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IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Ashie62 Jul 08 2010 09:11 AM I.G.T. 7/9 Snotlanta @ Mets Hanson v. Dickey

The midseason showdown is upon us. LETS!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 08 2010 11:30 AM Re: I.G.T. 7/9 Snotlanta @ Mets Hanson v. Dickey Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2010 11:38 AM

Division-race implications aside, I'm not terribly eager to witness a Hanson-Dickey episode. When I was younger, and more open to strange, new things... maybe. Or maybe if both were on our team, it would be easier and less awkward to derive enjoyment from such a setup. But now, now I could kind of do without watching a somebody else's Hanson-our Dickey kinda thing. That could be sort of painful... damaging, even. Oh, and

TransMonk Jul 08 2010 11:35 AM Re: I.G.T. 7/9 Snotlanta @ Mets Hanson v. Dickey

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 12:54 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2010 03:09 PM

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metirish Jul 09 2010 01:00 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Fuck you Braves and the horse you rode in on.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 01:01 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Game thread mojo alert: [url]http://cranepoolforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14276

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 01:02 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Crap.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 01:13 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

This thread would be a crime if only because it started on your own losing streak. We need a merge!

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 01:16 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Merge away and we'll pretend that this thread didn't happen.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 01:31 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Attachment surger successful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 01:33 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Whew, we saved the season. Now we need to collaborate on a KTE.

metirish Jul 09 2010 01:44 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

WOW, Fman bails on a KTE that has some Cox in it...

G-Fafif Jul 09 2010 01:59 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2010 02:12 PM

Pagan CF Reyes SS Wright 3B Davis 1B Bay LF Thole C Francoeur RF Tejada 2B Dickey P Yup, Reyes listed batting second.

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2010 02:03 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I wonder if that's because it gives him the option to bunt as often as possible instead of either swinging lefty or looking bad righty-on-righty

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 02:07 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="G-Fafif":4sh6helh]Pagan CF Reyes SS Wright 3BG Davis 1B Bay LF Thole C Francoeur RF Tejada 2B Dickey P Yup, Reyes listed batting second.[/quote:4sh6helh] Why not? Pagan's batting and on-basing higher than Reyes. What's 3BG? A typo? Or something I'm not gettting? I hope it's something good.

G-Fafif Jul 09 2010 02:13 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":38ub1foh][quote="G-Fafif":38ub1foh]Pagan CF Reyes SS Wright 3BG Davis 1B Bay LF Thole C Francoeur RF Tejada 2B Dickey P Yup, Reyes listed batting second.[/quote:38ub1foh] Why not? Pagan's batting and on-basing higher than Reyes. What's 3BG? A typo? Or something I'm not gettting? I hope it's something good.[/quote:38ub1foh] Now you've ruined the surprise and I have to remove the "G".

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 02:14 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

What's the surprise. My surprise party for my birthday today?

TransMonk Jul 09 2010 02:17 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Reyes batting righty vs. a righty is a waste of a lineup spot. Better it be the second spot than the leadoff spot.

Willets Point Jul 09 2010 02:27 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Jose Reyes last started a game in the second position in the batting order on June 22, 2005 at Philadelphia. (via Twitter)

Zvon Jul 09 2010 02:39 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="TransMonk":1x3aqtjt]Reyes batting righty vs. a righty is a waste of a lineup spot. Better it be the second spot than the leadoff spot.[/quote:1x3aqtjt] This is why I come here. For the people who's brains still work and can tell me the whys and the wherefores. Am I over reacting when I say this is the most important game of the year? And if not so, why so and wherefore.....so?

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 02:52 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I would love to see Reyes have a great game and stick in that two-hole the rest of the year, I tell you what.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 03:03 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Zvon":2kdz1mha]This is why I come here. For the people who's brains still work and can tell me the whys and the wherefores. Am I over reacting when I say this is the most important game of the year? And if not so, why so and wherefore.....so?[/quote:2kdz1mha] Because the other guys are in first, and the next game is always the most important game of the year so far. And... because the other guys are in first, and the next game is always the most important game of the year so far. (Same thing.)

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 03:36 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Chipper scratched. Damn.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 04:05 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="bmfc1":2w2zp9ju]Chipper scratched. Damn.[/quote:2w2zp9ju] Would it be proper to applaud here?

TransMonk Jul 09 2010 04:08 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

As long as you are not standing.

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 05:12 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Out of NY Mets fans: if you have MLB Network, you get the SNY feed of this game.

