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Jim Tracy Gone (and Jim Tracy Back Again!)
Edgy DC Oct 03 2005 11:06 PM Jim Tracy Gone |
Why, yes! I do see Bobby Valentine returning to Los Angeles. Thank you for asking.
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Valadius Oct 03 2005 11:09 PM |
Tommy Lasorda's on the cross-Pacific wire with his good buddy, one would bet.
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Edgy DC Oct 03 2005 11:15 PM |
And thought it would be bad
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metirish Oct 03 2005 11:15 PM |
Talk was that ownership wants Dusty Baker, although that's old talk, Trammell got fired from the Tigers as well.
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Edgy DC Oct 03 2005 11:27 PM |
Wow. Not too fair.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 04 2005 08:58 AM |
I read in the Philadelphia Inquirer that our old friend Juan Samuel is among those being considered for the Tigers job.
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Elster88 Oct 04 2005 09:28 AM |
Juan Samuel is not my friend. I like him less than any other Met in history. And it's not even his fault. He didn't do anything. I'm just crazy.
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Frayed Knot Oct 04 2005 03:11 PM |
Maybe Juan was just the token minority consideration:
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Edgy DC Oct 04 2005 03:14 PM |
That was a quick interview process.
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metirish Oct 04 2005 03:24 PM |
I've no problem with Dombrowski hiring who he thinks is the best man for the job, the process stinks though, Juan was part of Trammells staff, he gets an interview, Dumbrowski calls Leyalnd Monday and he's hired Tuesday, you think Samuel was wasting his time?
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TheOldMole Oct 04 2005 09:01 PM |
Less than Mike Hampton?
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Willets Point Oct 05 2005 11:24 AM |
Ms. Tiger on Trammel firing: "Wah!" (actual quote)
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Edgy DC Oct 05 2005 11:27 AM |
The first crisis of your marriage.
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Frayed Knot Oct 05 2005 01:57 PM |
Texas GM John Hart also "resigned" yesterday.
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willpie Oct 05 2005 03:41 PM |
What'd Trammell do wrong? He took a really shitty team and turned it into a darn mediocre team. Sounds like progress to me.
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Valadius Oct 05 2005 06:11 PM |
Ken Macha is now done in Oakland.
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Edgy DC Oct 05 2005 08:37 PM |
BRING BACK HOWE!
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 06 2005 01:56 PM |
"I want rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con-men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglars, horse thieves, bull-dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shitkickers, and Methodists!"
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Frayed Knot Oct 06 2005 03:30 PM |
The Marlins have received permission to talk to Joe Girardi, and I suspect the D-Rays may be close behind them in asking.
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DocTee Oct 06 2005 08:44 PM |
Bay Area scuttlebutt has A's Bullpen coach (and longtime--since they were etenagers in San Diego-- Billy Beane friend) Bob Geren to be the frontrunner to replace Macha.
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sharpie Oct 07 2005 10:47 AM |
On ESPN last night they thought Tracy would get the Pittsburg job.
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Frayed Knot Oct 09 2005 11:51 AM |
Joe Girardi will indeed interview for the Tampa job as well as the Marlins (he's already talked to the fish and is scheduled to again).
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metirish Oct 10 2005 04:22 PM |
Ed Wade gone as the Phillies GM, Larry Bowa was on the FAN talking about the palyoffs and when asked about Wade said that Cashman was the name being mentioned down there.
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metirish Oct 10 2005 04:27 PM |
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Oh I don't think that would be a good fit,hasn't the new owner has hired a few Harvard guys to run things?, I just don't see Bobby working with guys like that.
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Valadius Oct 10 2005 05:03 PM |
My dad knows the new owner. I'll ask him.
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metirish Oct 10 2005 11:09 PM |
Yeah Val make yerself useful and do that, finaly someone on the "inside" with a contact, except it's with the freaking Devil Rays...Val can you find out what they want for Baez?
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smg58 Oct 10 2005 11:30 PM |
I think they asked for Milledge and/or Petit in July. The price may go down this coming July, because this is his out year, but I wouldn't blame them for demanding a lot for players they still control, and for getting the most out of their good players while they have them unless somebody makes them an offer they can't refuse. The strategy did get them Kazmir. However, at some point they really do have to spend some money...
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metirish Oct 11 2005 12:42 PM |
Tracy hired by the Pirates.
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Edgy DC Oct 11 2005 12:49 PM |
Jim Tracy, new manager of your Pittsburgh Pirates.
