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All-Time National League East Team: The LHP
| Steve Carlton, STL/PHI | 20 votes |
| John Candelaria, PIT/NYM | 0 votes |
| Don Carman, PHI | 0 votes |
| Jeff Fassero, MON | 0 votes |
| Sid Fernandez, NYM | 0 votes |
| Tom Glavine, ATL/NYM | 16 votes |
| Cole Hamels, PHI | 0 votes |
| Ken Holtzman, CHI | 0 votes |
| Jerry Koosman, NYM/PHI | 4 votes |
| Al Leiter, FLA/NYM | 0 votes |
| Joe Magrane, STL | 0 votes |
| Jon Matlack, NYM | 0 votes |
| Jamie Moyer, CHI/PHI | 0 votes |
| Terry Mulholland, PHI/ATL | 0 votes |
| Scott Olsen, FLA/WAS | 0 votes |
| Shane Rawley, PHI | 0 votes |
| Jerry Reuss, STL/PIT | 0 votes |
| Jim Rooker, PIT | 0 votes |
| Bruce Ruffin, PHI | 0 votes |
| Johan Santana, NYM | 1 votes |
| John Smiley, PIT | 0 votes |
| Zane Smith, MON/PIT | 0 votes |
| Randy Tomlin, PIT | 0 votes |
| Steve Trout, CHI | 0 votes |
| John Tudor, STL | 0 votes |
| Dontrelle Willis, FLA | 0 votes |
| Randy Wolf, PHI | 0 votes |
| G-Fafif May 29 2010 12:55 AM |
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Southpaws from the East. Choose two to fill out our rotation.
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| Nymr83 May 29 2010 01:36 AM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Carlton/Glavine in what was the toughest poll yet.
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| Benjamin Grimm May 29 2010 04:18 AM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Carlton and Glavine. If I had a third vote, it would have gone to Koosman.
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| Ashie62 May 29 2010 08:44 AM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Glavine over Koosman?
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| Valadius May 29 2010 09:35 AM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Carlton and Glavine. Not even close.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 29 2010 10:31 AM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Same. But my finger wavered over John Tudor for a bit, too-- 2.52 ERA, 147 ERA+ over 5 seasons with the Cards, with a serviceable Pirate year in there, too. And that 1985... he was the first pitcher I remember being scared of as an opponent. If not for Doc, that's an open-and-shut Cy.
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| Ashie62 May 29 2010 01:04 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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If you had to pick Glavine or Koosman to pitch the big one for you who would you pick?
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| Gwreck May 29 2010 01:06 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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I'd probably go with the Tom Glavine of 1992-96. Remember that 1-0 shutout in the World Series?
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| Ashie62 May 29 2010 01:10 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Fair enough, I'm going with a Koosman that is throwing high and tight with an attitude.
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| Benjamin Grimm May 29 2010 01:58 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Different era, though.
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| Ashie62 May 29 2010 02:28 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Makes no difference. Koosman beats him there
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| Nymr83 May 29 2010 02:51 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Glavine gets overshadowed by Maddux, but he won 2 CYAs, finished 2nd twice more, and 3rd twice as well. Koosman was 2nd once. Glavine's ERA+ is 8 points better for his career and his peak was alot higher too, he had twice as many season with an ERA+ over 125 (10 to 5). Koosman was a very good pitcher but Glavine is great and will rightfully go into the HOF. Also, Glavine spent his entire career in the NL East, once you take out Koosman's time elsewhere this already lopsided comparison becomes non-existant.
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| G-Fafif May 29 2010 02:54 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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Actually, Glavine was in the N.L. West from 1987 through 1993, which includes his first Cy Young season.
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| Nymr83 May 29 2010 03:58 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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yes you're right, so Koosman's career numbers are at least in the same cobversation as Glavine's NL East-only numbers. Now lets take MIN out.
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| MFS62 May 30 2010 03:39 PM Re: All-Time National League East Team: The LHP |
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They didn't call Carlton "Lefty" for nuthin'.
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