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Re: IGT Tuesday May 2 Mets/Phils
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IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils
| Fman99 May 01 2010 07:49 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 01 2010 08:15 PM |
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Johan vs. Jamie Moyer in primetime. LET'S
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| Willets Point May 01 2010 07:55 PM Re: IGT Tuesday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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| Rockin' Doc May 01 2010 08:28 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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| Ashie62 May 01 2010 08:32 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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And the beat goes on...Bring it home Fman
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| Rockin' Doc May 01 2010 08:38 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Fman has a tough act to follow.
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| metirish May 01 2010 08:52 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Rockin' Doc":2fhw8yeo]Fman has a tough act to follow.[/quote:2fhw8yeo] It sure is a tough act to follow, kudos to Ashie for a great run, a run that saved Jerry, yes, you saved him Ashie.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 05:15 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Rockin' Doc"] |
| Ceetar May 02 2010 12:05 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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So, do we think the 'regular' lineup today? I was in and out yesterday so didn't get to hear a lot of the tidbity stuff. Was Castillo rested cause he was hurting? Cause Jerry likes Cora's "experience" against Halladay? Because Castillo found Harry Potter's invisibility cloak? Sorta a big game today, kinda. Not so much because you don't want to lose to the Phillies and give anyone the idea that the Mets can't hang with them in the division or giving up first place, but I want to see how the offense/team responds to yesterday. Getting shut down by a good pitcher is nothing to be ashamed of, and hopefully they bounce back and resume their hot hitting as they've been doing. We've seen some signs of this in my opinion. They've faced some pitchers that did well, and then did wake up and hit the bullpen. Hopefully Jamie Moyer looks like me pitching out there after Halladay yesterday, and they clobber him. I'm looking forward to Miller and Morgan having to say nice things about the Mets.
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| Ceetar May 02 2010 01:01 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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NewYorkMets #Mets lineup tonight @ Philly: Matthews, Jr.-CF, Castillo-2B, Reyes-SS, Bay-LF, Wright-3B, Tatis-1B, Francoeur-RF, Barajas-C, Santana-LHP Sadly..I was right. We knew it was only a matter of time before Tatis got a start for Ike against "tough" lefty. and Matthews..you know..he's got that experience factor going for him. Leading off, he's a great table setter. As in, he should be bussing tables somewhere.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 01:20 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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The substitutes are probably both solid moves. Pagan's pretty hot, and I'd like to keep him in, but they've got to work Matthews in, and this may be the spot to do it. Frenchy probably doesn't like hitting behind Tatis, but that's not much to bitch about. I'd like to see Catillo hitting first, but it's not happening.
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| Ceetar May 02 2010 01:30 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Why because maybe GMJ can get a hit off the slow throwing Moyer? Tatis is 8/22 apparently off him, which I guess is okay, but rather either of these guys got their game against the Reds than the Phillies. I'd rather Castillo leading off too, in general, but it doesn't seem like something that will ever happen. GMJR is 7/23, 2HR but hasn't faced him in 4 years. Pagan is 1/6.
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| Ashie62 May 02 2010 03:13 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I am considering this the first "big" game of the year.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 03:36 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Ceetar":3bja37p2]Why because maybe GMJ can get a hit off the slow throwing Moyer? Tatis is 8/22 apparently off him, which I guess is okay, but rather either of these guys got their game against the Reds than the Phillies. I'd rather Castillo leading off too, in general, but it doesn't seem like something that will ever happen. GMJR is 7/23, 2HR but hasn't faced him in 4 years. Pagan is 1/6.[/quote:3bja37p2] Yeah, sure, why not? Those are good numbers. (I certainly think .363 is better than OK.) Sometimes, I think, managers like to throsw veteran guile against veteran guile. I certainly hear you about the Reds.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 03:48 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Guys with patience and a good sense of the strike zone will absolutely hammer Moyer. Pagan has little of the first, and not much of the latter. And, unfortunately, t'was a different (bigger, with more fast-twitch, presumably) Sargelet that did whatever damage he's got on his tab against Loopy. If we had a Castillo-type* bench OF, I'd start that guy over either of the two we've got. Since we don't, well... I'd rather grab the guy who covers more ground. *OE: As it turns out, Castillo was a decent choice-- even with his power, he's OPSing .919 against Ol' Man of the Mound over 30 career PAs, most in the last two years.
