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What do you do with Murphy?

metsguyinmichigan Apr 29 2010 10:23 AM

Say Murphy is ready to come back in a week or two -- and I'm sure they'll have him play in as many rehab games as they can. What do you do with him? As long as Davis keeps playing as he is -- which could change once the league gets a better look at him -- I can't see them sending him back to the Herd just because Murphy is ready. Does Murphy spell the end of the Cat? Cat can play in the field, and I'm pretty sure Murphy's not a utility kind of guy. Do you keep him on the bench as a pinch-hitter? Do they send Murphy to the Herd to learn how to be play second? Or play him there at first and say "Goodbye" to Jacobs? Trade him?

metirish Apr 29 2010 10:28 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Trade him?......he's got no value has he? Sit him on the bench and see what happens.

Gwreck Apr 29 2010 10:33 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

So long as Murphy > Frank Catalanotto, I guess that spot on the bench is his.

Edgy DC Apr 29 2010 10:41 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Yes, he has value, but the team may be able to find a trading partner just has he comes off the DL. I say demote him so he can practice playing the multiple positions that would prepare him for the role that would be the best current match for him. Call him up if a spot opens up, but until then, work-work-work. First, second, third, left, and right. Get a bunch of gloves, Daniel, and we hope to see you soon.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2010 10:55 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

DeRosa plays 7 positions, but plays none of them very well (and some of them in pretty ugly fashion). Oquendo was really only a good shortstop-- everything else, he played passably. As a fielder in general, Ty Wigginton-- and Mr. Mora, for that matter-- are great hitters. When people say things like "Murphy's not a utility guy," I wonder if they're nursing some strange, hagiographic distortion of how most utility guys really play defense (in a word: "shittyish"). If Murphy can get serviceable at second-- which is to say, Tatis-brand-serviceable, not pre-Flushing Roberto Alomar-brand-serviceable-- he'll be an invaluable bench resource (a 1B-2B-3B-LF-RF with an okay bat) at his pricetag for the next couple of years. (Consider again how much the team's paying Cora for his services*.) *I'm not crapping on Cora, Edge, just noting his price tag relative to what he offers.

Edgy DC Apr 29 2010 11:01 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Some guys are utility men who field, others are utility men who hit, and we should really use different terms for them because they're not the same beast. I think he's perfectly serviceable as Lenny Harris with younger legs, less girth, and more power. Matt Franco is a very good analog, but Murphy has more starting experience.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 29 2010 11:04 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: his services*.) *I'm not crapping on Cora, Edge, just noting his price tag relative to what he offers. It's okay to crap on Cora. Alex Cora sucks. (In Cora's defense, most backup infielders suck. That's why they're backup infielders.) Money aside, though, there's nothing wrong with having Cora provided he ain't getting more than 125-150 PA's per season.

attgig Apr 29 2010 11:07 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

No matter HOW Ike does before Murph comes back, Ike should stay exactly where he's at. even if he.... wait, I'm going to stop right there before I jinx the guy. Murph's also a left so don't even try to platoon them. If we can trade him, we should, perhaps package him up with ollie, and get a long man/reliever and send tak to the rotation. Or, he goes to AAA and works on 2b & SS so he can be a true utility guy.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2010 11:09 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I can't imagine that Perez + Murphy would bring back anything other than an overpaid guy who the other team doesn't want. Sure, Murphy sweetens it a bit, but I don't think enough to make much of a difference.

Edgy DC Apr 29 2010 11:16 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Murphy is never going to play shortstop unless there's a cholera outbreak, nor does he need to to justify a spot on the Mets bench.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2010 11:16 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

batmagadanleadoff wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: his services*.) *I'm not crapping on Cora, Edge, just noting his price tag relative to what he offers. It's okay to crap on Cora. Alex Cora sucks. (In Cora's defense, most backup infielders suck. That's why they're backup infielders.) Money aside, though, there's nothing wrong with having Cora provided he ain't getting more than 125-150 PA's per season. "I'm not crapping on Cora here, in this particular instance" might be clearer. Some guys are utility men who field, others are utility men who hit, and we should really use different terms for them because they're not the same beast. I think he's perfectly serviceable as Lenny Harris with younger legs, less girth, and more power. Matt Franco is a very good analog, but with more starting experience. "Utility bat" and "utility glove"(even if the latter sounds a little like a Home Depot clearance item)? But yeah, that's what I'm thinking. He's a half-decent-- north of Coratown/Jacobsville, south of BayRidge/Wrightburgh, right about at Francoeur Village-- bat that you can plug and play for short periods at 3-4 positions already (1B, 3B, LF-RF). He is a "utility guy." He could be a more useful utility guy if he learned 2B. (Given that he's playing "2B-style" 1B already, this should be workable, AFL disappointments notwithstanding; SS/CF, however, does seem like a bridge too far.)

