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Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Valadius Jun 02 2010 05:57 PM

Flashing across the wires now. Hell of a career, sure-fire Hall-of-Famer, possibly best of his generation, would have been one for the ages had he not been hurt so much in the '00s. Seattle Mariners manager Don Wakamatsu says Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring. Wakamatsu made the announcement before Wednesday night's game against Minnesota. Griffey's retirement is effective immediately. The 40-year-old Griffey was one of baseball's greatest players before injuries began to take their toll. The perennial All-Star outfielder ranks fifth on the career home run list with 630. Griffey was hitting only .184 this season and recently went a week without playing.

Nymr83 Jun 02 2010 06:03 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 02 2010 06:04 PM

they just said this on the Mets' broadcast. Griffey played 22 years and punched his hall of fame ticket in Seattle by age 29, after that he was just hurt alot. my table-posting abilities suck but check out the first and second halves of his career on BR, its just shocking

seawolf17 Jun 02 2010 06:04 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Always thought he would have wound up at Shea at some point. What a great talent and ambassador for baseball. Congrats on a heck of a career, Junior.

Valadius Jun 02 2010 06:14 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Here's a question: who becomes the first player inducted into the Hall of Fame as a Mariner, Griffey or Edgar Martinez? Or does Randy Johnson make it in as a Mariner and not a Diamondback?

seawolf17 Jun 02 2010 06:17 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Griffey. Edgar's never going to get 75% of the vote. (But that's an argument for another thread.)

Nymr83 Jun 02 2010 07:07 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

griffey's already low-key retirement has been overshadowed on baseball tonight and sportscenter, sorry ken. you deserve better

seawolf17 Jun 02 2010 07:19 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Nymr83 wrote: griffey's already low-key retirement has been overshadowed on baseball tonight and sportscenter, sorry ken. you deserve better Jim Joyce has always said he hated the Griffeys.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 02 2010 07:24 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Cap tipped to Junior. 630 homers and never a hint of roid-dum.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 02 2010 07:35 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Cap tipped to Junior. 630 homers and never a hint of roid-dum. Don't be the Naiive Guy.

Valadius Jun 02 2010 07:37 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Griffey's the one star I'm positive never touched the stuff.

seawolf17 Jun 02 2010 07:38 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Cap tipped to Junior. 630 homers and never a hint of roid-dum. Don't be the Naiive Guy. Too bad they started all this "get rid of PEDs" stuff right when his body broke down for real, whereas Bonds got to keep going until he was in his mid-40s.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 02 2010 07:38 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

You people and your trusting hearts. A journalist and a Washington guy no less.

Edgy DC Jun 02 2010 07:41 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Valadius wrote: Griffey's the one star I'm positive never touched the stuff. I'm not sure I'm even 100% positive about Charlie Brown.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 02 2010 07:56 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Griffey, Frank Thomas and every Met. Clean as the driven snow. Jeter, meanwhile, I'm convinced, has the freaking things for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I live in a happy little world.

metirish Jun 02 2010 08:11 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Michael Kay " Griffey had a chance to come to the yankees and turned it down, in my eyes that makes him a loser"

seawolf17 Jun 02 2010 08:14 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

metirish wrote: Michael Kay " Griffey had a chance to come to the yankees and turned it down, in my eyes that makes him a loser" I would almost believe he said that.

Rockin' Doc Jun 02 2010 08:29 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Ken Griffey, Jr's name and face is recognised by baseball fans throughout America. Michael Kay is recognised by few outside of YLDB fans. Ken Griffey, Jr. is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Michael Kay pays admission to get into the Hall of Fame. Ken Griffey, Jr. will be immortalized as one of the greats of the game. Michael Kay is immortalized only in his own mind.

Valadius Jun 02 2010 10:04 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Remember the trade? Benitez, Cedeno, and Dotel for Griffey. Knowing what we all know now, would you have made that trade?

G-Fafif Jun 02 2010 10:23 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

griffey's already low-key retirement has been overshadowed on baseball tonight and sportscenter, sorry ken. you deserve better An inversion of a similar retirement vs. incredible feat episode: Then there was June 3, 1932, when Gehrig gave his finest individual performance, becoming the first player this century to hit four home runs in a game. Again, he was overshadowed. The bigger story in New York that day was that the legendary John McGraw, in his 31st year as Giants manager, had resigned.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jun 02 2010 10:41 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Just because, here's fangraph's WAR graph comparison between Griffey, Mantle, Mays and Dimaggio: [url]http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?playerid2=327&playerid3=1008315&playerid4=1008082&playerid5=1003311 And here's one of Griffey with some contemporary centerfielders (Edmonds, Lofton & Andruw Jones): [url]http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?playerid2=327&playerid3=96&playerid4=246&playerid5=1153 He was clearly the best centerfielder of his time, and, as late as age 29, he was the second best of the Mays/Dimaggio/Mantle/Griffey group. And then he was replacement-level for the better part of a decade. Crazy stuff.