Ceetar Jul 09 2010 05:14 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="bmfc1":2jwwculg]Out of NY Mets fans: if you have MLB Network, you get the SNY feed of this game.[/quote:2jwwculg] all three games national, btw.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 05:16 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 05:59 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I think I ? Thole. Lemme check. yep.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 06:08 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Zvon":3uatekl3]shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.[/quote:3uatekl3] Shame on Jerry.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:11 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC":1gn6tuft][quote="Zvon":1gn6tuft]shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.[/quote:1gn6tuft] Shame on Jerry.[/quote:1gn6tuft] It did occur to me that batting him second was the reason he made that error in the first. AWWWW, Ike, whatchyu swingin at man?

DocTee Jul 09 2010 06:11 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Out of NY Mets fans: if you have MLB Network, you get the SNY feed of this game. Awesome! Did not know that-- thanks much for the info!

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 06:13 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC":2p0v0u26][quote="Zvon":2p0v0u26]shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.[/quote:2p0v0u26] Shame on Jerry.[/quote:2p0v0u26] Dumbest play I saw this season -- even though Wright's sac fly plated Dickey. Reyes has too much speed to worry about a DP. And if his hitting is so comprised because of his injury, so as to justify the sac bunt, then Reyes shouldn't be playing ... or at least shouldn't be batting second. What's the point of playing Reyes if injuries have, for now, reduced him to Miguel Cairo?

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:17 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I have to agree. Reyes should be up on the shelf. (ooo, but he wants to play, waaaaa. Yea, and I wanna get laid tonight. What are we gonna do?) I think Keith just hit on what this team REALLY needs! A reliefer!

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 06:21 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Has he been crying? I disagree. I don't think he should be on a shelf. I just think he shouldn't be bunting. At all. Now, Jerry's playing for the 2-1 game on defense.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 06:31 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

How about Francoeur coming up to "I just wanna use your love tonight" song?

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:33 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC":gc0mskch]Has he been crying? I disagree. I don't think he should be on a shelf. I just think he shouldn't be bunting. At all. Now, Jerry's playing for the 2-1 game on defense.[/quote:gc0mskch] Only crying to Jerry that he wants to play this series, and I guess I really shouldn't hold that against him. Wait...I don't. What Ronnie said:Sometimes you have to manage a player instead of letting him manage you. He is our switch hitting speedster lead off hitter. If he's too injured to do two of those things, I don't think he should play. He is a WAY to important cog in our engine. If he ends up injured for any long length of time, we are in serious trouble. I really wish he wasn't goin to the AS game and could rest that quad for three days. Just my opinion tho bro. I respect yours. I hear ya. The bunting. Gah.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 06:37 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Who reported his crying? Can the Braves, by the way, be allowed to win in these uniforms? Glaus up with two on and two out is not goodness.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:39 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC":3d21wosm]Who reported his crying? [/quote:3d21wosm] I believe I did, right up there ^.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:44 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Dicky with his 2nd hit. And you see that form? Woohooo. LETS

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:46 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Jose can't bunt here, right?

Zvon Jul 09 2010 06:48 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Shelf? What shelf?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 07:07 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

This bunting... will give me... a stroke tonight.

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 07:07 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Every time I pay attention, they're bunting. Need to stop paying attention ...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 07:21 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Fucking Milky Cabrera

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 07:23 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Braves gettin' homer happy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 07:24 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Gaaaaaaaaawdammit.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 07:27 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Turning point is the bunt sign. Too painful.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 07:27 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Kong76"]Braves gettin' homer happy

"There's no homer happiness in Citi Field!"

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 07:30 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":3rh106ux][quote="Edgy DC":3rh106ux][quote="Zvon":3rh106ux]shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.[/quote:3rh106ux] Shame on Jerry.[/quote:3rh106ux] Dumbest play I saw this season -- even though Wright's sac fly plated Dickey. Reyes has too much speed to worry about a DP. And if his hitting is so comprised because of his injury, so as to justify the sac bunt, then Reyes shouldn't be playing ... or at least shouldn't be batting second. What's the point of playing Reyes if injuries have, for now, reduced him to Miguel Cairo?[/quote:3rh106ux] This is why you don't play for one run when your middle of the lineup is due up with two men already on base and six innings to play. Because while you're scoring one run, they're scoring four. When the fuck does he play for the big inning? When Thole and Tejada are due up?

Zvon Jul 09 2010 07:31 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I blame all you guys for this recent turn of events. I see a LETS hanging alone last page with no followup. This here is just bad karma.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 07:40 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 07:45 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Davis with back to back green lookin' blunders in the field ...

Zvon Jul 09 2010 07:45 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC"]

Works for me.

Davis having an awkward inning in the field.
Mark the date.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 07:46 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 07:48 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

This defecit isn't on Dickey. Manuel puts these guys in impossible situations.