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| Ceetar May 02 2010 04:15 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I'd argue so far Ike seems to have more plate discipline than Tatis.
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| Chad Ochoseis May 02 2010 04:40 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Fun fact that I found out while doing oppo research (read "googling because I have work to do that I don't feel like doing") - Jamie Moyer is the son-in-law of ex-Notre Dame basketball coach Digger Phelps.
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| Gwreck May 02 2010 05:00 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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We don't "have" to work Matthews in, any more than we "have" to DFA him. I would have started Castillo leadoff.
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| TheOldMole May 02 2010 06:14 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I'm gonna borrow one of Elvis's old shotguns and shoot my TV the next time I hear someone start talking about what a number three hitter has to do.
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| TheOldMole May 02 2010 06:18 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 06:19 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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KABOOM!!!!! DWright!!!!! A thing of beauty.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 06:20 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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They're saying "BOOm," Dabid.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 06:21 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Fenchy was foul, but that was quite a blast, too. Good guys 3, Cheesepunks 0
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 06:27 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Dude. Johan. Come on.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 06:30 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Settle down, Johan.
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| TheOldMole May 02 2010 06:30 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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You don't expect that.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 06:33 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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OK, now let's get some more before Cholly rips Moyer out of there.
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 06:34 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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It's funny how the crowd sounds like they expect every Philly pop fly to go over the fence.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 06:35 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Yeah, well, a whole lot of Philly pop flies go over the fence.
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 06:36 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Kinda sorta what I meant lol
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 06:42 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Dude. Rod. Come on. (Of course, Hank would have stolen third.)
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 06:42 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I thought we agreed to not make baserunning errors any more. Hey, Rod Barajas. Johan Santana died to get your ass to second base.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 06:43 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Sargelet really should run here, no?
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 06:44 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Angel Pagan: "I don't see what he did wrong." (Actaully that's the Angel of 2009. He seems much better this year.)
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| batmagadanleadoff May 02 2010 06:52 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="TheOldMole":1htx4j3p]I'm gonna borrow one of Elvis's old shotguns and shoot my TV the next time I hear someone start talking about what a number three hitter has to do.[/quote:1htx4j3p] I was thinking the same thing. The feeling went away after I reminded myself that it was Joe Morgan doing the talking.
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 06:59 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Probably my imagination, but Reyes seems to lead off at least an inning or two per game since moving to the three hole so I don't get why they keep yappin' about it. Is it really that im- portant to be the first guy to bat for the Mets in the first? No.
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| metirish May 02 2010 07:03 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Cool stat from espn....the fathers of GMJ and Ike Davis both played with Moyer.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:11 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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KABOOOMMMMMM Rod!!!! Maybe we should have played him yesterday.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:12 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I ? the CBP foul pole.
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| Swan Swan H May 02 2010 07:13 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Rod bangs pole.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:16 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Swan Swan H":p6m59tvo]Rod bangs pole.[/quote:p6m59tvo] You've been hanging with Fman. :)
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:23 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Great play by Barajas, who I have to say was a great pick-up.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 07:24 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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C'mon, Johan.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:29 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Come on, Johan.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:30 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Moly.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:30 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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This is not vintage Johan here. He's going to be kicking himself for that walk.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Mercy.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Son of a....
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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PHWAM! Those five runs sucked ass.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 07:32 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Pitching around the #8 hitter may not have been the best idea, after all.
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| bmfc1 May 02 2010 07:33 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="metsguyinmichigan":3g6dd7jb]This is not vintage Johan here. He's going to be kicking himself for that walk.[/quote:3g6dd7jb] Not if we don't kick him first.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:33 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Phil-thy
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| batmagadanleadoff May 02 2010 07:34 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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This is the inning from
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 07:34 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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The sixth run wasn't much better.
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| PiggiesTomatoes May 02 2010 07:35 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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MF'er. I've been staying away while they've been on a roll but it seems fair to say, the roll am over. What the fuck?!?!
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:35 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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All he had to do was get past Jamie Freaking Moyer. Of course, in this bandbox, we can get all these back.
