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Lance Armstrong: Cheater

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2010 08:07 AM

I'm sure this is a plot by the French too, right Lance? Fraud PS: Holy shit. Cyclist Floyd Landis Admits Doping, Alleges Use by Armstrong and Others By REED ALBERGOTTI And VANESSA O'CONNELL Floyd Landis, the American cyclist whose 2006 Tour De France victory was nullified after a positive doping test, has sent a series of emails to cycling officials and sponsors admitting to, and detailing, his systematic use of performance enhancing drugs during his career. The emails also claim that other riders and cycling officials allegedly participated in doping, including seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong. It's unclear how many emails Mr. Landis sent. Three emails, which are dated between April 30 and May 6, have been reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. Mr. Landis copied seven people on these three emails, including officials with USA Cycling and the International Cycling Union. Three people who have seen the emails and spoken to Mr. Landis about them say they are authentic. Mr. Armstrong did not respond to messages seeking comment Wednesday evening. Mr. Armstrong has faced a number of doping accusations during his career, which he has denied. He has never been sanctioned. Mr. Landis's charges couldn't be independently verified. Mr. Landis did not respond to a request for comment. In the emails, he expressed frustration about the inability of antidoping officials to clean up the sport. After the Tour De France stripped Mr. Landis of his 2006 victory for testing positive for elevated levels of testosterone after one crucial stage of the race, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency gave him a two-year ban from the sport. From the moment the positive test was revealed, Mr. Landis has denied publicly ever using performance enhancing drugs. The emails are particularly focused on American riders. Mr. Landis said in them that during his career, he and other American riders learned how to conduct blood transfusions, take the synthetic blood booster Erythropoietin, or EPO, and use steroids. Mr. Landis said he started using testosterone patches, then progressed to blood transfusions, EPO, and a liquid steroid taken orally. In one of the emails, dated April 30 and addressed to Stephen Johnson, the president of USA Cycling, Mr. Landis said that Mr. Armstrong's longtime coach, Johan Bruyneel, introduced Mr. Landis to the use of steroid patches, blood doping and human growth hormone in 2002 and 2003, his first two years on the U.S. Postal Service team. He alleged Mr. Armstrong helped him understand the way the drugs worked. "He and I had lengthy discussions about it on our training rides during which time he also explained to me the evolution of EPO testing and how transfusions were now necessary due to the inconvenience of the new test," Mr. Landis claimed in the email. He claimed he was instructed by Mr. Bruyneel how to use synthetic EPO and steroids and how to carry out blood transfusions that doping officials wouldn't be able to detect. Mr. Bruyneel and Mr. Johnson could not be reached for comment. In the same email, Mr. Landis wrote that after breaking his hip in 2003, he flew to Girona, Spain—a training hub for American riders—and had two half-liter units of blood extracted from his body in three-week intervals to be used later during the Tour de France. The extraction, Mr. Landis claimed, took place in Mr. Armstrong's apartment, where blood bags belonging to Mr. Armstrong and his then-teammate George Hincapie were kept in a refrigerator in Mr. Armstrong's closet. Mr. Landis said he was asked to check the temperature of the blood daily. According to Mr. Landis, Mr. Armstrong left for a few weeks and asked Mr. Landis to make sure the electricity didn't go off and ruin the blood. George Hincapie, through a spokesman, denied the allegations. In the email sent on April 30 to Mr. Johnson, Mr. Landis said that in 2006, after leaving the U.S. Postal Service team for a team sponsored by Swiss hearing aide manufacturer Phonak, he said he told Andy Rihs, the team's owner, that he had been involved in a blood doping program in the past with his old team and wanted to continue doing so with Phonak. He said Mr. Rihs, who is the chairman of Sonova Holding AG, the Switzerland-based parent company for Phonak, agreed to pay for the same doping operations at Phonak. After Mr. Landis's positive test—which was for testosterone and not blood doping—the team disbanded in 2006. Mr. Rihs, through a spokesperson, declined to be interviewed. He said Thursday in a written statement that neither he nor the management of the team "knew that Floyd Landis was doped," and described the email statements by Mr. Landis as "lies" representing "a last tragic attempt of Landis to once again gain public recognition" that he has lost. In addition to these allegations, Mr. Landis's emails called current anti-doping efforts "a charade," detailed how to use EPO without getting caught and claimed he helped former teammates Levi Leipheimer and Dave Zabriskie take EPO before one Tour of California race. Mr. Leipheimer and Mr. Zabriskie could not be reached for comment.

