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2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Willets Point Jun 25 2010 08:28 PM

The Round of 16 begins tomorrow. June 26 10:00 am ET: Uruguay vs. South Korea June 26 2:30 pm ET: USA vs. Ghana The winners of these games meet in a quarterfinal on July 2 at 2:30 PM ET June 27 10:00 am ET: Germany vs. England June 27 2:30 pm ET: Argentina vs. Mexico The winners of these games meet in a quarterfinal on July 3 at 10 am ET. June 28 10:00 am ET: Netherlands vs. Slovakia June 28 2:30 pm ET: Brazil vs. Chile The winners of these games meet in a quarterfinal on July 2 at 10 am ET. June 29 10:00 am ET: Paraguay vs. Japan June 29 2:30 pm ET: Spain vs Portugal The winners of these games meet in a quarterfinal on July 3 at 2:30 PM ET The classic rivalry of Germany vs. England should be entertaining. I'm also intrigued by the all-Iberian matchup of Spain vs. Portugal. Actually, all of the European teams are playing European teams.

Frayed Knot Jun 25 2010 08:35 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

So from here on in this tourney is set-up in an NCAA hoops-type bracket, right? IOW, all match-ups and potential future match-ups are pre-set and won't be re-arranged depending on the outcomes?

Willets Point Jun 25 2010 08:43 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Correct. There's an actual bracket on this page for your perusing pleasure: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/kostage.html I imagine someone who is good at handcoding html could add a bracket to this thread. Are you up for it Edgy?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2010 08:47 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Mexico could be a funky little cut fastball of a matchup for Argentina. They've got a LOT of young firepower on the Mexican side, and Argentina's D didn't get all that tested in the group stage. If the Chileans can somehow get on the board early, Brazil-Chile could be a rattlesnake, too.

Willets Point Jun 25 2010 08:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The Argentina-Mexico game is also a rematch of a Round of 16 game from 2006 which Argentina won 2-1 in overtime.

The Second Spitter Jun 25 2010 10:22 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":3ohxc65f]The Argentina-Mexico game is also a rematch of a Round of 16 game from 2006 which Argentina won 2-1 in overtime.[/quote:3ohxc65f] The preferred nomenclature is "extra-time".

Willets Point Jun 25 2010 10:51 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I always feel like I sound like a poseur when I use terms like "pitch," "match," "kit," "side," and "extra time" so I stick to Americanisms.

Frayed Knot Jun 26 2010 05:01 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I understand using 'Americanisms' when it comes to soccer too - but the whole ESPN crew has to can this reflex they have of calling these coming rounds 'The Sweet Sixteen', 'Elite Eight', and 'Final Four'. It sounds really stupid. NOBODY uses those terms except for in college basketball, but since most of the staff at the 'Worldwide Leader' was raised on nothing but college hoops I don't think they can help themselves.

The Second Spitter Jun 26 2010 05:17 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

When I lived in the UK I often used American sport jargon in a soccer context because it really pissed off the Poms. [quote="Frayed Knot"]I understand using 'Americanisms' when it comes to soccer too - but the whole ESPN crew has to can this reflex they have of calling these coming rounds 'The Sweet Sixteen', 'Elite Eight', and 'Final Four'. It sounds really stupid. NOBODY uses those terms except for in college basketball, but since most of the staff at the 'Worldwide Leader' was raised on nothing but college hoops I don't think they can help themselves.

"Final Four" is used in Euroleague basketball, but point taken.

Nymr83 Jun 26 2010 09:25 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Korea has tied it up!

Number 6 Jun 26 2010 09:53 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Uruguay moves on to face the winner of USA/Ghana on a beautiful goal by Suarez.

metirish Jun 26 2010 09:57 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Good game , great goal to win it.

Frayed Knot Jun 26 2010 10:45 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter"]When I lived in the UK I often used American sport jargon in a soccer context because it really pissed off the Poms. [quote="Frayed Knot"]I understand using 'Americanisms' when it comes to soccer too - but the whole ESPN crew has to can this reflex they have of calling these coming rounds 'The Sweet Sixteen', 'Elite Eight', and 'Final Four'. It sounds really stupid. NOBODY uses those terms except for in college basketball, but since most of the staff at the 'Worldwide Leader' was raised on nothing but college hoops I don't think they can help themselves.

"Final Four" is used in Euroleague basketball, but point taken.

Only the fact that I've yet to hear any TV talking head being asked to put his "bracketology" skills to use on the World Cup has kept my remote from meeting the TV screen at high velocity.

Willets Point Jun 26 2010 11:31 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Who is the English commentator who often describes plays as "cynical" or "naive?" He cracks me up just because you never hear an American announcer using that type of vocabulary.

metirish Jun 26 2010 11:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point"]Who is the English commentator who often describes plays as "cynical" or "naive?" He cracks me up just because you never hear an American announcer using that type of vocabulary.

I think you are talking about Ian Darke , did he do the USA/Algeria ? , if so then that's him. I like him , along with Martin Tyler he's one of the big names in British commentating , known as much over there for his boxing blow by blow as his football play by play.

Frayed Knot Jun 26 2010 02:27 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":xkhkskyf]Who is the English commentator who often describes plays as "cynical" or "naive?" He cracks me up just because you never hear an American announcer using that type of vocabulary.[/quote:xkhkskyf] What, you never heard Joe Morgan talking like that? You gotta listen more carefully.

Nymr83 Jun 26 2010 06:47 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

why does MLS continue their season during the world cup?

seawolf17 Jun 26 2010 07:09 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":lappmy6p]Who is the English commentator who often describes plays as "cynical" or "naive?" He cracks me up just because you never hear an American announcer using that type of vocabulary.[/quote:lappmy6p] I don't know, because it's way more fun to watch in Spanish.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 26 2010 07:36 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point"]Correct. There's an actual bracket on this page for your perusing pleasure: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/kostage.html I imagine someone who is good at handcoding html could add a bracket to this thread. Are you up for it Edgy?

