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I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 05:06 PM

They're going to milk this as if each team actually needs the 5 minutes they're allowed.
Take away the TV cameras and this thing goes twice as fast.

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 05:11 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

#1 - Bryce Harper

The Nats have had six months to think about this but apparently needed another five minutes.

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:13 PM
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ah. new thread.

#1 got announced as an OF'er

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:18 PM
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#2 Jameson Taillon

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:38 PM
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machado
colon
pomeranz
loux.


mets are now on the clock. will they go for cox?

Valadius
Jun 07 2010 05:42 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone.

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:43 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

#7
Matt Harvey. RHP UNC

Valadius
Jun 07 2010 05:43 PM
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ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good.

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:44 PM
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previously drafted in 07 3rd round by angels.

bio on unc website:
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-ba ... att00.html

his draft preview vid:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic ... id=7604027


Matt Harvey - P
North Carolina, Jr.
Birthdate: 3/27/1989
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 225 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Scout's report filed: 3/26/10
Scouting Report
Fastball: Harvey was throwing his fastball up to 96-97 mph and sustaining the velocity deep into his start.

Fastball movement: There's some decent life to it.

Slider: It's a relatively new pitch for him, so it's not always sharp, though he showed some glimpses of a decent slider.

Curve: In high school, he featured a pure, overhand power curve. He's gone more to the slider, though he'll still throw the curve on occasion.

Changeup: He doesn't use it much, but he's got a feel for it, and it could be an average offering.

Control: Command has often been an issue for Harvey. While it's been better, it's still not pinpoint control.

Poise: He's improved his mound presence and worked on maintaining the same approach regardless of what happens around him.

Physical Description: Harvey has filled out his 6-foot-4 frame quite a bit in college and is a big and durable-looking right-hander.

Medical Update: Healthy.

Strengths: He showed a plus fastball and shows flashes of the above-average breaking stuff he once had. He's also got a feel for a changeup.

Weaknesses: There are still some delivery issues, though what got him out of whack as a sophomore has largely been corrected. Command is still a problem at times.

Summary: Once a top high school prospect, Harvey has reclaimed his status as a first-round candidate with a resurgent junior season. The delivery problems that had him so off his game as a sophomore have largely been corrected, though there are still some issues there that can effect his command and ability to throw his breaking ball. Still, Harvey was showing an above-average to plus fastball and maintaining his velocity, to go along with glimpses of good breaking stuff and a feel for a change. He's come a long way this season, and he likely won't have to wait too long to be redrafted.

attgig
Jun 07 2010 05:46 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

seems like not so sure of a thing for a #7 pick...

seawolf17
Jun 07 2010 05:49 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Call him up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 07 2010 05:55 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Sounds like another power arm if it all works out for Harvey.

Draft is tough since you can pretend you like everything in the store but buy only one item.

Feeling old -- Delino DeShields Jr.?

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 05:56 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

attgig wrote:
seems like not so sure of a thing for a #7 pick...


Nothing is a sure thing, even at this level.
A quick run-down of the history of first round picks would dampen a lot of fan enthusiasm.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 07 2010 05:58 PM
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Gotta admire the Matt Dillon "Something About Mary" mustache.

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 06:02 PM
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Who woulda thought that Texas-Arlington is in Arlington, Texas.
Thanx Bud.

Do you get the idea that Bud could somehow manage to be stiff at a Hawai'in luau even after downing about ten umbrella drinks?

Gwreck
Jun 07 2010 06:15 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Sounds like another power arm if it all works out for Harvey.

Draft is tough since you can pretend you like everything in the store but buy only one item.

Feeling old -- Delino DeShields Jr.?


Same here, although Delino Sr. did have the kid when he was 23.

Edgy DC
Jun 07 2010 06:33 PM
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Valadius wrote:
On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone.


Valadius wrote:
ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good.

Classic Met fan moment.

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 06:38 PM
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He just wanted to be on the record in advance that he's against bad draft picks.

Edgy DC
Jun 07 2010 06:42 PM
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But isn't creeped out by cloning.

Nymr83
Jun 07 2010 06:51 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

from mets blog:
Mets scout Marlin McPhail watched one outing this season is which Harvey threw 157 pitches. McPhail confessed after watching: "You tend to get a little nervous, quite frankly."


I'm not Mr. Pitch Count or anything but 157 for a 20 year old kid? wow.

OlerudOwned
Jun 07 2010 06:54 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Edgy DC wrote:
Valadius wrote:
On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone.


Valadius wrote:
ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good.

Classic Met fan moment.

Especially when coupled with this quote at the end of Amazin' Avenue's scouting report on Harvey.

If there is any pitcher on the Mets who thats comparable to, it’s Pelfrey, as it’s almost a carbon copy of his scouting report. If Harvey works on his plant and speeds up his delivery in the minors, he really should be almost a big Pelf clone without all the licking.


Heh.

At the #7 spot, I'd rather have a pitcher that already actually throws a legitimate breaking ball instead of a Pelfrey clone with a huge learning curve. But, if the results end up being the same as the one's Mike has ended up with this season, I suppose I can't really complain.

Valadius
Jun 07 2010 06:54 PM
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Is Marlin related to the famous McPhail family?

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 06:58 PM
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Pelfrey was a more accomplished pitcher at his age than Harvey is now.
The difference is that 2005 was considered one of the best drafts in recent year while this one is thought of as very thin. And, luckily for us, several teams passed on Pelfrey in favor of other pitchers (Ricky Romero -Tor #6, Wade Townsend - #8) leaving him still open at pick #9

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 07 2010 07:40 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

IIRC, people passed on Pelfrey largely due to the Boras/signability issue. Harvey should be an easier go.

But then, Harvey's like Pelfrey without the control.

I REALLY could have used Josh Sale or Michael Choice here. But what do I know?

Ceetar
Jun 07 2010 07:41 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
IIRC, people passed on Pelfrey largely due to the Boras/signability issue. Harvey should be an easier go.


More evidence the Mets go over-slot/sign guys when they feel they're worth it? shocker..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 07 2010 07:48 PM
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That is to say, folks who purport to know say that Harvey comes on as an easier sign.

There are some conspiracy theorists who've suggested it might be a good idea that the Mets pick someone "unsignable" in this year's draft, in order to essentially defer to next year's (which seems stronger on paper). They don't seem to have done that here.

