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The Elephant in the Living Room

Edgy DC May 20 2010 07:08 AM

I know it's difficult, but we have to talk about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcIEEdTiNak It's like we've hit peak production on trainwreck all-star collaborations. There will be others, but never again like this. Try to turn away. You cannot.

soupcan May 20 2010 07:41 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Oh Lord, that's horrible. Douche chills. It looks like none of them even know the words and they are reading off a screen on the stage in front of them. Where was that and WHY were those six even on a stage together? When my grandfather died in 1992 at age 85 he said that he was ready to go because the world he now lived in was not one he recognized anymore. After watching that video I'm starting to feel the same way.

MFS62 May 20 2010 07:56 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="soupcan":1rq3fv77] It looks like none of them even know the words and they are reading off a screen on the stage in front of them. [/quote:1rq3fv77] Actually, if you can read lips, you'd know that Sir Elton was asking Lada Gaga for the name of her designer. As for why they were together, probably for a benefit of some kind. It did not benefit our senses. Later

Gwreck May 20 2010 08:13 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Here's the background information: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/15/arts/music/15rainforest.html. It was at Carnegie Hall last week as a benefit for Sting's Rainforest Foundation. The "theme" of the night was 80's Nostalgia.

Frayed Knot May 20 2010 08:19 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Yes, save the "rainforest", because if we still called them "jungles" no one would give a shit.

Edgy DC May 20 2010 10:03 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?

seawolf17 May 20 2010 10:10 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":a50k2i5k]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:a50k2i5k] Yikes.

soupcan May 20 2010 10:50 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":3shmtn66]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:3shmtn66] No, do I really have to?

metirish May 20 2010 10:55 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Shirley Bassey was really in to it ......painful to watch

metirish May 20 2010 10:57 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":avegafqs]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:avegafqs] Oh my

Rockin' Doc May 20 2010 11:06 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":x52vxb2h]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:x52vxb2h] Damn it. You just sucked me in to opening that video a second time. I'll get you for this. [quote="Edgy DC":x52vxb2h]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:x52vxb2h] [quote="soupcan":x52vxb2h]No, do I really have to?[/quote:x52vxb2h] Not if you're smart.

Edgy DC May 20 2010 11:07 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="metirish":1jnm0kkh]Shirley Bassey was really in to it ......painful to watch[/quote:1jnm0kkh] Shirley Bassey not only brough absolutely nothing to the table, it actually wasn't clear she knew which way the audience was. What good is used up Sting and how can it be worth having?

Frayed Knot May 20 2010 11:20 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":1zh17sbi]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:1zh17sbi] Have yet to advance beyond the title. Maybe later when I've got a drink in my hand.

soupcan May 20 2010 11:22 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

When I asked if I really had to, the answer should have been 'ABSOLUTELY' because watching Queen Elton leer at and grope those guys made it worth it. Wow though. What a piece of crap of a performance. All the way around - they all get credit for that.

Edgy DC May 20 2010 11:29 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Frayed Knot":2lo5qv0g][quote="Edgy DC":2lo5qv0g]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:2lo5qv0g] Have yet to advance beyond the title. Maybe later when I've got a drink in my hand.[/quote:2lo5qv0g] Speaking of which, Sir Elton certainly seems off the wagon in that shot.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2010 12:02 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC"]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?

Jamie Foxxis punishing himself for not thinking of that.

I'm with Soups-- this nudges it just over whatever hump separates garden-variety "terrible" from "over-the-top eye-fucking."

Gwreck May 20 2010 09:04 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Couple of notes: Did you notice that Lady Gaga and Bruce are the only people who seem to actually know the song? The extras (4:15) were from the Elton John-sung Madonna medley earlier in the show. He did Material Girl and Like a Virgin with those dancers. Bruce is joined at the microphone (3:55) by Kate Hudson. The person planting the kiss on Bruce at the end is Trudie Styler (a/k/a Mrs. Sting). I believe the bottom end on the ticket prices for this event were $300 which is why I passed. Bruce was the "surprise" guest at the end but I think it was somewhat known he would be showing up. Funnily enough, my initial reaction when hearing about this last week wasn't the everybody-joins-in-finale (whatever) but that Bruce had done "Cuts Like a Knife" (yes, the Bryan Adams song) as his "80s Nostalgia" choice for the evening.

Frayed Knot May 20 2010 09:52 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

Ashie62 May 20 2010 09:54 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Dear God in heaven...too funny, and Lady Gaga carries the crew.

Gwreck May 20 2010 09:56 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Frayed Knot"]I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

The half-naked men were from Elton John's bit, as noted above.

But the costumes aside, yes, she can actually sing, write her songs and is also a decent piano player too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2010 10:01 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Frayed Knot"]I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

Classically trained in childhood, accepted to Tisch as a music major, dropped out to perform on the LES club scene, and held a job writing songs for a small label for two years. The pipes are real, too-- there's chops there.