How's my HTML doin'?

metirish Jun 26 2010 08:10 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

One feature I dislike about the pre-game coverage that I saw today was Bob Ley trying to put every little fucking detail about the "Lat 16" into terminology that "the folks at home " would understand , "cos a lot of you are probably tuning in for the first time".....yeah , they are all dumb as shit yanks who know shit about anything....I mean . come fucking on and give the audience some credit .

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 07:42 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Does anyone else think that the Uruguay side might-- might-- have more than a puncher's chance to slip past Brazil? The D's been virtually airtight, and they've got a LOT more flair and "punch" in their counterpunch than your typical defense-first SA squad (see: Paraguay). Plus, those unis are flippin' sweet.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 07:59 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I don't, but I've been more wrong than right with respect to this wretched tournament. ENG v GER on now folks - I'd rather eat the rotting anus of a roadkill skunk, than ever listen to "God Save the Queen" again.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 08:30 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

More like that from Klose der Unstoppable Killing Machine should help. (That was an embarrassment from Terry and Cole, OTOH.) It's a joy to watch guys like that operate-- true strikers who may have some physical gifts, but whose plain-and-simple instincts trump them all. (It's also painful when considering what guys with physical skills like Altidore could be with an ounce of Fabiano or Drogba in him.)

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:32 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

2-0 -- this the greatest moment of the World Cup so far -- FUCK YOU IN-GER-LAND!!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2010 08:34 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Geez, England really sucks.

metirish Jun 27 2010 08:34 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Have you ever seen a more static back four than Englands?, 2-0 Germany, they are simply tearing them apart.

Willets Point Jun 27 2010 08:35 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The USA needs to invade and conquer Germany and force all their strikers to become US citizens.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:36 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2010 08:38 AM

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:37 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I don't believe it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2010 08:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Does anyone else think that the Uruguay side might-- might-- have more than a puncher's chance to slip past Brazil? The D's been virtually airtight, and they've got a LOT more flair and "punch" in their counterpunch than your typical defense-first SA squad (see: Paraguay). Plus, those unis are flippin' sweet.

You all are welcome aboard my Uruguayan Bandwagon.

metirish Jun 27 2010 08:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

WTF was the goalie doing on the Upson goal......OMG....Lampard

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2010 08:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Holy hell, bad call!

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:39 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

This game has the hallmarks of an all-time classic.

Willets Point Jun 27 2010 08:40 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Ok, sorry to say, but England was robbed. This sport needs goal judges like in hockey.

metirish Jun 27 2010 08:40 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Game of the tourney right here lads, come on you fucking Germans.

Frayed Knot Jun 27 2010 08:43 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":3i1yyl38]Ok, sorry to say, but England was robbed. This sport needs goal judges like in hockey.[/quote:3i1yyl38] Can't anyone here ref this game? They absolutely need goal judges of some kind. In a sport where scores are so rare, to get one (or more) so blatantly wrong is inexcusable.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:46 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":1upoqj3z]Ok, sorry to say, but England was robbed. This sport needs goal judges like in hockey.[/quote:1upoqj3z] Just like Germany was robbed in the 1966 WC Final.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 08:52 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Great quote from another forum: The goal was in by 2 meters! England totally ripped off! Yep, but then, the principle of reciprocity has been at the cornerstone of the indoeuropean conversation probably since its own inception ;)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 08:54 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

So... karma justifies that one? I mean, I hat the English as much as the next guy, but come on. That FIFA doesn't seem pressed at all to address that sort of thing makes me look just a little more favorably at patchwork intellects like Selig, however late and ineffectual their attempts to fix problems usually are.

metirish Jun 27 2010 08:57 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

forget the video replay, get another fucking ref on each goal line so the fact that the line judge was no where to be seen wouldn't matter...

Willets Point Jun 27 2010 09:01 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

At least England scored another goal in 1966 so they would have won anyway. I don't blame the ref so much because it's ridiculous to expect that one man is going to be able to run back & forth 100 meters, monitor 22 players, and see everything. They have the assistant referees on the touch lines so it's only logical to have goal judges on the goal lines.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:02 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

There are, like, five or six possible, almost-immediately-executable solutions (using match backup refs as goal judges, e.g.) to prevent stuff like this from happening... at least in the knockout round. I mean... the staff is ALREADY ON-SITE. That FIFA has none of them under consideration is absolute mierda del toro.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:03 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1oelbo6e]So... karma justifies that one? I mean, I hat the English as much as the next guy, but come on. That FIFA doesn't seem pressed at all to address that sort of thing makes me look just a little more favorably at patchwork intellects like Selig, however late and ineffectual their attempts to fix problems usually are.[/quote:1oelbo6e] As great as a soccer player he was, Platini makes Bud Selig look like the President of Mensa International, as a sports administrator.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:10 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Oh, Lampard, you sly, unlucky bastard.

metirish Jun 27 2010 09:19 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Freidrich looking like Der Kaiser coming out with the ball from the back.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:23 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Surely they can't come back now...

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:24 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Bonus: Cashley Cunt's having a nightmare of a game.

metirish Jun 27 2010 09:26 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

LOL....LOL....Germany have had two attacks in the last hour and scored both.......England's back line is putrid......a great day to be Irish...

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:27 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

GAME, SET AND MATCH!!!!!!! Hey Ing-er-land: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:29 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2010 09:32 AM

Unless that theoretical backline/goal judge would jump in to help this putrid back four, I suppose he wouldn't help England much. On the other hand... the German offense looks MUCH more dangerous without Ballack, actually. Their attacking speed is allowed to shine without him slowing the pace of play.

metirish Jun 27 2010 09:29 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

This is payback for England's mauling of Germany in Germany a few years back......5-1 I think it was,....Owen with a hat trick that day?

Frayed Knot Jun 27 2010 09:29 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]There are, like, five or six possible, almost-immediately-executable solutions (using match backup refs as goal judges, e.g.) to prevent stuff like this from happening... at least in the knockout round. I mean... the staff is ALREADY ON-SITE. That FIFA has none of them under consideration is absolute mierda del toro.