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| metirish May 02 2010 07:36 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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What a dump of a park.........five runs is nothing here boys
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| OlerudOwned May 02 2010 07:37 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Thaaaaat was unexpected.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 07:37 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 02 2010 07:41 PM |
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The park means jack, really-- it's all on Johan going all Ollie. They're beating on the sure thing in this rotation. This is a little nauseating.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:40 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Bah, believing in sure things is half what gets a team into this mess.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 07:40 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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It's like they're shell-shocked.
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| Kong76 May 02 2010 07:41 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I wonder what the record is for runs scored with two outs and/or how many batters get up with two outs is.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 07:42 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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This strand-rate is correcting a bit hard, isn't it?
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| PiggiesTomatoes May 02 2010 07:43 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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What are the odds of a 1-2-3 top of the 5th?
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:47 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Who you blame (besides Santana)? __ Rod Barajas, for making a stupid play and turning the mojo around. __ Fernando Tatis, for being in the lineup and making it seem like 2009. __ Jerry, for having so much faith in Johan that he left the guy hanging by himself. __ Warthan, for having so much faith in Johan that he left the guy hanging by himself. __ Kevin Deutch, for presenting before God and all people an image of the Metfan unworthy of any joy?
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:47 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="PiggiesTomatoes":1omv6eyw]What are the odds of a 1-2-3 top of the 5th?[/quote:1omv6eyw] I hate when we play "catch-up ball" by jumping at the first pitch.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 07:49 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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New York Auto Giant Dot Com! Coming back from the BE-HEST!
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| PiggiesTomatoes May 02 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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6 pitch 1-2-3 inning for the 47 year-old marvel! Seems like 2009 all over again.
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| metirish May 02 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC":3l1gh9sy]Who you blame (besides Santana)? __ Rod Barajas, for making a stupid play and turning the mojo around. __ Fernando Tatis, for being in the lineup and making it seem like 2009. __ Jerry, for having so much faith in Johan that he left the guy hanging by himself. __ Warthan, for having so much faith in Johan that he left the guy hanging by himself. __ Kevin Deutch, for presenting before God and all people an image of the Metfan unworthy of any joy?[/quote:3l1gh9sy] How about what Joe and Orel are talking about.....Santana not using a curve against the lefties is killing him.......my question is why doesn't he use a curve ball more anyway..(Joe wondered the same thing)
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| Frayed Knot May 02 2010 07:52 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I think we should just ban 4th innings. They've been our undoing this weekend.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 07:58 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC"]New York Auto Giant Dot Com! Coming back from the BE-HEST! |
| Kong76 May 02 2010 07:59 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I think seeing Moyer get to first and way things have gone I will respect my intention of giving myself a ten o'clock curfew and bid you all a let's go mets.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 08:06 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I blame the black jerseys. Good things don't happen in the black jerseys.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 08:08 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 02 2010 08:12 PM |
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[quote="metsguyinmichigan":2xy5paiu]I blame the black jerseys. Good things don't happen in the black jerseys.[/quote:2xy5paiu] Friday night was a blackout night. This stings a bit, yes. But Johan's been thwomped twice in five starts, and tiptoed around a LOT of runners in two others of those starts. I really don't want to think about why-- that's whence my real agita comes.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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That's a fair point. That sound you're hearing is the Jerry Watch re-assembling.
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| Frayed Knot May 02 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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ESPN used to only do that annoying crawl thing at the top and bottom of the hour - for maybe 7 or 8 minutes total - while saving the constant crawl for whatever lesser event they were showing on ESPN2 and the addicted gamblers who watch such stuff. Now they've either decided that everyone is an addicted gambler or that we've all got such short attention spans that a baseball game can't hold our interest unless we're simultaneously reading about who won the golf match on the Japanese tour or what Brett Favre had for breakfast because it's full-time on the main channel now.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2r146rhc][quote="metsguyinmichigan":2r146rhc]I blame the black jerseys. Good things don't happen in the black jerseys.[/quote:2r146rhc] Friday night was a blackout night.[/quote:2r146rhc] Wearing them twice in three days is temping fate.
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| Fman99 May 02 2010 08:12 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="metsguyinmichigan":2vp8fsqp][quote="Swan Swan H":2vp8fsqp]Rod bangs pole.[/quote:2vp8fsqp] You've been hanging with Fman. :)[/quote:2vp8fsqp] Nah, I would have gone with "Rod goes deep."