metsguyinmichigan Apr 29 2010 11:17 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't imagine that Perez + Murphy would bring back anything other than an overpaid guy who the other team doesn't want. Kinda like Gary Matthews Jr. Wonder what sucker GM would take him off someone's hands. Oh, wait.... I'm pulling for Murph. Seems like a really good guy.

Edgy DC Apr 29 2010 11:18 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: SS/CF, however, does seem like a bridge too far. Catcher is right out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2010 11:22 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Can he fill out a lineup card, make pitching changes, and avoid calling for the bunt like it was a bodily function?

metsmarathon Apr 29 2010 12:12 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

i'd love to see murph get some time in at second.

Ceetar Apr 29 2010 12:17 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

btw, DeRosa kinda sucks this year. I wouldn't want those numbers on my team right now.. Murphy is a better player than Catalnotto and Tatis (leaving GMJ and Cora out since they play positions Murph doesn't) No reason not to bring him up here, other than I don't think Manuel particularly likes him. He'll add value. And we'll worry about Ike if we need to. He wouldn't be the first guy (Murphy himself comes to mind) to have a really hot start and then cool off and be overmatched. It doesn't look like Ike will right now, but if he starts to slow a little, even just giving him a day or two off I'd feel a lot more comfortable with Murphy playing than Fernando or Frank.

attgig Apr 29 2010 12:46 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't imagine that Perez + Murphy would bring back anything other than an overpaid guy who the other team doesn't want. Sure, Murphy sweetens it a bit, but I don't think enough to make much of a difference. ok. Perez + Murphy + $$

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2010 12:51 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

attgig wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't imagine that Perez + Murphy would bring back anything other than an overpaid guy who the other team doesn't want. Sure, Murphy sweetens it a bit, but I don't think enough to make much of a difference. ok. Perez + Murphy + $$ Dude. Let's flip it. You're a GM of... hell, pick a team. Omar comes to you with Murphy, Perez and, say, 20M to offset Perez's salary. What would you be willing to give in a pitching vein for this package? (Keeping in mind that your team is so pitching-poor that you'd be champing at the bit to plug Perez into your starting rotation.)

attgig Apr 29 2010 01:17 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I can't imagine that Perez + Murphy would bring back anything other than an overpaid guy who the other team doesn't want. Sure, Murphy sweetens it a bit, but I don't think enough to make much of a difference. ok. Perez + Murphy + $$ Dude. Let's flip it. You're a GM of... hell, pick a team. Omar comes to you with Murphy, Perez and, say, 20M to offset Perez's salary. What would you be willing to give in a pitching vein for this package? (Keeping in mind that your team is so pitching-poor that you'd be champing at the bit to plug Perez into your starting rotation.) Ok, I'm the pirates. My starting pitchers are atrocious, some of them getting too old for me to really expect them to be able to consider as young enough that I let them develop: ie, my ace, zach duke is 27 years old coming off a decent season for a #4 or 5, and starting the year with a 6+ era. meanwhile, when one of the other starters just went down with a concussion, I had to call up a guy who has had no major league success, and was even cut by the o's for rich hill.... Meanwhile, I have a 1bman who's a washed up ex-prospect barely hitting 200. Could I consider bringin Ollie back who's had success there in the past for a few mil a year in hopes that he can reclaim that past success? Do I bring in a serviceable, albiet not great, 1bman who'll actually produce a little bit to replace the longshot that I signed in the offseason? If I'm getting money, where perez can be had for maybe 1/2 the salary, I don't think it's such a huge commitment, that he doesn't go for it, perhaps sending back a prospect or two in return. obviously nobody who's a sure thing, cuz they're going to hold onto them. But maybe who could become a decent option int he pen. meanwhile, there's either Dillon Gee or Tak to replace perez. or maybe the A's with the sheets experiment obviously failing, and a huge hole at DH, and their 1bman possibly out with a fractured finger. maybe the nationals with them putting marquis on the DL maybe the astros and their lack of offense in the end, will the mets admit their mistake, and dump ollie? i doubt it. and I didn't mean to hijack the thread about murph so my appologies there.... but my point is if the mets are willing to eat some money, admit their mistake, move on, I think teams will be willing to take him. heck, if kris benson got a gig this year, i think a team will give ollie a shot...