Ceetar
Jun 07 2010 07:55 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
That is to say, folks who purport to know say that Harvey comes on as an easier sign.

There are some conspiracy theorists who've suggested it might be a good idea that the Mets pick someone "unsignable" in this year's draft, in order to essentially defer to next year's (which seems stronger on paper). They don't seem to have done that here.



There are also people that think the Mets will finish near, or at, the bottom of the division and would get a good draft pick anyway.

I doubt Harvey is unsignable. Boras generally gets his guys signed, and while he does have a senior year to fall back on, doesn't seem like the route they want to go. Plus it's his second time in the draft, so I doubt he would've done that if he wasn't serious. I generally point and laugh at conspiracy theorists though.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 07 2010 08:06 PM
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Worth noting, I think: the Rays (whose scouting department has done an impeccable job over the last 5-10 years, both in talent identification and selecting guys in whom their system can bring out the best) yoinked HS thwompers Josh Sale and Justin O'Conner-- the SS/C?-- with their picks.

Edgy DC
Jun 07 2010 08:34 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

We've got enough overthinkers without conspiracy theorists.

And the Rays did a great job building a margin for error out of nine last places (and one next-to-last) in ten years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 07 2010 08:48 PM
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They're loaded for bear for the next five years. They can let Crawford and Pena walk after this year and be okay for the next 2-3 years besides. Though I doubt they'll do it, they can let Longoria and Zobrist once they hit the free-agent market and still be contenders, assuming no ridiculous rashes of injuries. They are that deep in the high minors.

I'm not saying I wish I were a Rays fan. I'm saying that the way they've run their minor leagues and draft recently is enviable, and I would gladly fart in my mother's face if some mystical invisible hand would swap Andrew Freeman and Omar.

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2010 08:53 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
IIRC, people passed on Pelfrey largely due to the Boras/signability issue. Harvey should be an easier go.


Only a couple slots, but yes his perceived signability was a factor in his still being around at #9



There are some conspiracy theorists who've suggested it might be a good idea that the Mets pick someone "unsignable" in this year's draft, in order to essentially defer to next year's (which seems stronger on paper). They don't seem to have done that here.


I've heard that too but, as Kramer would say, "that's kooky talk".
First of all it's so tough to even know how next year's draft is going to look. This year was considered a down year (although that could be re-written over time) so next year is likely to be better but by how much? Also the "replacement" pick you get the following year is NOT protected if not signed which pretty much forces a team into a more conservative pick knocking out most of what you hoped to gain.
The Nats didn't sign their #9 pick two years back and wound up spending the "9A" selection the following year on a reliever. That might have also partly been caused by by being 9 picks after the ultra-expensive Strasburg but still, the ceiling on a guy like Drew Storen is only so high.

Edgy DC
Jun 07 2010 09:10 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

That do-over rule is, by the way, crap. As if they don't do enough anti-competitive crap to torpedo the leverage players have earned.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 06:40 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Re-starts today at noon (EDT) with rounds 2-30, beginning with pick #51 overall.
It'll be carried over MLB.com and many of the other usual suspects.

Mets have pick #89, #122, and then #152 and every 30 picks after that.

Rounds 31-50 on Wednesday.

metirish
Jun 08 2010 08:47 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Nymr83 wrote:
from mets blog:
Mets scout Marlin McPhail watched one outing this season is which Harvey threw 157 pitches. McPhail confessed after watching: "You tend to get a little nervous, quite frankly."


I'm not Mr. Pitch Count or anything but 157 for a 20 year old kid? wow.


Lennon


Looks as though the Mets won't have to worry about Matt Harvey, whom they chose seventh overall in last night's first-year player draft, going deep into games. Harvey, a University of North Carolina junior, threw 157 pitches in a 15-strikeout complete-game victory over Clemson this season. Scouts reported that Harvey's final pitch was 96 mph, a testament to the right-hander's strength and durability.

"It was interesting at the beginning of the game," Harvey said last night on a conference call. "I felt kind of sick. I didn't feel that great. But in the third and fourth innings, I got my legs under me, and in the seventh and eighth, I felt the best I had all night. After striking out the side in the eighth, it was pretty tough not to go back out there."

The Tar Heels appreciated the effort, but Marlin McPhail, the Mets' scout in attendance, had mixed emotions.

"You get a little nervous," McPhail said. "Quite frankly, I don't know what other word to use."

But the Mets still had no trepidation about drafting Harvey, even if he does have Scott Boras as his agent. That guarantees the Mets will be forced above slot to sign Harvey.

When asked about dealing with Boras, Omar Minaya said they have a "working relationship." He would not comment specifically about paying above slot for Harvey.

"In the past, what we've done is, we've put a price on a player," Minaya said. "And we pretty much have felt that when we want a player, we sign him.''

Rudy Terrasas, the Mets' director of amateur scouting, compared Harvey to Mike Pelfrey in pitching style. The two also share Boras as an agent, and it took the Mets nearly six months to sign Pelfrey, who was the No. 9 overall pick in 2005. Harvey spurned the Angels' offer when he was first drafted in 2007.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 09:01 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

BA's list of their top-ranked availables as Day 2 begins. There are 15 and we pick 38th, so not a good shot at any, probably. It would be cool to have a guy called Jedd Gyorko, though.


15. Stetson Allie, rhp, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio
20. Brandon Workman, rhp, Texas
23. Brett Eibner, rhp/of, Arkansas
25. A.J. Cole, rhp, Oviedo (Fla.) HS
28. Austin Wilson, of, Harvard-Westlake School, Studio City, Calif.
31. Ryan LaMarre, of, Michigan
33. Chad Bettis, rhp, Texas Tech
35. Yordy Cabrera, ss/rhp, Lakeland (Fla.) HS
37. Jedd Gyorko, ss, West Virginia
38. Ryne Stanek, rhp, Blue Valley HS, Stilwell, Kan.
45. A.J. Vanegas, rhp, Redwood Christian HS, San Lorenzo, Calif.
46. Garin Cecchini, 3b, Barbe HS, Lake Charles, La.
47. James Paxton, lhp, Grand Prairie (American Assoc.)
48. Sammy Solis, lhp, San Diego
50. Jesse Hahn, rhp, Virginia Tech

MFS62
Jun 08 2010 09:34 AM
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metirish wrote:
from mets blog:
Mets scout Marlin McPhail watched one outing this season is which Harvey threw 157 pitches. McPhail confessed after watching: "You tend to get a little nervous, quite frankly."


