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IGT - Mets @ Nats - July 1st

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 05:19 PM

I can't find an IGT anywhere?
If there is one I am sorry.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 05:22 PM
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I can't be here on a regular basis for a lil while, and I have no line ups ready.

Mets score first as they bring one around w/small ball.

Felice single, Tejada sac bunt, Dave did his thing (K), Davis singles in Polanco head.

Gwreck
Jul 01 2010 05:43 PM
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Was Fman's to start but he is MIA at first pitch.

Feliciano CF
Tejada SS
Wright 3B
Davis 1B
Francoeur RF
Carter LF
Blanco C
Cora 2B
Santana P

Gwreck
Jul 01 2010 05:49 PM
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Morgan CF
Guzman 2B
Zimmerman 3B
Dunn 1B
Willingham LF
Morse RF
Desmond SS
Nieves C
Hernandez P

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 05:51 PM
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ty G.
Hope all is well with Fman and I hope he don't mind me pinch hittin for him.
But I do prefer we have IGTs during the game.

I hate to say great news, but to me it is.
Utley out for 8 weeks with a suckin thumb.

Gwreck
Jul 01 2010 05:55 PM
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I think Fman might be AT the game tonight. So no worries about the mojo.

Santana looking decidedly sharper tonight with an easy first two innings.

themetfairy
Jul 01 2010 05:56 PM
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Praise Jesus - nice catch to end the 3rd.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:11 PM
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What happened?
When I left this was the no-hitter I predicted yesterday and the day before.

Ohhhhhhh, they got a hit.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:18 PM
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Jesus is hotter than the 4th of Juuuuly.



Oh my, I feel faint.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 06:20 PM
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Jeez... Feliciano's hitting like he's got a returning perennial All-Star breathing down his neck.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:24 PM
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Yikes, Carter plays the karoom of the wall perfectly lucky and then he tries to throw the ball to me here in NJ.

They are gonna review this, but that was no homer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 06:26 PM
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Between that and the lulu he threw in an "attempt" to get Cantu at the plate last night... he makes Damon look like Clemente.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:28 PM
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It hit of the pad on the wall top and man, was Carter lucky that shot off the wall into his glove.
Then he makes a horrible 100 hop and roll throw to up the left field line.
Should hit that cut-off or even thrown it behind the runner, tho he was gonna settle for a double.

Hope this don't hurt us.

Get out of it Santana.

BIG K!

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:30 PM
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Nice Johan. Godd job mah man.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:34 PM
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Utley, Uggla, now Guzman....
is it possible I just hat all 2nd basemen?
(not on the Mets, of course. I would love Tejada,
but he's only 11 and I'd end up in jail.)

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:38 PM
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July 1st:
The coffee here is not as good as the Ricans.
As a result I'm somewhat under control.

TheOldMole
Jul 01 2010 06:40 PM
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Be nice to give Johan a run or two.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 06:49 PM
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Willingham was soooooo looking changeup on that.

Johan's smarter.

Two on, one out? Zero problem.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 06:51 PM
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Santana gettin outta jams but that was a close one.



How long can he do this Spock?
For....
how....


long?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 06:56 PM
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Hopefully, three more.

I mean, 75 pitches through 6?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:00 PM
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Desmond has another in the Nationals' place;
Nieves is a candidate to bunt.
Desmond is advancing down to second base;
And in to hit, not Livan, but some other... guy.

Ashie62
Jul 01 2010 07:01 PM
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Nice to be back. Quite an interesting OF for the Mets. Need runs!

Ashie62
Jul 01 2010 07:03 PM
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Omir Santos would have blocked that.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 07:04 PM
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Desmond has another in the Nationals' place;
Nieves is a candidate to bunt.
Desmond is advancing down to second base;
And in to hit, not Livan, but some other... guy.



lol, thats classic.
And I knew what song it was spoofin right off the bat.

Santanas FIRST wild pitch of the season puts a Nat on third with 2 out.
Come on Johan.
Do it again.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:06 PM
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Dammit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:24 PM
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Forgot what a Fischer-Spassky-like joy it was to watch a Riggleman-Manuel matchup.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 07:28 PM
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Kirk: "Santana will not pitch the 8th, Spock.
It's a shame those humans in blue did not give him more support."


Spock: "He pitched well Captain. But according to your earth rules
in this competitive game you call baseball, not well enough for a win."


Kirk: "But he DID pitch well enough, Spock. Even though he
was in constant trouble, he did pitch a great game.
You have much to learn about baseball my friend."


