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IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

bmfc1 Jul 07 2010 12:34 PM

METS: Reyes-SS Pagan-CF Wright-3B Davis-1B Bay-LF Thole-C Feliciano-RF Cora-2B Niese-LHP =#FF0000]Reds: Phillips 4 Cabrera 6 Votto 3 Rolen 5 Gomes 7 Heisey 9 Stubbs 8 Miller 2 Arroyo RHP

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 12:55 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

certainly seems that Jerry's preparing Frenchy for a platoon lately.

TransMonk Jul 07 2010 12:59 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 01:00 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="TransMonk":kicqiqsh]Not that there's anything wrong with that.[/quote:kicqiqsh] Agreed, but I was worried Manuel didn't realize how bad Frenchy is. I'm sure I'll still get annoyed that he plays too much and Pagan not enough, but we'll see.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2010 01:01 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.

bmfc1 Jul 07 2010 01:06 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Ask Ralph Kiner if they should get a day-off. They can sleep late tomorrow.

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 01:10 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Edgy DC":2gvd0pid]He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:2gvd0pid] At least he's not catching Barajas again. Wright doesn't do days off, doesn't seem like Bay does either. Davis is from Arizona. he laughs in the face of blazing heat.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2010 01:13 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Two things I wonder about Josh Thole: 1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher? 2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job?

metirish Jul 07 2010 01:15 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Edgy DC":mecdr9ah]He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:mecdr9ah] Hey Keith, how hot was it again in St. Louis , down on the field with the artificial turf?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2010 01:16 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":ah72a4zf]Two things I wonder about Josh Thole: 1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher? 2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job?[/quote:ah72a4zf] Sure seems like one of the two, doesn't it? (I would modify "2" to read "largest chunk of a timeshare down the stretch.")

metirish Jul 07 2010 01:19 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I'd say one was more likely than two , he hasn't really played enough to claim a starting job has he?, of course that might need to change to get #1 going.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 01:20 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Two things I wonder about Josh Thole: 1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher? 2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job? Nice hitter innit he? I mean, what little we've seen. I think the Mets are way too in love with the veteran-ness and defensive reputation of the Barajas/Blanco platoon to break it up so I think Thole's best shot this year is to force the issue of being a LH bat, like he's been doing, but he's still up against it. I'd be surprised if he's still in the org in three weeks. I dunno if you saw it but Jerry criticized Jauss for allowing Thole to PH vs. a lefty the other night after Jerry's ejection, that may give you an idea of where the org is on him.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2010 01:23 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I criticized Jauss also, for what it's worth.

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 01:25 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":65fv0jii] I dunno if you saw it but Jerry criticized Jauss for allowing Thole to PH vs. a lefty the other night after Jerry's ejection, that may give you an idea of where the org is on him.[/quote:65fv0jii] seriously? That confuses me actually. I was at the game and was surprised to see Thole against the lefty (because i assumed Jerry was still calling the shots anyway). I did realize that Tatis is on the DL and they don't have a lot of righty's on the bench. (Frenchy to assume this role I assume) but could've used Blanco in that situation..unless Jerry was serious about the whole "Blanco is the backup CI" thing..which actually casts a rather pale light on Carter.

metirish Jul 07 2010 01:26 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

What surprised me in reading that was that Manuel even though he was kicked out was still not manageing the game, I assumed that was what happened. Booby V used to right?

bmfc1 Jul 07 2010 01:27 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 01:29 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="bmfc1":2rkbbfeu]Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?[/quote:2rkbbfeu] He could develop some maybe. If he's going to put up a higher average than most catchers, maybe you live with a couple less dingers, but while Thole does look like he might be a quality hitter, he also doesn't look like anything irreplaceable.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2010 01:32 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Power is like any other skill. A defecit in one department can be cancelled by a surfeit in another. And just playing catcher goes a long ways toward that cancellation.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2010 01:40 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Paul LoDuca wasn't much of a power hitter, and the Mets won a division with him. Neither was Jerry Grote, but that was a whole different era.

Gwreck Jul 07 2010 01:48 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Edgy DC":3l77h336]He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:3l77h336] The off-day tomorrow isn't enough?

Edgy DC Jul 07 2010 01:51 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I mean more generally, but no.

