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Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2010 09:36 AM

It's bad enough that he's being beat by a Phillie, but an undeserving Phillie at that! Cast those ballots! We need to win this game for a change.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 09:42 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I got caught up in Wright Fever and cast several ballots moments ago. I certainly hope whichever non-MFYs I all but randomly chose on the A.L. side appreciate my support as well.

Ceetar Jun 29 2010 09:46 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I'll cast another 25 or 50 for Wright (and Pagan and Reyes) when I get home from work. Not that it _really_ matters because Wright will make the team anyway, but he should start. Did you know that you can vote for the home run derby too? And that Wright's on the list. (I don't buy into the ruined swing thing) Are they obligated to do so if they win the vote? Did they okay it before hand?

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 09:49 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

He deserves to start over Polanco, certainly, but Rolen and Zimmerman are also in that mix.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2010 10:06 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: He deserves to start over Polanco, certainly, but Rolen and Zimmerman are also in that mix. What? Are you kidding me? There is no "mix." There is "Met" and "people who don't deserve to start." I'm in here cutting deals with Tigers fans to get them to vote for Wright in exchange for players who will happy to get three days the hell out of Detroit -- Cabraera, for one -- and you're even considering other players?

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 10:09 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:12 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm in here cutting deals with Tigers fans to get them to vote for Wright in exchange for players who will happy to get three days the hell out of Detroit -- Cabraera, for one -- and you're even considering other players? Somehow, this is a lot less unseemly when it's done on an individual basis than it is when team marketing departments form unholy allegiances.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 10:13 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation. That attitude is why God singled out your Magic Is Back posters for water damage.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2010 10:14 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation. Hmmmm. Can I borrow your e-mail address.....

Fman99 Jun 29 2010 10:16 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I vote once and that's it. I like to have my input but I'm not going to try and "beat the system."

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 10:17 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation. Hmmmm. Can I borrow your e-mail address..... Sounds like you've been covering politics lately.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:29 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I vote once and that's it. I like to have my input but I'm not going to try and "beat the system." Point of clarification: 25 votes per human-established e-mail address is the system. I'm doing nothing against the rules here except for employer-time-theft, stealing wireless internet access at home, and the occasional baby-napping-and-sale.

Centerfield Jun 29 2010 10:44 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation. Really? How so?

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 10:54 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

How is it an insult?

Centerfield Jun 29 2010 10:55 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Yes, just curious what aspect of it bothers you.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 11:02 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads. One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way. The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2010 11:11 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads. One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way. The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded. One ticket, one ballot = Yankee punks getting elected. That gives an unfair advantage to A) people who can afford to go to games, B) teams that draw better than others. Not saying the whole thing isn't flawed. But it seems to be better than others. Watching Placido Polanco walk out there to start the game would only make it more flawed. (Then again, watching Derek F. Jeter wave at balls hit to either side of him makes it less flawed.)

Centerfield Jun 29 2010 11:19 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads. One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way. The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded. Good points. I was always struck by the "vote up to 25 times" rule. With the internet, it's hard to police things, but you're right, encouraging ballot stuffing is pretty lame.

metirish Jun 29 2010 11:22 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season?

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2010 11:38 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

metirish wrote: I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season? For a few years that was the case. The money raised by the games was (at least partially) going towards a players' retirement account - back when the idea of that was just getting going - so the players were pretty keen on the idea. As a real pension plan started to develop the two-game idea wasn't needed.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 11:39 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

1959 to 1962 -- also proved a bit too much of a good thing in public perception.

Ceetar Jun 29 2010 11:41 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

metirish wrote: I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season? I feel taht way in April and May. I figure Mets fans are pessimistic morons who want to hate their own team and don't want to vote for the players to be, as baised as it is, the best of the best. Then June comes around, I realize I just spent 20 minutes planting imaginary crops and harvesting imaginary eggs of a high school 'friend' I haven't talked to in years, and I go vote.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 11:49 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

"So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!" Now that's a slogan we can all get behind.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 11:52 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Indeed. That would make a nice subway poster campaign.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 11:53 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Edgy DC wrote: Indeed. That would make a nice subway poster campaign. And nice collectables, too, as long as you keep them in the attic.