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 07:49 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Don't get the pic, Edge ... and I'm in no hurry for Beltran.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":16v24yfj][quote="batmagadanleadoff":16v24yfj][quote="Edgy DC":16v24yfj][quote="Zvon":16v24yfj]shame on you Jose. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.[/quote:16v24yfj] Shame on Jerry.[/quote:16v24yfj] Dumbest play I saw this season -- even though Wright's sac fly plated Dickey. Reyes has too much speed to worry about a DP. And if his hitting is so comprised because of his injury, so as to justify the sac bunt, then Reyes shouldn't be playing ... or at least shouldn't be batting second. What's the point of playing Reyes if injuries have, for now, reduced him to Miguel Cairo?[/quote:16v24yfj] This is why you don't play for one run when your middle of the lineup is due up with two men already on base and six innings to play. Because while you're scoring one run, they're scoring four. When the fuck does he play for the big inning? When Thole and Tejada are due up?[/quote:16v24yfj] I can't get this play out of my head. It's like having Billie Don't be a Hero stuck in my brain on an endless loop. Jerry has Reyes sac bunt with Wright, the hottest hitter in all of baseball, Ike Davis, who can't go a week and a half without hitting a 450 foot homer and Jason Bay, the All Star $60M dollar investment all due up next. What's the point of having that middle?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 07:53 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Plenty of time to bemon the fukups afterward. Right now we need Jason Bay to do something very positive.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 07:55 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2010 07:56 PM

I'm with you, BML. I'm going to see if a scotch or two can't help with that. (Also, with wiping away them ugly Bay ABs from my memory.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 07:55 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Bay sucks, have you noticed?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 07:56 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":10ko44dh]Plenty of time to bemon the fukups afterward. Right now we need Jason Bay to do something very positive.[/quote:10ko44dh] Next inning it'll be the ass bottom of the order against Wagner. I guess that's when Manuel decides to ditch the sac bunt.

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 07:56 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

That Jason Bay!

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:01 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

When the first inning's for bunting, The last inning's for hunting.

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 08:03 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Oh, and I forgot to say before ... funk Melky!

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:07 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":1fkmr6h0]When the first inning's for bunting, The last inning's for hunting.[/quote:1fkmr6h0] Can I tweak this? If... In the first frame you're bunting, In the last you'll be hunting.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Kong76":2ed3xliw]Don't get the pic, Edge ... and I'm in no hurry for Beltran.[/quote:2ed3xliw] Under pressure, I'm completing the "Let's Go, Mets" montage.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:10 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2010 11:03 PM

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":lzumr8kz][quote="batmagadanleadoff":lzumr8kz]When the first inning's for bunting, The last inning's for hunting.[/quote:lzumr8kz] Can I tweak this? If... In the first frame you're bunting, In the last you'll be hunting.[/quote:lzumr8kz] If in the first frame you are bunting, In the last one you'll be hunting. So dunt bunt.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

All right, no whining for the next half-inning while we all concentrate on humiliating Billy Wagner.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 08:13 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

All right, no whining for the next half-inning while we all concentrate on humiliating Billy Wagner. I can do this. My poem sucked anyhow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2010 08:14 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

It really did. It was Wagneresque.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 08:16 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Cora? REALLY?

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2010 08:16 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":15e752ie]Cora? REALLY?[/quote:15e752ie] He was already in the game after they PH'd for Tejada

bmfc1 Jul 09 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

That's 7 losses out of 11. Right now, too many holes in the lineup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

When your early O mindset is so wishy-washy Your endgame sucks wiener like a drunk Kobayashi

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 08:20 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

When Reyes is bunting No out, two on base Get set for job hunting Get set for fourth place

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 08:20 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Frayed Knot":2x3wnitw][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2x3wnitw]Cora? REALLY?[/quote:2x3wnitw] He was already in the game after they PH'd for Tejada[/quote:2x3wnitw] I blame the bad karma. And the Tullamore Dew.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:21 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Leiter's poems come with pictures.

themetfairy Jul 09 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]

ROFL!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2010 08:29 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

When you pinch hit unwisely and bunt all you want-ee You leave yourself prone to get fucked by Infante

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2010 08:34 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

The bunt I didn't like was the Thole one - although both Keith & Ronnie were OK with it. Bunting a compromised Reyes to set up Wright & Davis makes more sense than bunting into Francoeur & Tejada. And in case no one has noticed, Tejada is like 1 for his last 20-something, is striking out in about 1/3 of his ABs, and is barely getting the ball out of the infield when he does make contact.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2010 08:37 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Cox is retiring, and Wagner, and Larry They're retiring our hitters so eas'ly, it's scary Why are folks so convinced Reyes couldn't hit? He doubled his next time up.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:39 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2010 09:58 PM

Jerry Manuel was content with one score, Never imaginin' the Braves would score four.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 08:43 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Edgy DC"]Cox is retiring, and Wagner, and Larry They're retiring our hitters so eas'ly, it's scary Why are folks so convinced Reyes couldn't hit? He doubled his next time up.