Spock: *Shrugs Shoulders

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:32 PM
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Oh, Spock. Logic has no place in a Willie Harris-inhabited atmosphere.

Desmond steps up with the score tied at 1-all
Pedro looks at runners, first and third
Desmond settles in and looks to drive the ball
And instead of laying wood, he lays a turd

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:44 PM
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Of course it's Harris.

AND Morgan.

FUCK.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 07:47 PM
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I do hat Guzman.
I do, I do.

The Second Spitter
Jul 01 2010 07:47 PM
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I'd really love a double play.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:48 PM
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Igarashi coming on cold to face Zimmerman with nowhere to put him.

This don't bode well.

Fman99
Jul 01 2010 07:50 PM
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How do the Mets only have one run against these crumb-bums?

STOP LETTING PEDRO PITCH TO FUCKING RIGHTIES PLEASE. EVERY OTHER RELIEVER OUT THERE IS A RIGHTY FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

At least we have three catchers

The Second Spitter
Jul 01 2010 07:50 PM
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I know --if it's any consolation Ryota whiffed the 3 hitters he faced yesterday.

The Second Spitter
Jul 01 2010 07:51 PM
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Jesus playing 2nd SS or is it SS the 2nd?

Rockin' Doc
Jul 01 2010 07:52 PM
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Iggy best bring his nastiest stuff right here.

The Second Spitter
Jul 01 2010 07:52 PM
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Fuck it.

Fman99
Jul 01 2010 07:53 PM
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That blows.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 07:53 PM
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gah

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 01 2010 07:53 PM
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Tipping his pitches? Santana might as well say, "Belt-high changeup coming your way" and get it over with since they're not going to score more than a damn run for him anyway.

The Second Spitter
Jul 01 2010 07:54 PM
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Sucky losses suck.

themetfairy
Jul 01 2010 07:54 PM
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Suckitudinal....

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 01 2010 07:54 PM
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Horrible.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 01 2010 07:55 PM
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Well, that was pretty nasty, but it wasn't exactly what I had in mind. Fall behind with curves out of the zone and then you're forced to throw him a fastball and Zimmerman had to be salivating, waiting for it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2010 07:56 PM
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Awesome.

smg58
Jul 01 2010 08:07 PM
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It all starts with failing to throw strikes to a guys with a sub-.600 career OPS against lefties (and a .357 OPS so far this year). I can forgive not making the play on the Morgan bunt, and I can shrug my shoulders at Manuel leaving him in to face Guzman even though he's much better righthanded. But Harris was about as likely to get a hit in that spot as a pitcher would have been, and walking him is just not excusable.

Ashie62
Jul 01 2010 08:09 PM
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Willie Harris is one pesky gnat

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 01 2010 08:31 PM
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They really been exhibiting many of the rotten qualities they showed back in April and May this past week or so: Not enough power, pitchers collapsing with two out and nobody on, itchy bullpen trigger, overworked relievers losing it, hopelessness in tie games on the road. Maybe we'll start bunting more now.

bmfc1
Jul 01 2010 09:06 PM
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Back from a horrible evening at Nationals Park. Their fans suck so much that they now have a male cheerleader on each side. The dope on our side wore a colored wig, blew a whistle and danced to every at bat song. I hated him almost as much as I hate their mascot, the effeminate chicken. (The only good thing is that if you give the Gifford's ice cream guy a buck, he'll give you an extra scoop--it's supposed to be $3.)

Your team sucks: Igarashi is horrible and has no business being on the team. Cora is a great bench coach and has no business being on the team. (Tatis didn't play tonight, but he has no business being on the team either.)

3 hits over the last 7 innings. I'm [u:2wrn17ab]so [/u:2wrn17ab]sorry that they were tired after their long flight but there was a game on the schedule and it counted. E.g., Francoeur looked like he'd never seen a major league pitcher before. I was tired today, too, but I put in a full day of work. The Mets didn't.

And I can't get over walking a .155 hitter, even if it's Willie Harris.

Your manager is an idiot: Who makes a defensive change in the 6th inning? Jerry does. If he has so little confidence in Carter's defensive abilities, then he shouldn't start a game in the OF. Making this move, when combined with Reyes' ability, limited possible moves later in the game.

If Pagan was available to play half the game, he was available to start. Plus, I'd like to have seen Carter against Capps in the 9th.

