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Gwreck Jun 05 2010 10:43 AM

I guess this stuff belongs in either a Marlins KTE or today's IGT but those threads are MIA. 1. Oliver Perez to DL with "knee tendinitis." 2. Hanley Ramirez running his mouth last night, "They boo their own players so we like to come here and beat the Mets.''

themetfairy Jun 05 2010 11:33 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

If I was the commissioner, I'd be insisting on seeing the medical reports saying that Ollie is injured. I guess it probably isn't too hard finding tendinitis in any athlete, but nonetheless this smells like a sham. Granted, a sham that works in our favor and solves an immediate problem. But as a fan of the game, I'm troubled by this convenient "injury." ____________ As for Hanley - playing in Florida, I guess he doesn't know what fans sound like....

metirish Jun 05 2010 11:45 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Hanley Ramirez has fast become a player I really dislike , for a lot of reasons.

TheOldMole Jun 05 2010 12:59 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

As a fan of the Mets. I have no problem with this convenient injury, any more than with Crash Davis (or Bill Veeck) manufacturing a rainout.

seawolf17 Jun 05 2010 01:04 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

TheOldMole wrote: As a fan of the Mets. I have no problem with this convenient injury, any more than with Crash Davis (or Bill Veeck) manufacturing a rainout. Me too. Screw the best interests of baseball; we need to get Ollie P right.

Frayed Knot Jun 05 2010 02:06 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Ollie has the right to dispute a DL assignment that he doesn't think is right. It's rare that a player does something like this - many are too young and too afraid to rock the boat - but if there's nothing to it and he thinks it's just retribution for not accepting a demotion then he/Boras could certainly challenge it. If they're not then it's unlikely the commish's office is going to intervene. Oh, and Hanley, come here and play like that and we'll boo your expanding ass too.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2010 02:16 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Really, you don't think Marlins fans would be booing your ass-dragging play if they were showing up?

Kong76 Jun 05 2010 02:42 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

themetfairy wrote: But as a fan of the game, I'm troubled by this convenient "injury." He obviously needs some time away, tendinitis sounds better than needs a check-up from the neck up. Frayed Knot wrote: if there's nothing to it and he thinks it's just retribution for not accepting a demotion then he/Boras could certainly challenge it. I'm sure they would not hesitate.

Kong76 Jun 05 2010 02:43 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

He should grow a real beard during the fifteen days.

Nymr83 Jun 05 2010 02:56 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

I am equally troubled (but not really caring) about the sudden and convenient "injury" Would Boras/Perez dispute it? I'm not sure. I wouldn't be shocked AT ALL if Boras and Minay talked BEFOREHAND and decided to concoct the injury as a means of letting both sides save face on the dispute over whether or not to go down.

themetfairy Jun 05 2010 02:59 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

OK - face saving aside, how is he going to get in work to fix his stupid problems if he's technically injured?

Nymr83 Jun 05 2010 03:03 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

minor league rehab assignment while on the DL

Gwreck Jun 05 2010 03:39 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Exactly. Send his ass to Port St. Lucie and have him work on his stuff. Or let him rot there, I guess.

seawolf17 Jun 05 2010 05:25 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Edgy DC wrote: Really, you don't think Marlins fans would be booing your ass-dragging play if they were showing up? Name one Marlins fan. Go.

Frayed Knot Jun 05 2010 05:27 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Well, those 'injury rehab' stints have time limits - something that's MLB mandated not just a team decision - so Ollie has to be re-instated once that's up assuming he continues to exercise his right not to be assigned to the minors.

DocTee Jun 05 2010 05:31 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Time limit is a relative term: it's 30 days after his first appearance in a sanctioned game. A 15 day stint could be indefinite. Personally, I hope he comes back as an effective starter, but I doubt he can.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2010 08:30 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Really, you don't think Marlins fans would be booing your ass-dragging play if they were showing up? Name one Marlins fan. Go. My co-worker, Blake. No, I don't think he actual ever shows up for a game. They're maybe his fourth favorite team, after the Dolphis and a few college football teams I couldn't give two shits about.

Valadius Jun 05 2010 09:49 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Really, you don't think Marlins fans would be booing your ass-dragging play if they were showing up? Name one Marlins fan. Go. My grandpa.

