert is around. The usual places and the Stanhope House in NJ

cooby
Apr 17 2010 09:23 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Very cool story; I would have been scared to death there though.


Romantics were okay to listen to, but I'm sorry, I don't think I would choose any of their songs for my mix tape :(
So no vote from me

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2010 10:53 AM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

[quote="cooby":lqrw0uy0]Very cool story; I would have been scared to death there though.


Romantics were okay to listen to, but I'm sorry, I don't think I would choose any of their songs for my mix tape :(
So no vote from me[/quote:lqrw0uy0]

Yeah, the thing is, we're mixing a Romantics song on your tape if you want it or not: Those who don't vote not only get the "winning" song on their mix, but one of the "losing" songs as well.

cooby
Apr 17 2010 12:17 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Oooh nooooo!

Then I choose Talking in your Sleep. It's kinda cute.

Fman99
Apr 17 2010 12:55 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

I'm throwing the Romantics tape in the ocean. I'd rather listen to a monkey humping a coconut.

Edgy DC
Apr 17 2010 02:43 PM
Re: What I Like About Being Stranded on a Desert Island

Yeah, but all the other songs on your tape go with it. And you're stranded. And the humping monkey will get old.

And eventually you'll want to eat that coconut, but... yuck.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2010 06:49 AM
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Wow. "Talking in Your Sleep" is winning this and without my vote.