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metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 01:49 PM

From multiple tweets.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 01:50 PM
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Designated for assignment. Omir Santos is in the clubhouse.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2010 01:50 PM
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OMIR?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 04 2010 01:51 PM
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If the Phils had just waited one more day, they could have had him one injury away from striking out nightly in front of dad. (Instead, they decided to dicker with Willy.)

OMIR?

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 01:52 PM
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Does Omir play CF --- or does this telegraph that another move is on the way?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2010 01:52 PM
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One of the catchers must be hurting. Or a 40-thing?

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 01:53 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Does Omir play CF --- or does this telegraph that another move is on the way?

My guess would be the latter, because the former doesn't work.

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 01:53 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
One of the catchers must be hurting. Or a 40-thing?

A possible trade looming?

metirish
Jun 04 2010 01:53 PM
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No need for a "memories of " thread , move along , nothing to see at all.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 01:54 PM
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Frees up Rod to pinch-hit in the games where Blanco catches -- and allows him to DH in the upcoming interleague games in AL parks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2010 01:56 PM
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The Mets would never do something like trade one of their catchers in the middle of the year, unless it's Castro, of course. Is there a club out there with a desperate need for Henry Blanco?

bmfc1
Jun 04 2010 01:57 PM
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Unless, as suggested, somethings wrong with Barajas or Blanco, this doesn't make sense when you have a guy at AAA hitting almost .400 and another AAA guy with 15 homers.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2010 01:58 PM
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I think they like the Rod/Blanco combo very much and aren't anxious to break it up.
That said, I don't know why Omir either. I'm assuming Carter will get a number of the DH ABs or a different move will be made for that reason.
3rd string catchers don't make good DHs

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 01:59 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The Mets would never do something like trade one of their catchers in the middle of the year, unless it's Castro, of course. Is there a club out there with a desperate need for Henry Blanco?

There's 29 such clubs, and we'll be probably count the Mets among them as soon as they deal him.

Honestly, I have little idea what gives.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 01:59 PM
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I'm with the Bucket. Maybe it's a 40-man roster thing, and the spot isn't open until GMJ's fate is determined, be that released or traded.

bmfc1
Jun 04 2010 02:00 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 04 2010 02:01 PM

This means that they can use Tatis more since he's down to 4th on the catchers depth chart.

tobyhyde
Mets finally DFA GMJ. That's good. Calling up Omir Santos, hitting a combined .143/.194/.222 in 63 AB btw AA & AAA is perplexing.

tobyhyde
OF Jesus Feliciano is hitting .388/.435/.488 in AAA Buffalo w/ 13 BB and 16 K in 50 G. He can play CF and LF. Santos can't.

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 02:00 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
I'm with the Bucket. Maybe it's a 40-man roster thing, and the spot isn't open until GMJ's fate is determined, be that released or traded.

My understanding is that, by DFA'ing a guy, you clear his spot on the roster.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 04 2010 02:01 PM
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My guess is that Omir will only be around for a few days. Maybe Barajas or Blanco are having minor aches and pains. And then maybe after those few days, the Mets will send Santos down and replace him with a center fielder from Buffalo.

metirish
Jun 04 2010 02:01 PM
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Omir is up to take Ollie back with him to Buffalo.

attgig
Jun 04 2010 02:03 PM
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oh Omar. you entice us by finally dfa'ing GMJ, but then you bring up the wrong guy?!?!

*sigh*

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 02:08 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
tobyhyde
Mets finally DFA GMJ. That's good. Calling up Omir Santos, hitting a combined .143/.194/.222 in 63 AB btw AA & AAA is perplexing.


What kind of tweeting economy is that? I was hoping for:

GMJ NG WO PED. NYM DFA.

attgig
Jun 04 2010 02:12 PM
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wow. just realized that santos came from Binghamton. not buffalo. maybe it's because they were in Conneticutt for a game today, while the AAA guys were in norfolk? get santos up in time for gametime? where feliciano wouldn't get up to flushing in time...

meaning, they JUST decided to do this today...maybe they were holding out hope that Ollie would agree to a demotion even up till today....

only way that I can figure this making sense.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 04 2010 02:18 PM
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Rubin Tweeting that Blanco is banged-up.

Valadius
Jun 04 2010 02:20 PM
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My guess is Omar slept late today and forgot he was supposed to DFA GMJ by today's game.

bmfc1
Jun 04 2010 02:25 PM
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SurfingTheMets

Team source says Blanco had a cortisone shot (not clear where) will be out a few days.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2010 02:28 PM
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No bullpen moves? Would not have been surprised to see Parnell come up for Valdes or Igarashi.