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Valadius Oct 11 2005 02:52 PM |
I DO know that Stu Sternberg, the new owner of the Devil Rays, is very serious about moving the team to Las Vegas if Tampa doesn't help him build this enormous complex. I forget if it includes a new stadium or not. I'll have to probe my dad for info on specific players, though. My dad knows him from work. Sternberg and a whole bunch of his friends from work all retired at the same time and got a ton of money, which they used on the D-Rays. My dad wasn't one of them, and I did yell at him when all this was going on for not even being the tiniest bit involved, but he does know a lot of people in that ownership group.
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metirish Oct 11 2005 09:37 PM |
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Paul DePodesta has four finalists that will interview for the Dodger job
No Bobby V?, his team is in the Playoffs in Japan.
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Frayed Knot Oct 11 2005 11:20 PM |
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And speculation was dead on in this case: Flanagan kicked upstairs, Beattie out. Supposedly this also that means Perlozzo's job as field manager is safe. No word on whether (or who) someone gets the GM job to presumably work under Flanagan.
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DocTee Oct 11 2005 11:25 PM |
Specualtion in the Bay Area is that A's third-base coach Ron Washington is secret fifth candidate-- makes sense since DePodesta was an assistant to Billy Beane and knows RW from their days together in Oakland. Washington certainly fits the profile of "employed by team not in playoffs" and should he be passed over (again) in Oakland, he may want to bolt.
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Edgy DC Oct 11 2005 11:27 PM |
The O's are to GM-types as the Yankees are to lefthanded hitting designated hitter-types. There's always room for one more in the organization.
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Valadius Oct 14 2005 02:23 PM |
The secret fifth person has been identified as Ron Wotus, the Giants' bench coach.
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Valadius Oct 14 2005 03:24 PM |
And Ken Macha has been rehired after all in Oakland.
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sharpie Oct 14 2005 03:44 PM |
Valadius, tell your dad to tell his friends to give us back Kazmir.
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Valadius Oct 14 2005 04:27 PM |
Tampa Bay's front office is pretty much shut down right now. Sternberg fired Chuck LaMar and his two assistants. They have to hire their replacements before serious baseball moves will be made.
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SwitchHitter Oct 14 2005 08:33 PM |
Leave Kazmir there. He's a local boy and all, but I don't want my team facing him if there's an option to face someone crappy instead.
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sharpie Oct 19 2005 03:39 PM |
Marlins are announcing tonight that Joe Girardi is their new manager.
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metirish Oct 19 2005 03:50 PM |
It's amazing, Girardi is in coaching a year and gets a job, WWSB was coaching more that a dozen years before landing a gig...
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MFS62 Oct 19 2005 03:50 PM |
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What about someone with the DTs who works in a nitro glycerine plant? Yesterday, I heard on sportstalk radio (forget which station) that Joe may receive offers from two teams (one being Florida). The host mentioned that this is rare for someone with no prior managing experience to receive two offers the first time they went after a managerial spot. I've heard Joe when he did some color on tv games. He was not only well spoken, but came across as someone who is always well prepared. I guess the GMs felt the same way. Later
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sharpie Oct 19 2005 04:55 PM |
Next season will be the 14th Marlins season. Managers:
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Edgy DC Oct 31 2005 09:18 PM |
Boom, crash, Theo is [url=http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051031&content_id=1262921&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb][u:972a76b8f6]free-o[/u:972a76b8f6][/url].
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Willets Point Oct 31 2005 09:21 PM |
No more free Red Sox games for Bret.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 31 2005 10:22 PM |
Holy crap.
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mlbaseballtalk Oct 31 2005 10:33 PM |
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I ought to put this in the Sports Radio Host thread, but this really was a cause of some concern among certain hosts coughstevenasmithcough and callers cougheliinwestchestercough who brought up how WWSB was constantly turned down for jobs Thing is 1) The skinny on Giradi was that he'd be the type who could manage someday, catchers generally are while the only outward thing that made Randolph "managing material" was the fact that he was the Yankee co-captain for a couple of years (he and Guidry were tabbed captians after Nettles was traded) 2) Does it say more about Girardi wanting to jump at the first offer while Randolph was disgusted about the Reds job a couple of years back (Reds gave him a very lowball offer)? The knock also was that Randolph "didn't interview" well. Maybe part of his makeup is he gave off the impression that he didn't want to leave the coccoon of New York
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Spacemans Bong Oct 31 2005 10:41 PM |
Randolph was not interested in managing in the minors.
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Nymr83 Oct 31 2005 10:44 PM |
maybe Depodesta and Epstein can switch jobs now?
