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40 years

Frayed Knot
May 04 2010 04:51 PM

Ashie62
May 04 2010 09:03 PM
Re: 40 years

Reminds me of the Iranian protester who was shot in the chest

Edgy DC
May 04 2010 09:26 PM
Re: 40 years

I don't know what to make of the Washington Times. People hate it, and I used to tend to defend it as no more biased that the Post, and a paper owned and controlled by a church (one pretty out there) is no worse than a paper owned and controlled by a single family, except both arguments have become harder to make in recent years.

Anyhow, they led today with an article suggesting that the National Guardsmen may have been fired at first. This, even as the actual story concludes that the lion's share of the evidence says no, and was accepted by an administration with an interesting in suggesting otherwise.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -killings/

I try and give it credence, but the author bio cites FOX News and I just. Struggle. To do it.

Nymr83
May 04 2010 09:36 PM
Re: 40 years

[quote="Edgy DC"]I don't know what to make of the Washington Times. People hate it, and I used to tend to defend it as no more biased that the Post, and a paper owned and controlled by a church (one pretty out there) is no worse than a paper owned and controlled by a single family, except both arguments have become harder to make in recent years.

Anyhow, they led today with an article suggesting that the National Guardsmen may have been fired at first. This, even as the actual story concludes that the lion's share of the evidence says no, and was accepted by an administration with an interesting in suggesting otherwise.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -killings/

I try and give it credence, but the author bio cites FOX News and I just. Struggle. To do it.



James Rosen, a Fox News correspondent, examined previously undisclosed FBI files on the Kent State shootings while researching his biography "The Strong Man: John Mitchell and the Secrets of Watergate."


the New York Times op-ed section they lies, most recently regarding what is actually in Arizona's anit-illegal-immigrants law, but i guess you'd consider them a reliable source? Fox News' actual reporters are not Hannity/O'Reilly and the actual worh they do is as believable as any other mainstream news source, except that you dont like the stories they print.

i dont know what the heck really happened at Kent State, but your dissmissal of a story, based on FBI reports, just because it was written by a Fox News correspondent, damages your credibility not his.


*apologies for typos, does anyone else get this weird thing where the screen wont let you see what you are typing because it "jumps" up every time you start typing? any known fix for that?

Edgy DC
May 04 2010 09:52 PM
Re: 40 years

the New York Times op-ed section they lies


I don't quite know what to make of this construction.

but i guess you'd consider them a reliable source?


Is that a question or a statement.

i dont know what the heck really happened at Kent State, but your dissmissal of a story, based on FBI reports, just because it was written by a Fox News correspondent, damages your credibility not his.


Does that sound like what I did? Because I really read it and wanted to believe it. As I characterized myself, I was straining. So how about shutting up about my credibility. You have no clue. I clearly state --- clearly as anybody can read --- that my skepticism was triggered (1) by my daily reading of the Times despite my attempts to give it all the slack I could, and (2) by my reading of the actual article. The author's CV enters into it lastly but your conclusion of "just because it was written" is as ungenerous a reading of my post as one can give.

Really, give me a break and read what I actually write. You've already called me a line-item liberal once too many times for my blood.

Ashie62
May 04 2010 10:21 PM
Re: 40 years

How about just a horrid time in American history?

Nymr83
May 04 2010 10:37 PM
Re: 40 years

Does that sound like what I did?


I try and give it credence, but the author bio cites FOX News and I just. Struggle. To do it


thats how i read your line with a period after every word there, each word an emphatic statement, thats not how you meant it? because you cant tell me thats not a reasonable reading.

Edgy DC
May 05 2010 05:39 AM
Re: 40 years

And the rest of it? Anything at all? Two long posts. I'm trying really hard here.

Nymr83
May 05 2010 08:09 PM
Re: 40 years

And the rest of it? Anything at all? Two long posts. I'm trying really hard here

the rest becomes alot less relevant if you're telling me you didn't mean that how i took it, but ok...

I don't quite know what to make of this construction.

it should have said "tells lies" but as i said at the end of my post, i was having an issue actually seeing what i was typing
Is that a question or a statement.

a question
Does that sound like what I did?

answered that one already

what else did you say that you dont think i responded to? your (in my eyes) attack on Fox News was what i was responding to, i'm not opining either way on what happened at Kent State.

Edgy DC
May 05 2010 08:16 PM
Re: 40 years

Just read it. I even enumerate the second time through. I'm not going to water it down any more.

This is the second time this has happened to me this week. It's like you have opinion about me and, damn it, you're commited to it, so anything I type that doesn't support that, well, you'll just ignore, because your opiinion is the truth.