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| Ceetar May 02 2010 08:14 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Can I just blame everyone? sickening. I've been saying all along that Warthen always seems to go out a batter too late. (in this case, not at all) Santana sucked, but why? The warning sign to me was walking Castro. Make all the "pitching around" comments you will, but that's not really Santana's style, walking the 8th guy to get to the pitcher (and he's been bad against pitchers in general). Would Warthen coming out, talking to Santana, calming in down (telling him to trust Barajas' calls?), focusing on exactly what to throw at Moyer, gotten him out of the inning?
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:15 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Just taking a few steps toward coming back would mean a lot to me.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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OK, 4-6-3. Let's load 'em up.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:26 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Nothing. They're staggering on their feet. Howie is comparing them to George Foreman after Ali came off the ropes to counterpunch him senseless.
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| Fman99 May 02 2010 08:27 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC":mq8tfhyz]OK, 4-6-3. Let's load 'em up.[/quote:mq8tfhyz] Or, you know, roll over. Whatever works for you.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2010 08:31 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Hey, Santana! BBBBBoooOOOOOOOooOoOOOoOoOOoOoooOOooOOOooooO!
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| batmagadanleadoff May 02 2010 08:39 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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This might be the quickest 16-run game that I can remember.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:40 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Hey, a walk. First baserunner since THE INNING.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 08:41 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC":oxiedukh]Nothing. They're staggering on their feet. Howie is comparing them to George Foreman after Ali came off the ropes to counterpunch him senseless.[/quote:oxiedukh] Hey, Foreman came back-- it only took two years.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:43 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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"Hi, I'm Mike Rohan. I've been going around to give really stupid women a Ford Explorer for week. You can thank me later." "Oh, my GAWD!" "I like the ROOF!"
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:44 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":xu2i6rvt][quote="Edgy DC":xu2i6rvt]Nothing. They're staggering on their feet. Howie is comparing them to George Foreman after Ali came off the ropes to counterpunch him senseless.[/quote:xu2i6rvt] Hey, Foreman came back-- it only took two years.[/quote:xu2i6rvt] I thought it was more like 15 years.
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| batmagadanleadoff May 02 2010 08:49 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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The Phillies haven't scored since THE INNING, either.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:51 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC":1g0az1vp]The substitutes are probably both solid moves.[/quote:1g0az1vp] Or not.
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| Edgy DC May 02 2010 08:54 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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We swant 3-1 that inning and 2-0. Fine-able offenses.
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| metsguyinmichigan May 02 2010 08:55 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Let's go beat the hell out of the Reds.
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| Gwreck May 02 2010 08:58 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you?
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| batmagadanleadoff May 02 2010 09:07 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Gwreck":1jfpxwbr]What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you?[/quote:1jfpxwbr] A) There's nothing really wrong with Johan. He had a bad game. He'll move on and re-establish himself as the same old Cy Young caliber pitcher soon enough. B) He's damaged goods. Age, injuries and surgeries have taken their toll. He's 70-80% of what he used to be and he'll never again pitch as well as he pitched two or three years ago. C) He was pitching with hemorrhoids tonight.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2010 09:13 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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That was a really shitty performance by him for any reason. Rotten. About as bad as I can remember any pitcher turning in in recent years for or against the Mets.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 02 2010 09:23 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Gwreck"]What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you? |
| Ashie62 May 02 2010 09:32 PM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I went to this mess. It sucked. Johan had zilch. Bleech.