I'm not Mr. Pitch Count or anything but 157 for a 20 year old kid? wow.


Lennon


Looks as though the Mets won't have to worry about Matt Harvey, whom they chose seventh overall in last night's first-year player draft, going deep into games. Harvey, a University of North Carolina junior, threw 157 pitches in a 15-strikeout complete-game victory over Clemson this season. Scouts reported that Harvey's final pitch was 96 mph, a testament to the right-hander's strength and durability.



I heard yesterday that he struck out 15 batters in that game.

No report whether the coach had guys warming up in the bullpen after Harvey's 108th pitch.

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 09:40 AM
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Mel Rojas Jr., switch hitting outfielder, is out there.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 10:09 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

MFS62 wrote:
from mets blog:
Mets scout Marlin McPhail watched one outing this season is which Harvey threw 157 pitches. McPhail confessed after watching: "You tend to get a little nervous, quite frankly."


I'm not Mr. Pitch Count or anything but 157 for a 20 year old kid? wow.


Lennon


Looks as though the Mets won't have to worry about Matt Harvey, whom they chose seventh overall in last night's first-year player draft, going deep into games. Harvey, a University of North Carolina junior, threw 157 pitches in a 15-strikeout complete-game victory over Clemson this season. Scouts reported that Harvey's final pitch was 96 mph, a testament to the right-hander's strength and durability.



I heard yesterday that he struck out 15 batters in that game.

No report whether the coach had guys warming up in the bullpen after Harvey's 108th pitch.

Later

I read it in the post you quote.

metirish
Jun 08 2010 10:18 AM
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This is so typical of what gets said about the Mets and their farm...from Harper today , talking about possible trade pickups.

And while the rookie performances of Ike Davis, Jenrry Mejia, Jon Niese, and now Ruben Tejada are improving the perception of the Mets' farm system, it is still considered thin regarding top prospects at the upper levels.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z0qHLrPilz


and no matter what John you will still consider it thin....

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 10:32 AM
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Pirates get Stetson Allie, top left on the board.

My boy Jedd goes to the Padres.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 10:46 AM
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Omar's heart breaks as Pirates select Mel Rojas Jr. 5 slots ahead of us.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 10:52 AM
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Norman Forsythe!

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 10:54 AM
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NORM!!!

A U of Tenn catcher
6' 2" - 220; R/R

metirish
Jun 08 2010 10:54 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Norman Forsythe!



grandson of espionage novelist Frederick

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2010 10:55 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Norman Forsythe!



Born in New York state in 1869, Norman A . Forsyth was one of the more famous Montana photographers during the later stereoview era of post-1900. He operated out of his Butte studios from the late 1880’s for over 50 years until the early 1940’s. As a stereoview producer, Forsyth is mainly known for his boxed sets. They were usually in groups of 30 on curved, gray mounts with a thin division between the two photos. Some of his more famous subjects were Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks, the Montana cities of Butte and Missoula, many mining views, flood views, rounding up buffaloes, Morrison Caves, Indians, etc. Forsyth was also an agent for Underwood and Underwood from 1885-1923 and then the Keystone View Company from 1923-1947. For them he covered Montana, Wyoming and Nebraska. His total stereoview production under his own name was well over 600 views.

http://www.yellowstonestereoviews.com/p ... rsyth.html

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 10:57 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 08 2010 10:58 AM

Indians took LeVon Washington with pick #55
He was one of the guys picked in the 1st round last year (in the mid-20s somewhere w/Tampa I think) but chose not to sign and went to JuCo instead.
That gambit didn't work out too good did it kid?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 10:57 AM
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aka Blake Forsythe, apparently has some pop in his stick

Baseball America sez
C Blake Forsythe, like Rick Hague, didn't hit this season up to expectations, goes 89 to Mets. Forsythe still hit 15 HRs, good finish



I likes to catch that RA Dickey.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 11:00 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Born in New York state in 1869, Norman A . Forsyth was one of the more famous Montana photographers during the later stereoview era of post-1900.

Beats the New Zealand murderer I came up with.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 11:02 AM
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Former CBHS star Blake Forsythe hopes to catch on in MLB draft
By Marlon W. Morgan
Posted June 7, 2010 at midnight
Blake Forsythe isn't quite sure whether his name will be called during tonight's first round of Major League Baseball's First-Year Player Draft or Tuesday, when rounds 2-30 take place.

The former Christian Brothers High School and current University of Tennessee catcher has heard he will likely be taken in the first three rounds, or almost assuredly in the first five.

But one thing Forsythe is certain about is that whatever team selects him, he plans to be on their major league roster sooner rather than later.

"I'm a hard worker, and I'm going to go out there and give it everything I've got," Forsythe said. "Whoever decides to pick me, I'm going to do whatever I can to make it through their system as fast as I can.

"My goal is to play in the big leagues. I don't plan on making a career out of the minor leagues. I can guarantee them I'm going to push myself as fast as I can, or as much as I can, to get to the big leagues and help them out in anyway I can."

Forsythe is one of three local players expected to go high in this year's draft. Ole Miss junior Drew Pomeranz, a left-handed pitcher from Collierville, is expected to be a top 10 pick tonight, while Taylor Morton, a right-handed pitcher from Bartlett and a Tennessee signee, will likely hear his name called Tuesday.

Prior to his junior year at Tennessee this season, the 6-2, 220-pound Forsythe was projected by some as a possible first round pick. He was coming off a sophomore season in which he hit .347 with 15 homers and 46 RBI, and was named a first-team all-Southeastern Conference performer.

But a slow start at the plate this season may have contributed to his slight fall in pre-draft projections.

"I think I was just trying to do a little too much to carry the team, not just trusting myself," Forsythe said. "I was trying to make things happen instead of just letting them happen. I just finally realized I put the work in and I just need to sit back and trust myself and let things happen.

"Sure enough, they did and as it turned out, I finished really strong."

Forsythe is the younger brother of Logan Forsythe, who starred at Arkansas and is now in the San Diego Padres farm system.

In addition to his bat, Forsythe is an excellent defensive catcher.

He threw out 35 percent of would-be basestealers this season. Baseball America rates him the 12th-best catcher in the draft.

CBHS coach Buster Kelso isn't surprised. He put Forsythe on the varsity roster as a sophomore and watched him improve every year.