Edgy DC Apr 29 2010 01:21 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Admitting the Mets overpaid Oliver Perez and dealing him aren't the same thing.

metirish May 02 2010 01:27 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Newsday Mets explore options for when Murphy returns Daniel Murphy is expected to be used in a utility role at Triple-A Buffalo when he returns from the disabled list. PHILADELPHIA - The dawn of the Ike Davis Era has forced the Mets into yet another experimental phase with Daniel Murphy, who is expected to be used in a utility role at Triple-A Buffalo when he returns from the disabled list. A person familiar with the club's thinking insisted that it was a tentative plan because there is no predicting what may happen between now and when Murphy is healthy enough to be activated. Murphy was supposed to be the Mets' Opening Day first baseman, but lost the job when he suffered a Grade 1 sprain of his right knee during the final week of spring training. Murphy, 25, has been on the DL since March 31 for an injury that the Mets estimated would cost him two to six weeks. He played five innings at first base Friday in an extended spring training game in Port St. Lucie, Fla., but took Saturday off. The Mets do not anticipate trying him at second base or leftfield until he is completely healthy and they were unsure how much longer Murphy would need in Florida before heading to Buffalo. But with Davis anchored at first base for the immediate future, Murphy needs to give the Mets more defensive options if he is to be used in the majors as a utility player. Also, the team has no idea if Murphy can handle a variety of positions. Last season, Murphy made the Opening Day roster as the team's starting leftfielder, but started only 27 games there before his defensive lapses - and Carlos Delgado's hip surgery - prompted the Mets to switch him to first base. Murphy made his first career start at the new position May 20 in Los Angeles and continued to be a work-in-progress during the remainder of the season. Heading into this year, the Mets planned to have Murphy as their starting first baseman, even after signing Mike Jacobs, and his occasional tutorials with 11-time Gold Glove winner Keith Hernandez had them optimistic that he could handle the job. As long as Davis remains healthy, however, the prospects for Murphy at first base are slim. He could be useful off the bench. In 48 career games as a pinch hitter, Murphy is batting .317 (13-for-41) with a double, triple, two homers and 12 RBIs.

smg58 May 02 2010 05:36 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I think whatever future Murphy has as a starting player is probably going to come at third base, which won't happen with the Mets. That doesn't mean he couldn't be a very good reserve for us in the meantime, but he should get some time at second, third, and the outfield in AAA before getting a call-up. I'd worry about his market value later.

G-Fafif May 02 2010 11:12 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

After the last two days, I make him my ace pitcher.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2010 01:09 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

So, Murph's shuffled off to Buffalo for SuperJoe-ing. But I'm kind of curious... what exactly does this mean? What of the mechanics of this? Are there performance targets the organization is-- or should be-- looking to see? Games-played targets? Skills-demonstration? I wonder... what sort of training process/targets does one use to build a utility player?

metirish May 25 2010 01:19 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Good questions , he's listed at 6'2" - 215 (that seems generous) , will he be nimble out there?.....is that big for a second baseman?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2010 01:28 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

He seems okay fielding balls at first, though I'm not certain we'll ever call him "nimble." What he does seem to be is aggressive and rangy. Channeled properly and with glove-eye coordination that even approaches average, that could make for a hell of a run-saver there, actually.

G-Fafif May 25 2010 02:02 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

This thread title could have been borrowed from a 1930s radio comedy series in which the foibles of Murphy the immigrant barkeep are fodder for laughter for the good American folk listening at home while sublimating their mistrust of "ethnics". "What Do You Do With Murphy?" is brought to you by the manufacturers of Maxwell House Coffee -- it would even sober up an Irishman!