I get the idea that FIFA is one of those extra-governmental organizations like the NCAA, or IOC, or even WADA that so stubbornly cling to the idea of being absolute lords of their particular fiefdoms that they're reluctant to even admit their own bureaucratic shortcomings much less take steps to correct them.

metirish Jun 27 2010 09:30 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

It's games like this that will get the England fans to start trouble.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2010 09:48 AM

I can't wait to read the kookery in tomorrow's English tabloids.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:39 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Toro!!! Toro!! OLE!!!!!! Schweinsteiger is my man of the match.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:43 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="metirish":15mxonpp]It's games like this that will get the England fans to start trouble.[/quote:15mxonpp] Management at their hotels might save some time if they preemptively charged English clients for estimated damages.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:46 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

First time England concede 4 goals in a WC game since 1954.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:50 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":124qvhax]Schweinsteiger is my man of the match.[/quote:124qvhax] German Men of the Match today are like Lay's-- you can't just have one.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:51 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Özil was brilliant too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 09:55 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Indeed. He and 'Steiger traipsed through the English midfield pretty much at will. Except for that minute in the first half, Neuer was all "nichts in mein Haus," as well.

The Second Spitter Jun 27 2010 09:57 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1dqioqzd]Except for that minute in the first half, Neuer was all "nichts in mein Haus," as well.[/quote:1dqioqzd] Classic. Good luck to Seo in the later game -- I'm going to schlafen.

metirish Jun 27 2010 10:22 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Rooney and Gerrad eh , bloody hell , they were awful in all the games. Upon closer inspection a lot can be asked for Capello too , he came in known as a decisive disciplinarian coach who knew systems. turns out he was in-decisive , look at the goalkeeping situation, his habit of not naming teams until a few hours before the game...and not just to the media but the team too....and a near player uprising that never did rise because it was Terry doing the organizing and well we see what he can do.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 10:31 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="metirish"]Rooney and Gerrad eh , bloody hell , they were awful in all the games. Upon closer inspection a lot can be asked for Capello too , he came in known as a decisive disciplinarian coach who knew systems. turns out he was in-decisive , look at the goalkeeping situation, his habit of not naming teams until a few hours before the game...and not just to the media but the team too....and a near player uprising that never did rise because it was Terry doing the organizing and well we see what he can do.

"Oi! Frankie! Back my play wif Capello, eh, or I'll slip a screamer inside your Spanish wife's near post!"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 01:15 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

So, yeah, these Argentines are pretty good on the attack.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 27 2010 01:29 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

For sure. And no excuses for Mexico's sloppy play, but a shit goal like the first one does deflate a team, I bet. The same could be said for England, too. If it's 2-2 at that point, well who knows. It looked for a minute like the two officials on the first Argentina goal were seriously talking about what to do there. Too bad it was nothing.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 27 2010 01:40 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Holy moly, what a strike by Tevez.

metirish Jun 27 2010 01:46 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

There is no doubt that the off-side goal deflated Mexico but a good team gathers itself and doesn't completely fall apart,and they can't use that goal as an excuse in the second half, as for England , well , the back four doesn't become a unit if that goal stands.

metirish Jun 27 2010 01:48 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

BTW....the enthusiasm of Maradona has become a highlight of this tournament for me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2010 01:48 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Tevez. Wow. Wowee wow. [quote="Metirish":dsz7ks41]There is no doubt that the off-side goal deflated Mexico but a good team gathers itself and doesn't completely fall apart...[/quote:dsz7ks41] And Mexico does fall apart. For all its young legs and firepower, Mexico's as deficient in D at times as any team in the Western Hemisphere; playing the same lineup more than once during qualifying might help their cohesiveness.

metirish Jun 27 2010 01:56 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The winner here plays Germany right? The prospect of Argentina/Germany is mouthwatering.

The Second Spitter Jun 28 2010 01:27 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

metirish Jun 28 2010 07:37 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Postmortem on England.....English FA to take two weeks to decide on Capello....even though they gave him a new contract before WC..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... -got-wrong check out #3 in above link then watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHqxrszXYM

The Second Spitter Jun 28 2010 08:03 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I took out a Pommie chick tonight - I had to pretend I was devastated at England's demise.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2010 08:22 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Um, did you "find the back of her net" four times?

MFS62 Jun 28 2010 08:35 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Now that now that the USA is eliminated, you'll have a much easier time getting belly-up to a bar in the Apple during a mid-week World Cup game. I'm guessing all those "new, dedicated, rabid" American soccer fans we've been hearing about will be finding other things to do during the remainder of the cup games. Those folks would go to the bar to watch, but wouldn't be caught dead at a Red Bulls game. Later

Willets Point Jun 28 2010 08:37 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Well, to be fair, there are lots of reasons to not be caught dead at a Red Bulls game.

Willets Point Jun 28 2010 08:52 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

My Oranje are up 1-nil at the half.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2010 09:24 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

FIFA has apparently heard the voices of the fans and decided to do something about the bad calls. They're going to ban instant replays at the stadiums.

metirish Jun 28 2010 09:28 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Frayed Knot":egwu3v5v]FIFA has apparently heard the voices of the fans and decided to do something about the bad calls. They're going to ban instant replays at the stadiums.[/quote:egwu3v5v] Not surprising, a pig headed bunch the lot of them. Do as they do in the NHL, have a crew decide on calls like off-sides and goal line calls, not on fouls or anything like that. The crew could be based in a special truck/room at WC Headquarters in the host country, and really , how long would it take to review the Lampard goal?

MFS62 Jun 28 2010 09:31 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Frayed Knot":1hza0qm1]FIFA has apparently heard the voices of the fans and decided to do something about the bad calls. They're going to ban instant replays at the stadiums.[/quote:1hza0qm1] That's so funny, I'm not sure if it was an excellent joke or not. For real? Later

seawolf17 Jun 28 2010 09:56 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1q9gejfl]Um, did you "find the back of her net" four times?[/quote:1q9gejfl] Dammit, fman hacked JCL's account again.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2010 01:02 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="MFS62"][quote="Frayed Knot"]FIFA has apparently heard the voices of the fans and decided to do something about the bad calls. They're going to ban instant replays at the stadiums.

