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Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded
Valadius May 21 2010 05:14 PM |
Roy Oswalt wants out of Houston because, let's face it, the Astros suck this year. The Mets seem like a great candidate to make a play for him, considering our desperate need at starting pitcher.
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Swan Swan H May 21 2010 05:18 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Offer them Ollie and GMJ, and maybe Omar can sweeten it from there.
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Kong76 May 21 2010 05:33 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Lol, no they don't seem that way at all. There's oil washing up on the shores of Louisiana, get back to work.
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metirish May 21 2010 05:39 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
He's owed $15 million....
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Ashie62 May 21 2010 05:52 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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and?...
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Rockin' Doc May 21 2010 07:34 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
before the Mets consider trading for Oswalt, Manuel wants to know if he can bunt.
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seawolf17 May 21 2010 07:41 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Led the league with 20 sacs in 2006. He's good to go.
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Edgy DC May 21 2010 08:40 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Hitting.
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Frayed Knot May 21 2010 08:55 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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$15 for this year + $16 for next + another $2 more if you don't want to pay him an additional $16 for 2012 So, figuring this year at approx 1/4 over, that's (.75x15)+16+2 or about $29.25 -- and that's if they go the cheap route and not pick up the option. You'd be getting a guy on the downside while still paying him for his slipping-into-the-past prime. He also has a no-trade deal so could pick and choose the clubs he wants and speculation has it that he's not a big city, east-coast kinda guy.
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G-Fafif May 21 2010 09:00 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Mets have 25 players, but I'm not convinced they have as many as 20 sacs.
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Ashie62 May 21 2010 09:05 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Bada-Bing!
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MFS62 May 22 2010 08:24 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
It would be nice to get a pitcher of his talent.
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bmfc1 May 22 2010 10:21 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Buster Olney writes today that it won't be easy for the Astros to trade Oswalt:
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Nymr83 May 22 2010 11:03 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
he'd be a huge help for the Mets, but what it would take to get him and whether he'd even want to be here are serious concerns.
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Rockin' Doc May 22 2010 11:06 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Yes. I seriously doubt it.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2010 05:59 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Not for nothing but we'd be crazy to cough up Mejia for Oswalt.
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Frayed Knot May 22 2010 06:07 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I agree.
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Benjamin Grimm May 22 2010 06:07 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I wouldn't do that either.
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Edgy DC May 22 2010 07:55 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
For Oswalt and $20 million.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2010 08:00 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Beltran for Oswalt. DO IT
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Frayed Knot May 22 2010 08:06 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
The odds of that being made are remote: lots of money, both have NT clauses, Beltran returning to the scene of his "crime" (leaving via FA), Oswalt reportedly not wanting NE cities, etc., but that's a helluva challenge trade.
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Nymr83 May 22 2010 10:48 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
i wouldnt do that one at all.
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Valadius May 22 2010 10:56 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
If Mejia can develop a third pitch, he'll be unstoppable for the next 7-10 years. He was throwing 98 mph tonight consistently.
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Rockin' Doc May 23 2010 08:27 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I forgot (or maybe didn't realize) just how young Mejia was. He is far too young to to mortgage his future for the immediate infusion Oswalt could provide to Mets rotation. So upon further reflection, I wish to rescind my willingness to trade Mejia and Holt for Oswalt.
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soupcan May 24 2010 02:20 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Steve Phillips on WFAN:
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metirish May 24 2010 02:22 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Yeah well, we've seen Steve's taste in youngsters .
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metsguyinmichigan May 24 2010 02:27 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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The reason, perhaps, that Steve Phillips hasn't had a GM's job since he was fired from the Mets nearly a decade ago.
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Nymr83 May 24 2010 02:28 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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I think he's wrong on both accounts there. As the Nats, I would NOT give up the top pitching prospect in baseball who i just drafted and signed to much fanfare and who is considered by almost everyone to be ready for the big leagues. As the Astros, I would accept Mejjia, who still needs work but has potential, because they are not going anywhere this year or next with that cast of players and Oswalt's expiration date is approaching.
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metirish May 24 2010 02:28 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Seriously though , if your a Nats fan and after reading and hearing all you have about this kid you'd flip if he was traded. As a mets fan I want to see him stay in the NL East .
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Edgy DC May 24 2010 02:35 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
As a Mets fan, I'm glad the Steve Phillips chapter is closed.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2010 02:36 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Are you Effing serious - he said that?!?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2010 02:50 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Yes, he did, FK. I forgot it was Phillips, and was briefly annoyed. Then I remembered, and I started laughing a little. Confession: I've been listening to the Phillips-on-Francesa stuff ever since... like those "You Are Not the Father" Maury shows, it's terrible for you and contributes to heart problems/brain rot, but sort of irresistible-in-small-doses.
James Lipton would call that "an absolute delight... a masterpiece to shame masterpieces." I call it "BOC."
As a Mets fan, I'd rather see him the once a year we do, say, Lincecum, and watch the rest of his dazzling starts from afar.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2010 03:02 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I don't know what to say - particularly seeing as how he's (at least in a theoretical sense) not only advocating dealing a guy who was the #1 pick in a draft not yet a year old but the #1 best prospect IN YEARS according to most, but is doing so in the name of the Washington Freakin Nationals as if their .500-ish start coming off two straight 100+ loss seasons means they're in a position where the addition of Oswalt puts them over the top.
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Centerfield May 24 2010 03:21 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Yes. Which is why we got as much for him as we did.
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G-Fafif May 24 2010 03:46 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I hope we get Oswalt for one reason: So he can go on Francesa's show and tell him, "It's OH-swalt, you dope. Not OZ-walt. I've been in the league for ten years, get it straight."
