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All-Time National League East Team: The Right Fielder


Bobby Abreu, PHI 1 votes

Bobby Bonilla, PIT/NYM/FLA/ATL 1 votes

Roberto Clemente, PIT 9 votes

Jim Eisenreich, PHI/FLA 0 votes

Juan Encarnacion, FLA 0 votes

Jeff Francoeur, ATL/NYM 0 votes

Vladimir Guerrero, MON 16 votes

George Hendrick, STL 0 votes

Jeremy Hermida, FLA 0 votes

Jim Hickman, CHI/STL 0 votes

Brian Jordan, STL/ATL 0 votes

Dave Justice, ATL 0 votes

Austin Kearns, WAS 0 votes

Mark Kotsay, FLA 0 votes

Bake McBride, STL/PHI 0 votes

Jerry Morales, CHI/NYM 0 votes

Keith Moreland, PHI/CHI 0 votes

Bobby Murcer, CHI 0 votes

Dave Parker, PIT 10 votes

Gary Sheffield, FLA/ATL/NYM 0 votes

Ken Singleton, NYM/MON 0 votes

Reggie Smith, STL 0 votes

Rusty Staub, MON/NYM 1 votes

Darryl Strawberry, NYM 14 votes

Ron Swoboda, NYM/MON 0 votes

Ellis Valentine, MON/NYM 0 votes

Larry Walker, ON 2 votes

Glenn Wilson, PHI 0 votes

Joel Youngblood, NYM/MON 0 votes

G-Fafif
May 28 2010 12:51 PM

Around in right, pick a couple of guys who played in the N.L. East for what they did as N.L. Easterners.

Willets Point
May 28 2010 12:59 PM
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Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario.

/ducks

G-Fafif
May 28 2010 01:01 PM
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Willets Point wrote:
Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario.

/ducks


/flings shoe

Swan Swan H
May 28 2010 01:06 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Willets Point wrote:
Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario.

/ducks


/flings shoe


Is Flings Shoe anywhere near Flin Flon?

Zvon
May 28 2010 01:06 PM
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This was easier than I would have figured, because I already decided the Phils
would no longer get any of my votes, esp if there was a worthy Met up there.
Abreu was a very consistant player.

Clemente and the Strawman.

Nymr83
May 28 2010 01:10 PM
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Zvon wrote:

Clemente and the Strawman.


same here

Zvon
May 28 2010 01:17 PM
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I'd have to look at Parker's numbers but I'm doin my

so I won't.

He was a formidable opponent


....and, oh, what an arm.

G-Fafif
May 28 2010 01:25 PM
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Surprised that thus far I am alone in my love for Vlad. Even with his free-swinging ways, the man personified danger when he stepped to the plate in an Expos uniform. Not that others here didn't do the same in their own uniforms, but Guerrero stands out for me with Clemente, a shade above Parker.

Hope Darryl doesn't stop by my desk and yell at me.

Edgy DC
May 28 2010 01:34 PM
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If we're only taking the last four years of Clemente's career --- as I understand we are --- we're getting four great years, but pretty much analogous to Dave Parker's 1975-1979 peak. But we still have eight more years of Parkerness to add in.

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2010 01:36 PM
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I voted for Parker and Guerrero. I would have voted for Clemente, but, as Edgy noted, we're only looking at four years of his career.

G-Fafif
May 28 2010 01:58 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
If we're only taking the last four years of Clemente's career --- as I understand we are --- we're getting four great years, but pretty much analogous to Dave Parker's 1975-1979 peak. But we still have eight more years of Parkerness to add in.


Roberto left a huge, Parker-sized impression on me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 28 2010 03:23 PM
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Vladdy and Straw.

But man, are there some nasty hitters in here. Sheff's a medal contender for me, along with Clemente and Parker.

batmagadanleadoff
May 28 2010 04:23 PM
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I had Abreu and Parker, but then revised my vote by swapping Strawberry (in) for Parker (out), and then finally, Vlad (in) for Strawberry (out).

Rockin' Doc
May 28 2010 06:40 PM
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Vlad was bad. Vlad was a star stuck in a vortex of suck that was the Expos.

Strawberry was spectacular during his time with the Mets.

Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.

batmagadanleadoff
May 28 2010 06:51 PM
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Rockin' Doc wrote:
Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.


I don't see what the technicality is. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Honus Wagner at shortstop and Stan Musial at first base.

Nymr83
May 28 2010 06:55 PM
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i pulled clemente for vlad, these years in the east are killing me

Ashie62
May 28 2010 07:21 PM
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Vlad & Clemente

Rockin' Doc
May 28 2010 07:30 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Rockin' Doc wrote:
Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.


I don't see what the technicality is. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Honus Wagner at shortstop and Stan Musial at first base.


Okay, I admit that technicality was a poor choice of words. You're right, the task was not to rate their overall career, just their time in the NL East. I initially voted for Clemente and Vlad. Then I realized that as great as he was, Clemente only played the last few years of his HOF career in the NL East since the majority of his career preceeded the formation of divisions.

I really liked Strawberry and he was very good during his time with the Mets, but his career does not stack up to those of Clemente or Guerrero. I don't believe Strawberry's career really stacks up very well against that of Andre Dawson or Larry Walker. However, Strawberry ends up ahead of both of them and Clemente because their years as outstanding right fielders fell outside the NL East.

I guess that when I look at the names on that list, my initial impression is that Strawberry is the 4th or 5th best of the group, but after I weed through their production during the time they played within the NL East he jumps up to number two. I think I was getting frustrated whittling career down only to the time spent in the NL East.

sharpie
May 29 2010 04:27 PM
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Kinda surprised Hank Aaron doesn't make the cut.

Willets Point
May 29 2010 06:18 PM
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sharpie wrote:
Kinda surprised Hank Aaron doesn't make the cut.


Aaron played on the Braves when they were inexplicably in the NL West.

sharpie
May 30 2010 10:04 AM
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Of course.