That's so funny, I'm not sure if it was an excellent joke or not.
For real?

Heard something briefly on the radio this morning. Didn't catch any details.
I think the real story is that they're looking into banning the showing of replays at the stadium citing harassment of the ref who was part of the disagreement in the Mex/Arg match.

metirish Jun 28 2010 01:09 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Brazil take the lead 1-0 with an excellent headed goal from a corner....goalies positioning was suspect though.

metirish Jun 28 2010 01:12 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Fabiano makes it 2-0....looking all too easy right now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2010 01:29 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Attack-attack-go mentality, suspect backline, secretly shaky keeper... Chile is like Poor Man's Argentina, aren't they?

The Second Spitter Jun 29 2010 06:06 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2010 06:49 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Um, did you "find the back of her net" four times?

If we're still doing the BOC thing, I surely this is nomination worthy. But no I didn't, she told me she was a Tottenham Hotspur and MFY fan, which is the hottest thing a woman has ever said to me.

I think I'll be rooting for the Netherlands for the rest of the tournament, only because, aside from Hungary, they are the country most deserving of a WC title. I don't think they'll win it, though.

Btw, Barcelona have released Thierry Henry, and according to the Snooze he's close to joining NYRB -- there's an angry Irishman in the Bronx who must be licking his lips.

The Second Spitter Jun 29 2010 06:48 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

redundant

A Boy Named Seo Jun 29 2010 08:23 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter"][quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Um, did you "find the back of her net" four times?

If we're still doing the BOC thing, I surely this is nomination worthy. But no I didn't, she told me she was a Tottenham Hotspur and MFY fan, which is the hottest thing a woman has ever said to me.

I think I'll be rooting for the Netherlands for the rest of the tournament, only because, aside from Hungary, they are the country most deserving of a WC title. I don't think they'll win it, though.

Btw, Barcelona have released Thierry Henry, and according to the Snooze he's close to joining NYRB -- there's an angry Irishman in the Bronx who must be licking his lips.

Spurs + MFY would make for some heated, angry lovemaking, no doubt.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 08:59 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Japan is looking to remain the last Asian team standing against the lesser of the two 'Guays. So far it is tied 0-0 at the half. Will this be the first game to be decided by penalty kicks at this year's Cup?

A Boy Named Seo Jun 29 2010 09:03 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I hope not. I like the looks of that Honda guy. Where's he play?

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 09:11 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Keisuke Honda plays for CSKA Moscow. Whenever I see him play I can't help thinking: First gear, it's all right Second gear, I'll lean right Third gear, hang on tight Faster, it's all right.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 09:41 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I remember doing the "Who's THAT Guy?" when I caught the CSKA-Sevilla Champs' League tilts from this year. Set up one goal, put a free kick in off the keeper(though not quite as nasty as the one he nailed against the Danes, still pretty damn hard). Blondie likely made himself a LOT of money this WC.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:07 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Japanese keeper Kawashima is earning his keep in Free Soccer Time, with nice positioning on a couple of Paraguayan rushes and a nice smother of a point-blank attempt from the forward Valdez.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 10:12 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

15 minutes to go and then PKs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:28 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":1chf0f3l]15 minutes to go and then PKs.[/quote:1chf0f3l] Who ya got in a shootout? Has to be Japan, no?

metirish Jun 29 2010 10:35 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

peanalties http://futbol.univision.com/fifacopamun ... s-en-vivo/

metirish Jun 29 2010 10:37 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The outcome here could potentially effect Takahashi tonight

metirish Jun 29 2010 10:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The Japanese goalie has guessed the correct way twice, he'll stop one , come on Japan

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 10:40 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Damn, Japan misses.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:40 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Oh, Komano.

seawolf17 Jun 29 2010 10:41 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

And it all comes down to one PK. No pressure, Japanese Goalie.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 10:43 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Paraquay gets the honor of having their asses handed to them by Spain or Portugal in the Quarterfinal.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:43 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2010 10:44 AM

Okay, so Paraguay gets to get barbecued in the quarters by Spain. (It'll be Spain.) OE: Ha.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 29 2010 10:44 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

My browser quit just before the miss. You mean the shooter missed the goal completely?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 10:44 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Swerver smack against the crossbar. (Keeper was nowhere near it.)

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 01:21 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

150 minutes without a goal in today's games. This is getting to be too much - or too little - even for a soccerhead like me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 01:37 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":3r6a2ksy]150 minutes without a goal in today's games. This is getting to be too much - or too little - even for a soccerhead like me.[/quote:3r6a2ksy] I can understand it-- sorta-- when Paraguay's involved. When it's Spain and Portugal? Combined with the diving and surreptitious slapping, it's a little tougher to take.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 01:52 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

GOAL! for David Villa of Spain. Almost orgasmic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 01:56 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

After several near-misses in a row-- Llorente header saved beautifully by Eduardo, David Villa swerving one just wide-- you could feel something building, you know?

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 01:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Great save by Portugal's keeper. Spain should really be up by 3-4 goals but for him.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 02:01 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The rest of the Portuguese side are becoming rather thuggish.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 02:07 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Well, they're losing to a superior side from a neighboring country, and there doesn't appear to be much they can do about it, since apparently they can only score on North Korea. All of which probably makes them quite ornery. This backline's really gone to seed in the second half, though, hasn't it? (Old legs?)

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 02:20 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

One thug leaves the field early.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 02:21 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Though they've been slowdancing everytime the ball's been sent to Spanish goal area, that looked kinda like a crap call. Meanwhile, for Llorente, it's chance after chance. He's really put a charge into the Spanish attack since coming on in the second half. LESSON: Fernando Torres kinda sucks. Ouchy Fernando Torres sucks more. Start Llorente next match from jump.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 02:23 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Okay, so Paraguay gets to get barbecued in the quarters by Spain. (It'll be Spain.) OE: Ha.