Ceetar Jun 05 2010 11:24 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Could of things, supposedly they will review the data because certain teams complained. (But, no one complained about Maine. I guess because it wasn't as long a layoff and it was more believable when the found something...after...they put him on the DL?) I'm sure they'll be able to find something/did find something to justify it, if only barely. From what I've been reading though, sounds like if it's bothering him, it's not really bothering him. Will be interesting to see how soon he pitches in a game. Hanley's a moron, but we knew that. Do the tons of Mets fans in Miami just not boo the Mets on the road? I always feel it's wrong to boo the Mets at all on the road or when the Yankees are visiting. Otherwise I'd imagine Citi and Dolphin+ would sound the same.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 06 2010 07:08 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

MLB to independently review the Perez injury, including MRIs, as per DJ You're Money and You Don't Even Know It.

metirish Jun 06 2010 04:34 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Omir Santos optioned to AA , Lennon speculating it sets up for Jesus Feliciano rising up to the big club for Tuesday.

Kong76 Jun 06 2010 04:37 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

They said he'd probably be up on the tv 'cast ... been in the minors like 13 years (I think they said today is his birthday) and has never got in The Book.

Frayed Knot Jun 06 2010 05:51 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Makes sense that with the day off on Monday Blanco will be more recovered from whatever bang-up he's had - so no more need for Santos. Now suddenly with Pagan, Bay & Francoeur all hitting, a bench of Carter, Feliciano & Tatis (plus the backup C & IF) doesn't look too bad.

RealityChuck Jun 07 2010 07:40 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Nymr83 wrote: I am equally troubled (but not really caring) about the sudden and convenient "injury" Would Boras/Perez dispute it? I'm not sure. I wouldn't be shocked AT ALL if Boras and Minay talked BEFOREHAND and decided to concoct the injury as a means of letting both sides save face on the dispute over whether or not to go down. Of course they won't dispute it. One point I discovered: If Perez accepts a minor league assignment, the time doesn't count toward his pension. If he's on the DL, it does. That would have been the major financial advantage of not going to the minors. This lets Ollie have his cake and eat it, too (i.e., simultaneously, for the nitpickers who don't understand the meaning of the idiom). MLB should be all over this, in any case. It's much too convenient for everyone. Of course, if they call it a sham and demand Ollie is back on the roster, someone will just have to make sure he is >really< injured. Maybe a baseball bat accidentally falls and breaks his non-pitching hand. I'm sure there will be some Mets fans who might be willing to take care of any accident.

Edgy DC Jun 07 2010 07:52 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Well I doubt a evidence of a broken hand presented in defense of a claim of knee tendonitis will help the Mets case very much.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 07 2010 09:21 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

I think this type of stuff happens all the time. Remember a few years ago the Red Sox took Lennyy DiNardo from the Mets in the Rule 5 draft, kept him on the roster and then decided he had "blisters" that sent him to the DL for pretty much the rest of the season. Remember, had he been sent back to the minors, the Mets could have demanded he come back to them. But with the magical blisters, he's in the majors as required and yet not on the roster.

smg58 Jun 07 2010 09:36 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

It doesn't take more than a flimsy justification. Maine was DL'd before the Mets could confirm that something wasn't right with his shoulder, and guys have been shelved for psychological reasons. It just has to be something the league will buy, or at least not protest.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 07 2010 12:36 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

smg58 wrote: It doesn't take more than a flimsy justification. Maine was DL'd before the Mets could confirm that something wasn't right with his shoulder, and guys have been shelved for psychological reasons. It just has to be something the league will buy, or at least not protest. In essence, "Give us something we can buy or sell, and don't be too brazen about flouting these rules."

Edgy DC Jun 07 2010 12:42 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

And a fraudulent injury [list][*]unconnected to any pubickly witnessed incident, [/*:m] [*]sustained by a mostly inactive player, [/*:m] [*]in the midst of an ineffective season, [/*:m] [*]at the end of a week of you will go to the minors/I will not/yes you will/no I won't drama[/*:m][/list:u] would be pretty brazen, if fraud is what's going on.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 07 2010 01:07 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Can something be circumstantially brazen?

RealityChuck Jun 07 2010 01:42 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Edgy DC wrote: Well I doubt a evidence of a broken hand presented in defense of a claim of knee tendonitis will help the Mets case very much. How about an old-fashioned kneecapping?

metirish Jun 07 2010 03:01 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Strange @SI_JonHeyman: RT @AndySlater Report: Gunman who killed 4, injured 3, in Hialeah, Fla. is half-brother of Orlando Hernandez and Livan

TransMonk Jun 07 2010 03:12 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Soup's Done: Brewers eat $10M+ by releasing Jeff Suppan. Good. I swear that guy had the best week of his career in October of 2006.

Edgy DC Jun 07 2010 05:13 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

The guy has been fading pretty consistently. 2005 St. Louis 16-10 3.57 ERA 2006 St. Louis 12-7 4.12 ERA 2007 Milwaukee 12-12 4.62 ERA 2008 Milwaukee 10-10 4.96 ERA 2009 Milwaukee 7-12 5.29 ERA 2010 Milwaukee 0-2 7.84 ERA You realize that, by creating this catch-all dump thread, you just create more work for your admins who will have to split off topics surgically.