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| soupcan May 03 2010 07:46 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Johan Santana as per The New York Times"]“Tonight was different,” Santana said. “It was a crazy day.” Santana said he felt good and had no health problems before or during the game. “I felt pretty good,” he said. “I had a good warm-up, and I felt everything was fine. It was just one inning when everything went crazy and my fastball just went off and I wasn’t able to command it. That was about it." Santana was actually close to escaping the fourth-inning devastation with the Mets leading, 5-3. Utley, who had a double and a home run in the inning, was on second with two outs, and Santana got ahead 0-2 in the count on Raul Ibanez. Santana tried to throw a fastball away from Ibanez, but it tailed back over the plate and Ibanez hit a ground-ball single to right field that scored Utley. “That was the pitch that changed the whole inning,” Santana said. |
| Gwreck May 03 2010 08:03 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 03 2010 08:06 AM |
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[quote="Johan Santana":356ge912]“That was the pitch that changed the whole inning[/quote:356ge912] Hey idiot, NO IT WASN'T. You STILL had Casto, Ruiz and Moyer at the bottom of the order. Remember them? Not exactly world-beaters with the bats. You gave up a first-pitch single to Castro (ok). You then threw 4 pitches out of the strike zone to Carlos Ruiz (stupid). Then you went 2-0 and then 3-1 to MOYER! WHO HAD NO INTENTION OF EVEN SWINGING UNTIL THERE WERE 2 STRIKES! Take a few miles off and throw it down the middle dammit! The pitch that changed the whole inning was ball 4 to Moyer. And then -- you STILL HAD 2 OUTS and could've recovered in time to keep us in the game, but of course you didn't.
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| Frayed Knot May 03 2010 08:06 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Yeah, even after the 2-HR 1st inning I thought he was throwing pretty well. Neither was a perfect pitch but they weren't bad either and sometimes the hitter needs to get a little credit, especially if it's Howard and in a hitters' park. Santana then used a total of 16 pitches to dispatch the Phils in the 2nd & the 3rd. And the 4th didn't start badly either. OK Utley hit a solid double to lead off but that happens. Then Howard flied out and Werth barely hit that dribbler that Barajas made the nice play on and, as far as I was concerned, he was pretty much sailing along. The above article mentions the mis-placed pitch while he was ahead on Ibanez but it was still just a ground single and if Johan catches even a mini-break by having either that hit or the one that followed it go [u:1k8mqea0]TO[/u:1k8mqea0] an infielder instead of between them that inning's over with at worst one run. But he didn't ... and then the sky fell in.
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| smg58 May 03 2010 08:24 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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I thought Pelfrey had an unlucky inning, with a couple of bloops that were almost but not quite caught starting the cascade, but with an 0.67 ERA going into the game you could argue that bad luck was due to catch up with him anyway; oh well, move on, no worries. But Johan? Walking a 90-year-old pitcher with the bases loaded? That's so out-of-character you have to be concerned. Obviously I'm hoping he bounces right back with a solid start next outing, but until then I'm going to be a little bit anxious.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2010 08:28 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Coincided with one of the worst runs I'd had in weeks. I was beat up, loaded with cake and pizza, and sunburnt from a punishing weekend of kids birthday parties when I left on my regular run with the Mets up 3-2. I had zero butt/thigh strength, the humidity was intense, and I endured a stiff headwind for the first 2 miles, made bearable only as a result of Barajas' HR around mile 1. The Santana suck inning went on for the next 3 miles, over and back the Williamsburg Bridge, pure torture. I ripped off the headphones after the Mets went 1-2-3 in the fifth and straggled toward home, finally running out of gas completely nearly a mile away from home, way off pace and hating myself. FUCK YOU JOHAN! You made everyone around you suck!!!
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| Edgy DC May 03 2010 08:31 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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| Frayed Knot May 03 2010 08:34 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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The Barajas 4th inning HR was our last hit. Only a Bay walk kept it from being complete 1-2-3 x 5 suck-fest
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2010 08:40 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Speaking of shitty offenses, what are the alternatives to Gary Jr.? beep beep boop beep moop beep boop ... Hello? Is this Mr. Dye?
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| Edgy DC May 03 2010 08:45 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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Pridie and Feliciano are hitting in Buffalo. F-Bomb, not so much. Better than Matthews, of course.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2010 10:58 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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[quote="Edgy DC"]Pridie and Feliciano are hitting in Buffalo. F-Bomb, not so much. Better than Matthews, of course. |
| Frayed Knot May 03 2010 11:17 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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The whole idea behind Mathews was, that as long as Beltan is unavailable, they wanted a true CF who could play in case the 'rarely plays more than six weeks without hurting himself and who knows what the real player is anyway' Angel Pagan needed help. So until such time as the real CF is back, I don't think they're going to abandon GMJ for a PH/corner type like Dye or Stairs or whoever. Someone else who can actually play CF if needed on the other hand ...
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| batmagadanleadoff May 03 2010 11:17 AM Re: IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils |
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At least we're still getting the back pages.