It is Spain.

metirish Jun 29 2010 03:01 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I thought Portugal were very disapointing, they lacked ambition, they like to defend and break teams on the coiunter attack, like Inter Milan in many ways. This accounts for you scoring first but when they needed to chase the game they were shit out of ideas. This style also limits Ronaldo, he needs the ball.

Willets Point Jun 29 2010 03:15 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

A couple of days off until the World Cup returns on Friday: Jul 2 @ 10:00 am Netherlands vs. Brazil Jul 2 @ 2:30 pm Uruguay vs. Ghana Winners of these two quarterfinals meet in the first semifinal on July 6 at 2:30 pm. Jul 3 @ 10:00 am Argentina vs. Germany Jul 3 @ 2:30 pm Paraguay vs. Spain Winners of these two quarterfinals meet in the second semifinal on July 7 at 2:30 pm. These look like some good matchups especially Netherlands/Brazil and Argentina/Germany.

The Second Spitter Jun 29 2010 05:00 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":1udnxc9e]The rest of the Portuguese side are becoming rather thuggish.[/quote:1udnxc9e] Oh, they already have an impressive resume in that regard: - In 1999 one of their players was sent-off in a World Cup Qualifier v Germany for taking to long to walk off the field after he was subbed while Portugal were leading 1-0. The Portuguese players remonstrated with referee for 10 minutes. Refused to play on. Finally the game resumed they conceded two late goals. After the game they surrounded the ref provocatively. - In the Euro 2000 semi-final, three of their players ganged-up and manhandled the referee after he awarded a penalty against France. Each were given lengthy bans. - During the 2002 World Cup, Joăo Pinto punched a referee in the stomach after he was sent-off. He received a 6 month ban. - After the Euro 2004 Final, most of the Portugese players refused to shake the Greek players hands when they lost.

The Second Spitter Jun 29 2010 05:00 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

please delete - not sure why I'm double posting all the time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2010 05:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Classy, Crissy.

metirish Jun 29 2010 06:07 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Classy, Crissy.

One of many "superstars" that went to this WC and failed to enhance their game and status, he of course took his down a few notches. I'm telling you right now he should never have forced his way of of Man United.

metirish Jun 29 2010 06:09 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="metirish":1jn9tyuq]The outcome here could potentially effect Takahashi tonight[/quote:1jn9tyuq] Like LaRussa I'll never admit to being a genius but feel free to tell me I am.

Giant Squidlike Creature Jun 29 2010 06:56 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

German cephalopod knows all.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 08:04 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

NED V BRA - 5 mins in and the referee is already losing control of the game.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 08:11 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Brazil are tearing the Dutch apart. 1-0 Robinho 10'

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 08:12 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":36966lo3]Brazil are tearing the Dutch apart. 1-0 Robinho 10'[/quote:36966lo3] wow

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 08:50 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Great save on that Kaka strike or it coulda been 2-nuthin'. Dutch had a break close to the end of a half but Robben (?) couldn't get off a shot or pass and Brazil closed up on him and that was that. Brazil really looks awesome, huh?

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 08:52 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

HT: 1-0 Brasil The Dutch came back, but they really didn't create many (if any) clear-cut chances. Robben's had better games. Sneijder was MIA for most of the half. Brasil stretched the Dutch every time the ball was played out wide, horrific defending by the Netherlands, really. The game's been played in fits and spurts -- too many niggly little fouls has impinged on its quality. The ref's been far too lenient.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 08:57 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Brazil's back line is spee-dee.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:11 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Geez, Bastios should have received a second yellow. Horrible decision. Sneijder scores from a speculative cross, headed in by Melo (og) 1-1.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:11 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Awesome goal for the Netherlands. My Oranje are still in it.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 09:12 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Brazil can't stop scoring! We gotta game now, kids.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:13 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

PMSL! Van Persie's hurt himself. Knowing Arsenal's luck, he'll be out until Xmas.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 09:15 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":94rejtl6]PMSL! Van Persie's hurt himself. Knowing Arsenal's luck, he'll be out until Xmas.[/quote:94rejtl6] Hilarious, just thinkin the same thing.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:17 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Tough call. I'm no expert on how goals are awarded but I believe Sneijder deserves credit even if it glance off of Felipe Melo.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:19 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Not sure. I think the FIFA Own Goal Committee (yes, it really exists) applies a 'but for' test.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 09:25 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

GOL

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:26 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Sneijder scores with a header from a corner after a flick-on by Kuyt. 2-1 NED

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:26 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Sneijder definitely gets credit for this one!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 09:31 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Melo not mellow. Muy malo!

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:32 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2bmnu6f1]Melo not mellow. Muy malo![/quote:2bmnu6f1] I just got a phone call and missed what lead to the red card. What happened?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 09:33 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

And Man of the Match Melo stomps on a prone Sneijder... and Brazil's chances.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 09:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Brazil looks confused and antsy on both attack and defense.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 09:45 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Dutch work together as a team very nicely. Plus those crazy block numerals on their unis are fresh.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:50 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Bye Bye Brasil -- Five-star choke job.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:50 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Hup Holland Hup!!!

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 09:51 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3kaqjak9] Plus those crazy block numerals on their unis are fresh.[/quote:3kaqjak9] Always the connoisseur!

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 09:54 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Wow, sorta unlucky result for Brazil, huh? Not like they were outplayed or anything. Still, sorta happy to see em out for some reason.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 09:56 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I tuned in seconds before the Netherlands first goal (or Brazil's own goal). Brazil looked like a mess for as long as I was watching. From reading this thread it appears Brazil had a better first half.