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Ashie62 May 24 2010 04:22 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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I've been waiting for Maine to develop a third pitch, and, uh,
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Edgy DC May 24 2010 05:25 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I can't think of anybody who's been unstoppable for 7-10 years at a run. Maddux? Seaver? Walter Johnson?
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Ashie62 May 24 2010 06:26 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Strasburg is going nowhere except to DC
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2010 07:03 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Lincecum's at 2 1/2 and counting. Pedro was close. Maddux? Koufax? Feller, around the war years? Mathewson?
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soupcan May 24 2010 08:14 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I've been unstoppable for going on 15 years now. Ask my wife - she'll vouch.
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Vince Coleman Firecracker May 25 2010 08:51 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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I'm sorry, i just thought this comment was really funny.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2010 09:27 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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"Hey there, beautiful. I'd trade David Wright for just one night with your sweet, sweet honey."
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MFS62 May 25 2010 09:31 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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I wonder if he would have traded John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander. Later
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metirish May 25 2010 09:39 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I caught the last 15 minutes or so of Phillips on with Francesa....I can't even remember what they were talking about now , what was funny though was the idiot callers calling up to praise Francesa for putting Phillips on his show, modest Mike took note to tell us that Steve through Mark Chernoff is now on in other cities as well...."and if I have played a part in that then good, he's got a lot of good things to say"....next caller called to complain about obstructed seats in the new ballparks.....a valid call....."I don't know what to tell ya....I'm not an architect , I don't know why they do it either"......it was the way he said it though....maybe the caller was surprised to hear Francesa admit to something like that..."whoa , you're not an architect?".
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MFS62 May 25 2010 09:57 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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That reminds me. Somebody should interview Jamie Moyer about what it was like to pitch against Walter Johnson. (Yes, that was me calling someone else old.) Later
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Willets Point May 27 2010 09:58 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Edgy DC May 27 2010 10:07 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Ned Garvin, male prostitute.
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MFS62 May 27 2010 10:16 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Man, that just gave me some old radio flashbacks. I remember when Mel Allen kept saying "Leroy" Face, when the best closer of that time's name was El Roy Face. He never got it right. And Stan Lomax, a fixture behind the WOR sports desk for many years would pronounce All-Star pitcher Cam -meel- ee-oh Pas-kwal as Cam-Ill-oh Pas-kul. Of course, these days we have Jon Miller constantly trying to proove that he can pronounce names correctly. He comes off as just constantly trying. Later
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 28 2010 02:08 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Say whatever else you will about Steve Phillips: the man sticks to his guns.
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Rockin' Doc May 28 2010 07:12 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
I wouldn't trade Strasbourg for Oswalt, but I must admit that some of what Phillips says makes sense. I think he is right when he asserts that proven talent is more valuable than a prospect's potential for a team that thinks it can win NOW. I also agree with him that the Nationals need more than Oswalt to be a playoff team this year. That's why it would be crazy for the Nationals to trade Strasbourg for virtually anyone at this time, but from the Astros perspective it would be a good deal to make.
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bmfc1 May 28 2010 07:58 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
"I think he is right when he asserts that proven talent is more valuable than a prospect's potential for a team that thinks it can win NOW."
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Edgy DC May 28 2010 08:02 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
First of all, Steve Phillips deserves the fall he got, but seeing him trying to maintain his dignity while chatting on that cheesey-assed set almost breaks my heart.
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Frayed Knot May 28 2010 08:12 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
First of all, who knew there was such a thing as 'Fanhouse TV'?
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Rockin' Doc May 28 2010 09:38 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
Edgy DC- "The issue is this "ace," with this salary, for this "unproven commodity." By not speaking more to the specific case, he's either being dishonest or intellectually lazy. He goes into that later, when speaking about other teams, but never mentions that he said the Mets shouldn't trade Mejia."
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Edgy DC May 28 2010 09:43 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
You right.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 28 2010 11:51 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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As far as I'm concerned, mortgaging your future for the promise of a playoff spot is never a prudent move. [See: Zambrano-Kazmir, the premise.] To upgrade an already-formidable contender-- "load the battleship," say, rather than "arming the rowboat"? That's another story. Although... depending on how confident I am in Mejia's/Thole's chances, and if I'm a bigger fan of next year's presumed draft class, I might be more willing to take on a Lee, who'll either stick around after year's end for market cost or yield draft picks when/if he signs elsewhere.
Exactly. I don't feel bad for Steve Phillips one bit. He's had opportunities, and squandered them all, bringing many people down with him.
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Frayed Knot May 28 2010 01:14 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
In all, I think this should be the basis for future team prez/owners when evaluating possible GM candidates: Would you ever, or under what circumstances would you, trade a Steven Strasburg?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2010 11:15 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Zvon Jun 14 2010 01:36 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
"veteran fiber"?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2010 01:59 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2010 02:48 PM |
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Y'know, the kind that's gotten stuck up in you for a while, so's even a high-colonic can't get it out of there easily. Really, though... I have no idea what that means. The team is significantly younger than it used to be.
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Zvon Jun 14 2010 02:16 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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I think he means we are playing like a well honed team of veterans. Stop it Roy, ya short shit. You're making me feel all giddy. PS: we don't need what you got at that price, tyvm.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2010 04:07 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
It' not my money..
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2010 07:12 PM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
When we advocate, we may want to think that, in a sense, it is our money. Because there's a finite amount of it to be spent on a product that is meant to advance our alleged interests.
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Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 08:05 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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Since the callup:
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Ceetar Jun 29 2010 08:16 AM Re: Roy Oswalt: I Want To Be Traded |
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So what you're saying is we should trade for Strasburg? I'm in.
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