Why PH for Blanco with 2 outs and nobody on? Blanco had 2 hits. Unless Bay hit one out, Jerry was counting on Cora, who is no good, to drive in the go-ahead run. The move to make was let Blanco hit and PH Bay for Cora. Tatis could have played 2d if Reyes wasn't available.

Zvon
Jul 01 2010 09:13 PM
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3dcom6ul] Maybe we'll start bunting more now.[/quote:3dcom6ul]

I don't think that's possible...
unless we start off inning with bunts.
We could do that.

Jerry, stop over managing.
Sometimes, you gotta let the game come to you.

If you wanna use K-Rod just to give him some work, use him in a blow out loss like Mondays.
We lost that 10-3.
Not a 6-4 game like Tuesday. That, IIRC, was the score when he came in.
Bad time to use him. Cuz this team is scrappy and they can come back from a 2 run deficit more than not.
And if they do tie or take a lead, K-Rods not there to do his job.

He could have gotten some work Mon., the save last night, and been available tonight.

I know it sounds like this is easy to say in retrospect, but as last few games were unfolding, this is what I was thinking.

I trust Jerry but that don't mean I won't jump all over his shit.
Course I will.
Bobby Vs just hangin in the wings waiting for an opening.
I bet he can overmanage your overmanaging Jerry.
I like you guy.
I'll miss ya.

You don't always have to make things happen.
Sometimes, let the game come to you.

bmfc1
Jul 01 2010 09:31 PM
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In the post-game press conference, Jerry was asked why Rodriguez wasn't used in the 9th. He said "that's not what a closer does." Of course, what Jerry doesn't comprehend is that when you're on the road, there is no save situation and the bottom of the 9th is sudden death. While Jerry was searching for a role for his closer, his 4th best (at most) reliever was brought into the game.

http://www.wfan.com/pages/223571.php

The Diamondbacks have a new GM and manager tonight. Lucky bastards.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 01 2010 09:51 PM
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Actually there is a save to be had on the road, if they preserve the tie and score. There's no save for the home team in extras.

Not to say I agree with his choices, but I think the problem is more rooted in his yanking Santana when he did than the decisions he made once that was done: It was bound to get to that point sooner or later.

bmfc1
Jul 02 2010 04:50 AM
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You're right JCL, but I don't like limiting your closer, your best reliever, for something that might not occur.

G-Fafif
Jul 02 2010 05:46 AM
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Jerry, after the last two losses, has given convoluted explanations that boil down to "I will not use my closer in a tie game on the road because I will not use my closer in a tie game on the road." Even he doesn't sound like he believes it's brilliant managing to cut out that option from the start.

David Lennon of Snoozeday suggests the Jerry Watch will be firing up again. One is tempted to say "tough town," but I haven't really had the sense it's been Jerry's managerial genius that's gotten us to within two games of first place...or that it will keep us in that range or better.

Or it might. Honestly I don't know. Kinda tough to tell the dude who's got a team playing above general expectations to take a hike.

Edgy DC
Jul 02 2010 06:37 AM
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It may well be that Jerry's managing genius has helped the team win the games they win. It's certainly helped them lose the games they lose as well.

Clearly road trips endanger the guy, and homestands protect him, somehow.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 02 2010 06:58 AM
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This game marked the 100th time that the Mets played the Washington Nationals. (They're 57 and 43 against Washington.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 02 2010 07:30 AM
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[quote="G-Fafif"]Jerry, after the last two losses, has given convoluted explanations that boil down to "I will not use my closer in a tie game on the road because I will not use my closer in a tie game on the road." Even he doesn't sound like he believes it's brilliant managing to cut out that option from the start.

David Lennon of Snoozeday suggests the Jerry Watch will be firing up again. One is tempted to say "tough town," but I haven't really had the sense it's been Jerry's managerial genius that's gotten us to within two games of first place...or that it will keep us in that range or better.

Or it might. Honestly I don't know. Kinda tough to tell the dude who's got a team playing above general expectations to take a hike.



Reading his quotes today was like losing all over again.

"All the walk-off losses on the road, that's indicative of the eighth-inning guy. That's when he pitches. That's the way it works. That's baseball."

Edgy DC
Jul 02 2010 07:39 AM
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Letting quotes like that escape into print... well, somebody needs a toungelashing from Obama.

MFS62
Jul 02 2010 08:40 AM
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I have a better question that someone should have asked Jerry.
"With Pagan and Reyes out, why wasn't Bay in the starting lineup?"

Later