Swan Swan H May 25 2010 02:09 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Shave his belly with a rusty razor, early in the morning.

bmfc1 May 25 2010 02:19 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Murphy in the starting lineup tonight for the Bisons, playing 1B (displacing Jacobs). http://bisonsblog.mlblogs.com/archives/ ... ame_4.html

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 01 2010 02:28 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Murphy in the starting lineup again tonight for the Bisons... at second, as per Adam Rubin.

soupcan Jun 01 2010 02:47 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

So this Murphy to second business is kinda funny to me right now. This weekend my son's Babe Ruth team (13 year-olds) played a great game. A really nice kid (Robbie) tossed a complete game (7 innings) 2 hit shutout against a team that looked like each one of them could best the Manassas Mauler. It was really great because Robbie is this pudgy little lefthander who was just soft-tossing these lumberjacks the whole game and they were corkscrewing themselves into the ground trying to knock the ball three counties over. But I digress... One parent comes over to my son's coach around the 6th inning and starts arguing with him because HIS son has not been seeing enough time at second and has been batting too low in the order for the dad's (and presumably the son's) liking. The coach - much to his credit - dismisses the dad wih a wave of his hand, telling the dad, "I'm not discussing this with you, now". The dad, then proceeds to smack the coaches hand away forcifully, then knocks the coach's hat off of his head, threatens to punch him and made more threats about consequence and bad things that would happen to to the coach. Now rest assured that is all being handled as I type this and it looks like the dad (the sponsor of the team btw) will be banned from attending any more games. My point in telling you all this story is that the coach - we'll call him 'Bob' (because, well, that's his name) has for as long as I've been helping him out (2 years) felt that at the level the boys are now playing, it behooves the team to put the better athletes in the outfield rather than the infield. His reasoning is that if you make an error in the infield it may cost you a base, but if you make an error in the outfield it will cost you a run. As a result Bob plays his best athletes in the outfield. In other words its a compliment to be an outfielder on Bob's team and he's basically saying that any fencepost can play second. And THAT is where the Murphy thing comes in. Why hide the guy in the outfield where bad defense can and will be so much more costly. Put him at second. How hard can it really be for a major-league player who came up as an infielder to be a serviceable second baseman?

Ceetar Jun 01 2010 03:02 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Infield does seem to be more Murphy's speed, although i wouldn't be opposed to the occasional OF stint if it created roster flexibility elsewhere. I think he'll be fine at second, if not above average like he seemed at first. The one thing I'd say is that second is a lot more passive than the corners, and Murphy is a very aggressive guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 01 2010 03:09 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Ceetar wrote: The one thing I'd say is that second is a lot more passive than the corners, and Murphy is a very aggressive guy. I think that's just the way the incumbent plays it. Middle-infield's all about controlled (insofar as you know which of you and the shortstop is covering the bag/going full-bore for this grounder ahead of time) aggressiveness; the corners just require quicker reflexes. soupcan wrote: Put him at second. How hard can it really be for a major-league player who came up as an infielder to be a serviceable second baseman? I think, turns aside, he seems pretty temperamentally suited to be a decent sort of second baseman, if not a particularly fun to watch sort... making up with range/aggression what he doesn't have in dexterity. Also, I don't know whether I'm more amazed at DoucheDad's smacking of the coach's hand, or the fact that he was arguing Babe Ruth batting order to begin with.

attgig Jun 01 2010 03:16 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

soupcan wrote: His reasoning is that if you make an error in the infield it may cost you a base, but if you make an error in the outfield it will cost you a run. kinda think this coaching strategy is more suited for those lower levels. while you expect to give up a base or few in little league baseball, giving up a base at the major league level is generally NOT a good thing. While an error in the outfield may have larger repercussions, the amount of chances a 2bman gets will require a better defender on a play by play basis. not only is it about errors, but also about range - will he be able to get to balls to prevent even a base hit much less an error. or consider hands/arm with the double play balls. i like bob's strategy for kids learning positions, but if he did that in the major league level, it would NOT fly.

Frayed Knot Jun 01 2010 03:21 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

How hard can it really be for a major-league player who came up as an infielder to be a serviceable second baseman? If it was easy they'd all do it as you can usually get away with much less of a stick at 2B than at 3B. Or, put another way, a good hitting 2B is considerably more valuable than the same stick at 3B and yet all this time no one ever thought to put Murph at 2nd - possibly because he was just considered a passable at best 3rd sacker.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 01 2010 03:21 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

That DB parent sounds like the kind of guy who would build a hockey rink in his yard. I coach a coed softball team, and I can hide a player at second -- but not as much as in right. Granted, we have four outfielders, and coed softball doesn't resemble baseball in anything other than that David Wright is on the tag that came with my glove. But I liked Soup's story. In an unrelated matter, I once had a player who demanded to bat leadoff, play short and play every inning of every game. He could hit a little, but I swear I had him at short and he botched every single throw over to first. I wonder if he had a dad like the one in Soup's story.

Edgy DC Jun 01 2010 08:34 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

What's the name/URL of the dad's corporation?

soupcan Jun 02 2010 07:10 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Edgy DC wrote: What's the name/URL of the dad's corporation? You really want it...?