Ceetar Jun 29 2010 11:56 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

G-Fafif wrote: "So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!" Now that's a slogan we can all get behind. Maybe it just needs the right twist.."Vote for Polanco to get a much needed nap and spend three days on the couch!"

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 11:59 AM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: "So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!" Now that's a slogan we can all get behind. Maybe it just needs the right twist.."Vote for Polanco to get a much needed nap and spend three days on the couch!" "Make Placido's All-Star break that much more placid."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 12:04 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

"Please... won't you help take this massive weight off my shoulders, if only for a little while?"

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 12:10 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Paid for by the committee to give Placido Polanco a blow, some pessimistic moron Mets fan chairman.

Centerfield Jun 29 2010 12:19 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

People ask Placido Polanco for his autograph because they mistake him for Placido Domingo. Meanwhile, Placido Domingo has been known to ask David Wright for his autograph. David refuses to give it to him because his name is "Placido".

bmfc1 Jun 29 2010 12:26 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Darn! Polanco and Utley to the DL: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/stor ... pn_5340054

metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2010 12:34 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

bmfc1 wrote: Darn! Polanco and Utley to the DL: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/stor ... pn_5340054 An even bigger DL fraud than Ollie. Polanco knows he's tempting the wrath of the baseball gods by accepting the stupidity of vote-happy Phillies fans and steps aside, giving David his rightful place as a starter. Hell, he wants the NL to win, too, knowing what happened to the Phils last year.

Ceetar Jun 29 2010 12:39 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

I guess 3 (I have no ambition to look up if the Phillies are one that get 4) days off wasn't enough for polanco. Wright will likely get to beat being Jetlagged for the Giants series by going to west coast time early.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 01:10 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Ceetar wrote: Wright will likely get to beat being Jetlagged for the Giants series by going to west coast time early. Win-Win!

Edgy DC Jun 29 2010 01:24 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

Centerfield wrote: People ask Placido Polanco for his autograph because they mistake him for Placido Domingo. Meanwhile, Placido Domingo has been known to ask David Wright for his autograph. David refuses to give it to him because his name is "Placido". Out of the doorway, the bullets rip.

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2010 02:48 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

That MLB has apparently no problem with each team just blatantly begging for votes with no question as to whether they are actually deserved or not just disgusts me. The only team-led campaign I liked was for the one "extra" spot that they started doing a few years ago when ChiSox catcher (and all-around pest) AJ Pierzinsky was one of the choices. This was coming off a week where AJ had been sucker-punched in an IL game vs the Cubs following a home-plate collision. The Sox encouraged their voters to go out and 'Punch AJ' for the duration of the voting period.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2010 04:06 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

To be fair to the Mets, they haven't asked a soul to vote for Daniel Murphy or Carlos Beltran this year. But what the hell is CB doing on the ballot? Murphy was penciled in 'til the final weekend of spring training, OK, but Beltran's been out since January. Not that Gary Matthews Jr. on the ballot would have looked any better.

Zvon Jun 29 2010 04:20 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Please... won't you help take this massive weight off my shoulders, if only for a little while?" Ohh MAH GOD! I thought seeing him on TV added a few pounds to that cranium. But it really is inhumanly huge. He must have to carve out the inside of his batting helmet to get it on that pumpkin head. Where does he hail from? The Andromeda Galaxy? That creeps me out even without a pulsing vein, like his relatives on Star Trek.

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2010 04:48 PM Re: Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

G-Fafif wrote: ... what the hell is CB doing on the ballot? Murphy was penciled in 'til the final weekend of spring training, OK, but Beltran's been out since January. Because MLB expected him to be back a month or so into the season and the Mets probably would have objected had he been left off. As always, MOST of the problems with AS voting can be traced to the fact that they start the process too early in the season.