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metirish Oct 31 2005 11:05 PM |
WOW, that's a shocker for the Sox, I doubt LA would want him, I read today that they are going to interview Pat Gillick and Ed Wade....damn the Sox are imploding, amazing stuff.
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Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 09:51 AM |
Girardi being a catcher makes him better managerial material?
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smg58 Nov 01 2005 10:20 AM |
Epstein might not have been perfect, but I don't see why putting a World Series winner on the field in Boston didn't earn him more respect from his own front office. They offered a lot more money to Beane, who still hasn't produced a team that's won a playoff series. Granted there's a huge payroll difference, but THE RED SOX WON A WORLD SERIES on Epstein's watch. I don't get this one at all.
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Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 10:27 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2005 02:39 PM |
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I learned a lot here. A lot more corner outfielders than I realized are in managing --- many of them people of color, some of whom started their careers under less than ideal circumstances. Even cutting that category in half, as it represents two positions, still makes it the second-largest category. No centerfielders seem to get the not, though (although you could certainly count Mazzilli). I speculate that they are so oft considered to be fine athletes, that their baseball minds aren't respected, even if they should be.
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metirish Nov 01 2005 10:31 AM |
That is amazing, you never hear about corner outfielders when people talk about this stuff....I guess first basemen are not considered managerial material.
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rpackrat Nov 01 2005 02:28 PM |
Not that it affects your point, but Mike Hargrove played substantially more at 1B (1378 games) than he did in the OF (167 games).
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Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 02:37 PM |
Of course. Don't know why I did that. Allow me to edit.
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Frayed Knot Nov 01 2005 02:55 PM |
Also consider that there are twice as many starting corner OFers as there are catchers (and OFers in general over catchers at about a 5/2 ratio) so that backstops are still the most likely types to jump on the managerial track.
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Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 03:01 PM |
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As I wrote:
And these are guys who never (or almost never) played center. Full time centerfielders and part-time centerfielders are in a different category elsewher on the list. So the typical ratio would be closer to 3:2 than 5:2.
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sharpie Nov 01 2005 03:21 PM |
No pitchers, either.
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Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 05:09 PM |
So, what, you think Epstein is going to Philadelphia?
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Frayed Knot Nov 01 2005 10:57 PM |
Nope, Pat Gillick goes to Philly where conventional wisdom had Gerry Hunsicker as the front runner.
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metirish Nov 05 2005 11:24 PM |
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It seems not many people want the Dodgers GM job but that could be good for Kim Ng..do I remember correctly that Duke wanted to bring her to the Mets a few years back, wasn't this the same person that one of the Mets "super scouts" insulted the year before?
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Edgy DC Nov 05 2005 11:38 PM |
Milton Bradley, future Washington National. You heard it here first.
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metirish Nov 07 2005 11:48 AM |
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WOW the Dodgers are a mess, what was once not long ago a model franchise is now a complete mess....
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Yancy Street Gang Nov 07 2005 11:52 AM |
Kim Ng, of course, has a small role of her own in the history of the Mets. A no-prize to the first person to remember what that role was.
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metirish Nov 07 2005 11:54 AM |
Yeah I mentioned it a few posts above this one...
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Valadius Nov 07 2005 11:55 AM |
Was it Bill Singer who made those comments about her? Goldis' partner in crime?
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Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:02 PM |
What crime did they partner in?
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Valadius Nov 07 2005 12:03 PM |
Well they WERE hired at the same time... I remember reading an article at some point about them.
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Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:05 PM |
God help me if I get listed as a partner in crime with anybody I've been hired at the same time as.
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metirish Nov 09 2005 10:36 AM |
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Now this would be interesting if it ever happened...
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sharpie Nov 10 2005 11:06 AM |
Bobby Valentine to sign extension with Chiba Lotte
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Edgy DC Nov 13 2005 10:39 PM |
Well, that whole Valentine to Tampa Bay scenario didn't quite play out.
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metirish Nov 13 2005 11:05 PM |
No need for Bobby to come back, he signed a 4 year $16 million contract with Chiba, he has never been as popular, and he was smart enough to see that a dream job like the Dodgers was a no go with the mess they are with the McCourts..
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MFS62 Nov 14 2005 07:59 AM |
The Booby V story confirmed in today's Norwalk Advocate. See the link I posted in the Rico Brogna thread.
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Edgy DC Nov 16 2005 08:03 AM |
Ned Colletti, Giants asstant GM since 1997, is the new Dodger GM.
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Valadius Nov 28 2005 11:00 PM |
Our own Manny Acta has been given permission to interview for the Dodgers' managerial opening.
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