Centerfield Jun 02 2010 07:19 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

In DoucheDad's defense, Alex Cora Jr. has almost no range at second base, and has no business batting that high in the order...

Edgy DC Jun 02 2010 07:20 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

You really want it...? Why not? If he's going to whack the forumite's children's coach's hats off, he deserves a little pushback. Anyhow, as a career secondbaseman, I have to say that, while covering a lot more ground in Babe Ruth 13-Year-Old Prep, it was a pretty easy position that year. I could play shallow, get three chances to pick up a ball after knocking it down, and get credits for infield fly putouts before even catching them. (Two or more runners forced with less than two outs was a near contstant.) Baserunners just didn't get down the line particularly fast. I even turned two or three doubleplays that year. The downside is that I developed some bad habits that needed shedding later. I also whacked the hell out of the ball that year, batting third and hitting .500. My team was pretty sucky, however, scratching for consistent pitching.

soupcan Jun 02 2010 07:26 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Tell you what - at this point let me see what the league does to discipline him. Once the whole thing shakes out, if you still want it, I'll pm it to you.

Centerfield Jun 02 2010 03:38 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Anyone know how he did last night? Did he kill anyone?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 02 2010 05:27 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Centerfield wrote: Anyone know how he did last night? Did he kill anyone? Not too bad.

Gwreck Jun 02 2010 09:31 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Murphy suffers serious leg injury on takeout slide at second base tonight in Buffalo.

OlerudOwned Jun 02 2010 09:31 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Adam Rubin wrote: Daniel Murphy appear to suffer a serious leg injury Wednesday night with Triple-A Buffalo. According to the Buffalo News' Mike Harrington, Murphy needed to be carried off the field after getting rolled at second on a "cheap slide" on a double play by Syracuse's Leonard Davis. He was unable to put weight on his right leg. Murphy was playing his second straight game at second base. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... in-buffalo derp

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 02 2010 09:54 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

d'oh

Rockin' Doc Jun 02 2010 10:16 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Poor Murphy. I hope it isn't as serious as it sounds. Second base can be a very dangerous place for those that aren't accustomed to dealing with base runners around the bag.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 03 2010 04:24 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Holy crap.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 03 2010 05:14 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

He'll make a great utility glue, anyway. This is terrible for him.

themetfairy Jun 03 2010 05:39 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

That's just awful. Poor kid!

Fman99 Jun 03 2010 06:13 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Damn, Syracuse, why you gots to be like that?

bmfc1 Jun 03 2010 06:21 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy? Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 03 2010 07:42 PM

Just awful. Perhaps a more experienced 2B gets out of the way. And if the Nationals player was guilty of a dirty hit, I hope that the Bisons remember it this afternoon. From the [u:1v2x7t1l]Buffalo News[/u:1v2x7t1l]: Murphy was carried off the field in the seventh inning after Syracuse's Leonard Davis roll-blocked him sliding past second base on a double-play pivot. Dirty play. You wonder if it's season-ending. Especially since it's the same knee Murphy injured in spring traing. At any rate, the Mets' experiement with Murphy as a utility man is over for a while. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/insidepitc ... e-out.html

Edgy DC Jun 03 2010 07:38 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I bet his dad is sorry he yelled at Ken Oberkfell now. Seriously, the roll-block is a dirty play under any circumstances. I'm guessing, but I imagine for some players, there's an extra cheap thrill getting a piece of big leaguers playing in the minors.

duan Jun 03 2010 11:33 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

what's a roll block?

Edgy DC Jun 03 2010 11:42 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

The rolling block slide is rolling your torso toward the relaying player as you slide toward him, so you not only interfere with his throw, but if his leg remains at all planted, you do some serious damage to it, potentially bending it under your body with all it's forward force rolling down on it.

Edgy DC Jun 03 2010 11:45 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Or, if you're A-Rod, you can try to sit on the guy's leg.

Ashie62 Jun 03 2010 11:59 AM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

A case of Murphy's law. He may want to forget 2010 by now anyway.

Centerfield Jun 03 2010 12:00 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Well, I guess we were hoping Murphy would end up like Wigginton.

Ashie62 Jun 03 2010 12:30 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Centerfield wrote: Well, I guess we were hoping Murphy would end up like Wigginton. Yeah, pretty much.