The Second Spitter Jul 02 2010 10:02 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

A QF exit usually means 5-6 people in Brasil will top themselves. I'd really love an ARG-NED final -- replay of '78.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 10:04 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That would be my take. Brazil seemed to get worried the second they were equalized, as if they knew another goal was fated. And of course they started getting kicky and stompy.

seawolf17 Jul 02 2010 12:19 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

If the Netherlands win this thing, and I'm the head of tourism for some country that's a middle-of-the-road soccer power, I put all my advertising dollars into getting Willets to visit in 2014.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 12:47 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

letls go charurras

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 12:51 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="seawolf17":3acvl0rt]If the Netherlands win this thing, and I'm the head of tourism for some country that's a middle-of-the-road soccer power, I put all my advertising dollars into getting Willets to visit in 2014.[/quote:3acvl0rt] I like this idea. Spain, Czech Republic, Denmark, Argentina and Australia are all on my travel wishlist. Start your bidding.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 01:23 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Ghana up 1-nil at half-time. Ghana winning this game will ease a little bit of the heartbreak of the USA loss.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 01:26 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Awesome long-distance goal by Muntari, by the way.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 01:29 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Sulley Muntari did put a boot in that one, eh? (The Uruguayan keeper totally got caught napping, but still.) Kind of "against the run of play," though... the parts I watched, anyway.

Willets Point Jul 02 2010 01:46 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Mr. Big, Dumb & Awesome strikes again with an equalizer for Uruguay.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 02:30 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Free futbol!

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 03:03 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

what a fuckin game!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2010 03:08 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That endgame was crazier than tossing a loaded gun into the middle of "Flavor of Love" girl-scrum.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 03:10 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

incredible

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 03:14 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

omg

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 02 2010 03:16 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

bow to your uruguayan overlords. What a match.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 02 2010 03:19 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

How bout that 4th dude from Ghana who didn't wind up or anything and just sorta kicked all playful-like? WTF

Gwreck Jul 02 2010 04:38 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Ending game with penalty kicks : Soccer :: Ending game with home run derby : Baseball. Stupid. Would have liked to see them play until someone actually wins. Would have made the penalty for the blatant handball more meaningful too.

Frayed Knot Jul 02 2010 05:05 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Gwreck":1zfez64o]... Would have made the penalty for the blatant handball more meaningful too.[/quote:1zfez64o] Was thinking about what to do with that but, short of an automatic goal, it's tough to think of one. The NHL actually has that option for when a stick is thrown at a puck bound for an open net, so maybe FIFA could implement the same thing for intentional hand-balls within that 6-yard box. As it turned out, the Uruguayan fouler winds up a national hero for turning an automatic loss to an eventual win even though he was briefly looking like the national goat and things took some real big luck to get him from the one extreme to the other.

Gwreck Jul 02 2010 09:37 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Frayed Knot":eyvpdfzg]Was thinking about what to do with that but, short of an automatic goal, it's tough to think of one. The NHL actually has that option for when a stick is thrown at a puck bound for an open net, so maybe FIFA could implement the same thing for intentional hand-balls within that 6-yard box. As it turned out, the Uruguayan fouler winds up a national hero for turning an automatic loss to an eventual win even though he was briefly looking like the national goat and things took some real big luck to get him from the one extreme to the other.[/quote:eyvpdfzg] I don't see how he would've been the goat. His handball took a certain goal (which was too high for him to block with his head) and instead changed it to penalty kick, which is only a 70% certain goal. The lesson is: cheating pays. I didn't know the NHL had that automatic-goal option as a penalty.

metirish Jul 03 2010 06:30 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Fifa are talking up the possibility that Suarez will be banned for Uruguay's last game too, he will automatically miss the semi-final so his last game would either be the final or third place game. Fifa's spokesman said " Fifa's disciplinary code gives the committee the option of a longer ban for "unsportsmanlike conduct".

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2010 06:40 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I'm probably talking out of my ass here, but given the same situation wouldn't every player in the world do the exact same thing? It'd almost be instinctive to me to try and stop the ball there: When you leave you're feet feet you're not thinking "I'm going to bat this one down with my arms," but, "I must stop this shot." Now, Suarez' celebration in the tunnel after getting sent off was reprehensible sportsmanship. If I'm the discipline czar that display goes into my decision-making.

metirish Jul 03 2010 06:53 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

No, I'm with you , it was instinctive , his coach sounds like a practical man....easier when you have won though "I think it was instinctive. The player instinctively reacted and was thrown out of the match and he can't play the next match. What else do you want? Is Suárez also to blame for Ghana missing the penalty? We try to be dignified and if we lose a match we look for the reasons for it. You shouldn't look to third parties. This is football. There are consequences to that handball and he didn't know that Ghana was going to miss that penalty."

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 07:15 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Gwreck":34sp3c0d][quote="Frayed Knot":34sp3c0d]Was thinking about what to do with that but, short of an automatic goal, it's tough to think of one. The NHL actually has that option for when a stick is thrown at a puck bound for an open net, so maybe FIFA could implement the same thing for intentional hand-balls within that 6-yard box. As it turned out, the Uruguayan fouler winds up a national hero for turning an automatic loss to an eventual win even though he was briefly looking like the national goat and things took some real big luck to get him from the one extreme to the other.[/quote:34sp3c0d] I don't see how he would've been the goat. His handball took a certain goal (which was too high for him to block with his head) and instead changed it to penalty kick, which is only a 70% certain goal. The lesson is: cheating pays. I didn't know the NHL had that automatic-goal option as a penalty.[/quote:34sp3c0d] Similar principle to goal-tending in the NBA. But I wouldn't call it "cheating" per se, more an anomaly in the rules - the unique circumstances of the situation meant that the reward/risk for the violation was skewed in favor of the perp. FK's proposal makes a lot of sense actually, which means there's absolutely zero chance FIFA will ever implement it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2010 07:46 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I'm probably talking out of my ass here, but given the same situation wouldn't every player in the world do the exact same thing? It'd almost be instinctive to me to try and stop the ball there: When you leave you're feet feet you're not thinking "I'm going to bat this one down with my arms," but, "I must stop this shot." Now, Suarez' celebration in the tunnel after getting sent off was reprehensible sportsmanship. If I'm the discipline czar that display goes into my decision-making.

The celebration came later. He was near-inconsolable before the miss, when he thought he'd somehow cost his team the match.