Musically, she's miles beyond Madonna.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2010 10:11 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

I wanna burn a few acres of the Amazon just for that though.

Fman99 May 20 2010 10:11 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

This thread should be renamed "The Elephant in the Other Same Sexed Elephant's Congo Hole."

Edgy DC May 20 2010 10:31 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Gwreck":2fl1wv58]Did you notice that Lady Gaga and Bruce are the only people who seem to actually know the song?[/quote:2fl1wv58] It's mumbled at the beginning, but Sssstink is introducing by saying that, when he suggested to Bruce that they do it, Bruce claimed he didn't know it, and that he must be the only person in America who doesn't. Bruce claimed beforehand that he was a big fan of "Cuts Like a Knife." (Good on him if that's true but I have my suspicions.) How could he know that so intimately and not "DSB"? They're both come to the world through the same filter. [quote="Gwreck":2fl1wv58]The extras (4:15) were from the Elton John-sung Madonna medley earlier in the show. He did Material Girl and Like a Virgin with those dancers.[/quote:2fl1wv58] I would have gotten it in one guess. Maybe two. [quote="Gwreck":2fl1wv58]Bruce is joined at the microphone (3:55) by Kate Hudson. [/quote:2fl1wv58] And you wouldn't pay the $300?!

Edgy DC May 20 2010 10:35 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="Frayed Knot"]I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

Classically trained in childhood, accepted to Tisch as a music major, dropped out to perform on the LES club scene, and held a job writing songs for a small label for two years. The pipes are real, too-- there's chops there.
A lot of folks are classically trained. She's a delivery system for a market-targeted, artifically generated image.

Gwreck May 21 2010 06:28 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":3vy9f5oz]It's mumbled at the beginning, but Sssstink is introducing by saying that, when he suggested to Bruce that they do it, Bruce claimed he didn't know it, and that he must be the only person in America who doesn't. Bruce claimed beforehand that he was a big fan of "Cuts Like a Knife." (Good on him if that's true but I have my suspicions.) How could he know that so intimately and not "DSB"? They're both come to the world through the same filter.[/quote:3vy9f5oz] As per the NY Times article, that's backwards -- DSB was Bruce's suggestion and Sting who didn't know the song.

Frayed Knot May 21 2010 08:40 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="Frayed Knot"]I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

Classically trained in childhood, accepted to Tisch as a music major, dropped out to perform on the LES club scene, and held a job writing songs for a small label for two years. The pipes are real, too-- there's chops there.
A lot of folks are classically trained. She's a delivery system for a market-targeted, artifically generated image.

Oh no question. I just honestly didn't know whether or not there was an actual voice/talent to go with the manufactured image.
The one or two times I've seen her (on TV) there's so much bullshit going on on stage (naked male dancers, other performers, pyrotechnics, costume crimes, etc.) that it's hard to tell if there's even a song behind it all much less if there's actual talent there.

Edgy DC May 21 2010 09:03 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

I just honestly didn't know whether or not there was an actual voice/talent to go with the manufactured image. Yeah, and I'm coming down on the side of not so much that you'd notice if the bullshit was stripped away.

metsguyinmichigan May 21 2010 11:44 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC":1paldrp1]None of you made it to the magical 4:15 mark, have you?[/quote:1paldrp1] What, you don't wear Speedos out in public to perform? Wow. You could see the two computer monitors facing the performers, and you just know they were showing the lyrics -- apparently not large enough for our aging rockers to see without their glasses.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 21 2010 11:50 AM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

[quote="Edgy DC"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="Frayed Knot"]I'm almost afraid to ask this - but because the few times I've seen her it's been, in the true Madonna tradition, all about the outfits and half-naked men running around so it's hard to tell. So is Lady Gaga's act totally an image/fashion thing or can she actually sing?

Classically trained in childhood, accepted to Tisch as a music major, dropped out to perform on the LES club scene, and held a job writing songs for a small label for two years. The pipes are real, too-- there's chops there.
A lot of folks are classically trained. She's a delivery system for a market-targeted, artifically generated image.

Hey, I just confirmed she has chops, or at least more chops than [model's name here] who decides they want to "put out a track" after they finish the promotion work on their new, Target-sold line of bronzer.

But this is market-targeted? Yumpin' Yiminy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 21 2010 12:15 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Oh, Jesus Christ. It won't mess with your mental-imagery-machinery too much, but, musically, well... I see you, and raise you this. Good God.

TransMonk May 21 2010 01:29 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

I pretty much abhor all pop music...but I'm of the opinion that Lady Gaga does everything that Madonna has always tried to do much better than Madonna ever did. I don't like her music, but I applaud her effort and appreciate her tongue-in-cheek style.

Ashie62 May 21 2010 02:08 PM Re: The Elephant in the Living Room

Springsteen is a fraud