"By the time he was a junior, I felt like he was one of the top catchers I had ever coached," Kelso said. "As far as draftability, those are hard to project. But when he left here, I thought he was going to be a high draft pick."

In addition to his physical skills, Kelso believes it's Forsythe's leadership skills that set him apart.

"His senior year, we had a very young team, very few seniors," Kelso said. "And he led us to a state championship (in 2007). Without him, we don't even come close. His leadership, compounded by his strong attitude toward the game, it's just tremendous.

"There's not going to be many catchers out there better than Blake, collegiately or high school. He's the type of guy, they'll take him if he bats .250 because he's going to hit home runs. And he's just a good handler of pitchers."

Forsythe said he has received strong interest from several teams. He plans to watch the draft at home with his family.

Forsythe said he plans to remain on an even keel until his name is called. Then, it's time to start that journey to the big leagues.

metirish
Jun 08 2010 11:04 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Every player thinks this I'm sure.....


But one thing Forsythe is certain about is that whatever team selects him, he plans to be on their major league roster sooner rather than later.



that and keeping an even keel.

See you soon sonny boy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 11:08 AM
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Blake Forsythe? Logan Forsythe? Remind me again: which one's the oil magnate, and which one's sleeping with Joan Collins?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 11:24 AM
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3rd round, pick 122: Cory Vaughn, outfielder from San Diego State

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 11:27 AM
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Son of Greg, not of Mo.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 11:28 AM
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"I'm going to try really really hard, and push myself."

"Why did you struggle so early this season."

"I was trying too hard."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 11:29 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
3rd round, pick 122: Cory Vaughn, outfielder from San Diego State


Any relation?

OE: Never mind. Although FWIW, I was thinking Greg, not Mo.

seawolf17
Jun 08 2010 11:29 AM
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My nephew -- now 14 -- used to refer to both of them interchangeably as Gregmo Vaughn.

seawolf17
Jun 08 2010 11:31 AM
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Vaughn was drafted in the 43rd round by the Phillies in 2007 but didn't sign; when he becomes a big star, we can really stick it to them! Suck it, Phillies!

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 11:45 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Well Greg & Mo are cousins of some sort so, yeah, he is related.

seawolf17
Jun 08 2010 11:48 AM
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Dodgers waste a pick on James Baldwin, who retired like four years ago.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 11:51 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

3rd round, pick 122: Cory Vaughn, outfielder from San Diego State


Maybe he knows how to hit Strasburg. Or at least knows something embarrassing and can tease him about it 'til he cries.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 11:59 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

4th round: Matthew Den Decker, come on down!

seawolf17
Jun 08 2010 12:01 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
4th round: Matthew Den Decker, come on down!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-xrRHTMU

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 12:02 PM
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I can has hilite reel

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 12:07 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

BA twats:

Mets 5th rounder is one of better Srs. available, Fla. OF Matt den Dekker, plus defend, good tools, though he'd go higher

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 12:09 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
3rd round, pick 122: Cory Vaughn, outfielder from San Diego State


From late last summer:

Cape Cod Scouting Dude wrote:
Cory Vaughn is what we call a "gunshot guy." A gunshot guy is a hitter whose wood bat makes a sound like a gunshot when he makes solid contact, as opposed to the wet newspaper sound. Show up for BP or early work and you’ll hear it. I had the park to myself. The scouts were sleeping it off.

Vaughn, the son of the Greg Vaughn, has a leaner and more athletic body than his father had when he first came to the major leagues. Cory Vaughn hits from a wide stance and has a short trigger. He has fast hands and keeps the firm front side even when he is fooled. He’s going to have the power to play a corner and I think he’s going to be athletic enough to steal some bases if he wants to. He’s a first-round talent in 2010. His numbers weren’t much to look at on the Cape, but I’m not scouting results. You can’t hide the power and you can’t hide this guy’s body and athleticism. If I were looking for a comparison at this stage, Matt Kemp might work.


Yow, that's optimistic.

Valadius
Jun 08 2010 12:16 PM
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Let's hope Cory hasn't found his father's stash of testicle-reducing drugs.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 12:17 PM
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Yow, that's pessimistic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 12:31 PM
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Austin Wilson's still lurking out there, isn't he?

Worth going (significantly?) over slot for that?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2010 12:34 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

If in fact the Mets sign him, then we'll know for sure, without a doubt, that he's never had PED's. Because that's how it works!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 12:43 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Round 6: Greg Peavey, Oregon State


I'm like Greg Vaughn and Jake Peavy combined yo

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 01:32 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Interesting Round 10 pick: Akeel Morris a high schooler from the US Virgin Islands reportedly brings it in the mid-90s

Pro teams targeting V.I. talents
BY AARON GRAY
Daily News Staff
ST. THOMAS — Akeel Morris pitched a perfect game past season for the Charlotte Amalie High School baseball team, which is just one accomplishment on a baseball resume the 17-year-old is hoping will attract interest from a professional baseball team.

Morris is one of a handful of baseball players from the U.S. Virgin Islands who should be selected during next week’s Major League Baseball Draft, V.I. Future Stars Baseball founder Darren Canton said.

“The Virgin Islands isn’t exactly known for baseball, but right now, we’re developing a little name for ourselves,” said Canton, who started the baseball recruiting organization five years ago. “Nationally, we’re making strides. We are putting out talent that can compete and it’s just going to get better and better.”
The MLB Draft starts Monday and goes through Wednesday, but Canton and the players involved should find out which team will draft them beforehand.
As the players participated in daily workouts at the University of Virgin Islands this week to prepare for upcoming summer leagues, the excitement was starting to build.

“I think I have a good chance to go in the middle rounds,” said Morris, a 6-foot-2, 175-pound right-handed pitcher. “It’s been a long process as far as being scouted. I’ve been to so many tournaments and I’ve followed up on all the scouts and coaches I’ve met. It’s been quite a ride.”

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 01:41 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

"When you think of perfection... think of Akeel."



The intervening picks-- Peavey, Walters, McDowall-- have all been increasingly less interesting versions of the same Kunz-ian prototype (meaty righties, with some velocity, iffy-to-bad command, and okay-to-bad college results/K-to-BB ratio).