Gwreck Jun 07 2010 05:55 PM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Edgy DC wrote: You realize that, by creating this catch-all dump thread, you just create more work for your admins who will have to split off topics surgically. That really wasn't my intention, I was just trying to not fuck with IGT mojo and share some enemy knowledge. We could just change the title to "Oliver's Injury and Screw You Hanley" and then lock it.

MFS62 Jun 11 2010 07:38 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Heard about the triple play last night. Later, SNY was showing a Mets highlight film (so grainy it looked like a kinnescope) of the 1966 (?) season. In it, the Mets turned a triple play. It went Bressoud to Hiller to Hickman. Then I thought , "Hey! Hiller was a terrible fielding second baseman." Then I thought, "Can Reese Havens be any worse than Hiller?" And then I thought , "Trask ....... radio". Then I fell asleep. Later

bmfc1 Jun 17 2010 10:35 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Not quite as bad as Jeter's Ford Edge ads, but bad enough: why does the ad agency for Bigelow Tea think that Mets fans will be impressed that Joe Torre drinks their product? (Gary did a live read for Bigelow last night.) Gretzky--OK; Phil Simms--fine. Even Jose Feliciano (not one of the Mets two Feliciano's) drinks it, too. Torre's association with their product only makes me want to know what Lipton is up to.

G-Fafif Jun 18 2010 08:06 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Anyone notice the David Wright Drives a Lincoln ads that have quietly replaced (for the most part) the Edge assault? They're not very good, but they do involve a Met.

Ceetar Jun 18 2010 08:17 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

G-Fafif wrote: Anyone notice the David Wright Drives a Lincoln ads that have quietly replaced (for the most part) the Edge assault? They're not very good, but they do involve a Met. They're not great, but any commercial that has Mets clips in it is always going to be passable.

themetfairy Jun 18 2010 09:10 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

G-Fafif wrote: Anyone notice the David Wright Drives a Lincoln ads that have quietly replaced (for the most part) the Edge assault? They're not very good, but they do involve a Met. G-Fafif - remember the time we were driving down to Philly, when out of the blue MK blurted out, "I will never buy a Ford!"?

G-Fafif Jun 18 2010 09:53 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

themetfairy wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Anyone notice the David Wright Drives a Lincoln ads that have quietly replaced (for the most part) the Edge assault? They're not very good, but they do involve a Met. G-Fafif - remember the time we were driving down to Philly, when out of the blue MK blurted out, "I will never buy a Ford!"? Best. Focus. Group. Ever.

The Second Spitter Jun 20 2010 06:44 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Mets (re)acquire former B-Met outfielder, Jorge Padilla from the BJs and assign him to the Bisons. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/06/m ... illa-.html (Maybe this thread should be remaned "Stuff not important enough to start a separate thread")

MFS62 Jun 20 2010 08:10 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Can something be circumstantially brazen? Well, nobody actually saw OJ commit the murders... Later

Ashie62 Jun 20 2010 09:14 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

I'll bet Padilla didn't want to leave the BJ's.

MFS62 Jun 20 2010 11:26 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

The Second Spitter wrote: Mets (re)acquire former B-Met outfielder, Jorge Padilla from the BJs and assign him to the Bisons. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/06/m ... illa-.html (Maybe this thread should be remaned "Stuff not important enough to start a separate thread") There have been a lot of injuries at Buffalo lately. The other day thay had Val Passicci playing the outfield. Getting an experienced outfielder wasn't unexpected. Later

Zvon Jun 20 2010 11:29 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

MFS62 Jun 21 2010 09:19 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Soup's Done: Brewers eat $10M+ by releasing Jeff Suppan. Good. I swear that guy had the best week of his career in October of 2006. Nope. He has re-upped with the Cards, and Dave Duncan has been able to do that voodoo that he do so well. Jeff has pitched two good games since signing there. Rats! Later

batmagadanleadoff Jun 26 2010 09:31 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

I was looking at K/9 inn. rates for Mets starting pitchers (Met careers only). Gooden's Met career rate is 7.78. John Maine's is 7.75. If Maine had two more K's, his K/9 rate would exceed Doc's.

Edgy DC Jun 26 2010 09:48 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

It's a different world, isn't it? Walter Johnson struck out 5.3/9.

seawolf17 Jun 26 2010 10:33 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Edgy DC wrote: It's a different world, isn't it? Walter Johnson struck out 5.3/9. That's why he SUCKED.

Willets Point Jun 26 2010 11:51 AM Re: Misc. Stuff we Don't Have Threads For

Boggs: The Video Game.