Willets Point
Jun 04 2010 02:29 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
What kind of tweeting economy is that? I was hoping for:

GMJ NG WO PED. NYM DFA.


OMG!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 04 2010 02:49 PM
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I wonder who the emergency center fielder is? I'm guessing, in order: Francoeur, Bay, Tatis, Cora.

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2010 02:59 PM
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Willets Point wrote:
What kind of tweeting economy is that? I was hoping for:

GMJ NG WO PED. NYM DFA.


OMG!

Even better.

Zvon
Jun 04 2010 03:47 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I wonder who the emergency center fielder is? I'm guessing, in order: Francoeur, Bay, Tatis, Cora.


...John Fogerty?

Nymr83
Jun 04 2010 03:59 PM
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good riddance!!!

attgig
Jun 04 2010 04:19 PM
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I wonder who'll be sent down for Niese tomorrow. Hopefully Mejia will finally become a starter again.

Ceetar
Jun 04 2010 04:23 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I wonder who the emergency center fielder is? I'm guessing, in order: Francoeur, Bay, Tatis, Cora.


Bay has major league CF experience, so my guess would be him. And my guess is Tatis would get the nod over Carter in LF if that happened. Though I could see Manuel using Frenchy first. After Cora I think it's Carter, Ollie, Mejia (so he can get major league experience on what happens when the balls get hit over his head), then Tejada because he's fairly fast so that must mean he can play CF and after that Jerry himself will try to play it.

Ceetar
Jun 04 2010 04:24 PM
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err..I didn't post twice. fine.

Shame Blanco's hurt, and Thole's hurt. But hopefully only for a couple of days. It's sad that as much as I wanted to get rid of GMJ both moves actually made the team worse today.

MFS62
Jun 04 2010 08:37 PM
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I'll try to answer some of the questions in this thread:

Why a catcher? Because I heard that Blanco is slightly banged up.

Why Santos from Binghamton? Because there are only two catchers on the Buffalo team, Thole and JR House. And Thole is day to day from a concussion from a batter's backswing.

Why not Feliciano? Because the only other centerfielder on the Buffalo team (at least, the only other one you'd want to see play there), Pridie, is on the DL.

I hope that when Pridie returns, and Blanco feels a little bit better, we'll see Santos go back down and Feliciano brought up. But, since Pridie is on the 40 man roster, who knows?

Later

Ceetar
Jun 04 2010 08:46 PM
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Also I heard Howie relay that Manuel said Bay would be the backup in an emergency, with Carter in left.

Willets Point
Jun 05 2010 06:59 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
What kind of tweeting economy is that? I was hoping for:

GMJ NG WO PED. NYM DFA.


OMG!

Even better.

And you'd still have room to include: OMIR UP.

metirish
Jun 05 2010 07:09 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
I'll try to answer some of the questions in this thread:

Why a catcher? Because I heard that Blanco is slightly banged up.

Why Santos from Binghamton? Because there are only two catchers on the Buffalo team, Thole and JR House. And Thole is day to day from a concussion from a batter's backswing.

Why not Feliciano? Because the only other centerfielder on the Buffalo team (at least, the only other one you'd want to see play there), Pridie, is on the DL.

I hope that when Pridie returns, and Blanco feels a little bit better, we'll see Santos go back down and Feliciano brought up. But, since Pridie is on the 40 man roster, who knows?

Later




Thanks Omar

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 14 2010 07:14 AM
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So, what ever happened to Gary Jr.?

Did the Mets ultimately release him? Or is he going to Buffalo or somewhere?

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2010 07:25 AM
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Placed on waivers Friday. He has 72 hours to clear waivers. (I'm sure we all imagine he will, even though I guess a pickup would only be at the Mets salary rate, rather than the untenable full rate.) He's expected to be released after he clears.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2010 08:06 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Placed on waivers Friday. He has 72 hours to clear waivers. (I'm sure we all imagine he will, even though I guess a pickup would only be at the Mets salary rate, rather than the untenable full rate.) He's expected to be released after he clears.


In a brief fit of furious Googling and scanning so far, I can't seem to find anything on this.

But my understanding of swap rules seems to dictate that they're picking him up at the full rate. A renegotiated salary wasn't part of the trade, just a simple cash transfer from the Mets to the Padres as part of an exchange of players, right?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 14 2010 08:14 AM
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If that's the case, then if somebody claims Matthews, they'd have to pay him the $20 million (or whatever) and the Mets would be able to keep the money from the Angels?

