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2008/2009 Updates

Frayed Knot May 18 2010 08:29 PM

OK, it had been two years since we updated our Rankings list. The usual reasons apply: computer crashes, new forum software, laziness, etc. But now the results reflecting the inclusion of the 2008 & 2009 seasons have been loaded into the system and are currently reflected in the new and improved status levels. A quick overview: 591 different players have now received points in at least one year. Our new “entry level” guy at #500 is now the immortal Pumpsie Green as more than a dozen players got drop-kicked out of the top 500 since our last update. So say so long to the likes of Kevin Bass, Tom Parsons, Danny Garcia, Bret Mayne (we’ll remember you), and also Jeff McKnight as the man of many numbers now has another one: #505 Other benchmarks include: #400 = Clint Hurdle #300 = Jim Fregosi #250 = Bob Johnson #200 = Todd Pratt #100 = Roger Cedeno Newbies to the list from last season include: Pat Misch at #483 Sean Green at #459 Alex Cora at #426 Bobby Parnell at #414 Fernando Nieve at 397 Livan Hernandez at #359 Nelson Figueroa at #305 Omir Santos at #293 Gary Sheffield at #244 Jeff Francoeur at #234 Francisco Rodriguez at #222 Other current players: Angel Pagan = #203 Fernando Tatis = #133 Daniel Murphy = #129 Mike Pelfrey = #120 Luis Castillo = #113 Pedro Feliciano = #91 Johan Santana = #72 John Maine = #65 Jose Reyes = #24 Carlos Beltran = #23 David Wright = #14 And in other terribly exciting news, Carlos Delgado gained just enough points in his abbreviated final NYM season to jump to 48th place thus solving what was probably the biggest comlaint we’ve had about this project for the last half-dozen years; Yes that’s right, Steve Trachsel is no longer part of the top 50. The equally popular George Foster now holds the fiinal spot.

Edgy MD May 18 2010 09:23 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

That's just great work. Unfortunately, we knocked a bunch of image links when we pasted in the data.

Frayed Knot May 18 2010 10:17 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Yeah I was going to ask whether the top-50 icons are not showing for everyone or just me. We should either figure out a way to fix those or kill them. They're distorting the screen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2010 07:54 AM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Must kill all status-image links now. I liked the idea but not the practice.

Edgy MD May 19 2010 07:56 AM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

I ain't got the time to pluck em out, but maybe the images can be killed in one swoop.

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2010 08:10 AM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

I might be able to do that, but not right now. Maybe I'll take a look tomorrow.

Edgy MD May 19 2010 06:40 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Which Hernandez is higher, El Duque or El Duquecito?

Gwreck May 19 2010 07:47 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Is the full list available?

Frayed Knot May 19 2010 09:38 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Which Hernandez is higher, El Duque or El Duquecito? Oh, O. Hernandez (#119) is MUCH higher than L. Hernandez (#359) Even with his lost final season, El Duque was a major player on two separate good teams while Livan snagged just 13 points (18th best player) on the 70-win 2009 club. Livan didn't reach the level of Roberto Hernandez (236), and of course none of them can touch long lost brother Keith (#12) Is the full list available? If someone (KC usually handles this) has the ability to turn a spreadsheet into a pdf file and has a place to store it I'll send them both the alpha & numeric versions.

G-Fafif May 20 2010 04:13 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Frayed Knot wrote: Which Hernandez is higher, El Duque or El Duquecito? Oh, O. Hernandez (#119) is MUCH higher than L. Hernandez (#359) Even with his lost final season, El Duque was a major player on two separate good teams while Livan snagged just 13 points (18th best player) on the 70-win 2009 club. Livan didn't reach the level of Roberto Hernandez (236), and of course none of them can touch long lost brother Keith (#12) Keith testified to how high he was in Pittsburgh in 1985. Less smart-aleckily, Keith is only No. 12? Eleven Mets rate over Keith Hernandez? As Keith would say when overtaken by a gust of disbelief, "My goodness."

Frayed Knot May 20 2010 05:38 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Well, as always, you have to take into account the totality of the player's NYM career and not just its peak(s). Keith's 'problem' (if you can call it that) is not only that everyone ahead of him lasted longer in a Met uni than he did but his seven seasons in blue and orange were somewhat watered down by his first one being a partial season and then the final two where he was rapidly fading into the sunset. That last season in particular killed him. With even a decent finish to his NYM career he's probably 6th or 7th. Keith is also still tops among those who lasted seven or fewer seasons (by a small margin over Leiter) although he's almost certain to lose that title to Wright after next year's vote.

d'Kong76 Jul 23 2010 03:01 PM Re: 2008/2009 Updates

Frayed Knot wrote: Which Hernandez is higher, El Duque or El Duquecito? Oh, O. Hernandez (#119) is MUCH higher than L. Hernandez (#359) Even with his lost final season, El Duque was a major player on two separate good teams while Livan snagged just 13 points (18th best player) on the 70-win 2009 club. Livan didn't reach the level of Roberto Hernandez (236), and of course none of them can touch long lost brother Keith (#12) Is the full list available? If someone (KC usually handles this) has the ability to turn a spreadsheet into a pdf file and has a place to store it I'll send them both the alpha & numeric versions. Apologies, I'm a little slow in seeing this ... feel free to send and I'll publish.