TransMonk Jun 03 2010 07:42 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Valadius wrote: Remember the trade? Benitez, Cedeno, and Dotel for Griffey. Knowing what we all know now, would you have made that trade? Knowing what we know now, I'm not sure I know anyone who would have made that trade.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 03 2010 07:47 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Did you hear about the one about the guy hit 56 homers in 1997 and 1998 and was Alex Rodriguez' teammate, and spent a decade nursing muscle/tendon injuries, and was never suspected of juicing? Yeah, it's a good one.

MFS62 Jun 03 2010 07:50 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

To NL fans on the East Coast, he was like world peace. He was the ideal that we heard about, but never got to experience as much as we would have liked. Later

metirish Jun 03 2010 07:52 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Did you hear about the one about the guy hit 56 homers in 1997 and 1998 and was Alex Rodriguez' teammate, and spent a decade nursing muscle/tendon injuries, and was never suspected of juicing? Yeah, it's a good one. But that nice smile makes at all OK.

Centerfield Jun 03 2010 08:41 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Edgy DC wrote: Valadius wrote: Griffey's the one star I'm positive never touched the stuff. I'm not sure I'm even 100% positive about Charlie Brown. Look at the size of that head. Guy is clearly juicing.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 03 2010 09:10 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Centerfield wrote: Look at the size of that head. Guy is clearly juicing. You can tell that's late Schulz; look how wobbly the outline is.

Gwreck Jun 03 2010 09:17 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

MFS62 wrote: To NL fans on the East Coast, he was like world peace. He was the ideal that we heard about, but never got to experience as much as we would have liked. Griffey hit only six of his 630 homers against the Mets; the only teams against which he hit fewer were the Phillies (4) and the Mariners (3). Can you name the Mets pitchers who gave them up? April 27, 2000 at Shea: September 4, 2000 at Riverfront: September 6, 2000 at Riverfront: July 28, 2002 at Shea: May 18, 2005 at Shea: June 19, 2006 at Shea:

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 03 2010 09:23 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Gwreck wrote: To NL fans on the East Coast, he was like world peace. He was the ideal that we heard about, but never got to experience as much as we would have liked. Griffey hit only six of his 630 homers against the Mets; the only teams against which he hit fewer were the Phillies (4) and the Mariners (3). Can you name the Mets pitchers who gave them up? April 27, 2000 at Shea: September 4, 2000 at Riverfront: September 6, 2000 at Riverfront: July 28, 2002 at Shea: May 18, 2005 at Shea: June 19, 2006 at Shea: My guesses (in oder) Reed Leiter Jones Astacio Benson Pedro

Gwreck Jun 03 2010 09:45 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Leiter and Jones are right. April 27, 2000 at Shea: September 4, 2000 at Riverfront: Leiter September 6, 2000 at Riverfront: Jones July 28, 2002 at Shea: May 18, 2005 at Shea: June 19, 2006 at Shea:

Edgy DC Jun 03 2010 09:49 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

D'Amico Looper El Duque

Gwreck Jun 03 2010 09:56 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

April 27, 2000 at Shea: September 4, 2000 at Riverfront: Leiter - JCL September 6, 2000 at Riverfront: Jones - JCL July 28, 2002 at Shea: May 18, 2005 at Shea: June 19, 2006 at Shea: Orlando Hernandez - Edgy That's 3.

Willets Point Jun 03 2010 10:01 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

2005: Glavine.

DocTee Jun 03 2010 10:31 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Put me down on the JCL juicing bandwagon. I think he was a sham. I remember after the M's signed him to a big contract, there was a press conference and he wouldn't put the team hat on (his Nike one? sure. His team one, not so much)...some rep had to hold one if front of the podium while he addressed the media. Stay classy, Kid.

Centerfield Jun 03 2010 10:51 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

I don't think we should start turning this into a witch hunt and make unfounded accusations of juicing, but I don't think we should simply label someone as "clean" because he smiles a lot and broke down. I imagine if Pettite didn't shop up on the Mitchell Report, he would be one of those guys you could bet your life was as clean as a whistle.

Valadius Jun 03 2010 12:48 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

Centerfield wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Valadius wrote: Griffey's the one star I'm positive never touched the stuff. I'm not sure I'm even 100% positive about Charlie Brown. Look at the size of that head. Guy is clearly juicing. You would say that, Snoopy at the bat.

Zvon Jun 03 2010 01:18 PM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

I'll remember him as clean. I'll always say when I tell stories of these days that he may have been the only clean player to rise to such heights. This kid was blessed, we all knew it. All he knew was that he was being payed to play the game he loved. I imagine that the perfect blunder yesterday taking the headlines made him smile, like so many things did. A pleasure and honor seeing you play Mr. Griffey Jr.

metirish Jun 05 2010 07:19 AM Re: Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring

He's clean as the driven snow....says Ken Rosenthal... http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Ken- ... ing-clean- it reads as almost more hopeful than anything else.