That would be quite a windfall! I can't imagine it happening, though.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2010 08:16 AM
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Yeah, it's a tough call. I guess I take back what I said, but if true, the Mets have little motivation to trade him.

MFS62
Jun 14 2010 09:47 AM
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The way I read this, the Angels are paying most of the money directly to GMJ.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/m ... ws-jr.html

Doesn't sound like the major portion of the money is passing through the Mets' books on the way to him. If so, any other team that signs him would also only pay him what they sign him for or the remainder of his contract with the Mets.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2010 10:08 AM
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The way I read this, the Angels are paying most of the money directly to GMJ.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/m ... ws-jr.html



MLBTradeRumor Dude wrote:
The Mets will acquire Gary Matthews Jr. and cash from the Angels for Brian Stokes.


The description in your link mirrors virtually everything I've read about the trade (and others of its ilk); the way it scans to these eyes is, "The Mets will get a player and cash, with which they can pay a significant portion of the player's salary, in exchange for this other guy."

sharpie
Jun 14 2010 10:17 AM
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GMJ did nothing for us but at least Stokes is doing nothing for the Angels.

He pitched to a 7.31 era before going on the DL and now his AAA rehab assignment has been shut down for a while.

Fman99
Jun 16 2010 10:33 AM
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Officially released. He had one (ONE!) RBI and hit .190 in 36 games. Good luck GMJ.

metirish
Jun 16 2010 10:38 AM
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One of the worst contracts in sports .

Ashie62
Jun 16 2010 11:09 AM
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metirish wrote:
One of the worst contracts in sports .


But one of the best agents?

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2010 11:15 AM
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More like one of the best-timed career seasons ... plus that one sucker team willing to bet that it wasn't a fluke.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 16 2010 11:49 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
More like one of the best-timed career seasons ... plus that one sucker team willing to bet that it wasn't a fluke.


Part of what has turned out to be a historically bad free-agent Class of 2007, as examined here by Joe Posnanski.

When Zito's one of the better values in a class... that's no class at all.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2010 11:55 AM
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Wow! That was historically wretched.

Edgy DC
Jun 16 2010 01:01 PM
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That’s a pretty staggering list of expensive fail*. But here’s something compelling — and you have no doubt noticed this: Here you have all that money spent on Suppan, Zito, Meche, Soriano, Lee, Marquis, Eaton, Pierre, Lugo, Baez, Padilla, Schmidt, Matthews, the movie star and the rest … not one dime of it was spent by the New York Yankees.


Despite eventually mealy-mouthing about the Jason Giambi and and Kei Igawa cases, he refuses to give the Mets the same absolution. But had they, I'm sure somebody might have pointed out the one-year-plus-option on Moises Alou, or the three-year deal on Schoeneweis.

Anyhow, at least there was some cost containment on those deals, staying away from long-term overcommitments (though three years on a middle reliever of any stripe will always be a headscratcher). The Mets real boners that off-season were probably trades. The Bannister-for-Burgos thing isn't seeming like such a wreck any longer, but Bell/Ring-for-Adkins/Johnson followed by Owens/Lndstrom-for-Vargas/Bostick made for a bloody week. In fact, they may well have been the difference-makers in two division races.

Fman99
Jun 21 2010 07:52 PM
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Rotoworld reporting that Cincy has signed GMJ to a minor league deal. I wish him well, and hopefully many at bats against the Mets.

MFS62
Jun 21 2010 09:30 PM
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This thread has lasted about as long as his career with the Mets.
Later

Rockin' Doc
Jun 22 2010 09:10 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
This thread has lasted about as long as his career with the Mets.
Later


It has been as beneficial to the Mets cause as GMJ also.

Nymr83
Jun 23 2010 04:36 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
That’s a pretty staggering list of expensive fail*. But here’s something compelling — and you have no doubt noticed this: Here you have all that money spent on Suppan, Zito, Meche, Soriano, Lee, Marquis, Eaton, Pierre, Lugo, Baez, Padilla, Schmidt, Matthews, the movie star and the rest … not one dime of it was spent by the New York Yankees.


Despite eventually mealy-mouthing about the Jason Giambi and and Kei Igawa cases, he refuses to give the Mets the same absolution. But had they, I'm sure somebody might have pointed out the one-year-plus-option on Moises Alou, or the three-year deal on Schoeneweis.


I didn't mind the Alou deal, not even when he was hurt. It was one-year and therefore very low risk. Unlike certain other deals the Mets have given out it couldn't hurt the club by tying them to a guy long after he was of any use here.

Edgy DC
Jun 23 2010 06:58 AM
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Nonetheless, none of these deals (I'm not sure which you are citing) made his list.