The ninth-round guy DeGrom (Jacob DeGrom, RHP/SS, Stetson) looks interesting-- superlative control, with just 16 BB all last year.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 01:50 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

They are the sons of Joe Christopher.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 02:07 PM
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Adam Kolarek in Round 11 (6.06 ERA, 13 G, 5 starts, 35 IP, 34 K, 21 BB). Ugh.

Bret Mitchell (94 IP, 37 BB+HBP, 108 K last year) in Round 12. Hmm.

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 08 2010 02:11 PM
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Chin up, man. Bobby Parnell had "ugh" numbers coming out of school, too.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2010 02:18 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

So many new names! This is kinda like the first day in a new school.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 02:23 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
So many new names! This is kinda like the first day in a new school.




Nice to meet you too. I'm 14th round selection J.B. Brown from Pacific U.

Yeah, I never heard of that school myself.

Vic Sage
Jun 08 2010 02:32 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Chin up, man. Bobby Parnell had "ugh" numbers coming out of school, too.


and he's maintained them ever since --

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 02:35 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
So many new names! This is kinda like the first day in a new school.




Nice to meet you too. I'm 14th round selection J.B. Brown from Pacific U.

Yeah, I never heard of that school myself.


Alma mater of L.A. Clipper center/first-overall-pick/bust Michael Olawakandi (this I knew), actor/self-parodizer Robert Culp, actress/possible hermaphrodite Jamie Lee Curtis, onscreen showerer Janet Leigh, warbler/feeler-upper-of-Helena-Christensen Chris Isaak, jazzbo/taker of sixes Dave Brubeck...

... and Scott Boras.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 02:36 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Check out our new left fielder, Tillman Pugh (round 15)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0BLNhV8CnM

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 02:41 PM
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Rusty Tillman meets Rich Puig.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 02:47 PM
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Den Dekker... Pugh... is the team actively trying to draft the next GMJ catch?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 03:41 PM
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Did the Mets just draft someone from the astronaut school?

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 03:49 PM
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I like that the Red Sox went with a first rounder named Vitek, cornering the market on... players whose name kind of sound like that.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 04:02 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

For comparative purposes, the Sox took 2B Vitek (20th overall) and RHP Anthony Ranaudo (39th overall) with the compensation picks for Wagner.

They also took OF Bryce Brentz (36th overall) and RHP Brandon Workman (57th overall) with the comp picks for Bay.

The Jays took RHP Asher Wojciechowski from the Citadel with the compensation pick for Rod Barajas.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 04:12 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

seawolf17 wrote:
4th round: Matthew Den Decker, come on down!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-xrRHTMU

What do you say to that, 15th rounder Tillman Pugh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0BLNhV8CnM

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2010 06:34 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Round - Pick - Name - Pos - School - State
1 -- 7 -- Matt Harvey -- RHP -- North Carolina, N.C.
3 -- 89 -- Blake Forsythe -- C -- Tennessee, Tenn.
4 -- 122 -- Cory Vaughn -- OF -- San Diego State, Ca
5 -- 152 -- Matt den Dekker -- OF -- Florida, Fla
6 -- 182 -- Greg Peavey -- RHP -- Oregon State, Or
7 -- 212 -- Jeff Walters -- RHP -- Georgia, Ga
8 -- 242 -- Kenny McDowall -- RHP -- JC of Southern Nevada, Nv
9 -- 272 -- Jacob Degrom -- RHP -- Stetson -- Fla
10 -- 302 -- Akeel Morris -- RHP -- Charlotte Amaile HS, St. Thomas, V.I.
11 -- 332 -- Adam Kolarek -- LHP -- Maryland, MD
12 -- 362 -- Bret Mitchell -- RHP -- Minnesota State-Mankato, Minn
13 -- 392 -- Brian Harrison -- 3B -- Furman, SC
14 -- 422 -- J.B. Brown -- 2B -- Pacific, Ca
15 -- 452 -- Tillman Pugh -- OF -- Sonoma State, Ca
16 -- 482 -- Ryan Fraser -- RHP -- Memphis, Tenn
16 -- 505 -- Evan Rutckyj -- LHP -- St. Joseph's HS, St. Thomas, Ont
17 -- 512 -- Chad Sheppard -- RHP -- Northwestern State, La
18 -- 542 -- Alex Pinera -- RHP -- Tampa, Fla
19 -- 572 -- Jonathan Kountis -- RHP -- Embry-Riddle, Fla
20 -- 602 -- Luke Stewart -- 1B -- Alabama-Birmingham, Ala
21 -- 632 -- Dabias Johnson -- 2B -- Cook HS, Adel, Ga
22 -- 662 -- Brandon Brown -- SS -- South Alabama, Ala
23 -- 692 -- Drew Martinez -- OF -- Memphis, Tenn
24 -- 722 -- Erik Goeddel -- RHP -- UCLA, Ca
25 -- 752 -- Matthew Birdwell -- RHP -- Vanguard, Ca
26 -- 782 -- Jet Butler -- SS -- Mississippi State, Miss
27 -- 812 -- Michael Weldon -- RHP -- Wayland Baptist
28 -- 842 -- Jeremy Gould -- LHP -- Duke, NC
29 -- 872 -- Hamilton Bennett -- LHP -- Tennessee Wesleyan CC, Tenn
30 -- 902 -- Josh Edgin -- LHP -- Francis Marion, SC


And just 20 more rounds to go.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2010 07:47 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

It must be a tough economy to find a job as a jet butler.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 08 2010 09:43 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
It must be a tough economy to find a job as a jet butler.


If he'd gotten a proper aeronautical learnin' like Kountis, he could have snagged a nice, recession-proof living as a Jet Accountant or Jet Nurse.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2010 09:48 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Evan Rutckyj

This must have been fun to hear Mookie pronounce.

MFS62
Jun 08 2010 10:00 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Dodgers waste a pick on James Baldwin, who retired like four years ago.

Maybe they were hoping he'd catch the fire next time.

Later

MFS62
Jun 09 2010 10:31 AM
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Round 14 pick James Brown, 2B, University of the Pacific, led Pacific with a .376 batting average as a junior.

James Brown?

I feeeel good!

da da da-da da-da da

Later

seawolf17
Jun 09 2010 01:53 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Finally, in Round 40, a Seawolf: Justin Echevarria to the Padres.

http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-bas ... 10aac.html

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 09 2010 01:54 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Update from the 42nd round: We have drafted John Franco's kid, shortstop JJ Franco!