You could argue the celebration was almost as instinctive as the block.

Frayed Knot Jul 03 2010 08:02 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Gwreck"]I don't see how he would've been the goat. His handball took a certain goal (which was too high for him to block with his head) and instead changed it to penalty kick, which is only a 70% certain goal.

Probably right - although prior to the PK being missed he was sure acting like the guy who had just disgraced his family & country

I didn't know the NHL had that automatic-goal option as a penalty.

It's a rarely used call, mainly because it's such a rare and flagrant circumstance that it's like a 'death penalty' deterrent which keeps virtually everyone from even thinking about it.
The same thinking would discourage swatting the ball out of the goal, whether it was intentional or just a reflex.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 08:04 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

TOR! Germany take the lead in the 3rd minute. Shoddy defending by the Argies. Mueller 3' 1-0 Krauts

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 08:18 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Where is ME-SSI?

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 08:24 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Worst. Miss. Ever. t should've two! Muller is gifted possession, no one can catch him has he gets into the box. He square to Klose, whose left with a simple finish, but he lofts it over the bar.

metirish Jul 03 2010 08:27 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":hfibj42w]Where is ME-SSI?[/quote:hfibj42w] I was going to ask the same thing, if ever the Argies needed a huge game from him , one that befits his status in the game then it's now.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 08:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

It's funny the guy who writes the reviews at soccer-europe predicted a frustrating WC for Messi. There's still time for him to shine though. Muller gets the cheapest yellow card for handball. Out of the semi, if Germany get through.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2010 08:41 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Messi's apparently a little under-the-weather (in addition to being under Muller's and Schweinsteiger's bootheels).

Willets Point Jul 03 2010 08:44 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I like seeing Maradona act as the ball boy.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 08:47 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That's funny because he called Thomas Muller a ball-boy in the pre-match trash-talk.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 09:28 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Don't cry for me Argentina, The truth is I never loved you,

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2010 09:33 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Univision's "Sad Maradona" cam is pretty damn hilarious.

Willets Point Jul 03 2010 09:35 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I've never seen Angela Merkel look so relaxed.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 09:38 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Klose is now the all-time top scorer at World Cup Finals.

Willets Point Jul 03 2010 09:41 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

The more Germany kicks butt the more shocking their loss to Serbia.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 09:46 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Fuck me drunk, what a drubbing!

metirish Jul 03 2010 09:55 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Hands up who saw that coming....wow , one of the best performances I can remember at this stage in a WC. It won't happen and I am not sure if it can but the ref needs to rescind Thomas Muller's yellow card so he can play in the semi-final. STFU Lalas, you and not Maradona is the tool.

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 10:05 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":fe4n03as]Klose is now the all-time top scorer at World Cup Finals.[/quote:fe4n03as] No, he's not. The wikipedia article is bupkis -- (it lists Pavlyuchenko as the all-time top-scorer, wtf?) The proper list is: Ronaldo (BRA) 15 Gerd Müller (GER) 14 Miroslav Klose (GER) 14 Just Fontaine (FRA) 13 Pelé (BRA) 12

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2010 10:14 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Wie sagt man, "[crushing] your enemies, [seeing] them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women" auf Deutsch?

The Second Spitter Jul 03 2010 10:20 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

So much has been said about the demise of European teams and the dominance of South American teams. Unless Paraguay can pull off a minor miracle, it's going to be 3 Euros and one SA as the final four.

metirish Jul 03 2010 10:42 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Good point SS

Willets Point Jul 03 2010 10:48 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Go Paraguay! I have to root for the last underdog.

Frayed Knot Jul 04 2010 06:54 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":3uywv6zk]Tough call. I'm no expert on how goals are awarded but I believe Sneijder deserves credit even if it glance off of Felipe Melo.[/quote:3uywv6zk] And, indeed, he does wind up getting credit after a review.

The Second Spitter Jul 04 2010 07:04 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Gwreck":2cr89lj2]Ending game with penalty kicks : Soccer :: Ending game with home run derby : Baseball. Stupid. Would have liked to see them play until someone actually wins.[/quote:2cr89lj2] Old debate FIFA have conveniently swept under the carpet after they canned the "golden" and "silver" goal concepts. The most sensible solution I've heard is to reduce the amount of players after full-time by one every 15 minutes and to a minimum of 8 players. The NHL implement a similar rule a couple of seasons ago, although it wasn't used in the play-offs IIRC.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 12:15 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Holy crap, almost forgot-- game on in 15! Someone's got a meeting to cancel.

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 12:22 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Hup, Holland, Hup!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 12:25 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

They certainly should. Uruguay's down Suarez and their left back whatshisface, and have a bunch of dudes nursing (actual) injuries, too. Plus, it's not like the Dutch have a history of self-destructing at the worst possible times, or anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 12:34 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Yeow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 12:49 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Now that's marksmanship.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 12:49 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

WOW.

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 12:52 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Holy crap! Goal of the tournament.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 12:55 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That was like a sniper shot with a howitzer.

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 12:58 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Kicked in the nose. Ow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 12:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Now that's how you kick a guy in the face.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 01:11 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Forlan, almost as hot. GOOLLLLLLLL

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 01:18 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

He's like, the only guy the Dutch have to keep an eye on, no matter where he is on the field. And still... damn. Viva La Celeste.

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 01:26 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Keeper should have done better on Forlan's goal.

metirish Jul 06 2010 01:30 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":153odudn]Keeper should have done better on Forlan's goal.[/quote:153odudn] Should have , he seemed to be caught day dreaming, still , great freaking goal.

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 01:50 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Sneijder has gone MIA again. (Last time I wrote that here he scored two goals).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 01:54 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

So... the Dutch are playing for the tie, then?

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 01:57 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Shocking miss by Robben. I'm fairly sure they're not, but they lack creativity today.