1. Good on the rhymer.

2. We don't know. If Reyes wasn't comprised (but then why did he bat righty against the righty? Righty?) the sac bunt is unjustifiable. If he was comprised, then by how much? Because there's a threshold of injury where he shouldn't be playing. Did Reyes' nagging injury induce his 1st inning error?

Zvon Jul 09 2010 08:59 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":371ul4wd] Did Reyes' nagging injury induce his 1st inning error?[/quote:371ul4wd] I really don't think so. I hope not. It was an easy ground ball that did not take too much effort to handle. He took his eye off it. It was crucial too, cuz that would have ended the 1st at 0-0.

Kong76 Jul 09 2010 08:59 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

LWFS, that would make a great avatar!

Zvon Jul 09 2010 09:05 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I did not like how Jose looked at second base after the double. If this is a nagging injury, I really hope we don't regret him playing these games and the AS game. Thing is, now we really gotta win 2 b4 the break, and we need him for that too. I'm in a quandary. Sure glad I'm not callin' these shots.

Ashie62 Jul 09 2010 09:08 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Jason Bay sucks balls, and yes I'm piling on.

Zvon Jul 09 2010 09:10 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Up for grabs^

Ashie62 Jul 09 2010 10:06 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

That about sums it up.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2010 11:18 PM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Dickey led off that inning with a single, ferchrissakes. It's like having your leadoff guy up in the top of the first inning to start the game only he gets to bat with a runner on first handicap. And then that leadoff guy singles. And then it's Reyes and the 3-4-5 after that. Nobody was out. How often do you get that opportunity? The pitcher led off with a single. Dickey. The pitcher. What's the run expectancy for when the inning begins with the 9 and 1 batters each singling? It's gotta be better than when the 1 and 2 guys lead with singles, no?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 10 2010 03:08 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Zvon"] Up for grabs^

Well, it would almost be rude not to, right?

Grassyass.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2010 09:13 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Mike Vaccaro, like me, focuses on the Thole bunt last night. "Jerry Manuel is a good baseball man. But there comes a time in almost every game the Mets play – because almost every game they play seems to be tied in the fifth inning or later – when he needs to make a key decision: a bullpen call, a pinch hitter, any of the things that separate managers from caretakers. And more often than is recommended by law, Manuel leaves you scratching your head." Jerry does say - as Keith & Ron speculated - that Thole had the option of swinging away if he sees the SS breaking for 3rd (and Escobar made no attempt to disguise it) but that's not easy for a young player to pull off. Me, I have him swing away.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2010 09:36 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Vaccaro is probably the best columnist in the city these days.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 10 2010 10:14 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

It's nice-- and all-too-rare-- when a sports columnist lets the facts inform his opinion and make his case.

Ceetar Jul 10 2010 10:20 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

[quote="Frayed Knot"]Mike Vaccaro, like me, focuses on the Thole bunt last night. "Jerry Manuel is a good baseball man. But there comes a time in almost every game the Mets play – because almost every game they play seems to be tied in the fifth inning or later – when he needs to make a key decision: a bullpen call, a pinch hitter, any of the things that separate managers from caretakers. And more often than is recommended by law, Manuel leaves you scratching your head." Jerry does say - as Keith & Ron speculated - that Thole had the option of swinging away if he sees the SS breaking for 3rd (and Escobar made no attempt to disguise it) but that's not easy for a young player to pull off. Me, I have him swing away.

Apparently Jerry said the same thing, that Thole should've swung and that was the only problem with the situation.

But as Keith did point out "That's a rookie up there. Should/Will a rookie blow off his manager's call if he thinks it's the right thing to do?"

Edgy DC Jul 10 2010 11:09 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

Really, one misread and you're back with Bingo taking six hour bus rides. You can't expect a guy to make judgmental adjustments in the middle of a windup under those circumstances.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 10 2010 11:25 AM Re: IGT--Braves @ Mets, 07/09/10

I didn't agree with Manuel callling for that bunt either, but the manager's explanation for the Thole bunt play makes perfect sense to me. But I assume that Thole read the playbook and digested it in full, options and all. If Thole was given the option to swing away, then Thole wouldn't have flouted Jerry's instructions by swinging away.