Frayed Knot
Jun 09 2010 06:11 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 10 2010 06:58 AM

I wonder if he takes the (minor) money or goes to college (St. John's?).

Other familiar names:

[u:252d5na8]Offspring[/u:252d5na8]
Benito Santiago Jr.
Delino DeShields Jr.
Mel Rojas Jr.
James Baldwin
Dickie Thon Jr.
Cam Bedrosian
Colton Keogh (Matt)
Andy Fermin (Felix)
Hunter Jones (Tracy)
Garrett Beuchele (Steve)
Josh McGee (Wendell)
Cam Narron (Jerry)
Logan Thompson (Robbie)
Chad Wallach (Tim)
Reggie Jr. & JaDamion Williams (4 picks apart)
Dillon Moyer (Jamie) - promote him NOW!!!!
Patrick Leyland
Ozney Guillen
Brett Bochy
Mark Tracy (Jim)
Bo McClendon (Lloyd)
Andrew Benes (Andy) - and of course nephew of Alan

[u:252d5na8]Grandsons[/u:252d5na8]
Drew Cisco (Galen)
Jake May (Lee)


[u:252d5na8]Siblings[/u:252d5na8]
Devon Ethier (Andre)
Ben Verlander (Justin)
Gabriel Romero (Rickey)
Kellen Sweeny (Ryan)
Ben Gamel (Mat)
Bryan Harper (Bryce) - although surprisingly not by the Nationals

[u:252d5na8]Other[/u:252d5na8]
Michael (nephew of Paul) O'Neill - and, yes, by the Yanquis
Joseph Jackson (50th round) who the Royals claim is the great-great-grand-nephew of 'Shoeless' Joe

Gwreck
Jun 09 2010 07:08 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Frayed Knot wrote:
I wonder if he takes the (minor) money or goes to college (St. John's?).


Committed to Brown so I'm guessing college.

Frayed Knot
Jun 09 2010 09:08 PM
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Given the choice between a free Ivy League education - and getting to play ball - versus 42nd round bonus money and I'd choose college as well.

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2010 10:08 PM
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I just don't get why Franco wouldn't tell the Mets privately, "Don't waste the pick, my kid's commitment is set." But I don't know why Howard Johnson didn't either.

J.J. Franco was either considered one of the two best high school shortstops in the city or one of the two best private school shorstops in the city.

Pretty funny, since his father as a hitter went oh-for-the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 10 2010 07:37 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

29 -- 872 -- Hamilton Bennett -- LHP -- Tennessee Wesleyan CC, Tenn


I just found out that my brother-in-law knows this kid! He's his neighbor!

Edgy DC
Jun 10 2010 07:40 AM
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Jet's either a big shortstop or has tiny honey bunny.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 10 2010 07:42 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
29 -- 872 -- Hamilton Bennett -- LHP -- Tennessee Wesleyan CC, Tenn


I just found out that my brother-in-law knows this kid! He's his neighbor!


How are the intangibles? Does he roll his eyes when he's asked to mow the lawn? How long does it take him to get out to the car in the morning? Does he leave the bike out in the rain?

seawolf17
Jun 10 2010 07:46 AM
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Or, more importantly, does he leave the cake out in the rain?

Edgy DC
Jun 10 2010 07:46 AM
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Jet goes 6'3" 215, and his college career numbers suggest he's more a secondbaseman than a shortstop, but whatev.

http://thejetbutler.com/

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2010 10:33 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
29 -- 872 -- Hamilton Bennett -- LHP -- Tennessee Wesleyan CC, Tenn


I just found out that my brother-in-law knows this kid! He's his neighbor!


Ask him why he kept losing those cases to Perry Mason.

bmfc1
Jun 11 2010 09:56 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Good stuff from The Hardball Times w/stats from the draft:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_ ... e-numbers/

2010 MLB Draft by the numbers
Posted by Jeff Sackmann
For most fans, it's easy to lose interest in the draft after the few couple of rounds. For the geekier of us, there are 1500 new players to analyze!

A good starting point is to look at the overall trends of the draft. Not every team takes the same approach. Even the same front office might go in a radically different direction than they did the previous year. To start with, here's a look at how each team balanced their draft between pitchers and hitters, and which talent pools they drew from:

TEAM Bat Pitch 4YR JC HS
ARI 24 25 32 6 11
ATL 31 20 23 15 13
BAL 27 21 25 9 14
BOS 26 26 16 3 33
CHC 19 31 21 14 15
CHW 24 27 28 8 15
CIN 23 27 30 6 14
CLE 22 28 23 11 16
COL 24 27 25 7 19
DET 26 25 31 6 14

TEAM Bat Pitch 4YR JC HS
FLA 22 28 29 11 10
HOU 26 26 24 3 25
KC 23 27 35 6 9
LAA 30 24 31 7 16
LAD 27 23 21 11 18
MIL 22 28 31 5 14
MIN 20 30 28 9 13
NYM 20 29 34 4 11
NYY 22 28 24 7 19
OAK 26 24 31 4 15

TEAM Bat Pitch 4YR JC HS
PHI 21 29 27 8 15
PIT 18 32 17 7 26
SDP 26 24 27 8 15
SEA 20 28 29 3 16
SF 25 25 33 8 9
STL 26 26 35 6 11
TB 25 28 23 10 20
TEX 22 31 25 3 25
TOR 24 32 14 7 35
WAS 27 23 24 14 12

TEAM Bat Pitch 4YR JC HS
Total 718 802 796 226 498
Average 23.9 26.7 26.5 7.5 16.6

The average team picked a few more pitchers than hitters, and got a little more than half of their new players from four-year colleges. The most noteworthy standouts are the Blue Jays and Pirates, two teams that went very pitching-heavy, and the Braves and Dodgers, who picked the most hitters.

In the type-of-school breakdown, what strikes me is the huge number of high schoolers selected by the Red Sox (33) and Blue Jays (35). No one else picked more than 26! On the flip side, the Royals went very college-heavy, choosing only nine prep players.