Zvon Jun 03 2010 03:12 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Why have we been so snake bit for the last bunch of years! Did this all begin with the homer by FatAss in 2006? Someone, please point out exactly what we did to deserve all that has happened since. Ill become METRETROMAN and I'll develop the ability to go back in time and fix all this! After reading about this yesterday and Castillos other foot today I had to think WTF do we do now? Cora is what he is, and he has been over achieving in some aspects, but he is no PORNSTARMUSTACHMAN. Feel free to prove me wrong Alex. Feel very free.

bmfc1 Jun 03 2010 03:42 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Murphy is out 4 to 6 months: Andy Martino SurfingTheMets Daniel Murphy's MRI showed a high-grade tear of the MCL in right knee, per team spokesperson. Out 4-6 months, but won't need surgery.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 03 2010 03:57 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Poor guy.

Frayed Knot Jun 03 2010 04:03 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

A "high grade tear" of a ligament but no surgery. That sounds odd.

Centerfield Jun 03 2010 04:13 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

When tears are of the highest quality, they heal themselves?

themetfairy Jun 03 2010 04:33 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I feel as bad about this as I felt about Jon Niese's injury last year. That is just such a shame.

attgig Jun 03 2010 05:55 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I guess that answers that question....

Ceetar Jun 03 2010 06:31 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

attgig wrote: I guess that answers that question.... Stays on the DL, likely transferred to 60day when/if Beltran is back. Yup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 03 2010 07:28 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

bmfc1 wrote: Just awful. Perhaps a more experience 2B gets out of the way. And if the Nationals player was guilty of a dirty hit, I hope that the Bisons remember it this afternoon. From the Buffalo News: Murphy was carried off the field in the seventh inning after Syracuse's Leonard Davis roll-blocked him sliding past second base on a double-play pivot. Dirty play. You wonder if it's season-ending. Especially since it's the same knee Murphy injured in spring traing. At any rate, the Mets' experiement with Murphy as a utility man is over for a while. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/insidepitc ... e-out.html MOTHERf*cker. Once saw a teammate go down to a bad ligament sprain thanks to a similar roll-block at second. "Dirty pool" doesn't begin to describe this shit. Is it wrong to call for a bounty on a career minor-leaguer?

Edgy DC Jun 03 2010 09:03 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I certainly don't advocate that, but I wonder if there is any payback, it might come at the big league level, since it was a slumming big leaguer --- with as much loyalty, presumably, in Flushing as in Buffalo --- who was hurt.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 03 2010 09:17 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Actually I think the thug who rolled him was considered a small-time prospect still.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2010 12:38 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Choppy video of the slide here.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2010 01:21 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Sure looked like the rolling block to me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2010 02:13 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Begun at the bag, no less-- Murphy played the pivot like a veteran.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 31 2010 01:56 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

All right, all right, all right. Daniel Murphy wanted to contribute as a pinch hitter to the Mets in September, but his rehab from a knee injury suffered in a takeout slide with Triple-A Buffalo wasn't rapid enough to allow for it. However, the organization plans to send Murphy to the Dominican Republic this winter. Murphy primarily will play second base for Aguilas. He also should see action at first base and in left field.

G-Fafif Aug 31 2010 02:16 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

I can hear those green t-shirts in the team store getting marked up as we speak.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2010 02:16 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Yes, yes, and yes. The only problem with working him at second was that I think working him there in the AFL and then an injury costing him his outfielding reps in the Winter League maybe hurt him as an outfielder. So I hope he moves around some. Does Chris Aguila play for Aguilas?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 31 2010 02:49 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Sadly, he's in NO with the Zephyrs, and unlikely to play winter ball in the DR. A missed opportunity.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2010 03:05 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Sadly, he's in NO with the Zephyrs, and unlikely to play winter ball in the DR. A missed opportunity. I'm sure Zephs will be welcome to join Aguilas. "Aguilas" = Eagles.

DocTee Aug 31 2010 05:23 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

AFL rosters announced today. Met assignments include pitchers Robert Carson and Josh Stinson (both of Binghamton), C Kai Gronaeur (St. Lucie) and IF Jordanny Valdespina (Bingo). An additional pair of pitchers and an OF to be determined will join pitching coach Ricky Bones on the Mesa Solar Sox.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2010 05:44 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Interesting. No real big shots there.

Ashie62 Aug 31 2010 07:38 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Is Daniel Murphy still releveant?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 31 2010 08:28 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

If he can play a passable second, he sure as hell is.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2010 08:56 PM Re: What do you do with Murphy?

Of course he is. Don't be such a day-trader.