Benjamin Grimm May 20 2010 08:09 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

And I was one hundred percent certain... Oh, never mind.

soupcan May 20 2010 08:11 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

The most amazing part of that to me is not the Lance Armstrong cheating part - but that Landis, after YEARS of emphatic denials and millions of dollars in legal fees to defend those allegations, has now admitted to doping. I think everybody always assumed that Armstrong did something, somewhere at some point. The Landis admission just floors me because of all the energy expended in the denials.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2010 08:14 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

You're joking, right? It's Armstrong whose been The I Didn't Do It Boy for so many years, not only denying and lying, but going out of his way to discredit the honest people who would bring him down. Landis I guess just didn't "Livestong" enough to continue bullshitting to the entire world.

metirish May 20 2010 08:16 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":z9s0fao6]You're joking, right? It's Armstrong whose been The I Didn't Do It Boy for so many years, not only denying and lying, but going out of his way to discredit the honest people who would bring him down. Landis I guess just didn't "Livestong" enough to continue bullshitting to the entire world.[/quote:z9s0fao6] 100% this.......

Edgy DC May 20 2010 08:25 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

The word "Landis" is actually Greek for "Canseco."

soupcan May 20 2010 08:31 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]You're joking, right? It's Armstrong whose been The I Didn't Do It Boy for so many years, not only denying and lying, but going out of his way to discredit the honest people who would bring him down.

Not joking - we all know Armstrong's a doper but he's never admitted it. Landis finally did.

Edgy DC May 20 2010 08:33 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

The difference in the denials is that Armstrong denied it dismissively in the face of whispering, innunendo, and incriminating associations. Landis denied it shriekingly in the face of multiple failed tests and stripped honors.

Benjamin Grimm May 20 2010 08:36 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

When I saw a headline about Landis and doping this morning, I thought... HUH? Because, to me, this Landis is the first one I think of:

soupcan May 20 2010 08:48 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="Edgy DC":it3nac7v]The difference in the denials is that Armstrong denied it dismissively in the face of whispering, innunendo, and incriminating associations. Landis denied it shriekingly in the face of multiple failed tests and stripped honors.[/quote:it3nac7v] Said much better. Thank you.

Edgy DC May 20 2010 08:54 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="Benjamin Grimm"]When I saw a headline about Landis and doping this morning, I thought... HUH? Because, to me, this Landis is the first one I think of:

That's a great photo, i'n't it? He looks like "I'm gonna fuck somebody up."

Frayed Knot May 20 2010 08:56 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

Yeah, Soupy's (and now Edgy's) point is that Landis is essentially using the (boxing promoter) Bob Arum defense: 'believe me now because today I'm telling you the truth while yesterday I was lying', and that Lance not only isn't denying proven facts but even he never went through the histrionics that Floyd did - especially considering the greater publicity that Lance-related stories get. Armstrong has certainly been arrogant enough in his denials: you can't prove it ... I've been tested more than anyone ... accuse me publicly and my lawyers will beat up your lawyers ... fuck you, etc but Landis was down right hysterical (you should read his book) in defending a legacy 1% that of Armstrong's.