Batters and pitchers by type of school

Here's a more detailed breakdown using the same parameters as the previous table:

TEAM 4Y-Bat 4Y-Pit JC-Bat JC-Pit HS-Bat HS-Pit
ARI 18 14 2 4 4 7
ATL 11 12 9 6 11 2
BAL 15 10 6 3 6 8
BOS 7 9 1 2 18 15
CHC 10 11 3 11 6 9
CHW 10 18 4 4 10 5
CIN 15 15 1 5 7 7
CLE 9 14 5 6 8 8
COL 12 13 3 4 9 10
DET 16 15 1 5 9 5

TEAM 4Y-Bat 4Y-Pit JC-Bat JC-Pit HS-Bat HS-Pit
FLA 10 19 7 4 5 5
HOU 11 13 1 2 14 11
KC 16 19 2 4 5 4
LAA 15 16 4 3 11 5
LAD 12 9 7 4 8 10
MIL 15 16 1 4 6 8
MIN 7 21 3 6 10 3
NYM 13 21 1 3 6 5
NYY 9 15 1 6 12 7
OAK 12 19 3 1 11 4

TEAM 4Y-Bat 4Y-Pit JC-Bat JC-Pit HS-Bat HS-Pit
PHI 11 16 2 6 8 7
PIT 11 6 1 6 6 20
SDP 16 11 3 5 7 8
SEA 12 17 1 2 7 9
SF 19 14 3 5 3 6
STL 17 18 4 2 5 6
TB 11 12 3 7 11 9
TEX 13 12 0 3 9 16
TOR 5 9 3 4 16 19
WAS 14 10 8 6 5 7

TEAM 4Y-Bat 4Y-Pit JC-Bat JC-Pit HS-Bat HS-Pit
Total 372 424 93 133 253 245
Average 12.4 14.1 3.1 4.4 8.4 8.2

The Pirates didn't select nearly as many high schoolers as did the Jays or Red Sox, but man oh man, did they take some young pitching. Their draft suggests they are willing to take chances on raw arms—in addition to all the prep pitchers, in later rounds they chose Kelson Brown, a shortstop from Division 3 Linfield with limited pitching experience, and Stephen Lumpkins, a 6'8" lefty from American University, where he played basketball. (They don't have a baseball team there.) It's not India, but it's about as close as you can get in the Rule 4.

Position by position

Here's one more look at the draft as a whole. This time we break it down by position, as well as type of school. (I won't clog up THT Live with 30 posts doing this for every team, but you can find those starting today at the College Splits blog, where we're recapping the draft in a truly inappropriate amount of detail.)

Pos 4YR JC HS Total
RHP 296 98 187 581
LHP 128 35 58 221
C 81 9 45 135
1B 42 11 18 71
2B 38 6 11 55
3B 35 6 20 61
SS 54 10 62 126
IF 2 1 1 4
LF 29 9 4 42
CF 47 19 58 124
RF 23 10 22 55
OF 17 11 12 40
UTL 3 1 0 4
DH 1 0 0 1

Total 796 226 498

You're wondering about that lone designated hitter, right? It's Russell Moldenhauer, drafted 716th overall by the Nationals, a big lefty bat from the University of Texas and owner of a .503 adjusted wOBA this year. I wish him the best, but suspect that he probably isn't Washington's designated hitter of the future.

Edgy DC
Jun 11 2010 10:02 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

So the Mets were very four-year-heavy, particularly in terms of pitchers.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2010 08:46 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

John Sickels gives his evaluation

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2010 04:00 PM
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Signed a bunch of college folk:

[list:1ncpnfxj][*:1ncpnfxj]Fourth-round pick outfielder Cory Vaughn (San Diego State)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]Seventh-round pick RHP Jeff Walters (Georgia)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]Eighth-round pick RHP Kenny McDowall (College of Southern Nevada)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]Ninth-round pick RHP Jacob deGrom (Stetson)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]11th-round pick LHP Adam Kolarek (Maryland)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]12th-round pick RHP Bret Mitchell (Minnesota State)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]13th-round pick third baseman Brian Harrison (Furman)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]14th-round pick second baseman James Brown (University of the Pacific)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]15th-round selection outfielder Tillman Pugh (Sonoma State)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]16th-round pick RHP Ryan Fraser (Memphis)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]17th-round pick RHP Chad Sheppard (Northwestern State)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]18th-round pick RHP A.J. Pinera (University of Tampa)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]19th-round pick RHP Jonathan Koutis (Embry-Riddle)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]20th-round pick first baseman Luke Stewart (Alabama-Birmingham)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]22nd-round pick shortstop Brandon Brown (University of South Alabama)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]25th-round selection RHP Peter Birdwell (Vanguard University)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]26th-round pick shortstop James Butler (Mississippi State)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]27th-round pick RHP Michael Weldon (Wayland Baptist University)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]28th-round pick LHP Jeremy Gould (Duke)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]29th-round selection LHP Hamilton Bennett (Tennessee Wesleyan College)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]30th-round pick LHP Joshua Edgin (Francis Marion University)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]32nd-round pick catcher Patrick Farrell (Regis University)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]33rd-round pick RHP Hunter Carnevale (University of the Pacific)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]34th-round selection shortstop Justin Schafer (UC-Davis)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj]
[*:1ncpnfxj]37th-round pick outfielder Dylan Brown (University of Tampa)[/*:m:1ncpnfxj][/list:u:1ncpnfxj]

Edgy DC
Jul 23 2010 09:00 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Source says MLB unhappy with #Mets for giving 24th rd pick Erik Goeddel $500k because he's a college kid in 24th round, could set precedent
about 13 hours ago via web
.joe_demayo
Joe DeMayo

Yay!

The Second Spitter
Jul 23 2010 09:06 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Signed a bunch of college folk:

[*]19th-round pick RHP Jonathan Koutis (Embry-Riddle)


It's Jonathan Kountis and I'm adopting him. (Poor kid, Fman's gonna have a field day with him).

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2010 09:22 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Edgy DC wrote:
Source says MLB unhappy with #Mets for giving 24th rd pick Erik Goeddel $500k because he's a college kid in 24th round, could set precedent
about 13 hours ago via web
.joe_demayo
Joe DeMayo

Yay!



This has been one of those singings 'rumored' for weeks now but not officially announced at least in part because of it being over-slot and the irrational fear of triggering an avalanche.
Of course I prefer they just tell MLB to stick it up their ass if they don't like it but it's not like the Mets have a history of doing that.

Having said all that, I have no idea what it is about this particular guy that makes them cough up the extra bucks and, why, if they decided he was worth it, they didn't pick him several rounds earlier.




Meanwhile, I've heard nothing about their 1st round pick Matt Harvey although first round signings all over the league have been going very slowly this year.
August 15th deadline.