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2010 02:19 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

ESPN game tonight for the out-of-towners with the added bonus of Bobby V at the mike ... along with Chris Berman and Joe Morgan - you can't have everything you know

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2010 02:33 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="bmfc1":1z5ennxu]Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?[/quote:1z5ennxu] The problem with Thole is that his offensive worth is pretty much tied up in BA as he has little power and doesn't walk a ton. And the problem with that is BA tends to fluctuate more than most stats and Mets fans shouldn't count on him being the .300+ hit machine they saw last year in AAA and briefly w/the big club. That doesn't mean he's the .200 hitter he started out this year as either but the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Combine all that with the fact that he's probably never going to make a team on defensive rep alone and I think he may just be a back-up/fill-in/platoon guy much of his career.

Zvon Jul 07 2010 02:56 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="metirish"][quote="Edgy DC"]He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.

Hey Keith, how hot was it again in St. Louis , down on the field with the artificial turf?


"One hundred and forty eight degrees Metirish. One-four-eight."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2010 03:52 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Is there any chance we skip the anthem tonight, and just play this on the Citifield video screen? (H/T, Ted Berg.)

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:06 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

BOBBY V FOR PRESIDENT, MAAAAAN!

Ashie62 Jul 07 2010 05:10 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

LETS!

Ashie62 Jul 07 2010 05:11 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Zvon":c2c8db9x]BOBBY V FOR PRESIDENT, MAAAAAN![/quote:c2c8db9x] Bobby Vinton?

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:15 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

GO[/bigpurple]

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:19 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Ashie62 Jul 07 2010 05:20 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

AN-HELL!

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 05:20 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 05:21 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Fuck me -- the Genius is in the com booth!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:26 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

How do u overun a bad hop? Bobby sets Joe straight! And then they kiss each others ass a lil bit!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:27 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

CORA!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:30 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I don't have any ribs tonight but I have some leftover baked ziti that tastes like a real good pair of old socks. WHO WANTS!?

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:35 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Has Arroyo always had that high leg kick?

The Second Spitter Jul 07 2010 05:38 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Dunno, but it looks kinda queer...

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:40 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

It do. Like "toe out, wooooooo" IKE with the leather!!!!!! Don't be hittin it foul when Ikes on the prowl!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:42 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Shit. That was fair and as far away from Ike as one could get.How dare they! 1-1

themetfairy Jul 07 2010 05:42 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Damn - tie game :(

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:49 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Arroyo:Leg up, toe out, wooooo! Niese says kick this guitar man!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 05:51 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I DO NOT want to see my pitcher sliding head first into 3rd FOR ANY REASON! Whew. K, I'll take it down a notch.

Ashie62 Jul 07 2010 05:52 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Jerry Speaks..sort of..

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:01 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Morgan takes the credit for Davids resurgence. Is that what he was doin there? paaaaaaaaaalease

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:02 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Bring a few mitts when Ike hits!

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2010 06:06 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Zvon":2zdigzem]Has Arroyo always had that high leg kick?[/quote:2zdigzem] Yes

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:09 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[quote="Frayed Knot":2m1rsoqm][quote="Zvon":2m1rsoqm]Has Arroyo always had that high leg kick?[/quote:2m1rsoqm] Yes[/quote:2m1rsoqm] Awwww. Woooooo!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:23 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I'm actually enjoying Morgan with Bobby V there. A lil bit. This frightens me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 06:25 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I hate Arroyo, but I kinda like his windup.

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:31 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Thole gets a miniscule and sadly unmeasurable shot of brew for that mound trip. That was beyond baseball.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 06:38 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Helluva catch by Heisey there. Geez

themetfairy Jul 07 2010 06:40 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Oh fuck!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:50 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I wasn't at the TV but I don't think I like what happened this last half.

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:52 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

Thole gets it started! Bobby with the Pauly haircut! Joe with sideburns that could put an eye out!

Zvon Jul 07 2010 06:56 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

UGH! DP and an AMAZIN play by Phillips and its on to the 8th, 1-3.

Zvon Jul 07 2010 07:24 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I think it's about time another team besides the Mets suffer a traumatically horrible 9th inning. LETS

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 07:26 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[bigpurple:pywm7nk4]Tie the game[/bigpurple:pywm7nk4]

Zvon Jul 07 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

AT LEAST![/bigpurple]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 07:38 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

[bigpurple:tjjt5owk]OR NOT THANK YOU JASON BAY DRIVE SAFELY[/bigpurple:tjjt5owk]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2010 10:16 PM Re: IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

I could use some sweet-swingin' Beltran right about now.