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 01:58 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":ss5wpqqb]Sneijder has gone MIA again. (Last time I wrote that here he scored two goals).[/quote:ss5wpqqb] Wesley Sneijder reads CPF.....during games!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 01:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 06 2010 02:00 PM

[quote="The Second Spitter":2uhc0ng4]Sneijder has gone MIA again. (Last time I wrote that here he scored two goals).[/quote:2uhc0ng4] Ha. Had Robben played that ball back to the middle/weakside for Sneijder or Kuyt instead of shooting with the off-foot, it's 3-1.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 01:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Damn. We need more magic from Forlan

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:01 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2o1m8noz]Damn. We need more magic from Forlan[/quote:2o1m8noz] I've heard tell that he's pretty hot.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 02:03 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Oh well. It was a good run, Churaras

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:05 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Hup, Holland, Hup

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:06 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":5xthdj69]Oh well. It was a good run, Churaras[/quote:5xthdj69] No handball will save you now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 02:08 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That just makes me want to cheat more. Who are the blonde couple with the orange scarves they keep showing in the stands. The guy looks like Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson,

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 02:12 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:14 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":25dt6rja] Who are the blonde couple with the orange scarves they keep showing in the stands. The guy looks like Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson,[/quote:25dt6rja] Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima of the Netherlands.

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:16 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 02:18 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter"]

I like goooooooooool!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2010 02:20 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

GOAL!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 06 2010 02:22 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Never say 'Guay?

The Second Spitter Jul 06 2010 02:26 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

First time a European team will raise the trophy outside Europe.....it's only taken 80 years.

Willets Point Jul 06 2010 02:27 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Damn that was an awesome, tense final few minutes. Now the Netherlands can get revenge against Germany for 1974 or against Spain for the Hapsburgs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 10:24 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Now that's how you kick a guy in the face.

MFS62 Jul 07 2010 10:26 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":30yhwmzo] Now the Netherlands can get revenge against ... Spain for the Hapsburgs.[/quote:30yhwmzo] Man, THAT'S what I call holding a grudge. LOL! Later

Willets Point Jul 07 2010 11:07 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="MFS62":2f2s5o5n][quote="Willets Point":2f2s5o5n] Now the Netherlands can get revenge against ... Spain for the Hapsburgs.[/quote:2f2s5o5n] Man, THAT'S what I call holding a grudge. LOL! Later[/quote:2f2s5o5n] yeah, I couldn't think of any soccer-related grudges so I went with history.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 01:46 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Anyone watching? What a sequence in front of the German net. Still scoreless at 58 mins or so

Willets Point Jul 07 2010 01:47 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I'm tuned in when I'm not called away to do work-related stuff. It's been kind of siesta overall.

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 01:51 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":e8j43r8a]Anyone watching? What a sequence in front of the German net. Still scoreless at 58 mins or so[/quote:e8j43r8a] Just tuning in now - who's had the better of the part game?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 01:59 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

From what I've seen, Spain has controlled the ball a lot more but haven't been much more dangerous than Germany overall. edit -- as soon as I write that, GOL espana!

Willets Point Jul 07 2010 02:00 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Espana! I had a feeling something would come of that corner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 02:00 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Damn, his head is a loaded gun.

Willets Point Jul 07 2010 02:01 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

That one is for Guernica you Krauts!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 02:17 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Will Spain regret fucking up that 2-on-1 they had? Dumb play by Pedro.

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 02:19 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I feel disturbingly upset that Germany lost.

Willets Point Jul 07 2010 02:20 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

No regrets. Espana vs. Nederlands on Sunday.

metirish Jul 07 2010 02:22 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter"]I feel disturbingly upset that Germany lost.

You can still get your Hoff on

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2010 02:23 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter":1qut91as]I feel disturbingly upset that Germany lost.[/quote:1qut91as] Same here. Also a little odd that this is Spain's first final. Would be kind of rough for the Oranje to be denied one more time by championship first-timers.

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 02:32 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Can't get behind Spain irrespective of the fact our club captain plays for them -- may have something to do with fact there are so many cunts who play for Barcelona and Real Madrid.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2010 02:54 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Oh-- si, si. But then, I kinda root for Chelsea. So you'd best be served to decline my expression of solidarity.

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 05:24 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1sj2nla7] But then, I kinda root for Chelsea.[/quote:1sj2nla7] Really? I was sure you were part of the Arsemets cabal.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2010 06:19 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="The Second Spitter"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] But then, I kinda root for Chelsea.

Really? I was sure you were part of the Arsemets cabal.

Having lived over there for a few years, a long stone's throw from Stamford Bridge (and, by her report, running into Roberto Di Matteo "a couple of times") Wifey is Blue, through and through. With no real allegiance, I went along with when we started dating... just as Abramovich bought the team. So, yeah, I'm one of those.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2010 06:21 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Oh, and on a totally unrelated note-- Arjen Robben rolled in a ball: the Photoshops.

Willets Point Jul 10 2010 12:54 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Right now Uruguay and Germany are battling so that at the end of the game one team can proudly proclaim "We're number three!" Germany's up 1-0 already. Anyone watching this?

Willets Point Jul 10 2010 01:15 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

If a third place game is tied after regulation do they go to extra time and pk's or do the two teams just tie for third place?

Willets Point Jul 10 2010 01:40 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I don't think the keeper even saw that goal by Diego Forlan.

Ashie62 Jul 10 2010 01:41 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

[quote="Willets Point":3u3u5q0u]If a third place game is tied after regulation do they go to extra time and pk's or do the two teams just tie for third place?[/quote:3u3u5q0u] They exchange Jerseys, kiss and call it a draw.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 10 2010 01:43 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Yes, Ash, but how do you feel about soccer? Christ, the Bohunk's been deadly this WC, hasn't he?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 10 2010 01:49 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

Boom. Bohunk gets equalized. Fun game for third here.

metirish Jul 10 2010 04:26 PM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

It was a fun game , right till the last kick too, Forlan for me is the player of the WC. He played with abandon , played smart and was a joy to watch, school boys stuff as they say.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 11 2010 06:11 AM Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup Knock-Out Rounds

I thought this game was this morning, like a doubleheader. Oh well, farewell Uruguay, see you in 2014.