Edgy DC
Jul 23 2010 09:25 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

There's excited reports about him out there. I don't know if they're credible.

I'm not happy for the Mets' sake so much as I'm happy for Amuhrica when anybody makes honest offers that undercut this anti-competitive policy.

Frayed Knot
Aug 13 2010 02:49 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Not to panic but ... signing deadline for 2010 draft picks is Monday.

Mets have actually already signed all of their first 20 picks except for 1st pick (7th overall) Matt Harvey & 6th rounder Greg Peavey
(also signed 13 of the following 15 choices)

That Harvey hasn't signed and that we haven't heard a whole lot about it isn't that unusual. He's expected to sign "over slot" and when that happens the clubs keep that info a secret until the very end lest all of the top picks use the amount the other guys signed for as leverage in their negotiations. If all these deals get announced just before (or even after) the deadline then no one gets an advantage and MLB keeps pretending that its precious 'slotting' system works.

Have no idea what the story is with Peavey.

If one of the back-round guys hasn't signed yet he probably won't at this point so it looks like John Franco Jr. isn't in our immediate future -- http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/ ... ?team=1013

metirish
Aug 16 2010 07:24 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

@SI_JonHeyman: #mets no. 1 pick matt harvey, rhp from unc, has been seeking $4.5 mil

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2010 09:09 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Not sure what the "slot" figure for the 7th pick is supposed to be so I don't know whether $4.5 is super-high or only kind of high.
That Harvey - and most of the rest of the top 10 picks - were going to ask for above-slot money was pretty much a given.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 16 2010 09:38 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Jamie Taillon (#2) signed for a reported $5 million bonus, and the #18 and #24 guys signed for $2.3M and $1.8M, respectively.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2010 10:00 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

There is/was a supposed sizable gap between the top 4 picks and the group after that - so if Tallion got "only" $5mil then Harvey might be pricing himself out if he holds out for $4.5
On the other hand, I don't think that price is all that high for a 7th pick. Yonder Alonso - a college 1B drafted 11 spots ahead of Ike in the same draft - got right about $4.5 as the 7th pick two years ago. Sometimes it depends on not just the money but how it all gets structured and how many years it's spread out over.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 16 2010 10:14 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Bryce Harper signs:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5468993

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 16 2010 10:26 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Mets sign Harvey:

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/8/17/16269 ... sign-draft

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 16 2010 10:43 PM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

6th-rounder Greg Peavey, too.

Nothing as yet on Memphis Tiger/Cape Cod League terror/23rd-round longshot Drew Martinez.

Edgy DC
Aug 17 2010 05:58 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Does Harper get to continue wearing his signature Ace Frehley eye black as a pro?

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 17 2010 06:22 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Wow... very hot doggy.

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2010 07:22 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

-- Matt Harvey, rhp, Mets (No.7): His $2.525 million bonus was $347,000 over slot and the largest paid by New York since it gave Mike Pelfrey a team-record $3.55 million (as part of a $5.25 million big league contract) in 2005.


It is NOT - unlike Pelfrey & also Humber before him - a 'Major League' contract, something that would have put him immediately on the 40-man and shorten his timetable to the majors.
Not sure what his workload in college was but, either way, I doubt we'll see anything of him this year until maybe the fall/winter leagues.



Harper got an ML deal with Washington which is a bit risky for a guy who'd only be going into his Sr year of HS normally. The only other one I can remember who got a ML deal any younger was the absolutely idiotic deal the Yanx gave the then 16 y/o Wily Mo Pena.

Several picks in the top half of the 1st round wound up NOT signing, including #6 Barret Loux to the DBacks who earlier in the week failed a physical
also #9 Karsten Whitson, a HS pitcher who was rumored to be one of the Mets top choices. He chose college over San Diego's money.
#14 Dylan Covey (Brewers) another HS pitcher who shockingly was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes recently. Will also head to college instead.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 20 2010 11:18 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Going overslot on a couple of dudes notwithstanding, as per Jim Callis of Baseball America-- in the latter portion of this Times game article from yesterday-- the Mets' total spending on draft picks remained somewhat underwhelming:

But at least by one measurement, the Mets are spending more money than they were a year ago. In 2010, according to Baseball America, the team spent $3.85 million in signing nine of their top 10 picks, including the $2.52 million used to sign Matt Harvey, the North Carolina pitcher who was their No. 1 pick and was represented by Scott Boras.

That was twice what they spent in 2009, when the Mets finished dead last in spending on top draft picks. This year, they will finish ahead of three division rivals — the Phillies, the Florida Marlins and the Braves.

But Jim Callis, Baseball America ’s executive editor, said the Mets’ total spending on draft picks — $4.72 million — ranked 20th out of 30 M.L.B. teams.

Callis considers this odd given that the Mets should have considerable financial resources from their new stadium and cable television network.

“It looks like business as usual for the team,” Callis said. “The question is why they are not being a lot more aggressive.”

Aggressiveness in this instance would be the willingness to consistently draft players in the top 10 rounds who are higher rated than others still available and almost certain to ask for more money. Yet the Mets do not necessarily do that. “The Mets are conservative year after year after year,” he said.

The Mets’ second-round pick this year was Blake Forsythe, a catcher from Tennessee with above-average power who signed for $392,400. Their third-round pick was Cory Vaughn, an outfielder from San Diego State University and the son of the former major league slugger Greg Vaughn. He received $240,300. Callis said both signings were slightly above what Major League Baseball recommended teams spend in those rounds.

The Yankees, meanwhile, again spent more than the Mets on the top 10 rounds, shelling out $5.13 million in 2010, including $950,000 on their top pick, Cito Culver, a shortstop from Rochester.

The Mets declined to comment on their strategy in drafting and signing picks. Although they have been widely criticized in recent years for not having a good farm system, they have produced three good rookies this season in first baseman Ike Davis, starting pitcher Jon Niese and catcher Josh Thole.

Other young players like Ruben Tejada and Fernando Martinez are now playing with the Mets, but whether they will hit well enough to be real factors in the future remains to be seen.

Edgy DC
Aug 20 2010 11:26 AM
Re: I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

Can they please at least acknowledge that money spent in the draft largely correlates with draft position? They were in much better position in 2010 than 2009, but still. Picking seventh and then 89th and 153rd doesn't really put you in a position to drop the same dollars as some others.

Anybody see that ninth-rounder throw 103 the other night?