MFS62 May 20 2010 09:04 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

I don't dislike Armstrong because he may or may not have been doping. I dislike Armstrong because he was fucking Sheryl Crow. And I wasn't. Later

seawolf17 May 20 2010 10:09 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl7V_BcsbMA Kenesaw Mountain Landis was a bad mother fucker He was seventeen feet tall, he had a hundred and fifty wives He didn't do that much except he saved the game of baseball He put two and two together and he noticed it was four Now the treachery of Shoeless Joe can't hurt us anymore And he'll always be remembered as Kenesaw Mountain Landis Fellow named Joe Jackson was a fielder for the Black Sox And he always wore his black socks, but he never wore no shoes He weren't the nicest fellow and he had a couple problems Cause he drank a lot and he beat his wife and he always acted rude He killed and ate some babies and he copped an attitude And the one man that he hated most was Kenesaw Mountain Landis The mafia said Shoeless Joe You should really run this show You should be the guy who owns baseball And all you really gotta do Is help us make a buck or two We'll bet on the other team You'll lose the game but make it seem Like nothing could be further from the truth Shoeless Joe did what they said he dropped a couple fly balls And he walked up to the pitcher and he poked him in the eye And in the seventh inning with the Black Sox nearly beaten There was someone who was watching from his blimp above the stands Cradling a rifle in his thick and meaty hands And as if you hadn't guessed yet it was Kenesaw Mountain Landis Kenesaw said drop that glove Or I swear by God above I'll make you regret playing baseball And Shoeless Joe looked up and saw The silver rifle's gaping maw And though no one had noticed yet His underwear was getting wet He peed himself in front of everyone Shoeless Joe was finished but he couldn't quite admit it So he raised his middle finger up above the other four And Kenesaw took careful aim and fired a single bullet And he shot that dirty finger off and he dropped his trusty gun And everybody in the stands knew that he had won And today they still refer to him as Kenesaw Mountain Landis Shoeless Joe left baseball and because a famous pop star And he asked the musical question is she really going out with him He had a couple albums and a comeback in the 80's But he never won a Grammy and he never was the same And he never could be satisfied with critical acclaim Cause the critics all confused him with the great Elvis Costello Yes the critics all confused him with the great Elvis Costello

Edgy DC May 20 2010 11:05 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

They're starting to get leaks out the Anthony Galea case, which is so far bad news for Santana Moss, and may soon be bad news for Jose Reyes and/or Carlos Beltran.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2010 11:27 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 20 2010 11:29 AM

What do you know, Lance Armstrong is denying it and casting aspersions on Landis.

Kong76 May 20 2010 11:28 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

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soupcan May 20 2010 11:54 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

Dude - if you really have yellow rubber bracelets that say 'LIESTRONG', I'll take 2 dozen.

Kong76 May 21 2010 08:42 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

I had 200 of those bracelets made up for something awhile back and I think it cost about $150. So at $0.75 a pop we could be sit- ting on a freakin' gold mind. I wonder if yellow 'LIESTRONG' bracelets would break any trademark laws or anything.

soupcan May 21 2010 09:30 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

I don't know if it technically would, but you know you'd be hearing from Lance, Inc. in short order. Our CPF attornies need to weigh in on this...

Edgy DC May 21 2010 09:45 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

I think the rulings on parodies are pretty set, and Kong is safe as houses.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 21 2010 09:58 AM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

It was noted in the papers this morning that Armstrong is good at threatening and instigating libel suits but he's never pursued one to the point of actually taking the stand.

Ashie62 May 22 2010 01:03 PM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="MFS62":1d7kx2l9]I don't dislike Armstrong because he may or may not have been doping. I dislike Armstrong because he was fucking Sheryl Crow. And I wasn't. Later[/quote:1d7kx2l9] I wouldn't fuck Cheryl Crow with your dick

Nymr83 May 22 2010 02:26 PM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

I had 200 of those bracelets made up for something awhile back and I think it cost about $150. So at $0.75 a pop we could be sit- ting on a freakin' gold mind. I wonder if yellow 'LIESTRONG' bracelets would break any trademark laws or anything. IMO you'd be safe as it is a parody. but that doesnt mean they couldnt sue and waste your time/money

MFS62 May 28 2010 07:40 PM Re: Lance Armstrong: Cheater

[quote="Ashie62"][quote="MFS62"]I don't dislike Armstrong because he may or may not have been doping. I dislike Armstrong because he was fucking Sheryl Crow. And I wasn't. Later

I wouldn't fuck Cheryl Crow with your dick
Neither would I .
But Sheryl is a different story.

But, don't worry. You probably couldn't even lift it.

Later